Olmert to make dramatic announcement this evening

[alexz]

He either quits or sold Israel.


PM to address public live at 8 pm Wednesday, summons press to his office. Earlier Olmert slammed Israeli public's propensity to 'grumble,' said State cannot handle Iranian threat while juggling all education, welfare, housing needs

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will make a dramatic announcement to the public on Wednesday at 8 pm. Hee summoned reporters to his residence, and the address will be made from there.

The prime minister became enraged with the actions of the coalition and the Labor Party earlier in the day, and has previously threatened to dismiss ministers who vote against the government's directives, but it is unclear whether his announcement will pertain to this matter.

Olmert: Syria must decide between axis of evil, peace and prosperity / Ronen Medzini

PM vows to continue negotiations with Damascus 'so long as I am in office,' says Israel intent on providing genuine alternative to Syria. Speaking at National Security College graduation, Olmert's rhetoric was aimed primarily at domestic Kadima rival Tzipi Livni

Earlier Wednesday Olmert spoke out against Israeli's tendency towards grumbling. "From a nation of yea-sayers we have become a querulous nation that grumbles about almost everything."

Olmert was speaking at a Round Table Israel convention, held at the Knesset. Other participants in the convention included government, civil, and business representatives.

The prime minister spoke of the need for prioritization in a state with limited resources. "I want to define realistic expectations. We are neither the richest state in the world nor the easiest state in which to live," said Olmert. He called for the definition of "the State's functions, what it does, and what it must do."

In reference to the Dorner Report, dealing with the state of the Holocaust survivors in Israel he said, "The Dorner report was submitted to us less than a month ago. We discussed it yesterday… the ministries held discussions on the subject, and yesterday we discussed alternatives that could supply the Dorner Report with the correct support."

He added that "it must be understood that there are certain things the State cannot do. The State cannot fight against the Iranian threat while concerning itself with Jewish education in Russia and the former Soviet Union, and in addition supplying welfare, education, and housing with all of their needs."

Olmert covertly criticized the claims of the Gush Katif evacuees, following the Knesset's resolution to instate an investigation committee in order to inspect the failures in handling their cases.

"When the State makes difficult decisions such as the evacuation of settlements, it needs to support the third and fourth generations because the territory was larger there, as opposed to here, where it is narrower. They want their descendents living near them, but the line must be drawn somewhere."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3575530,00.html

[Steaks]

He may be a twit but if he quits, Netanyahu would be next biggest **** right? I sure hope not. He's a psychopath. It would be a sad turn of events for a great nation.

[alexz]

He may be a twit but if he quits, Netanyahu would be next biggest **** right? I sure hope not. He's a psychopath. It would be a sad turn of events for a great nation.

No, there will be internal elections in Kadima party and general elections are not scheduled until lie 2010. Oh here we go he starts talking

So far he sais how great he is while boldly lieng about many facts. So no surprises yet.

[Fade]

Oh here we go he starts talking
Keep us posted, if its no trouble

[SBL]

My curiosity is piqued.

[gayarabianman]

Omfg, i've read on a number of websites that they reckon something "big" will happen today?
What will it be i wonder.
I hope he doesn't shoot off some bombs at Iran or something crazy like that?
Anyway enough "bollocks" from me for 1 day.
See what happens?

[SBL]

Omfg, i've read on a number of websites that they reckon something "big" will happen today?
What will it be i wonder.
I hope he doesn't shoot off some bombs at Iran or something crazy like that?
Anyway enough "bollocks" from me for 1 day.
See what happens?
Post less, please.

[alexz]

Bush is teh best
Peace is around the corner.
Now he get to the point admiting some error for which he is sorry.

Talking about the bad police / prosecution and what they have done to him.

seems like he about to quiet but hints that those behind preeching him (Ehud Barak) will pay the price too one day.

He won't run for the Kadima primieries on Sept 17th

He will resign when some is elected.

