Russia: birthrate increased again.

[AlexMartin2]

I decided to create this thread and post this news, because a lot of people in "Russian" threads speaking about "depopulation" and "50 mil of Russians in 2050". And frankly speaking I'm a little tired of it.

http://www.medportal.ru/mednovosti/news/2008/08/04/birth/ (on Russian)

Translation of important facts:


In first half of 2008 birthrate in Russia increased considerably. Also increased number of families having second and third child. This info was presented by Minister of Health and Social Development Tatiana Golikova.

In first 6 months were registered 801 000 of births, its on 7.8 percent more than in first 6 months of 2007.


From another news:


In first 5 months population decreased on 0.08 percent or 119.900.
It is on 46 000 less than in such period of 2007, because of death rate decrease and increased migration.
Because not all people are understand this numbers, I give some as comparison:

In 2005 population decrease was ~720 000.
In 2006 population decrease was 687 100.
In 2007 population decrease was 238 000.
My prognosis:
2008: -150 000.
2009: -50 000.
2010: +50 000.

If these trends will be maintained, probably in 2010 population in Russia start to increase. I thought before that increase would start in 2012, but it can happen a lot early.

[CG51]

Good news. As your economy increases, so will the population.

[Adux]

Good news!!!!!!

[damagejackal]

Hopefully these facts an trends will shut up the Sinophobes...

[The Dane]

Viagra has arrieved in Russia too !
Great news.

[Kak]

Hopefully these facts an trends will shut up the Sinophobes...
I think you mean "Russophobes". p-)

[Ordie]

What can I say....I had a lot of fun while vacationing in Russia.

[The Dane]

What can I say....I had a lot of fun while vacationing in Russia.

Whaha.. Would really wanna make a comment on that but my arse would be fried by the mod's.. :|

[asch]

Whaha.. Would really wanna make a comment on that but my arse would be fried by the mod's.. :|
poor thing

[Adux]

What can I say....I had a lot of fun while vacationing in Russia.

Ah,

So you are the one who is spreading the American seeds of love(invasion through demographic change)woot, I used to go out with a Russian girl before, Can I say, not the one's I would plant my seed and run away, Those women will come at you with Kalshnikov.

[Ordie]

Ah,

So you are the one who is spreading the American seeds of love(invasion through demographic change)woot, I used to go out with a Russian girl before, Can I say, not the one's I would plant my seed and run away, Those women will come at you with Kalshnikov.

Pretty soon they will say, scratch a Russian, and you'll find an Ordie.

[ren0312]

Actually i am curious why the Russian government did not just resort to mass immigration to solve its demographic problems like what Canada and Australia is doing, I mean for its size Russia has a very low population density especially in the Far East.

[The Dane]

poor thing

Don't have too comment on that one.
People on this board can tell the difference between you and me.

[Lokos]

Actually i am curious why the Russian government did not just resort to mass immigration to solve its demographic problems

Most likely because they do not wish to facilitate the total collapse of an already tenuous demographic balance.

Lokos

[Mousepad]

What can I say....I had a lot of fun while vacationing in Russia.

Aha. Now we know who to blame for spreading those capitalist desease like Emo, Indi, "Fat is new fit". USA gonna so burrrrn for this. We gonna stick with Canada :hug:

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m377/mousepad_2008/65810334.jpg

[The Dane]

Cool, is there export sites for Canadian girls like for Russian girls ?
Me like ...

[Adux]

I am happy that Russian is not using migration as method to pump population. It has been a Epic Fail in Europe.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

If these trends will be maintained, probably in 2010 population in Russia start to increase. I thought before that increase would start in 2012, but it can happen a lot early.That is good news. Not to start some sort of flame war, but any stats on the ethnic background of the Russians having children?

I know my Russian friends all laughed/cried at Putin's "cash for kids" program assuming it would be mostly Central Asian immigrants pumping them out at record pace.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I am happy that Russian is not using migration as method to pump population. It has been a Epic Fail in Europe.

Looks like we'll just have to kick all those Indians out then :roll: You've obviously been spending too much time reading the Daily Mail.

[The Dane]

Try and type Russian girls in google.
So sad...

Edit: But beautifull girls..

[Ordie]

The key in improving the numbers is to mitigate the preventable death rate.

