View Full Version : Palestinian Children Trained At Terrorist Camps
Sayeret
06-05-2004, 02:59 PM
These photos were taken by various media mainstream sources in the summer of 2000 at several Palestinian "summer camps".
After "summer camp" - Arafat shipped his new recruits straight into battle. As of October 25, the Palestinians point out that of the 140 dead on their side, 40 of them are children.
It could be that many out there wonder why so many children are being killed. These pictures tell the true story.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids2a.jpg
A Palestinian kid learning to fire an assault rifle.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids3a.jpg
A young Palestinian boy learning to crawl with a rifle.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids4a.jpg
A Palestinian girl learning how to use an AK-47.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids5a.jpg
A blinfolded Palestinian being trained.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids6a.jpg
Some "drama therapy - Arab style. These kids act out the terrible things that the Jews do to them. Here he is - the terrorist Jew, with Kippa and earlocks, about to shoot in cold blood a poor Arab ...
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids7a.jpg
A great way to be indoctrinated - get them into a crowd, give them black t-shirts with the "Palestinian Map" (one that replaces "Israel") and let them shout out how angry they are ...
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids8a.jpg
A young kid learning how to take apart a rifle with a blinfold on.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids9a.jpg
Same as above but without a blindfold.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids10a.jpg
Palestinian kids being taught to march.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids11a.jpg
Finally - the battle. These children get hands on training in their first battle by the commander. In their hands, M16s Automatic rifles, made by the US and given to the Palestinians by none other than Israel as part of the Olso agreements.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids13a.jpg
Just like they were told in "summer camp" - these children go up to a Jewish town's fence, throwing stones.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids14a.jpg
Home education - the parents teach the children young to hate and despise. Treading on a flag, the latest fashion in showing your hate for the enemy.
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids15a.jpg
A group photo of the "Jihad Kids" of October 2000. It is a good bet that the UN thought it was the friend of Palestine. Better they think again
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids15a.jpg
A group photo of the "Jihad Kids" of October 2000. It is a good bet that the UN thought it was the friend of Palestine. Better they think again
Haha, excellent photo especially since your comment shows your own bias. The UN know that they are no friend of palestine, as I've said many times only israelis and maybe some americans think that they are.
Rilence
06-05-2004, 03:16 PM
hey they are just teching thier children the ways of adulthood :) lol
ShadowNeo
06-05-2004, 03:19 PM
Alot of the pictures seem to be easily twisted, I mean I cannot draw your comment exactly from this image:
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids6a.jpg
Some "drama therapy - Arab style. These kids act out the terrible things that the Jews do to them. Here he is - the terrorist Jew, with Kippa and earlocks, about to shoot in cold blood a poor Arab ...
It is an outright and saddening shame that children are brought up this way - and no one can deny that, but living in a world where all they see is violence, what can you truly expect.
ariweiner
06-05-2004, 03:19 PM
"media mainstream sources"
Give us some of these sources and stop posting misleading trash from gamla.
Sayeret
06-05-2004, 03:23 PM
ariweiner
I feel like I'm doing my part to show the Israeli side of things because you recently have posted a lot stuff from the Palestinian side.
ariweiner
06-05-2004, 03:29 PM
I didnt post stuff from biased sources using photos from God knows where. I used mainstream sources. Give us some independent verification of the claims made in the initial post.
Milkman
06-05-2004, 03:46 PM
I didnt post stuff from biased sources using photos from God knows where. I used mainstream sources. Give us some independent verification of the claims made in the initial post.
How the **** is this biased? These are Palestinian kids being trained by Palestinian "Soldiers." But in your head it is biased because it shows Palestinians being trained to kill Israelies, instead of Palestinians being kicked out of their mudshacks or being shot by Israeli soldiers.
Sayeret
06-05-2004, 03:57 PM
ariweiner do you consider *****images a biased towards the Israelis?