[Jeancarl]

Keep us posted, if its no trouble

Yeap, Keep us posted, we can't watch it

wondering what he will say
some suggestions....
1) he quit
2) he's leaving the country
3) he will invade Gaza
4) he will give the Golan height back to Syria
5) we are going to attack Iran
6) we are going to attack hezbolah tonight
7) he will fire all his ministers
....
who knows
let's wait and seep-)

[alexz]

Official, he will resigned when a new head of Kadima party is elected.

[Power_serj]

It's either:

A.)he's going to retire
or
B.)He hands Israel to the Palestinians

I bet it's A.

[Elemental666]

He either quits or sold Israel.

I lol'ed :lol:

He just announced he's not gonna run for Kadima's primaries and will resign when someone's elected.

P.S. Thanks for the heads up Alex.

[gayarabianman]

Yeap, Keep us posted, we can't watch it

wondering what he will say
some suggestions....
1) he quit
2) he's leaving the country
3) he will invade Gaza
4) he will give the Golan height back to Syria
5) we are going to attack Iran
6) we are going to attack hezbolah tonight
7) he will fire all his ministers
....
who knows
let's wait and seep-)
Exacley what i said, yet i got told to post less :(
Arggh well the joys of the gimpernet :P

[alexz]

Israeli experts say that must have been a deal with the prosecutors in return for not
pressing charges for one ofthe 7 active corruption investigation against him (he is a busy man).

[Fade]

Israeli experts say that must have been a deal with the prosecutors in return for not
pressing charges for one ofthe 7 active corruption investigation against him (he is a busy man).
Busy man sounds about right, lol

[BPEL]

Official, he will resigned when a new head of Kadima party is elected.

Will it be Livni?

[drunken sailor]

So when is he leaving? I can not be quick enough. Who will replace him in that party, Barak? I hope not.

[drunken sailor]

Will it be Livni?

She is pretty tough, I like her for the job over Barak but she may pee herself when she has to launch a attack on someone although Golda was a great leader.

[Snoshi]

So when is he leaving? I can not be quick enough. Who will replace him in that party, Barak? I hope not.

He will resign in September.

[drunken sailor]

He will resign in September.


Me getting drunk tonight and having a party for that buddy lol.

[IraGlacialis]

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/nws/p/ap_logo_106.png (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/brand/SIG=br2v03;_ylt=Aj2WDsAaj.jqTqnHZdHeFGoUewgF/*http://www.ap.org)
Israeli prime minister to resign in September
By MARK LAVIE, Associated Press Writer

JERUSALEM - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced Wednesday he will resign in September, throwing his country into political turmoil and raising doubts about progress for U.S.-backed Mideast peace efforts.
Olmert's brief address, given at his official Jerusalem residence, included harsh criticism of corruption investigations against him. He said he was choosing the public good over his personal justice. He has consistently denied wrongdoing but pledged to resign if indicted.
Appearing angry and reading from a prepared text, Olmert said, "I was forced to defend myself against relentless attacks from self-appointed 'fighters for justice' who sought to depose me from my position, when the ends sanctified all the means."
Olmert, whose term was to end in 2010, said he would not run in his party's primary election, set for Sept. 17, and would step down afterward "in order to allow the chairman to be elected and form a different government quickly and efficiently." He did not answer questions from reporters.
Olmert's popularity dropped below 20 percent at one point after his bloody but inconclusive war in Lebanon in 2006, and a string of corruption allegations and police interrogations have battered him in recent months. Political analysts here have predicted his resignation for weeks.
In Washington, the State Department said Olmert's eventual departure from his post would not affect U.S. efforts to broker some kind of peace agreement with the Palestinians by the end of the year.
"The Israelis will work out their own politics," spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters. "We are going to look forward to working with all responsible Israeli leaders in the government, whether it is this government or some future government. I'm just not going to comment on their politics."
Olmert, 62, served as Jerusalem mayor for 10 years until 2003, when he was appointed trade minister in former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's government. He held that position until he became prime minister in 2006 after Sharon suffered a devastating stroke.
His decision not to run in the Kadima Party primary sets in motion a process to choose a new prime minister. Main candidates in his party are Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Transport Minister Shaul Mofaz, a former defense minister and military chief of staff.
Polls show Livni with an advantage in the primary. If she were to replace Olmert, she would become Israel's second female prime minister, after Golda Meir.
If Olmert's successor as party leader can form a coalition, Israel could have a new government in October. If not, an election campaign could take several months. Olmert would remain in office until a new premier is chosen, heading a caretaker government after he submits his resignation to President Shimon Peres.
Olmert pledged to work for peace "as long as I am in my position," and said that talks with Palestinians and Syria are "closer than ever" to achieving understandings.
But the internal turmoil could make it difficult for Olmert to close deals with either the Palestinians or Syria, agreements that have eluded successive Israeli leaders for decades.
Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki said Olmert's decision would change little. "It's true that Olmert was enthusiastic about the peace process, and he spoke about this process with great attention, but this process has not achieved any progress or breakthrough," Malki added. He said the Palestinians would deal with any Israeli government.
Olmert spoke as his delegation to indirect talks with Syria returned from their fourth round in Turkey. The two sides set another round with Turkish mediation for August.
Dan Margalit, an Israeli political analyst and longtime friend of Olmert who recently fell from his favor, called the decision to step down "a sad end to a miserable career."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080730/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_politics

