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Koyunbaba
07-11-2008, 06:43 PM
New kid in town and wish to share a few pics taken by a british friend who was a Royal Marine in those times.

For background info:

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Borneo/index.html

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Ars/Skeeter2dotjpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Ars/Whirlwinddotjpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Ars/WhirlwindBorneodotjpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Ars/WhirlwindFormationBorneodotjpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Ars/alouetteBorneodotjpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Ars/saroSkeerdotjpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u36/Wyrneh/Ars/whirlwindBorneo3dotjpg

Eokboy
07-11-2008, 07:37 PM
Thanks for posting :)

Background:


On January 20, 1963, Indonesian Foreign Minister Subandrio announced that Indonesia would pursue a policy of Konfrontasi with Malaysia. On April 12, Indonesian volunteers—allegedly Indonesian Army personnel—began to infiltrate Sarawak and Sabah, to engage in raids and sabotage, and spread propaganda. On July 27, Sukarno declared that he was going to "crush Malaysia" (Indonesian: Ganyang Malaysia). On August 16, troops of the Brigade of Gurkhas clashed with fifty Indonesian guerillas.

While the Philippines did not engage in warfare, they did break off diplomatic relations with Malaysia.

The Federation of Malaysia was formally established on September 16, 1963. Brunei decided against joining, and Singapore was expelled by the Federation in 1965 to become an independent republic.

Tensions rose on both sides of the Straits of Malacca. Two days later, rioters burned the British embassy in Jakarta. Several hundred rioters ransacked the Singapore embassy in Jakarta and the homes of Singaporean diplomats. In Malaysia, Indonesian agents were captured and crowds attacked the Indonesian embassy in Kuala Lumpur.

Along the remote jungle border in Borneo, there was an ongoing border war; Indonesian troops and irregulars tried to occupy Sarawak and Sabah, with little success. On 28 September 1963, a small, successful (though strategically irrelevant) raid was conducted by the Indonesians on the village of Long Jawe, almost wiping out the entire Gurkha Rifles garrison[citation needed]. In early 1964, Indonesian attacks managed to render the strategic Tebedu-Serian-Kuching road unsafe for months, and additional small scale air raids were launched in the Kelabit Highlands on civilian settlements. One Indonesian raiding party en route to the small town of Song was captured by locals and handed over to the Malaysian authorities in April 1964.

In 1964, Indonesian troops began to raid areas in Peninsular Malaysia. In August, 16 armed Indonesian agents were captured in Johore. Activity by regular Indonesian Army troops over the border also increased. On March 14, 1964 Trooper James Condon became the first member of the SAS to be killed in Borneo.[4]Over the period covering the battle in Kalimantan, the Indonesian Kopassus suffered over 2,000 casualties and over 200 casualties of Australian and British SAS regiment.

The British Royal Navy deployed a number of warships, including aircraft carriers, to the area to defend Malaysia and the Royal Air Force also deployed many squadrons of aircraft. The British "commando carriers" HMS Albion and Bulwark operated their squadrons of helicopters to transport Royal Marines and supplies through the jungles, the ships themselves being floating bases. [5]

Commonwealth ground forces— 18 battalions, including elements of the Brigade of Gurkhas — and three Malaysian battalions, were also committed to the conflict. The Commonwealth troops were thinly deployed and had to rely on border posts and reconnaissance by light infantry and/or the two SBS commando units of the Royal Marines. Their main mission was to prevent further Indonesian incursions into Malaysia.

On August 17, Indonesian paratroopers landed on the southwest coast of Johore and attempted to establish guerilla groups. On September 2, more paratroopers landed in Labis, Johore. On October 29, 52 soldiers landed in Pontian on the Johore-Malacca border and were captured by New Zealand Army and Royal Malay Regiment personnel. Balance of paratroopers were captured by Royal Federations Malay States Police Field Force personnel in Batu 20 Muar, Johore.

When the United Nations (UN) accepted Malaysia as a nonpermanent member at the Security Council, Sukarno withdrew Indonesia from the UN and attempted to form the Conference of New Emerging Forces (Conefo) as an alternative.

