Deltas Jerry Boykin linked to Abu Ghraib.

[sethen]

http://www.baptiststandard.com/postnuke/index.php?module=htmlpages&funl=display&pid=1769&print=1

[MEGR]

He did what he thought was right. I support him 100%. He is Delta, he knows what needs to be done about prisoners and such. He did what was best for his country, and the US/Coalition Military.

[Fargin]

I don't.

[usa320]

Im with Devgru.

The image that the press is painting, this picture that these were poor, innocent people that were horrible tortured is crap.

Just to give an idea of the kinda people in Abu Gharib- one guy that was jailed there was in for killing a man and his son, then raping his wife and 2 daughters.

Others are HVT's of the former Iraqi regime and members of Al Qaeda and other groups.

Methods like sleep deprivation, sitting in uncomfortable positions for long times, loud music, changing the temperature and using dogs to threaten them are all fair methods IMHO if extracting information can save lives by preventing future attacks, lead to other HVT's or shed some light on the WMD concern.

Frankly, id be concerned if we werent doing everything possible to get information outta these pricks.

Next time we just gotta send em all to Pakistan or egypt where the media isnt hellbent on seeing their own country lose a war as important as the global war on terrorism.

[SOG]

well 1st off i think his religious remarks need to be left at home. he should think before he says **** that could be damaging because he feels that way personally.

as for his record and what hes doing, i have no problem with it. hes under investigation for what hes approved to do. from what i read hes doing it to terrorists, and hes not the meanest guy around. god help the terrorists if we handed them over to the iraqi officials so they could extract the same info. in vietnam EVERYONE would have rather been interogated by the US forces rather than the yards.

[MEGR]

well 1st off i think his religious remarks need to be left at home. he should think before he says **** that could be damaging because he feels that way personally.

as for his record and what hes doing, i have no problem with it. hes under investigation for what hes approved to do. from what i read hes doing it to terrorists, and hes not the meanest guy around. god help the terrorists if we handed them over to the iraqi officials so they could extract the same info. in vietnam EVERYONE would have rather been interogated by the US forces rather than the yards.

Hehe.. If everyone is mad at putting jobs overseas, we should make the best, and do interrogations overseas.. Trust me.. The Russians, or the Chinease, or the Koreans will have no problems getting info outta these folks..

[One?]

WASHINGTON (RNS)--One of the major players in the Iraqi prison abuse scandal, it now appears, was the same general almost fired last year for describing the war on terror as a clash between Judeo-Christian values and Satan.


if thats how he views the war, then he can go f*** himself!

[n4292936]

I dont particularly disagree with most methods of interrogation that have gone on in the Iraq prisons, but man, this guys is such a self rightious prick. His comments are only giving credence to the militants claims that America is against all muslims. Casting the war in the manner he did was just stupid from every conceivable angle!

Regarding the interrogations... in my opinion, anything that can be done to SF soldiers being trained in interrogation resistance can be done to the prisoners... suggestions that we should hand them over to others however, smacks of bowing to the lowest common denominator. We must have standards.

I've always valued utilitarianism in issues like this. If absolute torture of one person will save two people from the same fate, it is warranted. If it saves a child from rape, it is warranted. These are extreme examples of course but they illustrate the point that torture is not to be universally condemned. In most cases however, and probably most that are under investigation, it is uncalled for and unprofessional.

[Gringo]

wtf is it with trying to justify what you do by using God or Religion as an excuse.
Bin Laden and Bush have used it in their speechs.

I say, sod the factioning of religions. All it has led to is war and genocide, because they don't go to the same church.

[Midav]

They would be smart to listen to the general.

[OB Kenobi]

He did what he thought was right. I support him 100%. He is Delta.

He's also a Christian lunatic who thinks Iraqis are followers of Satan. I bet the guy is a pedophile too.

[Thor]

It is important to stress that some things are ok regarding to the geneva convention other things are not. However I think the US should have regarded the rebels as illegal combatants as in Afghanistan. Right or wrong this would have been better then the current situation. These things always comes back at you. In the next conflict captured US soldiers can expect a harsh treatment.