Saudi Arabian girl, 8, seeks divorce

[Lazy Lob]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/2614442/Saudi-Arabian-girl-8-seeks-divorce.html


Saudi Arabian girl, 8, seeks divorce
A Saudi Arabian court is to rule next month on the divorce of an eight-year-old girl from a man in his fifties.


Last Updated: 6:46PM BST 24 Aug 2008

The girl, who still does not know she is married, lives with her parents in the town of Unayzah, 135 miles north of the capital Riyadh. The marriage had been arranged in secret by her father.

She is preparing to start the new year at primary school in the town, which is located in the conservative Najd region of the country - the spiritual homeland of the Islamist Wahhabi movement that has long dominated the kingdom.

According to the Arabic-language newspaper Al-Watan, which reported the case, the divorce suit has been filed by the girl's mother.

Her relatives have contacted human rights groups in the kingdom to try to arrange legal help to annul the marriage.

However, the husband has refused, saying he has done nothing wrong.

Saudi Arabia's justice system is based on a conservative interpretation of Sharia law, but also incorporates some aspects of tribal custom from the people of the Arabian peninsula.

Polygamy is common and arranged marriages involving pre-adolescent girls and older men are occasionally reported.

The rate of child marriage rates in the Middle East is lower than in parts of Africa and south Asia, but there is a particular problem in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

In April another eight-year-old girl won a divorce after fleeing from her husband, aged 28, and arriving in the main court in the capital Sana'a.

A United Nations report on child marriage in 2005 found that 100 million girls were expected to marry by the age of 18 before 2015. The worst countries for child marriage were Niger, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Afghanistan, India and Bangladesh.

[-Church-]

Jesus Christ 28 year's old... Why did we decide to buy Saudi Arabia's oil instead of taking it for free when it was just a desert ?

[Macs.]

A great ally in the "Global War On Terror".

[LoboCanada]

Thank God.^

[khukuri]

Jesus Christ 28 year's old... Why did we decide to buy Saudi Arabia's oil instead of taking it for free when it was just a desert ?


What the article describes is just horrible.

But stealing the oil instead of buying proves that youre nothing but a looting thief, not much better that the guys that the article is about.

[-Church-]

What the article describes is just horrible.

But stealing the oil instead of buying proves that youre nothing but a looting thief, not much better that the guys that the article is about.

At least we wouldnt have to sit on the sidelines and constantly read about this kind of crap while being unable to do anything real or constructive.

[Junkelf]

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Saudi Arabian girl, 8, seeks divorce
A Saudi Arabian court is to rule next month on the divorce of an eight-year-old girl from a man in his fifties.


Well what do you expect, their "prophet" married his favorite wife "Aisha" when she was age 6, but he was a god guy....he did not consume the marrige until she age 9
Seen in that light the above cannot surprise you

[brainplay]

There either has to be alot of money involved in "marriage" or someone is fine passing their daughter on to a pedo. Usually its a money or land thing as the dowries involved can get pretty darn big.

[Dercius]

Just cant wait to see the day we will be able to get an alternative to oil, and we would have no excuse for not exporting some democracy to all our so called "allies" in Middle Eastwoot

[-Church-]

Just cant wait to see the day we will be able to get an alternative to oil, and we would have no excuse for not exporting some democracy to all our so called "allies" in Middle Eastwoot

I was thinking about that a few days ago but more like when it all dries up. The turn out is going to be very interesting.

[Power_serj]

A great ally in the "Global War On Terror".

Better those ****ed up princes and kings than the alternative: ultra-fanatics Islamists.

[-CROAT-SOLDIER-]

A country which lets pedophiles roam the streets, the same streets they behead people for stealing or even preferring the same ***. Really makes no sense.

[-Church-]

Better those ****ed up princes and kings than the alternative: ultra-fanatics Islamists.

Yeah because when we think Saudi Arabia we dont think ultra fanatics islamists...

[The Balkan]

Saudi Arabia is trapped in some sort of time vortex. What's even funier is it's voluntary.

[Power_serj]

Yeah because when we think Saudi Arabia we dont think ultra fanatics islamists...

I'm talking about the government here. Not that they're not ultra fanatics, but believe me, it could be much worse.

[-Church-]

Yeah the talibans are a good exemple of that. But having men and women being socially disconnected till they marry is already a bit too ****ing far.

That and the trials against women who got raped because they deem they didnt do enough to get away.

