Iran says it will set Tel Aviv “on fire” if attacked

[eurekaa]

Iran says it will set Tel Aviv “on fire” if attacked

Khamenei aide threatens US navy and Jewish state

TEHRAN
Iran would “set on fire” Israel and the U.S. navy in the Gulf as its first response to any American attack over its nuclear program, an aide to supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned on Tuesday.

“The first U.S. shot on Iran would set the United States’ vital interests in the world on fire,” said Ali Shirazi, a mid-ranking cleric who is Khamenei’s representative to the naval forces of the elite Revolutionary Guards.

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I understand their threats to Israel if they been attacked , but these to attack U.S vital interests in the gulf means they going to attack the Arabian gulf countries itself , this is also a direct threat to Arabian Gulf countries and such threats will lead to lose their political support to Iran ..

All of Arabians leaders stated that they'll not support any attack against Iran in case it happened and they'll not accept to use their lands including the U.S bases there to attack Iran ..

what a conflict for our leaders with such Iranian statements ..

[NimDod]

what a conflict for our leaders with such Iranian statements ..

your leaders wont do anything to counter the Iranian threat, wait for Israel to do that job for them and condemn it right after - just like they did in 1981 with the Iraqi nuclear program.

where's the conflict?

[eurekaa]

your leaders wont do anything to counter the Iranian threat, wait for Israel to do that job for them and condemn it right after - just like they did in 1981 with the Iraqi nuclear program.

where's the conflict?

They did before with Iraq when they support the Iraq against Iran by funding them and all other stuffs .. its not because they can not take an action , but this war is not theirs ..

Also the Shiite in gulf wont support any action against Iran for religious reasons ..

as for the rest you mentioned , you can say what you want and Iranians also say there threats , and god knows the future , when it happened we'll know , not by words ..

The question is , are we ready for this risk !!

I'm not , specially that my family lives 1.5 KM or less away of the U.S 5th fleet base :)

[NimDod]

The question is , are we ready for this risk !!


which risk are you refering to?
Iran becoming nuclear and start threatening countries other than Israel,
or Israel / US / some other imaginary force attacking Iran's nuclear installations and starting a new conflict in the region?



All of Arabians leaders stated that they'll not support any attack against Iran in case it happened and they'll not accept to use their lands including the U.S bases there to attack Iran ..

well, the Arab leaders wont say they support any attacks on Iran, but would any of them like to see Iran as a nuclear regional power? I doubt that.
It seems to me like the Gulf countries like to have the US army protecting their lands by building bases on them, but dont want to pay the price for that protection (ie, use these bases there to attack other foes).

here we call it "dancing at two weddings"

[Arvin]

What could Iran do if pushed in conflict?


July 8 (*******) - Iran will hit Tel Aviv, U.S. shipping in the Gulf and American interests if it is attacked over its disputed nuclear activities, an aide to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was quoted as saying on Tuesday.

Speculation has mounted that Iran could be attacked over its disputed nuclear programme after a report said Israel had practiced such a strike. The United States has said it wants a diplomatic end to the atomic row but has not ruled out force.

The U.S. military could unleash superior military force but analysts say Washington may struggle to prevent Tehran from hitting back in Iraq and elsewhere.

Following are some tactics Iran could employ, including unconventional or "asymmetric" methods, that have either already been used by Iranian forces or blamed on Iran in the past:



HIT-AND-RUN RAIDS IN THE GULF

During the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s, the two OPEC states sought to knock out each others' oil exports. Iran's military mounted hit-and-run raids on oil tankers and other shipping in the Gulf. Experts say the Revolutionary Guards, the ideologically driven wing of Iran's military, were a driving force in developing such tactics, often involving small speedboats mounted with a missile and which stood a better chance of evading detection. The Guards have in the past warned their "martyrdom-seeking" volunteers could cause havoc in the Gulf's strategic Strait of Hormuz waterway.



STRIKING U.S. INTERESTS

Khamenei has said Iran would strike U.S. interests in the region if pushed. Iran's military has said it has missiles that can sink "big warships" and others with a range to hit targets across the Gulf, which could include U.S. bases in Qatar and Bahrain, although military experts say U.S. anti-missile defences could stop such rockets. Iran's longest range missile, the Shahab 3, can reach Israel.



