WW2 US HerringBoneTwill Camo

[Aldo Penniconi]

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[James]

That's great. Do you have anything to say about it?

[macdaddy78]

Herringbone was used in the Pacific by US troops in WW2 and from what I understand it forms the basis of AUSCAM.

[James]

A similar pattern was used by a few U.S. Army units in France in the summer of 1944, but use was discontinued because at a distance, troops wearing the pattern were often mistaken for the Waffen SS.

[Vince S]

Herringbone was used in the Pacific by US troops in WW2 and from what I understand it forms the basis of AUSCAM.

As far as I know only Marines used that pattern for uniforms. And by 1944 they were mostly wearing OD fatigues and kept Herringbone twill camo for their helmet covers and shelter halves

[Scrim]

Just to clarify "Herringbone Twill" is the name of the material used, not the name of the pattern.(Look at the weave in the second picture).
The plain green or sage utilities were also made of herringbone twill.

[lightcav]

Thats right. HBT was just the material. There were several different uniform designs using HBT. The army had a one-piece camo uniform and later modifed it to two-piece like their regular HBT fatiges. The marines did the same thing. Their camo uniform was the same pattern as their HBT fatigues.

Note that the design of the HBT uniforms the army and the marines used is different. The marines had three simple flapless pockets on the bouse and similar pockets on the trousers. The army had two big pockets with flaps on the shirts and the pants had one big hip pocket with flap on each side.

Also the buttons for the army uniforms had all the stars on them where as the marines had buttons that said "US MARINE CORPS". Those samples are the army samples.

Also I've seen quite a lot of pictures of marines using the camo in the pacific rather extensively. Often they would mismatch and wear camo tops with sage green bottoms.

[Fintin]

I have an original of one of the jackets. It smells like old persons house.

[Jameten]

I have an original of one of the jackets. It smells like old persons house.

like an old women? cuz they smell old

[wotsnext]

I have an original of one of the jackets. It smells like old persons house.
Mothballs........?

[Billy No Mates]

Mothballs........?

Probably a mixture of werthers original's and piss .

[bakercompany]

Here's some info and a bunch of pictures of the Army Camo HBTs in use in Normandy in the summer of '44. For some reason the exact URL can't be copied and pasted, so go to...

http://atthefront.com/

then navigate "US," "Uniforms," "US Army Camouflage Uniforms."

[Albatross]

That looks like pretty high quality stuff. Hot as hell, but high quality.

[Ghetto Defendant]

Here's some info and a bunch of pictures of the Army Camo HBTs in use in Normandy in the summer of '44. For some reason the exact URL can't be copied and pasted, so go to...

http://atthefront.com/

then navigate "US," "Uniforms," "US Army Camouflage Uniforms."

Thanks for the link.

My grandfather served during the Normandy Campaign with the 2nd Inf. Div. (D-Day +2 through 9 Aug. ‘44, when he was WIA) and his MOS was Scout 761. He always said he was one of the few personnel issued a camo uniform, but I had never seen any pictures of US Army soldiers in camo before.

[TallGuy]

Thanks for the link.

My grandfather served during the Normandy Campaign with the 2nd Inf. Div. (D-Day +2 through 9 Aug. ‘44, when he was WIA) and his MOS was Scout 761. He always said he was one of the few personnel issued a camo uniform, but I had never seen any pictures of US Army soldiers in camo before.
One of the reasons why it wasn't used much in the ETO was because it looked similar to Waffen SS camo, from a distance that is....

[Eztyga]

Herringbone was used in the Pacific by US troops in WW2 and from what I understand it forms the basis of AUSCAM.

Erm...no it doesn't.

Auscam was designed by the CSIRO using computer technology. They came up with a pattern that best suited the many different environs that we have in Australia.

Ezy

[LineDoggie]

Army usage of Camo uniforms in the ETO was sparse. Main ph0tographic evidence shows units of the 2nd Armored Division's -17th Engineers & 41st Armored Infantry Regiment were issued these suits to replace worn out HBT's. I believe the 30th Infantry Division recieved some as well. Their simularity to SS Dot pattern camoflage was their undoing to trigger happy G.I.'s & Tom's in Normandy.

[WoodlandDPM]

The USMC Spot / Frog / Frog Skin camouflage pattern was designed by a horticulturalist. The pattern is not very effective with such simple leafy shapes.

[WoodlandDPM]

The hunting camouflage called “Duckhunter” is a brown version of this pattern.

[Eztyga]

Army usage of Camo uniforms in the ETO was sparse. Main ph0tographic evidence shows units of the 2nd Armored Division's -17th Engineers & 41st Armored Infantry Regiment were issued these suits to replace worn out HBT's. I believe the 30th Infantry Division recieved some as well. Their simularity to SS Dot pattern camoflage was their undoing to trigger happy G.I.'s & Tom's in Normandy.

There are some images in this book of the uniform being worn.

'Breakout at Normandy' by Mark Bando (ISBN 0-7603-0654-0).

Not really worth buying just for a few images, I just happen to have it in my book collection because of an interest in WW2 armour.

Ezy

[onefast93z28]

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/8170/41starminfmv9.th.jpg (http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41starminfmv9.jpg)

41st armored infantry of the 2nd Armored in 1944

[congofal]

here's 1960's Duck Hunter camo , used by U.S Advisors early in Vietnam (from my collection)
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff22/Adler69_photo/Edspics444.jpg

and this is my ETO camo jacket, dated September 1943
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4412/ffldbprf4.jpg