Asking Russians to wear seat belts, stop smoking, stop drinking and hold on eating heavy foods. In essence....stop being Russians.

[Mousepad]

Actually i am curious why the Russian government did not just resort to mass immigration to solve its demographic problems like what Canada and Australia is doing, I mean for its size Russia has a very low population density especially in the Far East.

Immigrants are not much for Easting, they tend to stay by all means in already overcrouded Moscow, also Govt is afraid of Europe scenario, so they encourage Russians to go, or stay in Siberian region without much sucsess for now, but slowly thingies are moving. Now govt pumping money in central siberian citys like Novosibirsk, Tomsk, Krasnoyarsk, Khabarovsk, Vladivostok etc just for people to stay there - infrastructure, kindergardens, schools, jobs etc it's not a smooth run - corruption, bureaucracy etc, but the huge number of Moscow inspections from all branches, scares the sh/t out of even fattestarsed functionaries here, so as i said before thingies are mothing

[kosse]

Try and type Russian girls in google.
So sad...

Why is it so sad? Looks pretty good to me..the more women available the better, isn't it? Makes it possible for us non-Bratt Pitts to avoid fat native monsterwomen if we want to. If not use for anything else at least you can use it as a leverage against your wife: "start losing weight or I'll swap for a Russian mail order wife for sure" :lol:

[Breakfast in Vegas]

The key in improving the numbers is to mitigate the preventable death rate.

Asking Russians to wear seat belts, stop smoking, stop drinking and hold on eating heavy foods. In essence....stop being Russians.Believe it or not, they DO wear seatbelts now. It's the law and is enforced.

Now smoking and drinking and eating gigantic plates of meat, well... some habits die hard.

[Mousepad]

Try and type Russian girls in google.
So sad...

Edit: But beautifull girls..

well i typed and clickd 1-st non ****o

http://www.anastasia-international.com/

click on any and tadaaaa Kiev, Nikolaev, Odessa = Ukraine, only one on front page was really russian - http://www.anastasia-international.com/profile-hot-Russian-girl-photo-Albina-1112502.htm and bang!!! I now her, she is from my school, She had a really huge MoFo of a husband, so now i know she is single I'm gonna soooo roll my balls in her direction ASAP, thanx Danskeren woot

[The Dane]

Why is it so sad? Looks pretty good to me..the more women available the better, isn't it? Makes it possible for us non-Bratt Pitts to avoid fat native monsterwomen if we want to. If not use for anything else at least you can use it as a leverage against your wife: "start losing weight or I'll swap for a Russian mail order wife for sure" :lol:

---------------------- :bash:

I fell bad for those girls, really .

[Adux]

Cool, is there export sites for Canadian girls like for Russian girls ?
Me like ...

Cobie Smulders for me:)


http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070305/friends/robin_l.jpg

[Snoshi]

Like Ordie said.. Russia needs to root out its alcoholic "addiction".. Its just ridiculous that Russian men live up to average 61 years of age.

[Ordie]

Like Ordie said.. Russia needs to root out its alcoholic "addiction".. Its just ridiculous that Russian men live up to average 61 years of age.

Blame Ivan the Terrible who created a state vodka monopoly and banned beer in all places.

[kosse]

Blame Ivan the Terrible who created a state vodka monopoly and banned beer in all places.
These bans never seem to work. Finns learnt to drink strong alcohol like sponges too during state imposed alcohol ban. Even after that beer was thought to be more harmful than vodka :roll:

[Snoshi]

Blame Ivan the Terrible who created a state vodka monopoly and banned beer in all places.

Well.. Medvedev is stuck between a rock and a hard place on this issue.. Raising prices or lowering the amount of vodka will both backfire while not doing anything will just worsen the problem. The school system just needs to educate the new generations of dangerous of alcohol.. But as long as Russian men will make toasts "for health" then nothing will change.

[Adux]

If we can educate our kids about the danger of smoking, we can even tell them about over-drinking!!!!

[kosse]

Well.. Medvedev is stuck between a rock and a hard place on this issue.. Raising prices or lowering the amount of vodka will both backfire while not doing anything will just worsen the problem. The school system just needs to educate the new generations of dangerous of alcohol.. But as long as Russian men will make toasts "for health" then nothing will change.

I think the best way is to favour mild alcoholic beverages like beer in taxation and impose heavier taxes on strong alcohol.