[Snoshi]

Hamas already declared victory.. HZB is next in line.

[Moledet]

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!1111!1!11!!!
I am ready to celebrate with Hamas.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0aOFbRE6wsgqe/340x.jpg
They can throw a party.

[alexz]

She is pretty tough, I like her for the job over Barak but she may pee herself when she has to launch a attack on someone although Golda was a great leader.

She was in a total panic as the foreign minister and as a result Israel could articulate to the world why it even had to go to war. Netayahu was the one who appeared in dozens of interviews explaining Israel's situation.
Golda Mair had a nevous breakdown during Yom Kippur war and was about to committ suicide after the disastrous first days of the war.

[Kaplanr]

Huh!!!

I'm not so sure Livni was in a panic. She's a government minister so whatever she'd say has to be couched diplomatically. Bibi, while an official spokesman had more leeway, plus he's shprekenzies English like an American.

Can you find me something that talks about Golda and a Yom Kippur War breakdown. Rabin's nicotine fit of 1967 is well-known, as is Dayan's illusions of impending doom in 73; but I've not found anything, even tin-foil hat stuff that talks about a Golda breakdown.

[IsraDani]

Can you find me something that talks about Golda and a Yom Kippur War breakdown. Rabin's nicotine fit of 1967 is well-known, as is Dayan's illusions of impending doom in 73; but I've not found anything, even tin-foil hat stuff that talks about a Golda breakdown.

I miss this one too.Mrs Meyerson kept the cold blood also when Dayan started to scream we were all f*cked.

good news btw.I think no one will miss Olmert (Nasrala perhaps).Now we need someone able to deal with the threat coming from iran and its proxies.Barak would be my best bet.

[Mr.Flint]

I miss this one too.Mrs Meyerson kept the cold blood also when Dayan started to scream we were all f*cked.

good news btw.I think no one will miss Olmert (Nasrala perhaps).Now we need someone able to deal with the threat coming from iran and its proxies.Barak would be my best bet.
Are you serious?
Barak the "bomb empty buildings", the "abandon allies and run away"?
Hell no!

[Moledet]

Barak would be my best bet.
He'll be the worse.
Feyglin will be the best but since he's in the Likud he won't be running so I guess it's Nethanyahu.

P.S. I'll be voting for Marzel.

[Snoshi]

He'll be the worse.
Feyglin will be the best but since he's in the Likud he won't be running so I guess it's Nethanyahu.

P.S. I'll be voting for Marzel.

That nut? ??

[RoyB]

So when is he leaving? I can not be quick enough. Who will replace him in that party, Barak? I hope not.
Barak is not in 'Kadima', he is in 'Haavoda'.
Its Livni or Mofaz, probably Livni, but IMO theres nobody really deserve to be the PM, we need some new blood.
I suggest that all of the Israeli members will just vote to 'Ale Yarok' :)

[Calanen]

Olmert was a dhimmi personified. You need someone who has a clue.

