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dunkin
07-29-2008, 11:52 AM
Nice to know that a soldier is a soldier in any country, and they don't let "political matter" interfere with that.

Thought this might be a good break from all the bashing.

Enjoy




Soldiers engage in front-line diplomacy

Troops visit Iraq-Iran border, converse with Iranian security

By James Warden (wardenj@estripes.osd.mil), Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Tuesday, July 29, 2008

KHANIQIN, Iraq — The soldiers with the 407th Civil Affairs Battalion and the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment had just planned a short little outing.
They were staying on a base near a border crossing between Iran and Iraq. The crossing is a heavily trafficked route for Iraqi oil going into Iran, and Iranian pilgrims going into Iraq. But crossing would be unthinkable for the Americans. After all, the two countries aren’t talking.

That shouldn’t stop a little innocent tourism, though. The Americans removed their names and ranks. Those wearing hats with the rank took them off. The soldiers left their assault rifles behind. The few with handguns left them strapped to their legs, but everyone else went without a weapon. No one wore body armor.

The Americans checked in at the border office and then walked right up to a pair of closed gates — joking that, of course, the Iraqi gate was the ugly one. They smiled and took turns taking snapshots of one another a few steps from Iran. Occasionally, they waved to one of the dozens of Iranian soldiers watching about 100 meters away.

The Iranians outnumbered the Americans by a huge margin, and there was almost no Iraqi security on the border. Yet the Iranians warily eyed the Americans for several minutes. Gradually, one of them worked up the courage to approach the gate. The others followed.

They stared through the gate at the Americans. The Americans stared back.

Then one of the Iraqi security guards broke the ice by talking with his Iranian counterpart. An Iraqi interpreter with the soldiers spoke a bit of a Persian dialect and soon he was translating small talk between the Americans and the Iranians. The atmosphere was stiff at first — but more like mingling at a stranger’s party than parleying with an enemy.

Both sides soon warmed up to the conversation. Getting into the spirit of the exchange, one of the soldiers offered a patch to an Iranian soldier as a gift. The Iranian soldier’s leader told him he couldn’t accept it, but he was gracious anyway. Eventually, an Iranian soldier decided to address the conversation directly.

"We are proud to be talking to the Americans," he said, then reminded them, "We Iranians are strong people."

The two sides continued talking for a little while longer — no more than a few minutes — before the Americans said their goodbyes and walked away, laughing about what they saw as the Iranians’ hubris and wondering what they’d think of American warplanes.

"We didn’t see them; maybe they will," the Iraqi interpreter said wryly.
But the group wasn’t in the mood to dwell on future wars. The politicians may still be debating whether to talk to Iran. But the soldiers had just done exactly that, and the talk had been pleasant. It would be something to tell their families when they called home.

Perhaps when the Iranian soldiers got home that night, the soldiers pondered, they, too, will tell their families how two countries started talking.


LINK: http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=56413


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James Warden / S&S
Barbed wire and cement barriers separate an Iranian building from Iraq at a border crossing near Khaniqin, Iraq. Despite the barriers, Iranian and American soldiers exchanged small talk through the gates that separate the two countries.


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James Warden / S&S
American soldiers look at Iranian soldiers through a gate that divides the two countries at a border crossing near Khaniqin, Iraq.


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James Warden / S&S
An Iranian border castle can be seen through the gun port at a matching Iraqi border castle near Khaniqin, Iraq. Matching pairs of castles sit along the Iran-Iraq border.

Laworkerbee
07-29-2008, 12:29 PM
Great post!

dave81
07-29-2008, 01:18 PM
Extremely cool. I've interacted many times with fellow soldiers whose languages I didn't speak, but never with an "enemy".

Tip: Aside from uniform items and gear, the other big icebreakers amongst soldiers are chocolate bars from your home country, and a camera to take snapshots.

And ****. **** always works.

brainplay
07-29-2008, 01:33 PM
Why exactly did they remove nametags and rank? PERSEC?

Laworkerbee
07-29-2008, 01:35 PM
Why exactly did they remove nametags and rank? PERSEC?

Perhaps OPSEC as well, don't want to be giving anything away for free.

dunkin
07-29-2008, 02:35 PM
Why exactly did they remove nametags and rank? PERSEC?

I thought that was an interesting note also, I can understand the names and ranks, but then why try to pass a patch over?

We're just wargaming this after the fact, but it was still cool. Wish I could have been there.

Arvin
07-29-2008, 02:40 PM
Nice to hear.

Power_serj
07-29-2008, 02:42 PM
Why exactly did they remove nametags and rank? PERSEC?

Maybe they didn't want to make it feel like they were representing the government or US Army, but were going to talk to them as just an American, rather than a soldier.

Arvin
07-29-2008, 02:48 PM
If you say you are an American in Iran you will be bum rushed by Iranians asking you a million and one questions.

Then they ask for autographs and pictures.Most Americans I met think Iranians are blood thirsty "Ay-rabs".

Createdeemcee
07-29-2008, 02:56 PM
Very nice to see!!

LongShot
07-29-2008, 02:59 PM
Thanks for posting....good photos and a good read.

Stainless Steel Rat
07-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Nice article. Not unprecedented, ground-pounders in probably every war (hot or cold as the case may be) probably understand the fears and hopes and thoughts of the men directly opposing them (whom, depending on a government and policies that they have little influence over, they may be asked to kill one day in the future). Contacts like these have occurred many times, and probably will continue as long as soldiers have to occupy ground.

Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

Hollis
07-29-2008, 03:16 PM
Great story, Thanks for the post.

Mastermind
07-29-2008, 03:48 PM
Good Story...enjoyed it.
Thanks for posting...MM

angry cow
07-29-2008, 04:24 PM
Great story. Any coverage from the Iranian side?

dunkin
07-29-2008, 05:06 PM
Great story. Any coverage from the Iranian side?

None that I can understand p-)

timetraveller
07-29-2008, 06:10 PM
Excellent article and hopefully those in office will take note and realise just by talkin to another gains many grounds ...

annihilation
07-29-2008, 09:00 PM
If you say you are an American in Iran you will be bum rushed by Iranians asking you a million and one questions.

Then they ask for autographs and pictures.Most Americans I met think Iranians are blood thirsty "Ay-rabs".

blood thirsty "Persians".......there is a difference, Persians have a richer and more interesting history. :)

benbach
09-09-2008, 09:46 PM
thats a great story. would have been fun to be there

ColinP
09-10-2008, 12:07 AM
If you say you are an American in Iran you will be bum rushed by Iranians asking you a million and one questions.

".


Well if the rush is made up of young beautiful Persian woman, I would willing sacrifice myself for my country. In fact I might be willing to sacrifice myself several times over!