UK faces threat from British Muslims

[Calanen]

'UK faces threat from British Muslims returning from Afghan'

3 Aug, 2008, 1538 hrs IST, PTI

LONDON: The UK faces serious security threat from British Muslim extremists returning from Afghanistan after fighting alongside Taliban, a top British commander has said.

"There is a link between Kandahar and urban conurbations in the UK," said Brig. Ed Butler, who spent six months commanding British forces in Afghanistan.

"There are British passport holders, who live in the UK, being found in places like Kandahar," Brig Butler was quoted as saying by a daily newspaper.

The British commander said he had seen evidence that terror groups based in southern Afghanistan were plotting with Muslim extremists in Britain to carry out attacks in the UK.

He suggested the traffic between Britain and Afghanistan may flow in both directions, with some British Muslims returning from the region and posing a domestic security threat. British Muslims are part of the Taliban militia fighting against UK security forces in Afghanistan, the top British commander said.

According to the report, a Whitehall source confirmed that the UK security services are aware of some radicalized British Muslims returning to the UK from Afghanistan.

"There are very small numbers of British citizens traveling out there, being trained up and then returning to the UK," the source said.

Western intelligence agencies have expressed concerns that Afghanistan and its lawless border with Pakistan are housing camps used by Jihadi groups to train radicals from the Western countries.

Earlier this year, Nigel Inkster, a former deputy head of MI6, warned that Taliban groups over the border in Pakistan have "dispatched terrorists to a number of locations including Spain and the United Kingdom," the report said.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/PoliticsNation/UK_faces_threat_from_Muslim_ultras/articleshow/3321218.cms

[If they dont know definitively how many there are, how can they say its a very small number?]

[a_very_ex_STAB]

This is a rehash of very old 'news'

It's the summer holiday slow season in the meeja.

[big_les]

The part you, o resident panic merchant, need to pay attention to is this;


very small numbers

[-Church-]

[If they dont know definitively how many there are, how can they say its a very small number?]

Good point, if they dont know how many there are then they must be a lot of them. So much for european integration right ?

Yuropistan. Right ?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Oh noes the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!1111

Yuropistan, Eurabia the barbarians are at the gates oh noes:roll:


Should I add any more hysterical neocon w@nk words?

[muck]

very small numbers

7/7 was carried out by a small group as well. In consideration of that and the fact that many British muslims have shown sympathy for antidemocratic and violent ambitions, too, I'd say this report is enough to raise concerns.

[Holycrusader]

Oh noes the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!1111

Yuropistan, Eurabia the barbarians are at the gates oh noes:roll:

Do not worry Britain, polish plumbers will protect you from barbarians.

They are start to protect France too...

http://neweconomist.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/20050907_polish_plumber.jpeg

[a_very_ex_STAB]

7/7 was carried out by a small group as well. In consideration of that and the fact that many British muslims have shown sympathy for antidemocratic and violent ambitions, too, I'd say this report is enough to raise concerns.

I would say that despite all the BS, the FACT that only one successful attack has been carried out since the current round of anti terror legislation was enacted in the UK in 2000 is a good indication that the UK Gov is on top of the problem. But thank you for your concern.:roll:

[martinexsquaddie]

we've had terrorist bombs before and no doubt will have after Muslims get tired its not the end of the world.

[-Church-]

Oh noes the sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!1111

Yuropistan, Eurabia the barbarians are at the gates oh noes:roll:


Should I add any more hysterical neocon w@nk words?

Its just a matter of time bro, we're dead meat. We should start learning farsi right now. Save up some time.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Its just a matter of time bro, we're dead meat. We should start learning farsi right now. Save up some time.

Well you surrender if you want to. I'm going to have a nice cup of tea.

[martinexsquaddie]

eeing this reaction in continental Europe the Americans have gone from "Isolationism" to "Find another oil-rich nation for regime change". Their remaining higher alert states are "Attack random countries (ideally those without any credible military)" and "Beg the British for help".