[frenchy]

Israelis has the choice between a false peace with arabs with kadima or labor and a nationalist government like likud which risks to isolate Israel in the international.

[NimDod]

Israelis has the choice between a false peace with arabs with kadima or labor and a nationalist government like likud which risks to isolate Israel in the international.

the Likud is far from bring a nationalist party.
under the Likud's rule (under Ariel Sharon) from 2001 to 2006, I think that things were much better on the international relations point of view.

and just to make it clear - I never voted for the Likud or intend to do so in the near future.

[frenchy]

the Likud is far from bring a nationalist party.


That was said on french TV.:|
They were wrong so.

[Kaplanr]

Unless someone can form a government without a coalition, especially a National Unity or middle coalition, it won't matter who the PM is. Center Right or Center Left won't matter if they need to use Shas as their 3rd leg in order to stay up.

IMHO Barak os tainted and hasn't indicated he's learned how to govern since the last time (as opposed to commanding or dictating), Bibi is as corrupt and crooked as Olmert except with better English and more hair. I don't see Mofaz so that leaves Livini (I'm not opposed,) or maybe a sleeper like Yatom (not realisitic though) or Rivlin.

Whatever happened to Dan Meridor, did he just disappear?

[NimDod]

Whatever happened to Dan Meridor, did he just disappear?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Meridor


Meridor is now international chair of the Jerusalem Foundation. He took part in the Winograd Commission that looked at Israel's actions in the 2006 Lebanon War.

Meridor rejoined Likud after leaving the Knesset, though he was hoping to be on Kadima's list for the 2006 elections, having also been made offers by Labour and Yisrael Beiteinu. However, his inclusion was vetoed by Ariel Sharon's sons, Gilad and Omri Sharon,[1] and Meridor remained a Likud member. Current party leader, Netanyahu, is reportedly seeking to add Meridor to the list for the next elections.[2]

[Kaplanr]

What happened to the "good old days" of the fighting family. I generally would have nothing good to say about the Likud or Herut, but I always admired Benny Begin's integrity. The problem is, no one with a lick of sense or integrity is going to throw themselves into running for office. At least not in Israel or the US.

[Moledet]

That nut? ??
It's either him or voting for someone as corrupt as Olmert like Liberman or Nethanyahu.

As I said, I would love to vote for Feyglin but he isn't running.

[Snoshi]

It's either him or voting for someone as corrupt as Olmert like Liberman or Nethanyahu.

As I said, I would love to vote for Feyglin but he isn't running.

Evryone who gets a taste of power will become corrupt.. Even Marzel.. And i cant take him seriously when he talks about waging war on gays.. :roll:

Feyglin is better, but him too is little nutty.. I like hes views on "Arab problem" but hes view of the Israeli state is crap..

If i would vote for a more "right" politician then it would be Lieberman.

[Moledet]

Evryone who gets a taste of power will become corrupt.. Even Marzel.. And i cant take him seriously when he talks about waging war on gays.. :roll:

Feyglin is better, but him too is little nutty.. I like hes views on "Arab problem" but hes view of the Israeli state is crap..

If i would vote for a more "right" politician then it would be Lieberman.
I don't think you know much of his views.
He supports a secular state where everyone are free to do as they wish (and that includes public transportation on Saturday). He doesn't believe in forcing anyone to follow the rules of Judaism. Although, for example he doesn't support gay parades he says that in his opinion they should be held if the local municipality agrees to it.

[Snoshi]

I don't think you know much of his views.
He supports a secular state where everyone are free to do as they wish (and that includes public transportation on Saturday). He doesn't believe in forcing anyone to follow the rules of Judaism. Although, for example he doesn't support gay parades he says that in his opinion they should be held if the local municipality agrees to it.

Hmm.. I can confess that i dont know much about hes "policies" but the "gay" thing made me question hes view on the "secular" Israel. Because those views are often shared by religious fanatics that want to turn Israel into a 2nd Iran.

[SBL]

I was under the impression that Nethanyahu was pretty popular. I guess not.