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50926749.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE16FFBE1AA3B1A6F292B16B50A0CAC366
RAFAH REFUGEE CAMP, GAZA STRIP - JUNE 04: Hamas supporters chant anti-Israeli slogans during an anti-Israel rally at the Rafah refugee camp on June 4, 2004 in the Gaza Strip. Thousands of Palestinians attended the rally which held against israeli policy towards the palestinian people.
People dressed up as suicide bombers are also at this rally.
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50926748.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE16FFBE1AA3B1A6F21F6C62EA828B5FCF
RAFAH REFUGEE CAMP, GAZA STRIP - JUNE 4: Masked Palestinian members of Hamas march during an anti-Israel rally at the Rafah refugee camp on June 4, 2004 in the Gaza Strip. Thousands of Palestinians attended the rally which held against israeli policy towards the palestinian people. (Photo by Ahmad Khateib/ ***** Images)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50926669.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE16FFBE1AA3B1A6F211BEFAE5230017B0
RAFAH REFUGEE CAMP, GAZA STRIP - JUNE 04: The shadow of masked Palestinian members of Hamas is seen as they march during an anti-Israel rally at the Rafah refugee camp on June 04, 2004 in the Gaza Strip. Thousands of Palestinians attended the rally which was held against Israeli policy towards the Palestinian people. (Photo by Ahmad Khateib/ ***** Images)
Notice the Palestinian children are wearing things supporting Hamas and its suicide bombers.
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50926647.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE16FFBE1AA3B1A6F2FBB43405DE1AD4A2
RAFAH REFUGEE CAMP, GAZA STRIP - JUNE 04: Masked palestinian members of Hamas hold mock guns as they march during an anti-Israel rally at the Rafah refugee camp on June 04, 2004 in the Gaza Strip.Thousands of Palestinians attended the rally which was held against Israeli policy towards the Palestinian people. (Photo by Ahmad Khateib/ ***** Images)
I think its pretty clear that Hamas is trying to portray suicide bombers as heroes so that why children will want to become one when they are older.
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50926394.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE16FFBE1AA3B1A6F2F84E1687ACAC1E1D
RAFAH REFUGEE CAMP, GAZA STRIP- JUNE 04: Hamas supporters chant anti-Israeli slogans during an anti-Israel rally at the Rafah refugee camp on June 04, 2004 in the Gaza Strip. Thousands of Palestinians attended the rally which held against israeli policy towards the palestinian people. (Photo by Ahmad Khateib/ ***** Images)
Children are in the crowd
In the al-Aqsa intifada, Palestinian terrorists exploit children in the aid of terror, mainly as human shields and bomb-transporters but also as suicide bombers and combatants. Although there were many witnesses and photos documenting uses of children, the issue was not reported by the world media and human rights group until the widely televised incident when the Palestinian teenager Hussam Abdo was disarmed in front of the TV cameras [1] (http://www.intelligence.org.il/sp/4_04/images/rd.wmv). Palestinian supporters ignore claims about incitement and indoctorination of "Shuada" (Martyrdom operattions or just martyrdom in Arabic) and "Jihad" in children by Palestinian Authority and religious clerics in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
Palestinian supporters argue that most of the claims of human shields concern cases of children willingly entering areas where armed conflict is in progress, contrary to the definition of "human shield", and that the pictures that Israelis point out actually back up their claims. They point out that it has been well documented by human rights groups that the IDF uses true human shields (people forced at gunpoint into dangerous areas) when knocking on the doors of houses and other structures containing gunmen as well as when conveying written or verbal messages to such individuals.
This is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bomber
I guess it must be biased though because it talks badly about the Palestinian terrorists. [Sarcasm]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4601244/ this is about Palestinian children suicide bombers.
From the New-York Times...