The British are also feeling the pinch in relation to recent bombings and have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved". Soon though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross". Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the Blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "Bloody Nuisance". The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was during the Great Fire of 1666.:)

[muck]

I would say that despite all the BS, the FACT that only one successful attack has been carried out since the current round of anti terror legislation was enacted in the UK in 2000 is a good indication that the UK Gov is on top of the problem. But thank you for your concern.:roll:
I'm not meaning to sacrifice freedom on the altar of security. However, even one successful attack and four foiled attempts is too much. Most countries have enough security issues, they do not need another one that could strike everywhere and anytime.

[CMNot]

I'm as interested in buying their fear as much as I am in buying the Avenue Transaction product they are also flogging.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I'm not meaning to sacrifice freedom on the altar of security. However, even one successful attack and four foiled attempts is too much. Most countries have enough security issues, they do not need another one that could strike everywhere and anytime.

Well the septics keep saying it's a 'War' on 'Terror' don't they? It's a bit naive to think that a 'War' is going to be casualty free isn't it? You can't make an omelette without a few eggs getting broken and all that.

[muck]

Well the septics keep saying it's a 'War' on 'Terror' don't they? It's a bit naive to think that a 'War' is going to be casualty free isn't it? You can't make an omelette without a few eggs getting broken and all that.
I don't get your point. To not fight this war would still mean casualties too. Additionally, this is a utterly zynic way of depicting the issue.

[martinexsquaddie]

potential terrorist threats in the uk
Muslims
the Irish can't be bothered to name the various small bands of nutters left
Arabs bombing jews/israelis as distinct from Muslims killing everybody:(
the kurds
tamils
the far right
animal liberation types
the russian spooks
chechens
balkan types
assorted nutters including anti abortionists sikhs/hindu/ extremists welsh scottish nationlists
plus the feared CORNISH SEPRATISTS YOU CAN HAVE OUR PASTIES BUT YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM:(
sorry if I left yor fav band of violent nutters out
so no I don't think opening camps dressing in black and bar coding everybody is the reasonable way to go :(

[Holycrusader]

potential terrorist threats in the uk
Muslims
the Irish can't be bothered to name the various small bands of nutters left
Arabs bombing jews/israelis as distinct from Muslims killing everybody:(
the kurds
tamils
the far right
animal liberation types
the russian spooks
chechens
balkan types
assorted nutters including anti abortionists sikhs/hindu/ extremists welsh scottish nationlists
plus the feared CORNISH SEPRATISTS YOU CAN HAVE OUR PASTIES BUT YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM:(
sorry if I left yor fav band of violent nutters out
so no I don't think opening camps dressing in black and bar coding everybody is the reasonable way to go :(


Thank you for your contribution in this thread (no sarcasm here)
I LOLed

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I don't get your point. To not fight this war would still mean casualties too. Additionally, this is a utterly zynic way of depicting the issue.

I don't understand your point in your first post which I took to mean that this is something we need to be particularly worried about. There are far bigger issues to be concerned about IMO - global warming for one, the economy, whether I am going to get to sh@g the blonde with large breasts in accounts next week etc etc.

Am I cynical as you say - the answer is yes. But at least if you are cynical you can only ever be pleasantly surprised.

[oldsoak]

I don't understand your point in your first post which I took to mean that this is something we need to be particularly worried about. There are far bigger issues to be concerned about IMO - global warming for one, the economy, whether I am going to get to sh@g the blonde with large breasts in accounts next week etc etc.

Am I cynical as you say - the answer is yes. But at least if you are cynical you can only ever be pleasantly surprised.

Global warming - saves me shelling out for a flight ( HA! ) to Spain
The economy - if you dont know its sh*te by now, you've no chance
The bird in accounts ? - you couldnt pull the top on a pint of milk, so no chance !

[CMNot]

The bird in accounts ? - you couldnt pull the top on a pint of milk, so no chance !

Them be fighting words p-)

[BugHunt]

potential terrorist threats in the uk
Muslims
the Irish can't be bothered to name the various small bands of nutters left
Arabs bombing jews/israelis as distinct from Muslims killing everybody:(
the kurds
tamils
the far right
animal liberation types
the russian spooks
chechens
balkan types
assorted nutters including anti abortionists sikhs/hindu/ extremists welsh scottish nationlists
plus the feared CORNISH SEPRATISTS YOU CAN HAVE OUR PASTIES BUT YOU WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM:(
sorry if I left yor fav band of violent nutters out
so no I don't think opening camps dressing in black and bar coding everybody is the reasonable way to go :(

You forgot the Scottish nationalists

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/braveheart.jpg


Any1 catch Bob Bears Ch4 series on the carbomb? The history off and how cheap and effective they are?

