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karl-heinz
07-15-2008, 09:57 AM
Hi! :)

I'm making a project about the employment of the Air Defense systems during the 1973 Yom Kippur War and I'm researching at the moment the organization and Force structure of the Egyptian Air Defense Command, from SAM Divisions and Brigades to SAM Battalions and Batterys.

Does anyone have any info or specific sources about this matter? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks:|

Hellfish
07-15-2008, 06:08 PM
On a similar note, does anyone know the specific differences between an SA-6/2K12 Kub system and the export 2K12E Kvadrat system?

I assume the export version is less capable than the Soviet system, but I don't know what specifically is different about it.

MG 3
07-19-2008, 02:37 AM
Egyptian Air Defense Command in the Yom Kippur War.......

......was asleep.

Hellfish
07-19-2008, 03:18 AM
......was asleep.

You're talking about '67. In '73 they were pretty active.

kingreverent
07-21-2008, 02:02 PM
Their defence was based on the SAM's umbrella. Once punshed, they lost, lost, and never resurected, till today!
Now other Arabs are trying a variant of the SAM in the form of the Quassam's and Kathiousha umbrella rockets. They will be punshed very soon and they will also loose forever.

Holycrusader
07-22-2008, 09:22 AM
Their defence was based on the SAM's umbrella. Once punshed, they lost, lost, and never resurected, till today!
Now other Arabs are trying a variant of the SAM in the form of the Quassam's and Kathiousha umbrella rockets. They will be punshed very soon and they will also loose forever.

WTF is "Kathiousha umbrella rockets."?

Fiber
07-22-2008, 09:24 AM
never mind.

kingreverent
07-22-2008, 11:31 AM
WTF is "Kathiousha umbrella rockets."?

Yes, by that I meant that Quassam/Kathiousha rockets are used in terrorising Israeli citizens. Arabs are using those rockets hoping that israel will not retaliate, fearing a massive rocket attack on Israeli soil.
That will end soon with introduction of the Iron Dome.
Egyptians have used the Sam missiles to neutralize the IAF in the first days of the Yom Kippur war. By that way they could advance unhindered in Sinai. Once the IAF found a solution against the SAM's, the game was over.
The same will happen very soon against the terrorists rockets.

Mastermind
07-22-2008, 02:12 PM
The same will happen very soon against the terrorists rockets.
I doubt that. AS soon as Israel fields an unbrella system, the terrorists will find another form of terror to launch. Billions spent to deffend against rockets that can be made in a high school shop class. Really...that's hardly a solution.

The answer lies in another tactic. One the Palis will hate ....to deal with terrorists, you have to bring them more terror than they can dispense on you. And, Israel is simply not quite there yet.

kingreverent
07-22-2008, 05:32 PM
AS soon as Israel fields an unbrella system, the terrorists will find another form of terror to launch. Billions spent to deffend against rockets that can be made in a high school shop class. Really...that's hardly a solution.

On the contrary, once that there will be an anti-missile system in place, which defends the lives of citizens, how costly it might be, the arabs will loose appetite to lounch any kind of missiles, and they will also now that there is no deterrence any more in lounching a barrage of missiles in reprisal of an israeli incursion. They will think twice before lounching anything...

Holycrusader
07-23-2008, 02:29 AM
I doubt that. AS soon as Israel fields an unbrella system, the terrorists will find another form of terror to launch. Billions spent to deffend against rockets that can be made in a high school shop class. Really...that's hardly a solution.

The answer lies in another tactic. One the Palis will hate ....to deal with terrorists, you have to bring them more terror than they can dispense on you. And, Israel is simply not quite there yet.

True, true...
But if you look at conflicts like in N. Ireland you will see that the best way to deal with terrorist is to isolate them from popular support. And its much cheaper solution than total war. Israel failed to win hearts of local population, but they still can win the brains...

Why USA in Iraq start to win with al Qaida? Because they pay political price for sunni political support.

Kaplanr
07-23-2008, 05:27 PM
A. **** you. No one mentioned the holocaust until you did. And yes the indiscriminate use of Katyushas and Qassems (while having no bearing on Gyppo air-defense) is terror. Now go and crawl back under your rock. Maybe your 2nd post will be more thoughtful.

Karl-Heinz, this is proving to be pretty elusive, at least as far as finding an authoritative resource or two. Try using the term Egyptian Air Defense Command in both Google Books and Google Scholar. There are many sources that talk about or at least mention the Egyptian ADC in 1973, but I think you're going to have to piece them and the bibliographies together.

There are a set of papers from the Air University at Maxwell AFB http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/yomkw/ykip99.htm inclusing papers written by Egyptian AF personnel that barely mention the ADC.