Palestinian Summer Camp Offers the Games of War
By JOHN F. BURNS
August 3, 2000
NABLUS, West Bank, Aug. 2 -- It is summer camp time for 25,000 Palestinian teenagers, and strikingly unusual camps they are, too. As run by the men who handle psychological warfare for Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, they allow no horsing around in the dorm, no fun-in-the-sun by a cool clear lake, no rousing sing-alongs beside a roaring campfire.
Instead, there is the chance to stage a mock kidnapping of an Israeli leader by masked Palestinian commandos, ending with the Israeli's bodyguards sprawled dead on the ground. Next, there is the mock attack on an Israeli military post, ending with a sentry being grabbed by the neck and fatally stabbed. Finally, there is the opportunity to excel in stripping and reassembling a real Kalashnikov rifle.
In the summer of the latest Camp David talks, a summer that was supposed to produce a final peace settlement between Israel and its Palestinian adversaries, the Palestinians' idea of a teenage boys' camp is a reminder of how deep old enmities run. At 90 two- and three-week camps on the West Bank and in the Gaza Strip, youths from towns and villages already ceded to Israel by Mr. Arafat's Palestinian Authority are learning the arts of kidnapping, ambushing and using assault weapons.
"As President Arafat says, this is the generation that will plant the Palestinian flag on the walls of Jerusalem," said Dr. Wajieh Affouneh, a 49-year-old dental school graduate who joined Mr. Arafat's Fatah organization in a refugee camp. In the 1970's and 80's, he participated, according to other aides, in some of the operations that made the Palestinian cause synonymous with attacks on Israeli and other targets. Dr. Affouneh is now a top man in the "political guidance" department of Mr. Arafat's National Security Forces, the armed police unit permitted under the Oslo accords.
In the camps around this biblical town 35 miles north of Jerusalem, the mood is a throwback to the days before Mr. Arafat joined Israeli leaders in the peacemaking effort that faltered last week at Camp David, mainly over the future of Jerusalem.
Since the current cycle of talks began in Oslo in 1993, both sides have made generous use of the tactics of bluff and threat, and have still made impressive strides toward peace. But the display today in the yard of what was once a notorious Israeli prison seemed more than old-time propaganda, even if there was an element of that. What the youths and their mentors had prepared for a graduation parade on Thursday appeared to a visitor to be steeped more in the Palestinian mind-set of the 1970's than the conciliatory postures of today.
In the mock kidnapping, an Israeli official walked across the old prison yard surrounded by eagle-eyed security men. Suddenly a reporter approached with a tape recorder. The target stopped, only to be grabbed by the reporter, now flourishing an imitation pistol. As the target was dragged off, other mock kidnappers shot seven of the bodyguards dead.
For 1,000 Palestinian youngsters standing in neatly ordered platoons, cheering, the exercise seemed like ripping good stuff.
Afterward, many predicted that their generation would someday take up arms against Israel over Jerusalem. At indoctrination sessions in the camps, the youths have been told that Mr. Arafat, at Camp David, rejected American proposals that would have given the Palestinian Authority a foothold in parts of Jerusalem, demanding instead that Israel surrender the entire eastern half of the city it seized in 1967.
Fikri Fouad, a 15-year-old village boy, said Palestinians had learned during the Oslo peace effort to live with a split view of Israelis -- "as people that we can make peace with, but still our enemies, too." He added: "If we can get Jerusalem without weapons, it is better. But if there is a need to liberate Jerusalem with weapons, we will be ready for that."
Other youths offered opinions that would be grist for the mill of Israeli politicians like Ariel Sharon, the hawkish former general who has accused Prime Minister Ehud Barak of endangering Israel with his acceptance of American proposals on Jerusalem. At a news conference on Tuesday, Mr. Sharon said any Palestinian foothold in the city would encourage Mr. Arafat to press the "real" Palestinian goal of recovering Tel Aviv and Haifa, along with the rest of Israel.
Suleiman Nubaim, 16, said the Camp David talks had given new relevance to what he and his friends had been taught about the exploits of the freedom fighters, or "fedayeen," the name taken by Palestinian guerrillas of the pre-Oslo period. Like many youths, he said he wanted to join the Palestinian forces.