Btw. There's nothing wrong with making toasts for health. It's not harmful. Drinking full bottle of vodka every other day is.

[Snoshi]

I think the best way is to favour mild alcoholic beverages like beer in taxation.

Btw. There's nothing wrong with making toasts for health. It's not harmful. Drinking full bottle of vodka every other day is.

Drinking alcohol for "health" is an oxymoron.. Because people rarely stop at one toast.

[Afro-European]

Good news for Russians as they are busy like rabbits.Keep breeding :):).

[kosse]

Drinking alcohol for "health" is an oxymoron.. Because people rarely stop at one toast.
Geez. Of course it isn't healthy to drink humongous amounts. Russians know it too - they are not retarded. And if they drink more it's propably because they want to, not because they think it's healthy :roll:

As a sidenote, it's normal around here to drink for "health" too but it's just a saying. It really doesn't mean much these days..basicly same as saying "cheers".

[Snoshi]

Geez. Of course it isn't healthy to drink humongous amounts. Russians know it too - they are not retarded. And if they drink more it's propably because they want to, not because they think it's healthy :roll:

I dont argue against that. But it still does not change the fact that alcohol is killing off Russian population. And instead of trying to make people f*ck like rabbits Russian government should lower the death toll of Russian men.

[kosse]

I dont argue against that. But it still does not change the fact that alcohol is killing of Russia population. And instead of trying to make people f*ck like rabbits Russian government should lower the death toll of Russian men.
Well, they've had time to procreate before that age of 61 so it doesn't matter much if they die at that point for any of the possible xyz reasons. Besides, they are bordering pension age so not so many work years left. In any case, at least the government isn't burdened by pensions this way p-)

[Snoshi]

Well, they've had time to procreate before that age of 61 so it doesn't matter much if they die at that point for any of the possible xyz reasons. At least the government isn't burdened by pensions this way p-)

I disagree.. The question lies in what families usually get many children. Many Russians especially young ones are more westernised and their birthrates are quite low.. Instead you have these families with alcoholics who breed like crazy to get the benefits of having a child.

[Mousepad]

Vodka alcoholism is dying off with it's generation nowadays, it's a rare sight today to see guys from 16 to35 years with vodka, only on ocasions like birthday or V-day, new alco trend is beer, in summer time you'll see teenagers with beer bottles practically everywhere in eveneng TV commercials you will be swarmed by "happy teenagers", or "tough guys" cracking a beer at sunset, or on the beach. So beer is a new alco mass killer, and a problem, duma is trying to stomp on it, but they have serious lobby, so methinks this laws will be enforced by Govt. As for smoking well those churches and "Aleksii the 2nd" - Maybachs ain't built on "babushkas copecs" Chirch had (?have now dunno?) right on untaxed import of cigarettes, gangsters in 90-s were building churches not from pureness of their hearts, but as payoff for operating under chirch license, so if hell realy exists those bearded guys gona burn good and proper. and for seat belts fine for it jumped from 2$ to 20$ so even in shaded black SUVs nowadays guys are belted not only with golden chains anymore.

[kosse]

I disagree.. The question lies in what families usually get many children. Many Russians especially young ones are more westernised and their birthrates are quite low.. Instead you have these families with alcoholics who breed like crazy to get the benefits of having a child.

It's nothing new that less educated, working class people have more kids than those who are career oriented and educated. It's propably same in all western countries..and the working class often abuses alcohol more often. These are things that tend to fix themselves to some extent if even the lowest segment of society can afford decent living and educational possibilities. Other than that there's really not that much that can be done. Stupid people have always made more kids and world hasn't ended so far p-)

[Mousepad]

I disagree.. The question lies in what families usually get many children. Many Russians especially young ones are more westernised and their birthrates are quite low.. Instead you have these families with alcoholics who breed like crazy to get the benefits of having a child.

Dats true, but not 100% you can't cash "parentage grant" you can spend it only on kindergarden, school, and baby healthcare payments via bank. BTW i want to ask guys from Poland, is it true that after War govt was giving loans to young families for buyng house, and with birth of 3rd child you covered your credit?

[The Dane]

We have serveral "imported" russian girls and women in my local area.
Will not speak out what they have told but it's not fun stuff....