[RECON DOC]

So what's her problem? Won't he let her watch Sponge Bob Square pants?

[Bia]

Saudi Arabia is trapped in some sort of time vortex. What's even funier is it's voluntary.Well they do have fiftyeleven quadrillion dollars pumping into their economy by sticking a straw in the ground. Thus the gold and diamonds adorning missing links.

:P

[thscott83]

These are our allies? Do our enemies marry four-year olds?

[brainplay]

Just cant wait to see the day we will be able to get an alternative to oil, and we would have no excuse for not exporting some democracy to all our so called "allies" in Middle Eastwoot

Ah but all that money sinking into their economy is what keeps them "civil" or at least the closest thing too it. Just wait till the crude dries up and they're poor. Now imagine entire nations waiting to take a crack at you one suicide bomber at a time.

On top of that, what makes you think that the alternative producers are going to be any better? From the way its going, the alternatives aren't going to be produced locally for cheap. Unless the lobbyist get on the ball, South American and several middle east countries are going to be the ones producing the cheapest celluose and organic materials for "alternative" fuels. Oh noes! :oops:

[BlackFlag]

8 years old..not even OLD enough to bear children..what possibly could be the excuse for a 28 year old man "marrying" an 8 year old. Does that justify pedophilia? Funny how muslim countries can demonize the west as being ******ly deviant and perverted when they allow a man to marry a child. Also a bit off topic but isn't it strange that one motivation for suicide bombings is to be given 72 virgins in heaven? THAT is perverted.

[Martel]

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1093/unicef8bn9.jpg

[brainplay]

8 years old..not even OLD enough to bear children..what possibly could be the excuse for a 28 year old man "marrying" an 8 year old. Does that justify pedophilia?

Like I mentioned before, I'm probably thinking its a money, land, or something else in return.

Western countries used to do this to back in the old days. The difference is that we gave in up around the 17th century. Kids were "betrothed" to someone as young as 1yr old. The girl's parents were given a "dowry" which is almost like a payment. The dowry could be land, money, or even just prestige within a caste system. While its use has gone down in modernized middle eastern nations it still prevelant.

Now the polygamy thing you brought up isn't preverted although we all seem to think, or wish it was. Having multiple wives doesn't mean you get orgies every weekend. Although one guy I was teaching english to did claim you get more headaches. rofl

[Kaapeli]

Now the polygamy thing you brought up isn't preverted although we all seem to think, or wish it was. Having multiple wives doesn't mean you get orgies every weekend. Although one guy I was teaching english to did claim you get more headaches. rofl

The average western guy has many times more *** partners, orgies and other wild encounters in his lifetime than a muslim guy with two wives. That western guy can sometimes have a different partner every week when the muslim man will likely never in his life get to touch other women than his two wives.

[Macs.]

The average western guy has many times more *** partners, orgies and other wild encounters in his lifetime than a muslim guy with two wives. That western guy can sometimes have a different partner every week when the muslim man will likely never in his life get to touch other women than his two wives.

Yeah, I guess that's why Prostitution is highly spread in Muslim countries... :roll:

Don't try to fool yourself, Muslim (I am talking about those who actually live their faith) men are not greatly different from the rest.

[Kaapeli]

Yeah, I guess that's why Prostitution is highly spread in Muslim countries... :roll:

Don't try to fool yourself, Muslim (I am talking about those who actually live their faith) men are not greatly different from the rest.

Atleast prostitution is illegal in the majority of those nations (not that I think voluntary prostitution should be illegal).

But that was my point exactly: Muslim's with their polygamy aren't that different from us westerners and our multiple *** partners. For a muslim the only socially acceptable and legal way to have *** or relations is with a wife or wives. A western womanizer doesn't have to marry anyone to f-ck around or date multiple girls.

[PeterRJG]

Here's one from left field. Islam (in all of its interpretations) has actually "improved" the lot of the average Arabian peninsular girl. Prior to Muhammad, Arabs regularly practiced female infanticide.

In other words, it's not really a Muslim thing - it's a Bedouin Arab thing. They seriously have major issues with girls and women and have had so for millennia.

[PanzerMaster]

8 years old..not even OLD enough to bear children..what possibly could be the excuse for a 28 year old man "marrying" an 8 year old. Does that justify pedophilia? Funny how muslim countries can demonize the west as being ******ly deviant and perverted when they allow a man to marry a child. Also a bit off topic but isn't it strange that one motivation for suicide bombings is to be given 72 virgins in heaven? THAT is perverted.