In January 1965, after many Malaysian requests, Australia agreed to send troops to Borneo. The Australian Army contingent included the 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment and the Australian Special Air Service (SAS) Regiment. There were 14,000 British and Commonwealth forces in Borneo by this time. According to official policy, Commonwealth troops could not follow attackers over the Indonesian border. However, units like the British SAS and the Australian SAS did so in secret (see Operation Claret). (The Australian government officially admitted these incursions in 1996.) In April 1964, the British government gave permission for troops to cross the border into Kalimantan up to 3,000 yards. In January 1965, this authorisation was extended to attacks up to 10,000 yards. There is also evidence that the British and Malaysians secretly gave aid to rebel groups in Indonesia, in the outer islands of Sumatra and Sulawesi, as way to weaken Sukarno's Confrontation campaign.

On March 10, 1965, Indonesian saboteurs carried out the MacDonald House bombing in Singapore, killing three people and injuring 33.

In mid-1965, the Indonesian government began to openly use Indonesian army forces. On June 28, they crossed the border into eastern Sebatik Island near Tawau, Sabah, and clashed with defenders.

Another factor in the defeat of Confrontation was use of intelligence. Britain had broken the Indonesian military and diplomatic ciphers and was able to intercept and decrypt communications from a Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) listening station in Singapore. This intelligence was used to plan individual Claret cross-border operations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia-Malaysia_confrontation

goat89
07-12-2008, 02:44 AM
Ah... the Konfrantasi... Singapore at that time didnt have an army. So we had to gather Volunteers (Singapore Volunteer Corps I believe) and Straits Regiments to help us defend. Still Indonesian Commandos, who were veterans against the Japanese in WWII, did infiltrate and bomb us.

makavelli
07-12-2008, 04:24 AM
its really2 hard to find the photos for this event..
the gossip behind it was Russian aid of 10 subs at that time..(Soekarno was pro Communist, while Soeharto was pro-western)

Many believe that the defeat wasnt from the front line but in-house politics instead. (see: SUPERSEMAR, )

From WIkipedia


On the night of 30 September 1965, six of Indonesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia)'s most senior generals were killed by a movement calling themselves the "30 September Movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_September_Movement) (G30S)." With much of its senior leadership killed or missing, Major General Suharto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suharto), commander of the Army's strategic reserves took control of the army the following morning.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-10) Suharto issued an ultimatum to the Halim Air Force Base, where the G30S had based themselves and where Sukarno (the reasons for his presence are unclear and were subject of claim and counter-claim), General Omar Dhani (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=General_Omar_Dhani&action=edit&redlink=1) and Aidit had gathered. By the following day, it was clear that the incompetently organised and poorly coordinated coup had failed.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-11) By 2 October, Suharto's faction was firmly in control of the army. Sukarno's obedience to Suharto's 1 October ultimatum to leave Halim is seen as changing all power relationships.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-12) Sukarno's fragile balance of power between the military, political Islam, communists, and nationalists that underlay his "Guided Democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guided_Democracy_%281957%E2%80%931965%29)" was now collapsing.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-13)
In early October, a military propaganda campaign began to sweep the country, successfully convincing both Indonesian and international audiences that it was a Communist coup, and that the murders were cowardly atrocities against Indonesian heroes.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-14) The PKI's denials of involvement had little effect.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-15) The army led campaign to purge Indonesian society, government and armed forces of the communist party and other leftist organisations. Leading PKI members were immediately arrested, some summarily executed.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-16) The purge quickly spread from Jakarta to the rest of the country, and the worst massacres were in Java and Bali.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-17) (see: Indonesian killings of 1965–66 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366)) The situation varied across the country; in some areas the army organised civilian groups and local militias, in other areas communal vigilante action preceded the army.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-18) The most widely accepted estimates are that at least half a million were killed.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-19) Many others were also imprisoned and for the next ten years people were still being imprisoned as suspects. It is thought that as many as 1.5m were imprisoned at one stage or another.[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soekarno#cite_note-20) As a result of the purge, one of Sukarno's three pillars of support, the Indonesian Communist Party, had been effectively eliminated by the other two, the military and political Islam.
On March 11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_11), 1966 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966), Suharto and his supporters in the military forced Sukarno to issue a Presidential Order called Supersemar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersemar) (Surat Perintah Sebelas Maret -- The March 11 Order), in which Sukarno gave orders to Suharto only to restore peace and order, not to transfer of power to him. After obtaining the Presidential Order, Suharto had the PKI declared illegal and the party was abolished. He also arrested many high ranking officials that were loyal to Sukarno on the charge of being PKI members and/or sympathizers, further reducing Sukarno's political power and influence. In 1991 a government minister admitted that the national archives only possessed a copy of this letter, and in 1992 another government minister called for whoever is in possession of the original document to submit it to the national archives. However, there is testimony from several eyewitnesses who claim that such a document did exist and that the copy in the archives is a faithful reproduction of the original.
Sukarno was *****ped of his presidential title by Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Consultative_Assembly) (Provisional Peoples Representative Assembly) on March 12, 1967, led by his former ally, Nasution, and remained under house arrest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_arrest) until his death at age 69 in Jakarta in 1970. He was buried in Blitar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitar), East Java (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Java), Indonesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia). In recent decades, his grave has been a significant venue in the network of places that Javanese visit on ziarah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziarah) and for some is of equal significance to those of the Wali Songo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wali_Songo).
While the semi-official version of the events of 1965-1966 claims that the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI) ordered the murders of the six generals, others blame Sukarno, and still others believe Suharto orchestrated the assassinations to remove potential rivals for the presidency

