Medvedev named 5 principles of Russia's foreign affairs

[jaybe]

1) Сommitment to international law principles
2) Denial of one-pole system
3) Avoiding confrontation with other countries
4) Protecting Russian citizens abroad
5) Protecting friendly countries

http://lenta.ru/news/2008/08/31/medvedev/

in Russian

[Mr.Flint]

Translation from russian to english:

1)We will do as we please, cuz we got da nukes.
2)We are back, and kick ass.
3)Dont fcuk with us, and do as we say, and you will be just fine.
4)Any place with Russian citizens, now belongs to us, and if fcuking that place up will hurt Amerikkans and NATO, we will do that. Jooos are not counted as citizens.
5)All the brownosers, now belong to us, mess with them and we fcuk you up, by giving them weapons and nukes... and will threaten to nuke you.






:)

[jetsetter]

Putin named 5 principles of Russia's foreign affairs

Fixed it for you there.

[RSone]

1) Сommitment to international law principles
2) Denial of one-pole system
3) Avoiding confrontation with other countries
4) Protecting Russian citizens abroad
5) Protecting friendly countries

http://lenta.ru/news/2008/08/31/medvedev/

in Russian

Translation from Kremlinspeak to Englush:

1 We're law abiding people, as long as we get to set the law
2 We like to think we can win the new cold war, even though Ancte Sam(cookie if you get the reference) has a gazillion times more money to spend.
3 As long as you show deference to the Almighty Putin,we won't smerch your butt back to the stone-age.
4 FREE RUSSIAN PASSPORTS FOR EVERYONE,GEET THEM WHILE THEY LAST!!!!
5 We're taking over town, and NATO can't do jack about it(we think).

[jaybe]

What a zoo here

[Vorian]

Translation from Kremlinspeak to Englush:

1 We're law abiding people, as long as we get to set the law
2 We like to think we can win the new cold war, even though Ancte Sam(cookie if you get the reference) has a gazillion times more money to spend.
3 As long as you show deference to the Almighty Putin,we won't smerch your butt back to the stone-age.
4 FREE RUSSIAN PASSPORTS FOR EVERYONE,GEET THEM WHILE THEY LAST!!!!
5 We're taking over town, and NATO can't do jack about it(we think).

Is that really so different form US translated statements? Especialy number 1

[RSone]

Is that really so different form US translated statements? Especialy number 1

Did I say it was any different from the US?:roll:

[Vorian]

Did you? Cause most people here keep attacking Russians for the same things they defend their country for.
Personally, it's this hypocricy that makes me defend them, not cause I like them

[RSone]

I am neither Russian or American, so one could say I am as unbiased as possible on this subject. I couldn't give a flying pelican **** about wat either side, or it's supporters, thinks of the other.

It just comes across as a bit hypocrite for Medvedev to state these principles, when they pretty much raped those same principles only a few weeks ago.(And, Yes I know the ossetians and the georgians are to blame as well, but that's not the point here)

[asch]

What a zoo here
get used to it. thread title have "Medvedev" and 'Russia" in it. sure way to attract certainly-minded persons.
p-)

[Rostov]

1) Сommitment to international law principles
2) Denial of one-pole system
3) Avoiding confrontation with other countries
4) Protecting Russian citizens abroad
5) Protecting friendly countries

http://lenta.ru/news/2008/08/31/medvedev/

in Russian

1) Russia will enforce international law or atleast will make it look like its enforcing it.
2) Direct challenge to American dominance in every aspect.
3) Pretending it never started the fight first.
4) Will invade any country with Russian citizens in it.
5) Ready to defend allies militarily.

[boy1000]

1) Сommitment to international law principles
2) Denial of one-pole system
3) Avoiding confrontation with other countries
4) Protecting Russian citizens abroad
5) Protecting friendly countries

http://lenta.ru/news/2008/08/31/medvedev/

in Russian

I will try to be more constructive.... And as somebody previously said, when Russia is named in the thread some people have a tendency to become almost primitive....

I think it is VERY constructive this is said out but also very interesting so close to EU have a meeting in Brussels if they should impose economical sanctions to Russian export to EU.