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Dats true, but not 100% you can't cash "parentage grant" you can spend it only on kindergarden, school, and baby healthcare payments via bank. I understood you can also use it for housing loans etc., as some sort of down payment??

[Mousepad]

I understood you can also use it for housing loans etc., as some sort of down payment??

Yes, by mother.

[Sergei]

Don't have too comment on that one.
People on this board can tell the difference between you and me.

Right you are.
You are talking smack most of the time, so its hard to take anything you say seriously.

[Sergei]

Try and type Russian girls in google.
So sad...

Edit: But beautifull girls..

Oh poor ***-starved thing.
Why is it whenever you fail in an argument it comes down to "Russian mail order brides"?
every country has its share of cheap prostitutes, and some will feck just for the love for arts, in Russia included.
There is no need to show your arrogance here.

[Sergei]

Like Ordie said.. Russia needs to root out its alcoholic "addiction".. Its just ridiculous that Russian men live up to average 61 years of age.

This is so nice of you to worry about Russian population especially with the govnomet of yours always turned on.
I would be screwing more at home if I were you, because the Arabs will outnumber Israelis in Israel by 2050, because of the hunks like you who spend time on internet instead of banging Israeli chickas.

[Mousepad]

Oh poor ***-starved thing.
Why is it whenever you fail in an argument it comes down to "Russian mail order brides"?
every country has its share of cheap prostitutes, and some will feck just for the love for arts, in Russia included.
There is no need to show your arrogance here.

Hehe, no one mailing Danish for some reason, i wonder why...

http://www.rosebrides.com/brides/danish/ bwahahaha

[Snoshi]

This is so nice of you to worry about Russian population especially with the govnomet of yours always turned on.
I would be screwing more at home if I were you, because the Arabs will outnumber Israelis in Israel by 2050, because of the hunks like you who spend time on internet instead of banging Israeli chickas.

I was born in Russia and i still have relatives there.. Whats your connection to it?

[Mousepad]

Pretty soon they will say, scratch a Russian, and you'll find an Ordie.

Heh, typical sailor boasting to compare himself with Chin Ghez Khan legacy, and i bet You used "GI trojan barrel gadgets for blank firing", so no methinks our genepool is free from US Navy invasion :)

[TheArmenian]

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[Frutzel]

Viagra has arrieved in Russia too !
Great news.

Whaha.. Would really wanna make a comment on that but my arse would be fried by the mod's.. :|

Don't have too comment on that one.
People on this board can tell the difference between you and me.

Cool, is there export sites for Canadian girls like for Russian girls ?
Me like ...

Try and type Russian girls in google.
So sad...

Edit: But beautifull girls..

We have serveral "imported" russian girls and women in my local area.
Will not speak out what they have told but it's not fun stuff....


Great contribution from the baldy.....as usual!

@topic

Great to see this development. A friend of mine told me the same thing about the decline of vodka like Mousepad.

[TheArmenian]

Drinking alcohol for "health" is an oxymoron.. .

And what is drinking alcohol for "life" ?

Lakhayim:)

[TheArmenian]

Vodka alcoholism is dying off with it's generation nowadays, it's a rare sight today to see guys from 16 to35 years with vodka, only on ocasions like birthday or V-day, new alco trend is beer, in summer time you'll see teenagers with beer bottles practically everywhere in eveneng TV commercials you will be swarmed by "happy teenagers", or "tough guys" cracking a beer at sunset, or on the beach. So beer is a new alco mass killer,

Yes, on my trip to Moscow earlier this year, I hardly saw anybody drinking vodka. It was mostly beer and also wine. I was surprised, things have changed since I was there last time many years ago.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Yes, on my trip to Moscow earlier this year, I hardly saw anybody drinking vodka. It was mostly beer and also wine. I was surprised, things have changed since I was there last time many years ago.Vodka is alive and well, but anybody with "a life"/job doesn't drink much in the week as 0,0 promille behind the wheel is strictly enforced. Solving the problem directly with the traffic police is no longer a question of 500 rubles on the spot but more like $1500 with the judge so I'm told, so people are more cautious. Usually.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Heh, typical sailor boasting to compare himself with Chin Ghez Khan legacy, and i bet You used "GI trojan barrel gadgets for blank firing", so no methinks our genepool is free from US Navy invasion :)Like a good soldier I tried to spread my genepool all over Russia but regrettably I must be doing something wrong...