[Moledet]

Hmm.. I can confess that i dont know much about hes "policies" but the "gay" thing made me question hes view on the "secular" Israel. Because those views are often shared by religious fanatics that want to turn Israel into a 2nd Iran.
Why? If the local municipality doesn't agree to it than why should it be held? Does it make sense to have a parade in Bney Brak?

http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%94_%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%99%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F#.D7.94.D7.A9.D7.A7.D7.A4.D7.95.D7.AA.D7.99.D7.95

P.S. he once said that the day there will be a law to wear a yarmulke he'll take it off.

[Snoshi]

Why? If the local municipality doesn't agree to it than why should it be held? Does it make sense to have a parade in Bney Brak?

http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%94_%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%99%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F#.D7.94.D7.A9.D7.A7.D7.A4.D7.95.D7.AA.D7.99.D7.95

P.S. he once said that the day there will be a law to wear a yarmulke he'll take it off.
I dint exactly mean that people who are opposed to it are "nuts". I meant Marzel's quote where he said that stabbing of gay's was just the beggining.

I was under the impression that Nethanyahu was pretty popular. I guess not.
If General Elections will be held then he will win it.

[BPEL]

Careful guys, you might get what you asked for...

According to Haaretz, the best "man" for the job as Israel's Prime Minister is Nasrallah lol p-)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/756175.html

[Moledet]

Careful guys, you might get what you asked for...

According to Haaretz, the best "man" for the job as Israel's Prime Minister is Nasrallah lol p-)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/756175.html
You didn't read it, did you?
The entire article makes fun of him.

[BPEL]

I did read it, the post I made was just for laughs. But the title on Haaretz was well worth it :).

[BPEL]

A quote...

"Nasrallah would be a new sort of Israeli leader. One who gets things done."

Its cool..I'll stop there :)

[NimDod]

I don't think you know much of his (Liberman's) views.
He supports a secular state where everyone are free to do as they wish (and that includes public transportation on Saturday). He doesn't believe in forcing anyone to follow the rules of Judaism. Although, for example he doesn't support gay parades he says that in his opinion they should be held if the local municipality agrees to it.

and just because of those things, people like me who voted for the Labor Party / Shinuy / Kadima might give him our vote, even though he stands on the other side of the political map.
I belive He really has a chance, specially now when so many ex-"Leftists" (like me) dont belive in the peace proccess anymore.

[alexz]

and just because of those things, people like me who voted for the Labor Party / Shinuy / Kadima might give him our vote, even though he stands on the other side of the political map.
I belive He really has a chance, specially now when so many ex-"Leftists" (like me) dont belive in the peace proccess anymore.

Lieberman brings the Russian mentality that proved to succesful against internal and external enemies. The Russian way of thinking is very mucho but it backs it up with deeds and not empty threats and meangless worlds that Israelis and their politicians are good at.
Israel needs internal revolution (non violent) that will return things to the norm where crminals are affraid of the police and not the other way around.

Israel sadly needs a Putin to save it from a few decades of system collapse brought by a left wing junta.

[Kaplanr]

Want to explain where decades of an elected left wing junta come from? between 1977 and 2007, there were exactly 8 years of Labour government. Two of those were part of the National Unity "Rotatzia".

The form of government has little bearing on the personal ineptitude of its politicians, or on the character traits of "magia li" and "ani lo ahiyeh friar". Giving the police teeth can be done without electing a benevolent or malevolent dictator (father figure.)

[Moledet]

I belive He really has a chance, specially now when so many ex-"Leftists" (like me) dont belive in the peace proccess anymore.
Well, he needs to appeal to a wider public, "Da Liberman" isn't going to get him any vote apart of Russian.
I hope his party will be one of the largest together with Mafdal and Likud.

P.S. when he was the minister of strategic threats he was excellent at threatening but he didn't do much.

[frenchy]

And the pensioners party ? :)

[Moledet]

And the pensioners party ? :)
They are over, they did nothing-didn't even help the pensioners, were fighting amongst themselves and stuck to their chairs although they got nothing from the government.