Strange? Why strange? My friend we have wealthy old men that can buy 4 wives each (or more in a lifetime if one wive die or is killed by stoning for watching a western soap opera or whatever).

Then for every old rich pervo, you have 3 hot headed, straight, young males that, in addition to the impossibility to marry, have *** and sons, cannot:
- have ****
- have booze
- have hookers
- be gay

Then, the same rich old pervos gather those hothead and say: "It all fault of the west! Go kill some white mofo and have 72 virgins all for you!"

I put it simply, harshly and humorosly... but in the past having a mass of desperate young males made a lot of good invasion armies for Islam: and also those poor losers earned the right to have some wives or female slaves after capturing an enemy territory. Next generation of young males --> next invasion army ready.

There are a lot of studies that underline the MALE psycology (both of the powerful female-hoarders and the poor unmarried cannon fodder). Polygamy breed hatred, violence and social problems that must vented outside.

Those are not my opinions, just do some research (hint: try a site like "jihad watch (http://jihadwatch.org/)", he has some good articles on islam jihad/invasions history... I didn't read other craps in this site thoug...)

[Macs.]

Atleast prostitution is illegal in the majority of those nations (not that I think voluntary prostitution should be illegal).

But that was my point exactly: Muslim's with their polygamy aren't that different from us westerners and our multiple *** partners. For a muslim the only socially acceptable and legal way to have *** or relations is with a wife or wives. A western womanizer doesn't have to marry anyone to f-ck around or date multiple girls.

Illegal or not doesn't matter - It's being used. Polygamy may be the only socially acceptable thing in that matter for them - But that's by far not anything that is going on in society. *** is a big thing, even in the most hardlined Muslim countries. Often the more strict a goverment, the more outgoing and perverted the citizens get. (Ofcourse in the secret) Prostituation, Rape. But yeah, I agree with the point you are trying to make.

Just think of that high Sharia Judge in Saudi Arabia who recently got busted with Mariuahna. Pretty funny.

Or the 9/11 hijackers. They visited Strip Clubs, spent hundred of dollars on **** and *** toys, and "escort services"... And they were pretty much the most radical kind...

[khukuri]

8 years old..not even OLD enough to bear children..what possibly could be the excuse for a 28 year old man "marrying" an 8 year old. Does that justify pedophilia? Funny how muslim countries can demonize the west as being ******ly deviant and perverted when they allow a man to marry a child.


This is not the norm in islamic countries more than paedophilia is in most western countries.
If you really think that one billion people have the same view on this all you show is your own ignorance.

[PeterG]

Better those ****ed up princes and kings than the alternative: ultra-fanatics Islamists.

The ultra-fanatics are not separate from the princes, and the saudi businessmen that also have made US lobbyists, bureaucrats, politicians and businessmen billions... They are all the true enemies of the US and the western world, by financing and spreading the devastatingly violent wahabi brand of islam. Everyone has always been aware of this - but ignored it because of all the money they have made on the saudis at the same time. That includes Cheney and his pals. He and the rest knew full well that Saddam was totally harmless to the US compared to the saudis - but Saddam made them no cash, so they took him down instead.

[Lazy Lob]

This is not the norm in islamic countries more than paedophilia is in most western countries.
If you really think that one billion people have the same view on this all you show is your own ignorance.

You what?


I've got a zillion hairs in me crack. Doesn't make it a one eyed seeing monster.......



Can you do a rap to that?


JFC..................

[PanzerMaster]

The ultra-fanatics are not separate from the princes, and the saudi businessmen that also have made US lobbyists, bureaucrats, politicians and businessmen billions... They are all the true enemies of the US and the western world, by financing and spreading the devastatingly violent wahabi brand of islam. Everyone has always been aware of this - but ignored it because of all the money they have made on the saudis at the same time. That includes Cheney and his pals. He and the rest knew full well that Saddam was totally harmless to the US compared to the saudis - but Saddam made them no cash, so they took him down instead.

You are right. Your words are holier than the Bible my friend... but, as you say, nothing can stands against the billions of dollars :-(

[timetraveller]

Turning to that religion would give all the shadys a rite to roam ... including the recently released Gary Glitter

Goes to show it's seen a legal under islamic law and traditions it's allowed ,,


sad but true .. even though many of us disagree ,