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Leviabramovich
07-26-2008, 06:55 PM
I am looking for pics of the Czech Vz61 skorpion, or the Serbian model, in use by soldiers or bodyguards. Actually, I cant find much pics at all besides the few that come up on Google searches.
Anyhow, Im hoping someone will have something cool.....Thanks again.

Ludipipo
07-26-2008, 07:23 PM
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/m84skorpion1dotjpg

wicked_hind
07-27-2008, 02:14 AM
http://www.mod.gov.yu/vojska/slike/naoruzanje/kov/streljacko/pistolj_M84_Skorpion/_DSC0943dotjpg

http://www.military.cz/czech/weapons/skorpion_vz61/image005dotjpg

http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/m84skorpion3dotjpg

angry cow
07-27-2008, 06:43 AM
Very cool, nice to actually see a picture of a counter-terrorist using a Skorpion, for once.

Abbadon the Despoiler
07-27-2008, 10:33 AM
here re few, I ll post more for you later...

http://www.army.cz/images/acr/102pp_prostejov/insignie1dotjpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6188/092007xk9dotjpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff158/Tireur2/DSCF8743dotjpg

Battlebuds
07-27-2008, 01:15 PM
Very nice pictures!

phonics
07-27-2008, 03:06 PM
Oooo they were godly in Call of Duty 4.

Heh,jokes/game references aside can the Skorpion go long-range?Seems to me its meant to be a secondary firearm rather then primary.Nice pictures btw!

Leviabramovich
07-28-2008, 12:36 AM
I am happy to see such nice pics! I have searched all over the net and I couldnt find any, except for the awesome Serbian one with the Suppresor.

I remember seeing a pic of a skorpion with a Bodyguard, but the pic was in a book...anyhow, Id love to see more, and Im sure others would too!

Also, as far as i know, the skorpion was a surprise, and turned out to be very effective in close range. Also, the 7.65 is deadlier than you might think. I saw a news story of a roberry in Britain, where the robbers had Skorpions in 9x18mm Makarov. I preferr the original 7.65 look though.

Does anyone know if a Czech Suppressor was creatred where the Folding stock could be closed and the suppressor still attached?? I saw this in an action movie that was filmed in Ukraine once..

Abbadon the Despoiler
07-28-2008, 04:50 AM
Maximal effective range of the scorpion vz 61 is about 1.5 km...its special purpose automatic pistol or side arm.

http://www.czub.cz/tapety/poster_4_1280dotjpg

http://www.armac.cz/files/products/samopal_sa_61_skorpion_2dotjpg

http://www.sweb.cz/PETATRICATNICI/SOUBORY/SKORPIONdotgif

http://www.oktarget.cz/9MM%20AUTOMATIC%20GUNdotjpg

http://www.oktarget.cz/AUTOMATIC%20RIFLE%20VZ.61dotjpg

I ll post some more when I m home from work

Rumcajs
07-28-2008, 07:46 AM
since february 2008 semi-auto scorpion called Vz.61 Skarabeus is available, made by Puškařství Pavel Kupec in 7,65 mm Browning

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2508/gunsinfoczscarabeusscarqx4dotjpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/672/gunsinfoczscarabeusscarqo4dotjpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2396/gunsinfoczscarabeusscarho1dotjpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/672/gunsinfoczscarabeusscarqo4dotjpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8465/ndblogcz25634707ol7dotjpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6949/gunsinfoczscarabeusscargp0dotjpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8522/gunsinfoczscarabeusscaryr8dotjpg (http://imageshack.us)

kilroy1911
07-28-2008, 09:23 AM
1500 meters effective range? well... maybe the bullet can be dangerous in that distance but i will definitely not call it a effective range... I think that you can effectively aim at 100 - 150 meter...

But maybe 1500 m is a typing error?

LEVIABRAMOVICH: look for slovak police pics, Skorpion is issued to regular police officers as a sidearm in situations when they can meet dangerous criminals - like roadblocks when looking for someone etc. Skorpion is probably still used also by slovak special police or military units, but it was widely replaced by various HK SMGs.

However, Skorpion is still a standard SMG for "2nd grade" special units in former Czechoslovakia - for example czech elite prison guard unit - SWAT-like unit used to escort criminals from prison to court, to guard specific prisoners or to solve prison riots.

there are some czech or slovak members with police/military background, they may be more helpfull.

Abbadon the Despoiler
07-28-2008, 09:32 AM
But maybe 1500 m is a typing error?

yep. my bad. Sa 61s effective range is between 50-150 meters and 1500 meters is maximum lethal range. thanks for pointing that out.


Does anyone know if a Czech Suppressor was creatred where the Folding stock could be closed and the suppressor still attached?? I saw this in an action movie that was filmed in Ukraine once..

http://www.ikup.cz/upload/41792/AM2_273723dotjpg

Babalooba
07-28-2008, 09:41 AM
Sadly, I'll never be able to see this gun and not think of the Klobb from Goldeneye...

kilroy1911
07-28-2008, 09:44 AM
there was a skorpion in goldeneye??