Fuk me i knew the IRA liked to set them off but the numbers were pretty staggering i believe he said there was 1,300 carbombs set off in ONE year! Those numbers would make even a Iraqi nutter group blink....

[CMNot]

Yeah, great show.

Kind of puts things in perspective eh?

[Laworkerbee]

Well the septics keep saying it's a 'War' on 'Terror' don't they? It's a bit naive to think that a 'War' is going to be casualty free isn't it? You can't make an omelette without a few eggs getting broken and all that.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4430/batfd3.gif

[futurepilot2004]

Fuk me i knew the IRA liked to set them off but the numbers were pretty staggering i believe he said there was 1,300 carbombs set off in ONE year! Those numbers would make even a Iraqi nutter group blink....

Yeah but over a hundred ira members managed to blow themselves up by accident in the process :)

[Mastermind]

I don't understand your point in your first post which I took to mean that this is something we need to be particularly worried about. There are far bigger issues to be concerned about IMO - global warming for one, the economy, whether I am going to get to sh@g the blonde with large breasts in accounts next week etc etc.

Am I cynical as you say - the answer is yes. But at least if you are cynical you can only ever be pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, Global Warming, now there's a real blighty thing that might blast you to bits on your subway or will smash your airliner into a big building filled with innocent people.

Yeah, that mean old sun might just strap on a suicide vest some day and getcha. Better watch out, old Scratch might pop up out of the floorboards and snatch ya right outa yer PJ's...

But, old Mohammed and his one eyed boy just come 'ome from slicing throats for the Tali, naw...'es a good boy 'e is....'e wouldn't 'urt a fly, that one. Fact is, we'd be doin' good to 'ave a few more of 'em in our midst.

Keep up the fantasy life, that's what I say. So much easier to get along that way....wot?

[jimmymac]

I reckon you've gone soft there mate if you're so worried about a few little bombs so far away in London. Crikey, did you never hear of the blitz or the IRA? I reckon you need to harden to f**k up and stop havin a whinge and a snivel about a few little back packs. I bet more people died last year in London from falling drunk under cars than were ever killed by 'Muslims'. More people died from bad drugs on the street or no drugs in the NHS hospitals, or suicide coz the whole country is so bloody depressed. I bet more men drank themselves into early graves in London last year because of unhappy marriages than will ever be killed by Muslims. You get the idea? Much as a few hysterical ninnies made of those few pops on 7/7, they will always only be just that. I reckon the ANZACs would be spewing their guts up to hear you moaning on about the 'Muslim' threat in you regurgitated posts. No need to wet yourself mate. Take it easy, sit down, put your feet up and have a great big mug of 'Harden to F**k up'.

[wildcat]

I reckon you've gone soft there mate if you're so worried about a few little bombs so far away in London. Crikey, did you never hear of the blitz or the IRA? I reckon you need to harden to f**k up and stop havin a whinge and a snivel about a few little back packs. I bet more people died last year in London from falling drunk under cars than were ever killed by 'Muslims'. More people died from bad drugs on the street or no drugs in the NHS hospitals, or suicide coz the whole country is so bloody depressed. I bet more men drank themselves into early graves in London last year because of unhappy marriages than will ever be killed by Muslims. You get the idea? Much as a few hysterical ninnies made of those few pops on 7/7, they will always only be just that. I reckon the ANZACs would be spewing their guts up to hear you moaning on about the 'Muslim' threat in you regurgitated posts. No need to wet yourself mate. Take it easy, sit down, put your feet up and have a great big mug of 'Harden to F**k up'.

You seem to be a screw loose, There is a big difference from a drunk failing under a bus, a drug addict ODing and some body blowing a dew people up. You see the first 2 they killed themselves, where as you say a "few little back pack" bombs killed people though no choice of there own, premeditated murder. Get it, Good shut the Fvck up.