Am getting lots of hits, but my genepool never seems to penetrate their faces. Aim lower perhaps? Time to head back to the range.

By the way, I like what Genghis and the Golden Horde did to the genepool. Quality work, seriously.

[Snoshi]

And what is drinking alcohol for "life" ?

Lakhayim:)

I dont drink, so i dont know :)

[kosse]

I dont drink, so i dont know :)

Hah, should have guessed..you should get some perspective to the matter before lecturing Russian men and trying to find solutions to a problem you don't understand.

Cheers p-)

[Snoshi]

You should get some perspective to the matter before lecturing Russian men and trying to find solutions to a problem you don't understand.

Cheers p-)
Sometimes you can see things much clearer from outside. And that is true about alcohol.

[Mousepad]

Vodka is alive and well, but anybody with "a life"/job doesn't drink much in the week as 0,0 promille behind the wheel is strictly enforced. Solving the problem directly with the traffic police is no longer a question of 500 rubles on the spot but more like $1500 with the judge so I'm told, so people are more cautious. Usually.

0,3 promille, but with everything else - agree (Vodka is immortal)

Btw MVD lobbying that from next year punishment for just drunk driving will be 4 years prison and 7 years in case of incident, in general I agree, but i know Who will enforce it, and is scares the sh/t out of me

[Breakfast in Vegas]

0,3 promille, but with everything else - agree (Vodka is immortal)

Btw MVD lobbying that from next year punishment for just drunk driving will be 4 years prison and 7 years in case of incident, in general I agree, but i know Who will enforce it, and is scares the sh/t out of me0,3? really? My Russian colleagues all say 0,0. Maybe they are paranoid.

Edit: You're right.
Law just changed a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/06/23/Russia_to_allow_some_drinking_and_driving/UPI-54391214229830/

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Btw MVD lobbying that from next year punishment for just drunk driving will be 4 years prison and 7 years in case of incident, in general I agree, but i know Who will enforce it, and is scares the sh/t out of meYou're right again... that is a real opportunity to put the squeeze on someone.

Too much power in the wrong hands at times. About a month ago a friend of mine got an $800 fine for driving the wrong way on a virtually unmarked 150m stretch of sideroad at the Pulkovo airport that connects two parking lots. Definite setup, the police were sitting there in ambush. It was the 4th violation of that type that day by unsuspecting drivers he later learned. Cash machine. He took it to court, no chance.

But in good news back to this topic, his wife is pregnant. )))

[Mousepad]

Like a good soldier I tried to spread my genepool all over Russia but regrettably I must be doing something wrong...

Am getting lots of hits, but my genepool never seems to penetrate their faces. Aim lower perhaps? Time to head back to the range.

By the way, I like what Genghis and the Golden Horde did to the genepool. Quality work, seriously.

On serious note Mongols were not in rape business, mostly extortion - "10% and GTFO", awesome russian babeage of present times sadly related to Hitler, here an article, not sciense, but thery right http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=15786&IBLOCK_ID=35&phrase_id=11951 also russians have a genetic traces of a place they're living West - polish, scandinavic, germanic; East - asian; South - turkish, greek, armenian, jewish... It's hard to define what is Russian, for myself i'm 25%German25%Ukranian25%Tuvin25%Jew=Russian, so in gene term being a vast monolith continental Empire - rocks.

[kosse]

Sometimes you can see things much clearer from outside. And that is true about alcohol.

Forgive me thou beacon of righteousness. I, the seed of the devil, can't possibly think clearly due to evil mind-controlling, intoxicating effects of alcohol that apparently affect me and all other occasional alcohol abusers 24/7.

[Snoshi]

Forgive me thou beacon of righteousness. I, the seed of the devil, can't possibly think clearly due to terrible intoxicating effects of alcohol that apparently affect me and all other occasional alcohol abusers 24/7.

:)

What i am saying is that you dont need to drink alcohol to understand what its all about.

[Mousepad]

Too much power in the wrong hands at times. About a month ago a friend of mine got an $800 fine for driving the wrong way on a virtually unmarked 150m stretch of sideroad at the Pulkovo airport that connects two parking lots. Definite setup, the police were sitting there in ambush. It was the 4th violation of that type that day by unsuspecting drivers he later learned. Cash machine. He took it to court, no chance.