Babalooba
07-28-2008, 09:48 AM
there was a skorpion in goldeneye??

Not in the movie... but the Nintendo 64 game.

Unfortunately it was a terrible gun in the game. :-(

LongShot
07-28-2008, 09:49 AM
there was a skorpion in goldeneye??

Yeah, they called it the Klobb....named after one of the game developers, Ken Lobb.....I dont know why I know that.....needless to say it was the worst (arguably) weapon in the game...

Polygon
07-28-2008, 11:19 AM
They couldn't use the actual names for the weapons in-game because of some sort of legal dispute or issue. Hence, that is why all of the real world weapons in the game have fictional designations.

What was interesting though is that the beta pics of Goldeneye had the correct names for the small arms.

Zeev
07-28-2008, 12:47 PM
nice pics, thanks for sharing.

therifleman
07-28-2008, 01:01 PM
Yeah, they called it the Klobb....named after one of the game developers, Ken Lobb.....I dont know why I know that.....needless to say it was the worst (arguably) weapon in the game...

Yeah I remember it being in Goldeneye as the "Klobb". It quite common, and quite bad as well.

Goldeneye had some bizarre names for weapons. The MP5k was called the "D5K Deutsche." The M16 was called the "AR33". The AK-74 was called the "KF-7 soviet."

good times..good times

LongShot
07-28-2008, 01:24 PM
Yeah I remember it being in Goldeneye as the "Klobb". It quite common, and quite bad as well.

Goldeneye had some bizarre names for weapons. The MP5k was called the "D5K Deutsche." The M16 was called the "AR33". The AK-74 was called the "KF-7 soviet."

good times..good times


It did indeed....I think it was also the first game to feature the P-90....called the RCP-90 in the game I believe...


I found some Skorpion vids, I would imbed them but I seem to not know how.....

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc7e6yT-nbQ)

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOPArh1q_r4&feature=related)

and here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka6QEhg5Epo&feature=related)

Abbadon the Despoiler
07-28-2008, 05:51 PM
ya, its decent weapon.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1311/ideb2006slovakarmyrecogkj9dotjpg

Leviabramovich
07-31-2008, 03:07 AM
That last one must be the 9mmpara (9x19mm) version, since there are no magwell dimples in the receiver.

RUMCAJS= Do you own 2 of those?
I see that the receivers have the Czech military "proof mark" (of the Crossed Swords)
how come that company can use the Czech military "proof mark"?? is it meant to be an exact copy?
Is puskarstvi pavel kupec a major gun manufacturer in Praga or in Czech rep.?

Also, they look as though they are made with all original Skorpion parts. Could you please open the top and show a picture looking in? Id LOVE to see the trigger group, and the inside quality of the receiver. The Vz.61 parakeus looks like a GREAT quality gun.

Bro Jangles
07-31-2008, 03:11 AM
any one have experince with the semi auto version being sold here in the us resently, is like 600 bucks and i was interested

kilroy1911
07-31-2008, 04:55 AM
That last one must be the 9mmpara (9x19mm) version, since there are no magwell dimples in the receiver.

RUMCAJS= Do you own 2 of those?
I see that the receivers have the Czech military "proof mark" (of the Crossed Swords)
how come that company can use the Czech military "proof mark"?? is it meant to be an exact copy?
Is puskarstvi pavel kupec a major gun manufacturer in Praga or in Czech rep.?

Also, they look as though they are made with all original Skorpion parts. Could you please open the top and show a picture looking in? Id LOVE to see the trigger group, and the inside quality of the receiver. The Vz.61 parakeus looks like a GREAT quality gun.

puskarstvi pavel kupec is definitely NOT a major manufacturer but remember that even a small manufacturer can create a decent firearm. Especially if you dont need any R&D... Puskarstvi pavel kupec is making custom hunting rifles, AFAIK skarabeus pistol (skorpion) is their first "military style" firearm.

www.puskarstvi.cz

VUCICEVIC
07-31-2008, 12:15 PM
the serbian model-zastava m84 is been made in 7,65 para (7,65x19) to.I think that is the best combination.3 years ago my father had one with suppressor,i shot from it and it sounds like some loud machine working,you would never guess someone is shooting.we sold it for 300 euros,but without suppressor

Rumcajs
07-31-2008, 12:48 PM
That last one must be the 9mmpara (9x19mm) version, since there are no magwell dimples in the receiver.

RUMCAJS= Do you own 2 of those?
I see that the receivers have the Czech military "proof mark" (of the Crossed Swords)
how come that company can use the Czech military "proof mark"?? is it meant to be an exact copy?
Is puskarstvi pavel kupec a major gun manufacturer in Praga or in Czech rep.?