[California Joe]

I reckon you've gone soft there mate if you're so worried about a few little bombs so far away in London. Crikey, did you never hear of the blitz or the IRA? I reckon you need to harden to f**k up and stop havin a whinge and a snivel about a few little back packs. I bet more people died last year in London from falling drunk under cars than were ever killed by 'Muslims'. More people died from bad drugs on the street or no drugs in the NHS hospitals, or suicide coz the whole country is so bloody depressed. I bet more men drank themselves into early graves in London last year because of unhappy marriages than will ever be killed by Muslims. You get the idea? Much as a few hysterical ninnies made of those few pops on 7/7, they will always only be just that. I reckon the ANZACs would be spewing their guts up to hear you moaning on about the 'Muslim' threat in you regurgitated posts. No need to wet yourself mate. Take it easy, sit down, put your feet up and have a great big mug of 'Harden to F**k up'.

Are you stuck on stupid?

[Mr.Flint]

Are you stuck on stupid?
That would be one fine user title for him.:)

[California Joe]

If he sticks around long enough. Not looking too good at the moment.

[wigon]

Yeah, Global Warming, now there's a real blighty thing that might blast you to bits on your subway or will smash your airliner into a big building filled with innocent people.

Yeah, that mean old sun might just strap on a suicide vest some day and getcha. Better watch out, old Scratch might pop up out of the floorboards and snatch ya right outa yer PJ's...

But, old Mohammed and his one eyed boy just come 'ome from slicing throats for the Tali, naw...'es a good boy 'e is....'e wouldn't 'urt a fly, that one. Fact is, we'd be doin' good to 'ave a few more of 'em in our midst.

Keep up the fantasy life, that's what I say. So much easier to get along that way....wot?


So are you one of those "Global Warming is just a myth and lets go on polluting the hell out of our environment and make sh*t-tons of money" guys? Personally I think the survival of the human race and our ecological diversity is a bit more important then a few terrorist attacks here and there. Let them attack...we'll just bomb the hell out of their countries and eventually Europeans will just start mass deportations of Muslims and anyone who is evenly remotely brown in skin color.
Don't ya know its all part of gobalization and market economics if you think about it. When the market for suicide bombers peak, market forces (superior competitive groups-namely Europeans will start mass deportation based upon terror of brown people) will curb that quickly after a bit of bloodshed. This will create a bearish market. So have faith in capitalism. Of coarse if they make a bunch of nukes, well then that's another issue...then we get back to a nuclear winters...although maybe that might balance out with all the global warming.... it makes you think...hmm.....
Have faith in capitalism! ....well unless you're a commie.


Wigon

[a_very_ex_STAB]

The bird in accounts ? - you couldnt pull the top on a pint of milk, so no chance !


That's not what your missus said when I sh@gged her last week ;-)

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Yeah, Global Warming, now there's a real blighty thing that might blast you to bits on your subway or will smash your airliner into a big building filled with innocent people.

You septics really have no idea of how many people are going to die or be displaced by global warming do you? Or of the knock-on consequences in terms of conflict and resource wars that will result:roll:

911 will be a non-event by comparison.

But hey keep looking in the wrong direction if you want don't blame me when the world gets hit by the train you never saw coming.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I reckon you've gone soft there mate if you're so worried about a few little bombs so far away in London. Crikey, did you never hear of the blitz or the IRA? I reckon you need to harden to f**k up and stop havin a whinge and a snivel about a few little back packs. I bet more people died last year in London from falling drunk under cars than were ever killed by 'Muslims'. More people died from bad drugs on the street or no drugs in the NHS hospitals, or suicide coz the whole country is so bloody depressed. I bet more men drank themselves into early graves in London last year because of unhappy marriages than will ever be killed by Muslims. You get the idea? Much as a few hysterical ninnies made of those few pops on 7/7, they will always only be just that. I reckon the ANZACs would be spewing their guts up to hear you moaning on about the 'Muslim' threat in you regurgitated posts. No need to wet yourself mate. Take it easy, sit down, put your feet up and have a great big mug of 'Harden to F**k up'.

Hear hear. Excellent post. Well said it was about time someone told it like is to put things in the proper context.

Of course you will offend all the one issue armchair neocons on here by saying it.

[wildcat]

You septics really have no idea of how many people are going to die or be displaced by global warming do you? Or of the knock-on consequences in terms of conflict and resource wars that will result:roll:

911 will be a non-event by comparison.