[NimDod]

And the pensioners party ? :)

I think the pensioners party integrated with Kadima a short while after the last elections.

[frenchy]

They are over, they did nothing-didn't even help the pensioners, were fighting amongst themselves and stuck to their chairs although they got nothing from the government.

Really ?

I thought they were less corrupted than others.:|

[tanks_alot]

Fukc it, each politician is worse than the next one, i'm voting for Alle Yarok again and if all of the morons that voted for the Gimlaim last time would have voted for Alle Yarok too, we would have been smoking freely in the streets by now.

[alexz]

Want to explain where decades of an elected left wing junta come from? between 1977 and 2007, there were exactly 8 years of Labour government. Two of those were part of the National Unity "Rotatzia".

The form of government has little bearing on the personal ineptitude of its politicians, or on the character traits of "magia li" and "ani lo ahiyeh friar". Giving the police teeth can be done without electing a benevolent or malevolent dictator (father figure.)

They bypassed the elected governments by installing a supreme court that can overturn government descions ; since the public can't elect or remove judges which in turn appoint friends with similar far left political views, Israel is not so diffrernt then Iran.
Israeli media is exlusivly far left, performing daily charchter assasination of their opponents
while promoting and protecting criminals as long as they follow the "journalists" agenda.
The shows I've seen on Israeli TV before the disengagment from Gaza would have made
hitler proud and some rvrn openly called to murder settlers live on national TV. Imagine if someone said on French TV, that Jewish settlers should be murdered...
The final component of the Junta is the police which is used as leverage against politicans to do what their told or some bad episodes from their past will surface ans well as keeping oponents away like the 13 year invastigation against Liberman in which no one brought charges but prevented him from being a minister. The investigation was closed when they needed him to be in the Coalition with the sleazy Olmert LTD.

[Kaplanr]

But who is "They"? In a 30 year period I don't think "they" were all appointed in just the 8 years when there was a Labor PM. Given Israel's lack of a constitution I'd say they do a pretty decent job - even if they're activist - of doing what the Americans call judicial review. Especially with the way some of the Knesset's laws get proposed and passed.

As for the "leftist" press, if they weren't reflecting someone's views, nobody would buy them or pay for advertising. No one is stopping the "Right" from starting a serious newspaper.

[alexz]

But who is "They"? In a 30 year period I don't think "they" were all appointed in just the 8 years when there was a Labor PM. Given Israel's lack of a constitution I'd say they do a pretty decent job - even if they're activist - of doing what the Americans call judicial review. Especially with the way some of the Knesset's laws get proposed and passed.

As for the "leftist" press, if they weren't reflecting someone's views, nobody would buy them or pay for advertising. No one is stopping the "Right" from starting a serious newspaper.

Why would,nt they advertise in a media that has no competitors and has a monopoly over the market? I belive the right does have a free paper own by the bilionaire Adelson which is doing well ciruclation wise. I don't argue if tehy are doing a good job or a bad job, just the fact that I hate the idea of people who are not elected and can't be removed controling my life.
Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely

[Mastermind]

Wow! I had no Idea isreal was that fked up with a leftist media and jockey Supreme Court. That really explains a lot about what has been happening in the last ten years. I see the same thing happening here. Is there something going on in the world we are not aware of? Could there be a secret society running things behind the curtain?? If so...who and why and what are their ultimate goals???

[alexz]

Wow! I had no Idea isreal was that fked up with a leftist media and jockey Supreme Court. That really explains a lot about what has been happening in the last ten years. I see the same thing happening here. Is there something going on in the world we are not aware of? Could there be a secret society running things behind the curtain?? If so...who and why and what are their ultimate goals???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvcZiNt6ypI

[RoyB]

Wow! I had no Idea isreal was that fked up with a leftist media and jockey Supreme Court. That really explains a lot about what has been happening in the last ten years. I see the same thing happening here. Is there something going on in the world we are not aware of? Could there be a secret society running things behind the curtain?? If so...who and why and what are their ultimate goals???
I bet its crab people...

[IsraDani]

what about meduzas? I heard they vote meretz.