"I want my country to be free," he said. "It's been my dream since I was a small boy."
Asked how he defined Palestinian freedom, he said it included having Jerusalem, and then the rest of Israel. "As long as Israel occupies any part of our land, in Tel Aviv or Jaffa or Haifa," he said, "we have not liberated our homeland."
Although the camps have been run for five years with some weapons training, it is only this summer that they have caused noticeable controversy in Israel. Since Camp David, Lt. Gen. Shaul Mofaz, the Israeli Army chief of staff, has cited the training in the summer camps as evidence of the risks of a new Palestinian upheaval. Israeli officials have said security has been tightened all across the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, especially near the 145 Jewish settlements that have been the cause of much Palestinian ire.
Mr. Affouneh, the Arafat aide who oversees the Nablus camps, said weapons training was only a small part of a wider program that included inculcating the benefits of discipline and physical fitness, and teaching the youths about the history of Palestine before and since 1948, including the armed struggle led by Mr. Arafat. "We joined the Palestinian national movement when we were their age," he said, referring to the men who now lead the Palestinian Authority, "and we are creating a continuum between our generation and theirs."
In any case, he said, weapons used in the camps -- judging by the graduation rehearsal, American-made Smith & Wesson revolvers in addition to the Kalashnikovs -- were "legitimate" under the Oslo accords.
These allowed Mr. Arafat to establish an armed police force but denied him the right to acquire heavy weapons. In practice, even Palestinian officials admit that the Russian mafia, with the foothold it has gained in Israeli life, is smuggling an enormous number of rifles and other small arms into Palestinian-controlled areas.
Dr. Affouneh said Israeli alarm at the weapons training was hypocritical, since Israel was one of the world's most heavily-armed countries. "Israel is a country with nuclear weapons, whereas we have no air force, no tanks, and no arms industry," he said.
"All we have is a small number of rifles. And even today, just a few miles from here, Jewish settlers are being encouraged by the Israeli government to build up their arms stockpiles. Tell me, who are the victims, and who are the victimizers?"
Other officials noted that recent Israeli news reports had identified a hitherto-secret Israeli Army training camp where troops rehearse storming a mock Palestinian village being used as a base for attacks on Israelis. What's good for Israel, the Palestinians seemed to be saying, is good for Palestinians.
Dr. Affouneh drew a closer parallel, saying that a part of the Zionist movement that survived the transition to Israeli statehood was Gdudei Noar, or Gadna, a corps that introduces tens of thousands of Israeli teenagers to army life. In recent years, the organization has shifted from weapons familiarity to sports, physical fitness and camping, but Dr. Affouneh said the Palestinian summer camps were essentially the same.
"We hope that we will achieve our rights through negotiations, so that summer camps like these will cease to exist," he said. "There is nothing we want more than a full and genuine peace, including Jerusalem, which would allow us to end the weapons-training and concentrate instead on teaching our young people about computers, and swimming and other recreations. That has always been our hope."
http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/080300palestinian-camp.html
I think this thread should be locked.
Javehn
06-05-2004, 04:57 PM
"media mainstream sources"
Give us some of these sources and stop posting misleading trash from gamla.
Ahm , the fact that the pictures are othentic is no matter to you ? You know how much time i gave a pictures here from a Hamas site ? That is infact the strangest thing you could say . One thing if it would be text , then it's understandable . But picture is misleading trash ? Bad mistake , arik (Can i call you Arik ? ) , bad ...
That one i recognise ..... Where from , where from ?? Some member (past member) of the forum and this picture .... Hmm , truth .... talking truth ... speaking truth .... saying truth ... Truthsayer ...
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids6a.jpg
Fargin
06-05-2004, 05:33 PM
This thread truely makes me sad in a number of different ways. :(
Thank god I don't live in a ****hole like that.