Problem is not the corrupt cops, problem is - blissful ignorance of they rights by most people in here, so it gives a juicy opportunity for some people to get some cash, and there is always someone who watches the watchers, every region have phone center of internal investigation, and if you think that you right, call them on the spot, there is a crusade to fight at least petty corruption. And if you think that usual GAIshnik is scary, those guys are Gestapo-scary :fork: rofl

[Snoshi]

Reminds me of a Russian joke

Three prizes were awarded for the successes in Socialist competition of militsia dept. #18. The third prize is the Complete Works of Vladimir Lenin. The second prize is 100 roubles and a ticket to Sochi... The first prize is a portable stop sign.

[Mousepad]

Reminds me of a Russian joke

"Due to the birth of 4-th child and because of this - critical financial situation, sergeant Ivanov is issued with portable "40 km/h" sign on period of 1 month"

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Problem is not the corrupt cops, problem is - blissful ignorance of they rights by most people in here, so it gives a juicy opportunity for some people to get some cash, and there is always someone who watches the watchers, every region have phone center of internal investigation, and if you think that you right, call them on the spot, there is a crusade to fight at least petty corruption. And if you think that usual GAIshnik is scary, those guys are Gestapo-scary :fork: roflOr fear of dealing with people "bigger" than you.

As a frequent visitor to Russia I'm often amazed at how much sh!t people take on an everyday basis without complaint... from the militia hassles to the SUV drivers who wouldn't stop at a pedestrian crossing for their own grandmother, to the lady at the post office who does her nails while the line in front of her booth stands in silent obedient fury... seems like you can't accomplish anything without yelling at somebody.

It's not my place to try to change anything and I certainly pray that Russia never becomes a PC cesspool of litigation like the US or a hyper-regulated self-serving welfare buffet like much of Europe, but I do expect the "average guy" in Russia to someday realize it's not 1996 anymore and he doesn't have to let himself be pushed around by everybody who thinks they are "big boss". A little social respect for one another would be nice.

[CHERK]

That is good news. Not to start some sort of flame war, but any stats on the ethnic background of the Russians having children?

I know my Russian friends all laughed/cried at Putin's "cash for kids" program assuming it would be mostly Central Asian immigrants pumping them out at record pace.

It does work amongst ethnic Russians, not only in regards to births, but also many more people are adopting children.


Concerning the food – healthier/more natural than in the West.

Drinking habits changed dramatically since the 90’s, certainly less vodka consumption.

[Eztyga]

Viagra has arrieved in Russia too !
Great news.

Nah, the vodka has worn off...

Ezy

[TheArmenian]

:)

What i am saying is that you dont need to drink alcohol to understand what its all about.

As a matter of fact, you do need to drink alcohol to understand what it is all about.

Give it a try :)

[Mousepad]

Or fear of dealing with people "bigger" than you.

As a frequent visitor to Russia I'm often amazed at how much sh!t people take on an everyday basis without complaint... from the militia hassles to the SUV drivers who wouldn't stop at a pedestrian crossing for their own grandmother, to the lady at the post office who does her nails while the line in front of her booth stands in silent obedient fury... seems like you can't accomplish anything without yelling at somebody.

It's not my place to try to change anything and I certainly pray that Russia never becomes a PC cesspool of litigation like the US or a hyper-regulated self-serving welfare buffet like much of Europe, but I do expect the "average guy" in Russia to someday realize it's not 1996 anymore and he doesn't have to let himself be pushed around by everybody who thinks they are "big boss". A little social respect for one another would be nice.

Yes i agree but you can't kill "Sovok" in people in just 18 years, step by step little by little, is always a best way, over SU-style with 7-feet straight steps.

And you forgetting a juicy part, it's still a land of oportunities and awesome babes, so get money and get laid, never been in USA, but Europe in comparison is sooo boring, well, not Portugal, but only because of girls.

there was Bruno Bozzetto cartoon Europe vs Italy just replace Italy with Russia and you got the full picture http://www.infonegocio.com/xeron/bruno/italy.html

[Breakfast in Vegas]

And you forgetting a juicy part, it's still a land of oportunities and awesome babes, so get money and get laidI figured that out years ago and have been going there ever since... )

Cool cartoon BTW...