VIOLENCE IN IRAQ

Washington accuses Iran of backing militants in Iraq, which Tehran denies. Western diplomats say Iran could allow weapons to flow across the border to Iraq and add to problems for U.S. troops. U.S. officials say Iran has used elements in the Mehdi Army, led by firebrand cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, in the past to weaken the Iraqi government and boost its influence. Iran has historical ties with Shi'ite Muslim groups in Iraq's government because some of their leaders were exiled in Iran. Analysts say it is unclear how much sway Iran has over policy-making.



DESTABILISING AFGHANISTAN

Iran says it wants a stable neighbour to its east in Afghanistan, but Western officials say weapons have crossed the border from Iran and reached the Taliban, although they say this may be partly because the area is already full of weapons held by well-equipped drugs smuggling gangs. Shi'ite Iran is vehemently opposed to the strict Sunni views of the Taliban and almost went to war with Afghanistan when the Taliban were in power. But analysts suggest Iran might assist its sworn enemy if that meant hurting the United States during any conflict.



USING REGIONAL ALLIES

Mohammad Ali Jafari, the Revolutionary Guards' commander-in-chief, said in a newspaper interview in June that Iran's regional Islamic friends, which include Lebanon's Shi'ite militia Hezbollah, could strike Israel if Iran came under attack. He did not refer to Hezbollah directly but said those in Lebanon's Shi'ite heartland of south Lebanon would not sit idle. The United States blamed Hezbollah for the 1983 bombing of its marines barracks in Beirut that killed 241 soldiers. Jafari also suggested members of Hamas, the Palestinian group which receives Iranian funds, could respond, although he did not specifically name the group.



HOSTAGE-TAKING

Iran was blamed by the West for helping mastermind some of the kidnappings of U.S. and other foreigners during the 1975-1990 civil war in Lebanon. The Iran-Contra Affair involved selling arms to Iran while it was fighting Iraq, in return for Tehran's assistance in releasing hostages held by Lebanese groups. In an added twist, profits from the arms sales were used to fund anti-Communist rebels, the Contras, in Nicaragua. The dealings were exposed in 1986. (Writing by Edmund Blair; Editing by Dominic Evans)

http://www.*******.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSBLA829493

[Ariha]

What could Iran do if pushed in conflict?

All this at the same time?

Someone should begin buying plots in Tehran´s city center by hundreds of thousands of sq. meters for a (very) long time investment.

[Briggs]

What are they going to do? Send nukes? Thought they didn't have any? Or they planning to send over Ballistic Missiles filled with Molotov cocktails?

wootp-)

[Mastermind]

Iran...the little mouse that squeeks her evil threats ...shaking in her terror ...so frightened of the little vicious mongoose Israel. Big, slogging, clumbsy elephant USA...so afraid of the little trembling mouse Iran....USA elephant frightened into silence.

[IDF_TANKER]

Iran says it will set Tel Aviv “on fire” if attacked

So did Hezbollah. We say, they say...

[Vorian]

All of Arabians leaders stated that they'll not support any attack against Iran in case it happened and they'll not accept to use their lands including the U.S bases there to attack Iran ..

How did the brilliant strategists of US manage to make Arabs love the Persians, I will never know.

[Laworkerbee]

How did the brilliant strategists of US manage to make Arabs love the Persians, I will never know.

You actually believe that garbage? rofl

[Arvin]

Iran...the little mouse that squeeks her evil threats ...shaking in her terror ...so frightened of the little vicious mongoose Israel. Big, slogging, clumbsy elephant USA...so afraid of the little trembling mouse Iran....USA elephant frightened into silence.

Sounds like a childrends novel.Do continue!

[Vorian]

You actually believe that garbage? rofl


The fact remains that Iran has gotten closer to the Arab world than it used to.

[Arvin]

How did the brilliant strategists of US manage to make Arabs love the Persians, I will never know.

They didin't.Iran simply said any country that hosts any facilities or is involved on any attack on Iran will be targeted.Including oil facilities and that would hurt the Gulf Arabs tourism as well.

[Arvin]

The fact remains that Iran has gotten closer to the Arab world than it used to.