But hey keep looking in the wrong direction if you want don't blame me when the world gets hit by the train you never saw coming.
Sorry to bust your bubble but Global Warming is not Man made, I think you been buying into all the left wing fear making.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Sorry to bust your bubble but Global Warming is not Man made, I think you been buying into all the left wing fear making.

Whether it's man made or not is irrelevant - its happening and its going to have consequences.

I think you've been doing an ostrich impression. Wake up and smell the rising tide.
:roll:

[wildcat]

Whether it's man made or not is irrelevant - its happening and its going to have consequences.

I think you've been doing an ostrich impression. Wake up and smell the rising tide.
:roll:
Sorry I still don't see that much change, maybe in the future if thing look dire I change my mind, until then, it just fear, power grabbing BS. Time will tell.

[oldsoak]

That's not what your missus said when I sh@gged her last week ;-)

- thats not a conquest mate, trust me. Saved me a job though.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

- thats not a conquest mate, trust me. Saved me a job though.

Always happy to help!

[oldsoak]

And another thing....
- resource wars will happen regardless of global warming - we are already consuming more of the worlds resources as third world countries rise out of their poverty and start doing all the things that environmentalists say are bad for us. Add religion and greed to that and viola ! Global warming merely accelerates the inevitable. Sad to say, but the ability to chuck your weight around harder than the next bloke will be a criteria for national survival, another citeria will be the ability of a society not to fragment into ethnic or religious groups under pressure.

[Mastermind]

You septics really have no idea of how many people are going to die or be displaced by global warming do you? Or of the knock-on consequences in terms of conflict and resource wars that will result:roll:

911 will be a non-event by comparison.

But hey keep looking in the wrong direction if you want don't blame me when the world gets hit by the train you never saw coming.
Oh, but you Gorbots are all totally and absolutely positive of what's going tohappen with the weather for the next two hundred years, eh? I really don't think you folks have looked at the global weather cooling patterns lately, have you?

But, that's not what this thread is really about.

It seems that most people are out of perspective on both the GWOT and the Global Warming issues. By remaining in your distorted views, you defeat your ability to come to grips with the problem...you are in a state of hysteria and can't think straight or see the forest for the trees.

Pracital approaces to any problem are just not possible when the problem solvers are in a state of panic.

I guess the facts don't matter anymore. I love the declaration, "The debate is over...it's time for action!" Debate over...facts and reality don't matter!

It's like a man who is drowing in two feet of water...yes, he's drowning...but, if he would only relaize the truth that all he has to do is stand up.

[CMNot]

By remaining in your distorted views, you defeat your ability to come to grips with the problem...you are in a state of hysteria and can't think straight or see the forest for the trees

No, I'm not. I am here, living and breathing in AQ infested Britain. I've had the Chief Constable of Leicestershire Constabulary look me in the face and tell me - and I quote = "AQ is here; AQ is in Leicester".

Yes, there is a problem. I am not hiding it.

It is however a small problem. A real, and not perceived problem, is that in 14 months on current trends I will be in negative equity. I have to pay into two healthcare schemes so that I am covered. A gallon of petrol costs me $4.55. Sales tax is 17.5%, income tax variable around 28%. Inflation is on the up. I am 'led' (very loose definition) by a bunch of ****s I never once voted for. These, are problems. These, are issues.

Pissed off Paki's in Bradford are a long way down the list - at least, until the good times roll around again and people have the time, finances and compunction to give a toss about something other than surviving.

Global warming can kiss my ass. Until I see a scientific truism trend, I will continue to burn my rubbish because the socialist council is enforcing recycling upon us by removing the rubbish bins/trash cans once a fortnight. Again, a real problem.

[Mastermind]

No, I'm not. I am here, living and breathing in AQ infested Britain. I've had the Chief Constable of Leicestershire Constabulary look me in the face and tell me - and I quote = "AQ is here; AQ is in Leicester".

Yes, there is a problem. I am not hiding it.

It is however a small problem. A real, and not perceived problem, is that in 14 months on current trends I will be in negative equity. I have to pay into two healthcare schemes so that I am covered. A gallon of petrol costs me $4.55. Sales tax is 17.5%, income tax variable around 28%. Inflation is on the up. I am 'led' (very loose definition) by a bunch of ****s I never once voted for. These, are problems. These, are issues.