A couple of days ago there was a picture of a russian boy disassembling an AK while blindfolded. So how is that wrong? Children learning how to use firearms. They are trained all over the world and by democratic countries. Just because they are palestinian it becomes wrong.
SeanAshi
06-05-2004, 09:02 PM
All these suicide/homicide bombers together in one place, excelent target for an air strike.
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50926748.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE16FFBE1AA3B1A6F21F6C62EA828B5FCF
And I don't give a damn if they are kids or teens, their intentions are clear.
palestinian society is literally insane, death is not the answer an asylum is.
The good news for Israelis is any society that believes that the only goal in life is to die then they won't last long.
RavenW
06-06-2004, 12:32 AM
Palestinian Arab society is sick and it will take real guts, leadership and vision from the people of Free World to de-Palestinize it... naturally it won't happen until "Palestinians" will move from one diet to another...
from Jews to Gentiles and that's how evil always worked in this world.
The paper turns orange, can anyone predict outcome?
SeanAshi
06-06-2004, 12:37 AM
I don't usually give sympathy to the Palestinian side but damnit! they are bringing death and destruction to themselves. Barak was going to end the occupation and give the Palestinians most of what they wanted, Arafat walked away! :cantbeli: They will not accomplish their goals through terror.
SpikeATGM
06-06-2004, 05:23 AM
"media mainstream sources"
Give us some of these sources and stop posting misleading trash from gamla.
There is some video clip here pertaining to the topic.
http://www.mideasttruth.com/video.html
and if you still think that their education are that good, perhaps you should send your own children there and see the sort of person they turn out to be.
Javehn
06-06-2004, 05:34 AM
A couple of days ago there was a picture of a russian boy disassembling an AK while blindfolded. So how is that wrong? Children learning how to use firearms. They are trained all over the world and by democratic countries. Just because they are palestinian it becomes wrong.
That is not entirely correct . I don't bellieve there are many democratic places in the world where they have a Shuhada camps , where kids learn to become a shahids . About firearms I agree with you , but not the connotation on those firearms use which they learn in the camps .
There is a difference between a Russian miitary youth camp for example ,and a Palestinian military camp , and that's in menthal teaching there .
Moledet
06-06-2004, 08:06 AM
Alot of the pictures seem to be easily twisted, I mean I cannot draw your comment exactly from this image:
http://gamla.org.il/images/war/kids6a.jpg
Some "drama therapy - Arab style. These kids act out the terrible things that the Jews do to them. Here he is - the terrorist Jew, with Kippa and earlocks, about to shoot in cold blood a poor Arab ...
It is an outright and saddening shame that children are brought up this way - and no one can deny that, but living in a world where all they see is violence, what can you truly expect.
Wanna watch clips?
http://www.israelnn.com/data/asx/2002/06/29/asx_210_broad.asx
http://www.pmw.org.il/new/tv.html
http://server12.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?format=wm&s=72BD589B3EED11D6B9CD000629396D69&ak=47390383
(copy link--->open Media player--->File--->open URL)
http://www.truepeace.org/Audio/Oslo%20Revisited.wmv
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?format=dl&s=E88A267DBF754436A19CE600D7433F55&ci=16581&ClipMediaID=22456
Javehn
06-06-2004, 08:40 AM
"media mainstream sources"
Give us some of these sources and stop posting misleading trash from gamla.
And another thing , arik . For someone that uses material from KavkazCenter and calls it an authentic matterial , i would not be so hasty to talk like that. Agreed ?
Mr Gently Benevolent
06-06-2004, 08:42 AM
Palestinian Arab society is sick and it will take real guts, leadership and vision from the people of Free World to de-Palestinize it... naturally it won't happen until "Palestinians" will move from one diet to another...
from Jews to Gentiles and that's how evil always worked in this world.
The paper turns orange, can anyone predict outcome?
The text I have highlighted in bold can you in anyway elaborate on this as it is just a little too cryptic.
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