New norwegian frigate F-310 Fridtjof Nansen

[Loco]

The Izar shipyards in Ferrol(NW Spain) launched yesterday the first frigate, F-310 Fridtjof Nansen, of five AEGIS System frigates ordered by norwegian navy(the last two frigates will be built in modules in Spain and send to Bergen,Norwege circa 2009), and at the same time was laid the keel of the second frigate. To the ceremony attended the norwegian MoD, Kristin Kroh Devold. The budget of this project costs 1.320 million euros.
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From left to right, spanish AJEMA admiral, norwegian MoD Kristin Kroh Devold and norwege "Jefe de Estado Mayor de la Defensa"(sorry, I don´t now the english term). Btw, the MoD explained she dressed the typical dress of her region, in NW Norwege. Electores españoles, ¿no podríamos proponer un intercambio a Noruega y enviar a Laponia a Bono y que Krohn se quede aquí? Si ejjj que...

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Authorities in the guest chamber of the dockyards.

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The Nansen in its firsts stages. The building of this frigates has given a good rise to the commercial trade between Spain and Norwege.

[Loco]

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This was the birth of the first F-310 the 4/9/2003, when it was laid the keel with the block nº331, which contained the diesel generator of stern. This block measures 15,5 m and weights 82 tm.

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At the left of the photo is seen the keel of F-310 Fridtjof Nansen and at the right is the F-103 Blas de Lezo. This photos were taken a year ago.

http://www.revistanaval.com/imaxes/quilla_f310_02.jpgThe blocks 1 and 4 were built in Bergen, Norwege, and the blocks 2,3,5 and 6 in Ferrol, Spain.

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Virtual image of F-310 class. Technical data of this frigates, here:
http://www.revistanaval.com/contidos.php?ID=quilla_f310

[Loco]

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The 5/28/04 arrived to Ferrol Base in Spain the norwegian KNM «Horten» that it´s considered to be support ship to F-310 class frigates.

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[Skullknight]

Thanks for the pics/information.

[-Max2-]

Nice looking ship. :)

[kinghk]

. To the ceremony attended the norwegian MoD, Kristin Kroh Devold. .

Kristin Krohn Devold is here name.

The project has been in the media lately, but not in a positive way.

The shipyard have recieved a fine from the EU-commision of ~500 million ?, because of illegal financial support from the Spanish government.
This have pissed off employees of Norwegian shipyards, because this funds made the spanish shipyard able to lower their bid on the buliding.

Quality on the work have been crappy.

Like all military projects, the budchet have been to small, there is a need for more money.

[Marsuitor]

I don't really know much about this ship, but it sure looks nice. Hope it turns out as good as it's supposed to... If i hadn't been an army SOB, i'd enlist straight away! :lol:

[Steve Railsback]

Sweet! Great pictures!
Does anyone know why they name the ships after explorers and scientists? And not warriors/generals? :|

[cazorp]

Sweet! Great pictures!
Does anyone know why they name the ships after explorers and scientists? And not warriors/generals? :|

Äh, ni norrmän har väl inga krigare värda att nämna.. :P ;)

[Adri]

Sweet! Great pictures!
Does anyone know why they name the ships after explorers and scientists? And not warriors/generals? :|

Äh, ni norrmän har väl inga krigare värda att nämna.. :P ;)

bare de som slo dere ;)

[Fiber]

Sweet! Great pictures!
Does anyone know why they name the ships after explorers and scientists? And not warriors/generals? :|

I guess it is to give it a less agressive profile. Joining a peace keeping operation with a ship called "Erik Bloodaxe" may give the wrong impression.

And as cazorp wrote.. Who would they name it after, the danish Tordenskjold? :P

I for one like the name they gave the ship. But then again I'm a pretty peaceful guy.

[oldsoak]

Sweet! Great pictures!
Does anyone know why they name the ships after explorers and scientists? And not warriors/generals? :|

I guess it is to give it a less agressive profile. Joining a peace keeping operation with a ship called "Erik Bloodaxe" may give the wrong impression.

And as cazorp wrote.. Who would they name it after, the danish Tordenskjold? :P

I for one like the name they gave the ship. But then again I'm a pretty peaceful guy.

- I dont know, the name "Erik you-dont-want-to-cross-me Legbreaker" might have the desired effect without a shot being fired. :lol:
Seriously though - nice looking ship, may it serve the Kongelige Norske Marine well.

[kinghk]

Äh, ni norrmän har väl inga krigare värda att nämna.. :P ;)

The worlds two thinnest books:

1. Swedish war heroes.
2. German jokes.

[OldRecon]

Sweet! Great pictures!
Does anyone know why they name the ships after explorers and scientists? And not warriors/generals? :|
How many warriors of some fame do we have to show for it.

Admiral Tordenskjold ("Thundershield") and that's about it.
Maybe Olav den Hellige ("St. Olav").
Maybe General Fleischer (the commander of Norwegian at Narvik during 1940 and besides Oberst Eriksen, CO at Oscarsborg, about the only Norwegian officer of that ingominous defeat performing above average.
But after all a general is a landlubber.
Olav Tryggvason was name of a minelayer based at Horten that did pretty well for itself, sinking the German torpedo-boat (actualy a small destroyer) Albatross slightly N-NE of Søster islands in the outer part of the Oslo fjord. But think that name is allready taken by another ship.
Of modern Norwegian admirals worthy for naming a ship in the RNN can think of only two. Skule Storheil, commander of the V class destroyer "Stord" taking part in the sinking of Scharnhorst, or Ragnvald Tambs, commander of the Norwegian MTB-fleet based on Shetland during WW-2.
Maybe the name of the OC of the norwegian Commando Coy employed on Walcheren during the latter part of 1944. By nature of mission somewhat "marine" like in character, and as, far as Norwegian army operations on foreign soil goes, the instigator of the tradition of allmost incredible luck with regards to casualties. Don't remember all the details of the book by Arnfinn Haga about that unit, but they could easily have lost more than half the company in some of the attacks they carried out on Walcheren. Yet they only lost some 12-15 men I think, even though they were more or less involved in the same amount of heavy fighting as the other commando units there.

