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StarvingStudent47
02-01-2003, 10:10 AM
Turn on your TV. Space Shuttle Columbia broke up at 200,000 feet, over Texas, during atmospheric re-entry. Seven astronauts were aboard--six Americans and one Israeli.

Space shuttle command seems pretty sure that the shuttle has broken up, but says it is still possible to survive--the cockpit is designed to stay together even in an incident like this, and the astronauts have parachutes. I hope and pray they are alive, but I don't know how likely that is.

Vance
02-01-2003, 10:36 AM
Yea I live near Houston, Texas, and I have family in Dallas. They said they heard a big rumble but couldnt see the shuttle itself.

FallenAngel
02-01-2003, 02:11 PM
this is a sad day for Americans and Israelis especially...but for everyone in the world.

Let us have a moment of silence in respect of them and their loved ones.

Minjin
02-01-2003, 03:28 PM
It is sad...That is some engineering to survive a Mach 6+ crash. (that is how fast they apparently were going when it actually broke up, but apparently before this, it was more akin to 12500 mph, or Mach 18 according to an early news report. Please correct me if I am completely wrong here, I am just repeating what I heard)

Salutes to these explorers and pioneers, and condolences to their loved ones.

StarvingStudent47
02-01-2003, 06:23 PM
The shuttle broke up at 12,500 mph at an altitude of 200,000 feet. Their deaths were probably close to instantaneous. I'm sure they didn't feel much pain. This is cold comfort to the loved ones, I know, but it is something.

My heart goes out to the families left behind. I know that one of the women was the mother of a pre-teen. The others also left behind spouses and perhaps children.

Godspeed to all of them.

Sirpad
02-02-2003, 10:43 AM
On our side of the ocean, it's a sad day too. We are a rather small country, and every death - especially like this one - does count. Yesterday turned out to be a bad day for me and all my friends - not every day you lose someone that was - even for a very short time - a natioanl hero.

And you know what - IT SUCKS! BIG TIME!

Not enough that we have war, recesion, rising unemployment, sinking economy, and generaly hard time with this god d*** fu***** situation - EVEN OUR VERY OWN FIRST ASTRONAUT JUST BLEW UP!
Why can't we get rid of death and be happy at least for one day?!

Chris
02-02-2003, 12:47 PM
seems like no one survived, i saw on tv that they found body parts. Really sad, had been along time now since the challenger explosion

Vance
02-02-2003, 01:32 PM
Yea, well when your going 12,500 miles per hour and at 200,000 feet, you dont have a good survival rate.

seventy6er
02-03-2003, 03:37 PM
hi,

no offense here. but can someone explain me why the columbia-accident is worse than for example the train-crash in australia (2 days earlier, 9 people killed)? people die in accidents every day all over the world.

i'm sorry, for the death of the astronauts, too, but isn't a suicide-bomber-attack in israel much worse?

just my 2 cents...

Vance
02-03-2003, 04:05 PM
Name one suicide bomber or 7 people killed in a train crash that risked their lives for the benefit of all of mankind. Thats what astronauts do for a living. They try to make the world a better place.

kathawk
02-03-2003, 06:11 PM
God bless the families of those astronauts. They were there just waiting for them to get home and then this. I hope everyone who has a family realizes how lucky they are. So sad...

Eric
02-04-2003, 02:45 AM
seventy6er, these astronauts do something for all mankind as vance has stated. They know 100% how risky their job is, but do it anyway. What makes me sick is that the Iraqis would cheer over this. Bastards.

Trigger
02-04-2003, 11:21 AM
...Iraqis cheering the death of 7 extraordinary people?

What do you expect from a sub-human species ruled by a mass murderer?


laugh now, cry later.

Apogee
02-04-2003, 01:42 PM
I think its really wrong to call them a sub-human species. I mean they def. didn't choose their leader. Even as a member of the military, I recognize that most of the citizens of Iraq are non-combatants and have nothing to do with the political or military leadership

Trigger
02-04-2003, 03:25 PM
What a crock!
I guess you never heard about the treatment of the pilots who were shot down during desert storm. How civilized.
May I also recommend 'Bravo Two Zero' be added to your reading list.
Those innocent bystanders wouldn't hesitate to beat you to death if given the opportunity. Don't kid yourself.

cheukkin
04-17-2004, 08:02 AM
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springwheat
04-17-2004, 08:09 AM
Well done cheukkin, you get an A for effort..

Why you chose this old thread I don't know.

cut
04-17-2004, 08:35 AM
file:///c:/ninja/water2.jpeg

you need to up load the pic on to the internet, not try and link it to your comp.

MaDuce
04-17-2004, 08:54 AM
Damm who kicked this thread up?

cut
04-17-2004, 08:56 AM
a newbie

Seoulstriker
04-17-2004, 12:35 PM
actually, this is sort of an appropriate thread to talk about the Shuttle. apparently, NASA is grounding the space shuttle very soon, as more and more maintenance is required for these shuttles to go into space. NASA is in a pickle right now.

GazB
04-19-2004, 02:55 AM
NASA is grounding the space shuttle very soon, as more and more maintenance is required for these shuttles to go into space. NASA is in a pickle right now.

Umm, the Shuttles have been grounded since the last crash.

BTW at 200,000ft they would have died of O2 starvation pretty damn quickly... if the cold didn't kill them first, or the lack of air pressure didn't cause them to explode...

Ballistic
04-19-2004, 04:10 AM
I think he means retiring the fleet GazB.

It wont happen for a while yet, probably closer to or a little after 2010, but it's not that far away. Cant wait to see the replacement...hope it's good !!

GazB
04-19-2004, 08:07 AM
Cant wait to see the replacement...hope it's good !!

The replacement they had... some super plane thing with an aerospike engine wasn't as wonderful as they thought it would be and work has stagnated...

I would doubt NASA knows what the Space shuttles replacement looks like at the moment. (apart from the actual replacement currently.... the Soyuz).

usa320
04-19-2004, 03:15 PM
n00bie alert.

shrek
04-19-2004, 03:34 PM
Don't think there is a replacement so to speak, I think that they are going to concentrate on "other" projects and other avenues of getting men into space. And then there's the whole "let's got to the moon again" thing going on. I'll try and find out more as it is all that is being talked about here!


Note: NASA is in the building next door! They have a better cafeteria than we do, punks!

Ratamacue
04-19-2004, 07:15 PM
Cant wait to see the replacement...hope it's good !!

The replacement they had... some super plane thing with an aerospike engine wasn't as wonderful as they thought it would be and work has stagnated...

I would doubt NASA knows what the Space shuttles replacement looks like at the moment. (apart from the actual replacement currently.... the Soyuz).

The original replacement was called the X-33, and NASA was building a half-scale mock-up of it for testing before the project was scrapped due to some of the needed materials being too advanced for production. It would have been an excellent replacement had it not been too far ahead of its time.