We are playing the Arabs off the Israeli's.Using them as our proxies.Lovely in it :)

[Laworkerbee]

The fact remains that Iran has gotten closer to the Arab world than it used to.

What fact(s)?

An old Arab proverb; The three things God should not have created; Flies, Jews, and Persians.

[Vorian]

What fact(s)?

An old Arab proverb; The three things God should not have created; Flies, Jews, and Persians.



Egypt
Two years later, in late 2003, Iranian President Mohammad Khatami met with the Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Geneva. Khatami openly invited Mubarak to Iran, but Mubarak refused to make such a trip or normalize relations until all "public tributes" to Islambouli were "erased". In early 2004, Iran agreed to change the offending street name to Muhammad al-Durrah, a 12-year-old boy who was famously killed by the Israeli Defense Force in the opening days of the Second Intifada [16].

Jordan
On September 2 and 3, 2003, King Abdullah II visited Tehran, making him the first Jordanian king to visit "Tehran since the launching of the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979".

Kuwait
In February 2006, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vistied Kuwait opening a new chapter in relations between the two countries. The well reported visit was the first to Kuwait by a high-ranking Iranian official in 27 years [20].

Saudi Arabia
In 2008, the Saudi King Abdullah invited former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani to visit Saudi Arabia for the purpose of attending an Islamic conference. Rafsanji responded by saying that the opportunity was a way "Iran and Saudi Arabia can resolve differences in the Muslim world."[25]



Notice the dates.

[Laworkerbee]

Noted and I thank you for providing something useful, however I don't see official state visits being on par with the Arabs "loving" the Persians, though I do believe the Arab street has some respect for the Persians because they stand up to the West from a position of strength, something the Arabs want for themselves badly.

[Vorian]

Perhaps my words were too strong but you get my point. US policies strengthen Iran immensely. They already removed its worst enemy. If they allow them to draw close to the Arabs, I dread to think of the future of Middle East.

[Martel]

"Iran says", "Iran warns", every day a new one ...

[Laworkerbee]

Perhaps my words were too strong but you get my point. US policies strengthen Iran immensely. They already removed its worst enemy. If they allow them to draw close to the Arabs, I dread to think of the future of Middle East.

I do get your point, good chat.

[Erik Sleivöks]

What else should the Iranian president say?
We know that we are in trouble and that we will get our asses kicked???

No as usual he sticks to the standard Iranian BS propaganda and promises death to everybody.

That his armed forces are in a sorry state, that his economy is crashing (despite billions of petro dollars), and that anybody in his country with an IQ over 60 is sick and tired of his BS doesn’t matter.

What matters, is that he is in direct contact with the 12th imam and that he is guiding the Iranian nation strait in to destiny.

[wildcat]

"Iran says", "Iran warns", every day a new one ...
the add a new ones "Iran didn't say", "Iran didn't mean"

[seathru]

I do not think they can set Tel Aviv on fire. They surely will set Iraq on fir.

[Jagdtiger]

if attacked iran will use it´s oil to put pressure on the rest of the world but thanks to recent developments i doubt that they could inflict serious damage on israel itself
I wonder how long iran will make such statements which are nothing more than propaganda

[eurekaa]

What fact(s)?

An old Arab proverb; The three things God should not have created; Flies, Jews, and Persians.

I'm Arabian , and I never hear about this proverb , but I searched for that in Arabic ( via google ) and I found that it was said by Saddam Husain's uncle and his Father-in-law as well ( Khair-allah Telfah ) ,


Perhaps my words were too strong but you get my point. US policies strengthen Iran immensely. They already removed its worst enemy. If they allow them to draw close to the Arabs, I dread to think of the future of Middle East.

We believe that U.S gives Iraq as a gift to Iran , all those politician who run the country their loyalty goes to Iran , and most of them were expatriated out of Iraq in Saddam's time for such political reasons ..

[eurekaa]

if attacked iran will use it´s oil to put pressure on the rest of the world but thanks to recent developments i doubt that they could inflict serious damage on israel itself
I wonder how long iran will make such statements which are nothing more than propaganda

For the same reasons Israel/U.S revealed about the 100 Israeli F-16 fighter maneuvering with Greece as training to attack the Iranian reactors as they claim , if they were serious they would never expose their intentions too early to the world and their enemy , its just another type of the cold-war ..