I find one of the most amazing social skills is the babushka's ability to creep her way forward in line millimeter by millimeter with her fat-padded body and Soviet scowl. She can be 5 places behind you... reach in your pocket to pull out your phone and she's somehow maneuvered herself in front of you in less than a minute... respect.

[Arbody]

but Europe in comparison is sooo boring



he he you noticed that to?

[Mousepad]

he he you noticed that to?

On a second pass, first time i stuck in Amsterdam so it was kinda ok, but i was 6 years younger then, and spent only 2 days in sodomy, then i met a girl and we spent a week together, without going out much :roll:

[Arbody]

yep Amsterdam is ok p-) , imagine Belgium :roll:

[Mousepad]

I figured that out years ago and have been going there ever since... )

Cool cartoon BTW...

I find one of the most amazing social skills is the babushka's ability to creep her way forward in line millimeter by millimeter with her fat-padded body and Soviet scowl. She can be 5 places behind you... reach in your pocket to pull out your phone and she's somehow maneuvered herself in front of you in less than a minute... respect.

You've been babushked by Creeping Death, maybe she was in some UberDelta force recon in War times, so she just thought she stealing new Enigma and ze Secret Documents, be grateful she did't slit your throat :)

[Mousepad]

yep Amsterdam is ok p-) , imagine Belgium :roll:

Im' thinking of "Market Garden" but i think it's gona be "Operation Bagration" cos I have to be in Warsaw next spring

[Arbody]

Warsaw is ok it is not like rotting imperialist's capitols of western Europe or emm Moscow p-)

[AlexMartin2]

Actually i am curious why the Russian government did not just resort to mass immigration to solve its demographic problems like what Canada and Australia is doing, I mean for its size Russia has a very low population density especially in the Far East.

Lets say, that there are already 10-20 millions of illegal imigrants from Central Asia. They havnt good education, poorly speak Russian language. They cant afford to buy a home, cant have a good job. Allowing them to stay is to enforcing poverty and crime. I belive that current immigration policy is good.


That is good news. Not to start some sort of flame war, but any stats on the ethnic background of the Russians having children?

Well, non Russian etnicity always had bigger birthrate that Russians. But today Russian families have more children and balance is fairly good.


Try and type Russian girls in google.
So sad...
Edit: But beautifull girls..

I dont think mail bribes are exist today in Russia. In 90x - yes. But today it's much easier to have rich husband in Russia, than to go somewhere else.
All such sites are outdated :)


Like Ordie said.. Russia needs to root out its alcoholic "addiction".. Its just ridiculous that Russian men live up to average 61 years of age.

There is no alcoholic addiction. It is stupid "western press" cliche. In Russia even in 90x alcoholic consumption wasn't much than in Europe.
Today I dont even remember when I saw people drunk on the streets.



The key in improving the numbers is to mitigate the preventable death rate.
Asking Russians to wear seat belts, stop smoking, stop drinking and hold on eating heavy foods. In essence....stop being Russians.

Smoking is a real killer. Unfortunately I dont see that goverment encourages people to stop smoking. To bad :(

BTW, you must understand that so low average age is a mix of several factors. Its smoking, poor health support by oneself, 90x stress and so on.
Just "drinking" had nothing to do with it.

[Sergei]

I was born in Russia and i still have relatives there.. Whats your connection to it?

Then tell your relatives to smack you with something in the forehead.
Is it a coincidence but I haven't heard so much dirt about former country of origin by anybody (this forum included) except the russian "runaway jews". Your last name is Nevzlin or Berezovsky, right? ;)

[Snoshi]

Then tell your relatives to smack you with something in the forehead.
Is it a coincidence but I haven't heard so much dirt about former country of origin by anybody (this forum included) except the russian "runaway jews". Your last name is Nevzlin or Berezovsky, right? ;)

Hmm Like who for example?

[Mousepad]

Then tell your relatives to smack you with something in the forehead.
Is it a coincidence but I haven't heard so much dirt about former country of origin by anybody

"Suvorov" - writer, it took a lot of Real historians to down his BS fairytales

And Russian history is not white and cudly, so I understand Russofobia from Poland, Finland, Hungary and list continues. What amuses me more is normal attitude from Germany and US, maybe coz they're big guys and not in business of cheap insults.