Funny thing about those frigates is the navy don't seem to have enough men to man them. + they are way over budget.

[Steve Railsback]

Funny thing about those frigates is the navy don't seem to have enough men to man them. + they are way over budget.

Well I guess we can just give a couple away to the Baltic countries like we do with all our other naval ”equipment” I don’t think they will mind getting a top modern frigate for free. ;)

[cazorp]

Äh, ni norrmän har väl inga krigare värda att nämna.. :P ;)

The worlds two thinnest books:

1. Swedish war heroes.
2. German jokes.

Lets mention a real book instead - the one about our latest war:

Björlin, Gustaf: Kriget i Norge 1814 Stockholm 1893.

http://www.smb.nu/images/svenskakrig/kartor_krig/1814.gif
Norrmännen vägrar att godta den förening med Sverige som beslutades i Kiel efter Karl Johans krig mot Napoleon. Karl Johan beslutar om omedelbar militär aktion för att landet inte skall gå förlorat för Sverige. Operationerna inleds den 26 juli 1814 med att den svenska flottan går mot Hvalöarna. Kort därefter går stark svensk armé in i södra Norge. Det norska motståndet bryter snabbt samman och unionen kan stadfästas.


Your move ;)

[OldRecon]

Äh, ni norrmän har väl inga krigare värda att nämna.. :P ;)

The worlds two thinnest books:

1. Swedish war heroes.
2. German jokes.

Lets mention a real book instead - the one about our latest war:

Björlin, Gustaf: Kriget i Norge 1814 Stockholm 1893.

http://www.smb.nu/images/svenskakrig/kartor_krig/1814.gif
Norrmännen vägrar att godta den förening med Sverige som beslutades i Kiel efter Karl Johans krig mot Napoleon. Karl Johan beslutar om omedelbar militär aktion för att landet inte skall gå förlorat för Sverige. Operationerna inleds den 26 juli 1814 med att den svenska flottan går mot Hvalöarna. Kort därefter går stark svensk armé in i södra Norge. Det norska motståndet bryter snabbt samman och unionen kan stadfästas.


Your move ;)

Well, by that time the Royal Navy had destroyed most of the ships in the Danish-Norwegian fleet, bar a few rowing gun-boats that didn't amount too much.
After withdrawing Swedish troops from the continent you had an army rather bigger than ours too.
It wasn't the invasion of the Hvaler islands that was important, as much as the landing on the Kråkerøya further inshore. That enabled the Swedes to bombard both the small fortresses at Isegran and Hutholmen as well as the fortress town of Fredrikstad itself.
If you have visited the area I guess you noticed immediately why landing on Kråkerøya was such a good tactical move on the part of you Swedes in that campaign (being able to bombard your opponent from superior height has never been a bad thing).
If you haven't, I can reccomend a visit. The Old town still look much like it has allways done with Vauban type moats, stonewalled houses, an arsenal building that was the largest of its kind in Europe at the time it was built during the 18th century. It even had an active garrison until quite recently, before it was closed down in the post cold war area with amongst others a junior leadership school for the army AA-artillery branch and recruit training centre for same branch.
Having one of those quarrels in good spirit of brotherly rivalry, that we Norwegians and Swedes tend to indulge in now and then, I guess I could dig up something about the campaigns of Admiral Petter Wessel Tordenskiold (Dynekilen... etc.) or two case of severe mauling of Swedish cross border probes by Norwegian ski troops in the years between 1807-1812. But let's not get childish ;).

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Some 18th century uniforms on the left and on the right Norwegian uniforms from the period around 1814
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[cazorp]

Naah, let us not get childish - after all, you guy's the favourite neighbour to us, even though you're not that much into unions, now or then.. ;)

but I liked the concept, Sweden & Norway incorporated - we'd be tough to break in the winter olympics! :D

Swedens old union flag;
http://forum.skalman.nu/files/union2.gif

Norways old union flag;
http://forum.skalman.nu/files/norunion.gif

[J-10]

Norway woot

[OldRecon]

Naah, let us not get childish - after all, you guy's the favourite neighbour to us, even though you're not that much into unions, now or then.. ;)

but I liked the concept, Sweden & Norway incorporated - we'd be tough to break in the winter olympics! :D

Swedens old union flag;
http://forum.skalman.nu/files/union2.gif

Norways old union flag;
http://forum.skalman.nu/files/norunion.gif

On the other hand, if Norway and Sweden still had been one kingdom during 1940 it would have been rather more difficult for you Swedes to stay out of WW-2. So maybe the split wasn't that bad after all.
The Swedish armed forces wasn't that much better prepared than the Norwegian ones at the time, mind you.
You had the same sort of problems with socialy unbalanced recruitment to the officer and NCO corpse, with resulting distrust between the officer corps and certain other large (and thus important) segments of society.
The use of army elements in internal security policing against labour movement strikes being one aggravating element of that distrust. Episodes like Ådalen in Sweden or "the battle of Menstad" in Norway most certainly didn't do our armed forces much good with regards to securing neccessary funding later on during the 1930's.

[Steve Railsback]

I know I'm getting old, but wasn't this thread about a frigate??? :roll:

[Guttorm]

Aaaanyway.
Iff all the ships were deployed at once, the Navy would have problems manning them, BUT, seeing as all of them won't be done untill 2010, I don't see a problem. The crews of the old Oslo class frigats will embark the new frigats as they come along.