[Snoshi]

For the same reasons Israel/U.S revealed about the 100 Israeli F-16 fighter maneuvering with Greece as training to attack the Iranian reactors as they claim , if they were serious they would never expose their intentions too early to the world and their enemy , its just another type of the cold-war ..

The story was published in NYT weeks after it first appeared here on MP.net and other forums.. So it was nothing secreat

[sinophile]

your leaders wont do anything to counter the Iranian threat, wait for Israel to do that job for them and condemn it right after - just like they did in 1981 with the Iraqi nuclear program.

where's the conflict?

Mullen's Message for Israel (http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/1946/mullens-message-for-israel)

posted Tuesday July 8, 2008 under israel (http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/category/israel/), iran (http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/category/iran/) by jeffrey (http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/author/jeffrey/)
Avner Cohen asks an interesting question about a speech in Tel Aviv (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1000048.html) by Tony Cordesman.
Cordesman told audiences that Admiral Michael Mullen, Chairman ot the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was delivering a message when he said that Israel did not have a green light to attack Iran:

Cordesman is visiting Israel this week, and gave a lecture yesterday at Tel Aviv University and at Hebrew University on Sunday. He talked about Mullen’s comments last week in Washington when the Admiral said such an Israeli attack would be dangerous and could destabilize the Middle East. Mullen spoke after returning from a visit to Israel, during which he met with Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi and other senior IDF officers.
Cordesman said Mullen came to Israel to deliver a message – that Israel did not have a green light to attack Iran and that it would not receive U.S. support for such a move.
According to Cordesman, Mullen was expressing the official opinion of the U.S. administration, including that of President George W. Bush and the National Security Council.
Avner asked me to put the question to my readers:

I have the gut feeling that Tony is right about Mullen’s mission, and surely there is much more going on than meets the eye.
This means that notwithstanding the Syrian thing, Israel is not allowed to act in Iran. At least not now. But why Mullen was asked to convey the message to the IDF? Is this something that was left opaque in the “frank” and “extensive” talk between Olmert and Bush? Is this an actual warning?
Your thoughts. Any of your blog’s readers maybe has a comment.
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[eurekaa]

The story was published in NYT weeks after it first appeared here on MP.net and other forums.. So it was nothing secreat
And this what I mean on media not in forum , or I'm missing something here :)

[shocker1]

Ahmadinejad: Iran to cut off aggressors hands

Tehran (http://www1.irna.ir/en/news/line-24/key-79/), July 8, IRNA
http://www1.irna.ir/filesystem/08/07/08/688419-36-07_n.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:popupImages%28%27http://www1.irna.ir/index2.php?option=com_news&task=popup&code=0807086884193607&pindex=&pfrom=0&no_html=1&lang=en%27%29;) Iran (http://www1.irna.ir/en/news/line-24/key-5808/)-President (http://www1.irna.ir/en/news/line-24/key-5925/)-Aggressor (http://www1.irna.ir/en/news/line-24/key-119756/)
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Tuesday that the Iranian nation will cut off hands of every aggressor before they can touch trigger.

Ahmadinejad made the remark in a news conference on the sidelines of the D8 Summit in Kuala Lumpur where he underlined that the Iranian nation is united and ready to defend its rights, and will definitely cut off aggressors' hands.
:)
http://www1.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0807086884193607.htm

[little icebear]

http://theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-content/comical_ali.jpg

This aint no laughing matter!

[LEB101]

How did the brilliant strategists of US manage to make Arabs love the Persians, I will never know.
arabs want iran hit more than the jews they just say it becuase they dont want to look like they are betraying fellow muslims. iran cant do much and wont do much they will hit israel haha saddam did the same and he didnt gain anything out of it . hezbollah is already hated and i doubt they will make any big moves

[Vorian]

arabs want iran hit more than the jews they just say it becuase they dont want to look like they are betraying fellow muslims. iran cant do much and wont do much they will hit israel haha saddam did the same and he didnt gain anything out of it . hezbollah is already hated and i doubt they will make any big moves

See the post with Arab-Iran bilateral relationships since 2003 I posted a page ago.

Sorry but as a Lebanese you aren't very objective. We all know how you feel about Iran (and with good cause as well)