Polish Investigators Tie Partisans to Massacre

[Bacilluspolymyxa]

Institute of National Remembrance of Poland a government agency that is devoted to prosecuting “crimes against the Polish nation" claims that on the morning of March 8, 1943, Soviet partisans shot 128 civilians outside their homes. The famed Bielski Unit has been suspected of the attack on Naliboki village which is somewhat pronlematic as Daniel Craig is set to star as the leader of the group in the forthcoming movie "Defiance".




http://www.forward.com/articles/polish-investigators-tie-partisans-to-massacre-02323/

[InetWarrior]

Institute of National Remembrance of Poland a government agency that is devoted to prosecuting “crimes against the Polish nation" claims that on the morning of March 8, 1943, Soviet partisans shot 128 civilians outside their homes. The famed Bielski Unit has been suspected of the attack on Naliboki village which is somewhat pronlematic as Daniel Craig is set to star as the leader of the group in the forthcoming movie "Defiance".




http://www.forward.com/articles/polish-investigators-tie-partisans-to-massacre-02323/

Bielski unit was more Jewish partisans unit than "Soviet partisans"
From article

As Paramount Pictures gears up its ad campaign for a new movie about a band of Jewish partisans who fought the Nazis, some in Poland are suggesting that the partisans in question may also have been murderers.

[zad]

I saw an interesting report about them a year ago on the history channel. Bielsky partisan unit was a jewish self-defence force, it was not part of the soviet chain of command, not part of communist partisan forces.


The Bielski partisans were affiliated with Soviet partisans in the vicinity of the Naliboki Forest under General Platon (Vasily Yefimovich Chernyshev). Several attempts by Soviet partisan commanders to absorb Bielski fighters into their units were resisted, so that the Jewish partisan group retained its integrity and remained under Tuvia Bielski's command. This allowed him to continue in his dedication to protect Jewish lives along with engaging in combat activity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielski_partisans

[InetWarrior]

I saw an interesting report about them a year ago on the history channel. Bielsky partisan unit was a jewish self-defence force, it was not part of the soviet chain of command, not part of communist partisan forces.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielski_partisans

Institute of National Remembrance of Poland (IPN) its not interested in facts too much. They will make from Bielski unit a "soviet partizants", just like they make SB agent from Lech Walesa... :)

[Mr.K]

Institute of National Remembrance of Poland (IPN) its not interested in facts too much. They will make from Bielski unit a "soviet partizants", just like they make SB agent from Lech Walesa... :)
Sorry for offtopic but why do they accuse Walesa being SB?

[Gawel1410]

Sorry for offtopic but why do they accuse Walesa being SB?

Well because supposedly according to some sources, he worked for the SB, but it makes no scence since he helped destroy the old communist regime. So yea...

[Drako]

Walesa's case is purely political. Kaczynski brothers don't like him so they want to discredit him and that's where IPN comes in action. Noone believes it could be true. But IPN is a big institution and there are also good historians working there.

As to the partisans - I guess that "soviet" is used in this case as a synonym of "communist" so it doesn't necessarily mean they were under Soviet command. Prolly in the end it'll come out that it was Nazis who killed those people but what I find more disturbing are Bielski's son words:


“even if it were true, which I know it’s not, the 128 people are in no way close to the millions of people that the Polish people herded towards the Germans so they could be extinguished. I believe it’s just a consistent Polish antisemitism and the Poles are sloughing off their own crimes of being an enemy of the Jews during World War II.”

Now that's what I call a hipocrysy. He's saying about antisemitism and being anti-Polish at the same time. I'm not anti-anyone but reading such BS makes me boil up. Seriously guy is saying Poles sent millions of Jews (who still were Poles for the sake of truth) into death camps (and of course the other non-Jewish millions was a mistake of all those antisemits). He doesn't give a good face to his father by spilling such a BS around.

[InetWarrior]

Sorry for offtopic but why do they accuse Walesa being SB?

Kaczynski Brothers are like cheatted wife, that try to punish her exhusband.

They are like jacobins. True revolutions kill their most respected leader. Its more easy than to solve some real problems...
Its quaite a sad affair when first Solidarity leader is not invited for solidarity jubels...

[NBDX]

First read this:
"Tuvia Bielski and his partizans. Heroes or common bandits?"

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=134760&highlight=Tuvia+bielski

[Herrmannek]

Institute of National Remembrance of Poland (IPN) its not interested in facts too much. They will make from Bielski unit a "soviet partizants", just like they make SB agent from Lech Walesa... :)


Wrong, If consider your conspiracy logic IPN would rather reinforce pure Jewish part of the story. We have lots of stories about bad commies, even bad commie Jews.


Well because supposedly according to some sources, he worked for the SB, but it makes no scence since he helped destroy the old communist regime. So yea...


Unless you crush communism and get a flat for cooperation in a one shot. Anyway if you would follow closely what IPN wrote you would know that Walesa had shiny and dark days. No One Denies that... Biggest problem with Walesa was fact that fear of deconspiration put him under influence of bad guys way after 1989.



As for IPN, they maybe are flawed in the sense they are Polish Remembrance Institute. But they don't print any paper unless matter is heavily documented and investigated. They aren't ordinary historicians. IPN have prosecutor status so most of the investigations is made CSI style. With more than elaborate evidence. In case of crimes this cases are sent to court.

Walesa, maybe except destroying evidence(archives) didn't commit any crime though.