karbol
07-12-2008, 09:57 AM
Thanks for posting :)

Background:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia-Malaysia_confrontation

KOPASSUS (at that time RPKAD) only have 2 Company... so how come they loose 2000 troops??

karbol
07-12-2008, 10:06 AM
Ah... the Konfrantasi... Singapore at that time didnt have an army. So we had to gather Volunteers (Singapore Volunteer Corps I believe) and Straits Regiments to help us defend. Still Indonesian Commandos, who were veterans against the Japanese in WWII, did infiltrate and bomb us.

yes... sorry.. but now, we are friend:hug::):)...

ggk
07-12-2008, 10:35 AM
KOPASSUS (at that time RPKAD) only have 2 Company... so how come they loose 2000 troops??

old story, old wound, i hope we are not going into any heated debate about this. :|

why 2000? probably because the Aussies and Brits call all Indonesian troops that infiltrate the north kalimantan as RPKAD. In reality its a mix of volunteer, paratrooper, KKO and RPKAD....personally i think the number were less than 2000....

cheers!

karbol
07-13-2008, 12:56 AM
old story, old wound, i hope we are not going into any heated debate about this. :|

why 2000? probably because the Aussies and Brits call all Indonesian troops that infiltrate the north kalimantan as RPKAD. In reality its a mix of volunteer, paratrooper, KKO and RPKAD....personally i think the number were less than 2000....

cheers!

i agree GGK!!... we dont need any debate about this. after all, we are all best friend right now....:):)...:hug:

equilibrium37
07-13-2008, 01:10 AM
They need to start including this event in history books. I was reading through my sisters Senior High history book and beleive me it was full of shat. Just dates and dates, no sufficient data or what caused the events. Just crap.

makavelli
07-13-2008, 02:20 AM
KOPASSUS (at that time RPKAD) only have 2 Company... so how come they loose 2000 troops??

Thats estimation only. At that time both sides do not have accurate data nor paperworks, so they assume it was 2000.

It might include volunteer, tribes, and spies.


They need to start including this event in history books. I was reading through my sisters Senior High history book and beleive me it was full of shat. Just dates and dates, no sufficient data or what caused the events. Just crap.

Agreed, this is one of those unpopular war..

fcaesarn
07-15-2008, 04:09 AM
Some pics from Indonesian Side:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/50678139dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/Tu-16_AURIdotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/Kisah4dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/Kisah2dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/kn2dotjpg

ggk
07-15-2008, 04:13 AM
nice picture dude!

fcaesarn
07-16-2008, 07:27 AM
Another pics

Indonesian troops prepare for confrontation

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/50322809dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3374429dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3374409dotjpg

British Marines on Borneo...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3203022dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3139571dotjpg

ggk
07-16-2008, 09:34 AM
this is rare!

karbol
07-17-2008, 01:14 AM
Confirmed.. They are not Indonesian Troops.. but volunteers...

fcaesarn... those are very-very rare pics... thx for posting this pics....

hawkeye88
08-21-2008, 10:56 AM
Another pics

Indonesian troops prepare for confrontation

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/50322809dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3374429dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3374409dotjpg

British Marines on Borneo...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3203022dotjpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn206/fcaesarn/3139571dotjpg

Can anyone tell me who is the white-skin persons (last picture)?? Or is it in Malaysia??