Pissed off Paki's in Bradford are a long way down the list - at least, until the good times roll around again and people have the time, finances and compunction to give a toss about something other than surviving.

Global warming can kiss my ass. Until I see a scientific truism trend, I will continue to burn my rubbish because the socialist council is enforcing recycling upon us by removing the rubbish bins/trash cans once a fortnight. Again, a real problem.
So, what's to be done about it? How can you conintually accept this circumstance as a people? I suppose the same way we here in the USA do...by acquiescence, day to day acceptance, tolerance hoping tomorrow will bring some slightly less bad news...hoping to be distracted by some little blondie movie star who gets naked, pregnant or arrested...anything but to be forced to take action.

It's really the slowly sinking ship syndrome, isn't it?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

So, what's to be done about it? How can you conintually accept this circumstance as a people? I suppose the same way we here in the USA do...by acquiescence, day to day acceptance, tolerance hoping tomorrow will bring some slightly less bad news...hoping to be distracted by some little blondie movie star who gets naked, pregnant or arrested...anything but to be forced to take action.

It's really the slowly sinking ship syndrome, isn't it?

AQ in Europe and the UK is a much smaller problem than you have with your Mexican invasion so why don't you shut it and sort that out instead of whingeing all the time about how we run our society.

WTF is a Gorbot?:roll:

[wildcat]

WTF is a Gorbot?:roll:
LOL, Gore BOT = AL GORE Robot

[Freedom06]

I would agree with most of the posts here that (muslim) terrorism threat at the moment is exaggerated in some quarters of the press-we have lived through terror campaigns in the past and we're still here-the sky hasn't fallen in. If, or when, another attack(car bomb, suicide bomb etc) happens we will dust ourselves off and carry on. Just look at israel-their economoy has actually been growing throughout the terror attacks.

But, and it's a big but, it's the dirty-bomb or biological weapon attack that will be catastrophic if we take our eye off the ball....we know that they(AQ) would use such weapons if they had the chance-there is no deterrence-they do not fear retribution. That's the event that I imagine keeps a lot of people in the security services awake at night..

[a_very_ex_STAB]

LOL, Gore BOT = AL GORE Robot

LOL and there was me thinking he was referring to our esteemed Prime Minister Gordon Brown aka the Fat Controller.

[wildcat]

LOL and there was me thinking he was referring to our esteemed Prime Minister Gordon Brown aka the Fat Controller.
Fat Controller, now that's funny LOL

[oldsoak]

AQ in Europe and the UK is a much smaller problem than you have with your Mexican invasion so why don't you shut it and sort that out instead of whingeing all the time about how we run our society

Aw, come on ! :roll:

Because he can whinge if he so choose - we do allow discussion of other peoples/countries problems and we are allowed to express an opinion regarding them. This is the nature of debate in a forum. Attempting to refute his argument by focusing on a non related issue is hardly constructive, neither does it answer the point he raises.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Aw, come on ! :roll:

Because he can whinge if he so choose - we do allow discussion of other peoples/countries problems and we are allowed to express an opinion regarding them. This is the nature of debate in a forum. Attempting to refute his argument by focusing on a non related issue is hardly constructive, neither does it answer the point he raises.

Hysterical whiny paranoid septics p1$$ me off :bash:

[Laworkerbee]

Hysterical whiny paranoid septics p1$$ me off :bash:

Will you stop being such an anti American **** already.

FFS!

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Will you stop being such an anti American **** already.

FFS!

I didn't say all septics were like that but let's just say they are massively over-represented on here :-)

[Laworkerbee]

I didn't say all septics were like that but let's just say they are massively over-represented on here :-)

I know, we are an excitable bunch at times ;-)

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I know, we are an excitable bunch at times ;-)

Try drinking tea instead of coffee

[Laworkerbee]

Try drinking tea instead of coffee

If society collapsed tomorrow mate I'd be rampaging the city for coffee p-)

[a_very_ex_STAB]

If society collapsed tomorrow mate I'd be rampaging the city for coffee p-)


LOL I know what you mean!!