Also, they look as though they are made with all original Skorpion parts. Could you please open the top and show a picture looking in? Id LOVE to see the trigger group, and the inside quality of the receiver. The Vz.61 parakeus looks like a GREAT quality gun.

the producer of the Vz.61E is Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod: http://www.czub.cz/index.php?p=32&idp=9&ids=36&idz=227&lang=en
but semiauto version is made by Pavel Kupec´s company, he uses some new parts and some original Škorpion´s parts for new Skarabeus. Nope, I have no Škorpion or Scarabeus, but semiauto version of Škorpion is new stuff here, so I guess it can be interesting for people abroad. Well, Pavel Kupec is well-known for the quality of his guns.

Rumcajs
07-31-2008, 12:57 PM
there was a skorpion in goldeneye??

I don´t remeber exactly what part of the Bond series it was, but in that Connery used samopal Sa-26:-))

1911-a1
07-31-2008, 01:11 PM
the serbian model-zastava m84 is been made in 7,65 para (7,65x19) to.I think that is the best combination.3 years ago my father had one with suppressor,i shot from it and it sounds like some loud machine working,you would never guess someone is shooting.we sold it for 300 euros,but without suppressor


Do you have any pictures of it? Can you get me one?p-)

VUCICEVIC
07-31-2008, 02:08 PM
i don´t because my father did not let me take a photo of it...i could get you one,but without silencer,and it would cost much more...but i wouldn`t do that because i dont know who you are,and you are stil to young to have your own automatic weapon...i can sell you zastava m70 pistol for 150 euros but legaly

Moon-Shine
07-31-2008, 07:19 PM
You have to admit it's not the best looking gun.

VUCICEVIC
07-31-2008, 10:05 PM
i like the look of it,today all the guns look like they are made for kids,all from plastic. Plus zastavas skorpions are i OD green colour,just beautiful

phonics
08-01-2008, 02:16 AM
the picture abbadon posted looks sexy for such a small thing.

Leviabramovich
08-01-2008, 03:12 PM
Does not look good???

I think the Vz61 Skorpion is a Very handsome looking Machine pistol.
Considering the look of other machine pistols/subguns, the Skorpion is one of the MOST ORIGINAL, and, it is also used in movies because it looks so badass.

Get the movie "Last Run", with Armand Assante. It is filmed in Hungary, and maybe Ukraine or Poland as well. It is a great movie, with lots of Skorpions being used.

Mormaeglin
08-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Question for 100 points, was Skorpion able to use drum mags?

Leviabramovich
08-08-2008, 05:23 PM
CZ did not make any drum mags for the Vz61, but Im sure that an aftermarket company could fabricate one example. It would most likely look like an ak drum, tilted for proper feed angle, but much smaller to fit the 32ACP. That sounds very interesting.
I dont think there is enough demand for anyone to make them.

Anymore pictures anyone??? Does anyone have the pic of the arab bodyguard with a skorpion???

Mormaeglin
08-08-2008, 05:44 PM
Thank You very much for info sir.

Leviabramovich
08-08-2008, 06:41 PM
Vucicevic- I noticed that you have a Nazi Swastika tattoo on your chest.
Do you mind if I asked you why you are so confused? The swastika was developed by Hitlers Nazi government, a Government that viewed ALL Ethnic Slavs as Sub-human. They viewed the Nordic People to be somehow super-human. Obviously, we know this is Bull****, but I dont see how you could Support the Nazis, OR their childish Ideas, if they thought that your Ancestors were garbage, and Killed hundreds of thousands of Slavs from Lithuania to Yugoslavia.

Leviabramovich
08-08-2008, 06:42 PM
I found several pics of Serbian Soldiers with the M84 Skorpion. It is All black, with the black pistol grip. AWESOME PICS. I will try and get them on here, they are in a military book.

Leviabramovich
08-10-2008, 11:12 PM
???????????

VUCICEVIC
08-11-2008, 05:17 PM
"Vucicevic- I noticed that you have a Nazi Swastika tattoo on your chest.
Do you mind if I asked you why you are so confused? The swastika was developed by Hitlers Nazi government, a Government that viewed ALL Ethnic Slavs as Sub-human. They viewed the Nordic People to be somehow super-human. Obviously, we kn....."

ok,i see i must give you an explanation...i dont give a ***** about Hitler,and his Germany,our priests had that simbol in 16. century,swasika is simbol of lite,and power,and that is why i have that tattoo...it is like some croatian has tattoo of skull and bones because he likes pirates,and you say:"this
guy has chetnik simbol on his chest"
but because this photo may insult someone i changed it,is this avatar better... :)

VUCICEVIC
08-11-2008, 05:21 PM
I found several pics of Serbian Soldiers with the M84 Skorpion. It is All black, with the black pistol grip. AWESOME PICS. I will try and get them on here, they are in a military book.
yes,some m84s are green,not all of them...

marty67
03-22-2009, 10:44 PM
You have to admit it's not the best looking gun.

Very Very wrong, in fact its looks alone are 50% of the reason i OWN one.