DavidDCM
08-21-2008, 11:03 AM
Can you read?


British Marines on Borneo...

hawkeye88
08-21-2008, 11:12 AM
Can you read?

Oops... sorry... So, we can conclude british army teach indonesian soldiers???

Eoin666
08-21-2008, 07:10 PM
Saw a program here in UK recently about an SAS cross border raid where they tracked down an Indonesian base and ambushed boats carrying troops.

Interesting one of the troopers who was fluent in Malay went back there recently where he met up with the Dyak trackers who recounted how after shooting some Indonesians they went out to collect the heads and some British officer objected, then the Dyak turned to the camera and said that quite often British units who operated with the Dyaks were also headhunters.......interesting stuff.

drakegoodman
08-21-2008, 09:40 PM
Interesting read / pics. Thanks for the contrib. Went down well with my morning cuppa.

D.G.

oncebitten
08-21-2008, 10:08 PM
Oops... sorry... So, we can conclude british army teach indonesian soldiers???
hawkeye, the last 2 photos are on the Malaysian side. i.e. the British Marines trained the Malaysian troops.

HangPC2
08-22-2008, 12:17 AM
http://bp1.blogger.com/_1ACk9BbS_Lg/RuFrCK8qd8I/AAAAAAAAArw/ywbnWSyGVSM/s400/Sarawak+Communist+patrol+1963+xdotjpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_1ACk9BbS_Lg/RuFq8K8qd7I/AAAAAAAAAro/S0Ed1dJnF8U/s400/Sarawak+Communist+patrol+1965+xdotjpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_1ACk9BbS_Lg/RuFq2a8qd6I/AAAAAAAAArg/cHQLbu2Gb6Q/s400/Sarawak+Communist+patrol+1965b+xdotjpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_1ACk9BbS_Lg/RuFqna8qd5I/AAAAAAAAArY/MAeZ56Jadlg/s400/Sarawak+Communist+patrol+1965a+xdotjpg

Sources : http://sarikei-time-capsule.blogspot.com/2007/09/history-sarikei-part-6-1962-1973.html

InaShotgun
08-22-2008, 08:14 AM
On British side they have Mike "mad'Calvert.

Wally1967
08-22-2008, 08:50 AM
I heard about that Australian Troops or Aussie SAS cant remember which were in Indonesian territory when cease fire was in force and the aussies quickly leave Indonesian territory it took them a long while without getting caught took them 3 days through the jungle cant remember?.

retrobob
08-22-2008, 11:30 AM
On British side they have Mike "mad'Calvert.
Did they now? Brig. Michael Calvert as CO of the Malayan Scouts served in Malaya 1950-51 during the 'Emergency'(1948-60) and not the
'Confrontation'(1962-66).By the time the Confrontation started Calvert had been out the Army nearly 10yrs.

InaShotgun
08-22-2008, 09:24 PM
[I heard In Kalimantan Tengah(central Borneo).now called Tjilik Riwut Airport.
maybe i'm wrong.sorry

karbol
08-23-2008, 04:37 AM
[I heard In Kalimantan Tengah(central Borneo).now called Tjilik Riwut Airport.
maybe i'm wrong.sorry

yes you right about the airport name. but there are no relation between Tjilik Riwut and the confrontation...

aneep
08-26-2008, 05:09 AM
KOPASSUS (at that time RPKAD) only have 2 Company... so how come they loose 2000 troops??
really? i thought by that time Moerdani was already leading at least a battalion strength of RPKAD troopers

-aneep-

karbol
08-26-2008, 05:38 AM
really? i thought by that time Moerdani was already leading at least a battalion strength of RPKAD troopers

-aneep-

oooppss sorry... u right:roll:. there was two battalion of RPKAD at that time (batt A and Batt B)... but still the number are less then 2000 (one bn of RPKAD is about 500 troops)...

fcaesarn
08-26-2008, 05:57 AM
oooppss sorry... u right:roll:. there was two battalion of RPKAD at that time (batt A and Batt B)... but still the number are less then 2000 (one bn of RPKAD is about 500 troops)...

You also have to consider the number of volunteers who joinned RPKAD missions in Borneo..