For me it will critical to Medvedev and Putin to cooperate with EU as a hole regarding their role in the International forum. I do not think US is ready to at the moment to cooperate with Russia to make place for Russia internationally especially after the war in Caucasus.

My concern is that Russia due to the main export is Energy would be tempted to Isolate it selfs. Due to an outspoken nationalism that is taking place in Russia, it could be tempted to isolate... I sincerely hope both Russia, EU and US are smart and find a mutual understanding.

Let see...

[GazB]

I am neither Russian or American, so one could say I am as unbiased as possible on this subject.

Hahahahaha... I am not Russian or American... how many here think I am unbiased?

Hahahahahaha... I admit to being biased. If you see a murderer and you don't treat him like you would treat someone else you are biased... why do people think being biased is so wrong? I blame the media. The western media in particular often claim to be unbiased... often those who claim to be unbiased have the worst bias.

It is funny that people say the UN is useless, but Kosovo becoming independant and now South Ossetia and Abkhazia becoming independant violates the UNSC resolutions on territorial integrity. 160 nations don't recognise Kosovo as a sovereign state, and only a couple recognise SO and Abkhazia, so in practical terms international law is being upheld.

[Doublethinker]

Gaz,

I thought you were Russian...

[GazB]

Gaz,

I thought you were Russian...

I can't read or write Russian. I don't understand or speak spoken Russian.

I am a 6th gen New Zealander and my ancestry is British (ie Irish, English, Scottish, and Welsh... a bit of all four).

[AlexMartin2]

I can't read or write Russian. I don't understand or speak spoken Russian.

I am a 6th gen New Zealander and my ancestry is British (ie Irish, English, Scottish, and Welsh... a bit of all four).

KGB agent in 6th generation! OMG!!! WTF!!! :)

[sinophile]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=aVjFsT9ckuCg&refer=europe




EU Spars Over Georgian Crisis, Won't Sanction Russia (Update1)
By James G. Neuger
Sept. 1 (Bloomberg) -- European Union leaders sparred over how to respond to Russia's invasion of Georgia, shying away from sanctions that would undercut EU-Russia trade and aggravate the economic slowdown.
``Sanctions are not on the agenda today,'' EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Javier+Solana&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) told reporters before an EU summit (http://www.ue2008.fr/PFUE/lang/en/accueil/PFUE-09_2008/PFUE-01.09.2008/conseil_europeen_0901) in Brussels today.
The meeting, convened by French President Nicolas Sarkozy (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Nicolas+Sarkozy&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1), threatens to showcase the EU's divisions over how to handle Russia, the bloc's principal oil and gas supplier and third- biggest trading partner.
Russian troops continue to occupy parts of Georgia, after pushing Georgian forces out of the self-proclaimed rebel republic of South Ossetia and advancing into Georgia's home territory in a five-day war last month.
Russia went on to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, another breakaway Georgian republic. The step was roundly condemned by Western governments and got no support from China, beset by its own separatist movements.
Russia indicated it may be pursuing a policy of regime change in Georgia. Speaking on Russian television, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Sergei+Lavrov&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) called for an arms embargo on Georgia as long as the U.S. ally running the country, President Mikheil Saakashvili, remains in power.
Merkel Urges Dialogue
German Chancellor Angela Merkel (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Angela+Merkel&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) called the Russian attempt to dismember Georgia a breach of international law and pledged European economic reconstruction aid. At the same time, ``we don't want channels of communication with Russia to be cut off,'' Merkel said.
No government leader has called openly for economic penalties against Russia, a sign of Europe's dependence on Russian energy at a time of sky-high oil prices and sputtering growth.
Russia delivers over 40 percent of Europe's gas imports, a figure that will rise to 60 percent in 2030, according to the European Commission. A third of Europe's imported oil now comes from Russia.
In a Bloomberg Television interview, Finnish Foreign Minister Alexander Stubb (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Alexander+Stubb&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) called the war ``an alarm bell'' that will have ``long-term implications on energy security in Europe.''
The economy of the 15 nations using the euro contracted in the second quarter for the first time since the currency was created in 1999. The economy in Britain, the largest EU country outside the euro, stagnated during the quarter.
EU-Russia Trade Talks
Britain today called for the EU to suspend work on an EU- Russia trade and cooperation agreement ``in light of Russia's actions,'' the U.K. government spokesman Michael Ellam (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Michael+Ellam&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) told reporters in London. The next set of talks is scheduled for Sept. 15-16.
Inner-European wrangling has already delayed the start of the trade talks by 18 months. Suspending them might work to Russia's advantage, enabling Moscow to play European governments off against each other in energy and business dealings.
Russia wasn't the driving force behind the trade talks and wants them ``not less, but not more'' than the EU does, Vladimir Chizhov (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Vladimir%0AChizhov&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1), Russian ambassador to EU, said in a Bloomberg Television interview last week.
Opposition to the scaling back of economic ties is widely shared across the western European countries at the heart of the EU, led by Germany, the country with the deepest business connections to Russia.
Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Gerhard+Schroeder&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) is now co- manager of a Baltic Sea pipeline (http://www.nord-stream.com/en/) project involving OAO Gazprom, the Russian state-owned gas monopoly, that he negotiated when in office.
`Cold War Recipes'
Schroeder's political protege, Foreign Minister Frank- Walter Steinmeier (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Frank-%0AWalter+Steinmeier&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1), called in an interview with ZDF television yesterday for the EU to eschew ``Cold War recipes'' and pursue ``other, political solutions.''
Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Silvio+Berlusconi&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) of Italy, the No. 2 European importer of Russian oil and gas behind Germany, warned that a confrontation might lead Russia to develop new energy customers in Asia to the detriment of Europe.
``Moscow must be kept from looking to the East instead of the West,'' Berlusconi said today in an interview with Canale 5 television.
Eastern European countries once under the Soviet yoke are seeking a harder line. Some 53 percent of Poles favor imposing sanctions on Russia, with only 30 percent against, according to an Aug. 30 survey published today in the Dziennik newspaper.
No `Business as Usual'
``We can't go on saying it's business as usual,'' said Prime Minister Andrus Ansip (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Andrus+Ansip&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) of Estonia, one of three Baltic republics that broke free of Russia after the Cold War. ``Everybody has to be worried.''
Diplomatic reprisals under consideration include keeping Russia out of the World Trade Organization and Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, and downgrading of the Group of Eight, which expanded from seven industrial democracies to include Russia in 1997.
U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Gordon+Brown&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) called for more regular meetings of the old Group of Seven, a format that was revived last week when foreign ministers from the Western powers denounced Russia's assault on Georgia. The G-7 doesn't include Russia.
`Top Table'
``My message to Russia is simple: if you want to be welcome at the top table of organizations such as the G-8, OECD and WTO, you must accept that with rights come responsibilities,'' Brown wrote yesterday in the Observer, a U.K. newspaper.
In another symbolic move, the Czech government will propose a boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, a Russian resort 40 kilometers (25 miles) from the border with Abkhazia, Hospodarske Noviny reported today.
To contact the reporter on this story: James G. Neuger (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=James+G.+Neuger&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) in Brussels at jneuger@bloomberg.net

[GazB]

U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown called for more regular meetings of the old Group of Seven, a format that was revived last week when foreign ministers from the Western powers denounced Russia's assault on Georgia. The G-7 doesn't include Russia.

I doubt Russia will care much. Without India or China it really is just an old boys club for the west anyway.


KGB agent in 6th generation! OMG!!! WTF!!!

Must have a lot of back pay owing... and I want a Stechkin... the APS-B suppressed model.. :)

[jaybe]

KGB agent in 6th generation! OMG!!! WTF!!! :)

Genetically modified :)

[muttbutt]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=aVjFsT9ckuCg&refer=europeOh good...thank God we wussed out on another one of those real life test's...:roll:

[GazB]

Genetically modified

GM is banned in NZ. :)

[Rostov]

KGB agent in 6th generation! OMG!!! WTF!!! :)

He didnt say anyone from his family was Russian, so how does he become a KGB agent?

[jaybe]

He didnt say anyone from his family was Russian, so how does he become a KGB agent?


It is not nesessary - almost all famous KGBists were not Russians p-)