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Calanen
09-04-2008, 07:30 PM
MK Eldad: “Time to Stop Jihadist Islam in Europe”


by Yoni Kempinski


(IsraelNN.com) Knesset Member Aryeh Eldad held a press conference on Wednesday announcing a first-of-its-kind summit in Jerusalem for the establishment of a defensive coalition of European legislators.


“I believe that it's time to look reality in the eye, not to lower our eyes, not to be afraid of the reality,” declared Eldad. “As a physician, I can tell you that a patient who denies the disease is doomed.”

Europe must stand and stop it. It's time, it’s almost the last moment to stop the Jihadist Islam in Europe

The new coalition will be geared towards those European Parliament members who believe that the expansion of Islam poses a severe threat to Western civilization.

Eldad said that there is a growing understanding in Europe that even though most of the governments surrender to the political power of the Muslim immigration, “Europe must stand and stop it. It's time, it’s almost the last possible moment, to stop Jihadist Islam in Europe.”
Regarding the planned summit, MK Eldad announced that it will take place on December 14th and 15th.

“[Attendees] will announce the creation of the alliance,” Eldad explained, ”and they will read the Jerusalem Declaration here. It will be a two-part meeting, the first one will be the practical part. The legislators will work on various laws and bills for which the drafts are being disseminated now in Europe, and work [is underway] among these parties. And the second day will be the educational day.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/127488

Gunbird
09-04-2008, 08:23 PM
What are they going to do? Ban Muslims from existing in their countries?

Even if you stop immigration, those remaining will still retain their identities, and they will still make babies, and so on.

Their end goal is futile, and non-pracrical. Amusing.

domokun
09-04-2008, 08:29 PM
Interesting post.

That Israeli parlamentarist has point. I don't think that European govs take this issue as seriously as they should.

Moledet
09-04-2008, 08:39 PM
An Arab knesset member said Eldad is turning to the birthplace of Nazism (Europe's right wing).

P.S. right wing group wish to have a demonstration in an Arab city, the police denied them and they appealed to the Supreme court and it ruled that the police must allow them to demonstrate there and needs to find a solution to guarantee their safety.

Mu-Meson
09-04-2008, 10:36 PM
What are they going to do? Ban Muslims from existing in their countries?

Even if you stop immigration, those remaining will still retain their identities, and they will still make babies, and so on.

Their end goal is futile, and non-pracrical. Amusing.

So what do you suggest? I guess you advocate surrender. Well, you have that in common with most European politicians at least.

kahn267
09-05-2008, 03:48 AM
meh
its only going to be a matter of time before the Muslims become a majority and **** crumbles like Lebanon did when Muslims became the majority. Once that is in place what kind of voting will occur and in who's favour?

Then I'll pack up my bags and flee to Israel or the US

Calanen
09-05-2008, 04:44 AM
http://www.topnews.in/tehran-demands-eu-halt-anti-islam-congress-planned-germany-264546

Tehran demands EU halt anti-Islam congress planned in Germany
Submitted by Sahil Nagpal (http://www.topnews.in/user/sahil-nagpal) on Thu, 09/04/2008 - 12:54.



Tehran/Berlin - The Iranian Foreign Ministry called in the French charge d'affaires in Tehran Wednesday to demand that the European Union (EU) prevent the holding of an "anti-Islam congress" planned for the German city of Cologne later this month.

The Foreign Ministry voiced concern about what it called the "growing anti-Islam trend" in Europe, appealing to the current French presidency of the EU to act, the official news agency IRNA reported.

IRNA reported that the French diplomat had condemned all forms of racism, pledging that the Iranian request would be followed up and Tehran would be kept informed about the congress.

The congress has been called by the right-wing, Cologne-based, activist group Pro-Cologne, which last month failed in its attempts to halt the building of a large mosque in the western German city.

Pro-Cologne has called a three-day anti-Islam congress for September 19-21, drawing support from the right-wing Freedom Party of Austria (FPOe) and the Belgian-Flemish right-wing Vlaams Belang Party, as well as prominent French right-winger Jean-Marie Le Pen, founder of the Front National (FN).

"The time has come to draw the line: Europe and Germany say 'no' to Islamification and immigrant invasion," the organization proclaims in German, French, Italian and English in advertising the congress on its website.

The congress, which culminates in a mass rally on Cologne's Haymarket square on September 20, is aimed at promoting "Western values and Christian traditions." Le Pen is expected to speak.

Pro-Cologne uses as its logo a mosque with a red line drawn through it in the shape of a traffic sign.

Left-wing groups have called counter-demonstrations to coincide with the rally.

The Interior Ministry of the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia, within which Cologne falls, said it had looked into banning the congress, but had come to the conclusion that there were insufficient grounds to do so.

The German constitution gave strong protection to freedom of assembly, Interior Ministry spokeswoman Carola Holzberg said.

Holzberg said pro-Köln had informed police they were expecting around 1,000 supporters to attend the September 20 rally.
Police are expecting up to 40,000 to protest against the congress.

On August 28, the Cologne City Council gave the go-ahead for a controversial mosque with a dome 37 metres high and two minarets rising to 55 metres to be built in the suburb of Ehrenfeld. (dpa)

Aryan_Singh
09-05-2008, 05:19 AM
If muslims want to live in Europe then they should accept european condisions

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-05-2008, 05:27 AM
If muslims want to live in Europe then they should accept european condisionsI think this should apply to all, its not just muslims that refuse to conform to European norms.

Calanen
09-05-2008, 05:30 AM
I think this should apply to all, its not just muslims that refuse to conform to European norms.

Yeah those terrorist Budhists and methodists have really caused a lot of grief too.

Every religion has its crazies remember! And what about the Bible!

Mr Gently Benevolent
09-05-2008, 05:34 AM
Yeah those terrorist Budhists and methodists have really caused a lot of grief too.

Every religion has its crazies remember! And what about the Bible!Nah I was thinking about the beating and chaining up of runaway Indian brides.

Calanen
09-05-2008, 05:46 AM
And what about the environment huh? People who dont look after the environment are also not welcome in the new EU!

Ok, there are loads of bad people around..let's get back on topic.

D4ark
09-05-2008, 06:50 AM
What can u do about it?Mass Murders of muslim People in europe?Send them to torture camps?(just like what the nazis did to jews)OR u could just stop them from going into europe.Name 1 Muslim Country which started a movement of Anti-Christianity

BTW IM A A MUSLIM

Player
09-05-2008, 06:50 AM
MK Eldad and his protesters should worry more about Israel's weak and failed policy regarding this issue before sticking their nose in foreign affairs.

Vympel
09-05-2008, 07:52 AM
What can u do about it?Mass Murders of muslim People in europe?Send them to torture camps?(just like what the nazis did to jews)OR u could just stop them from going into europe.Name 1 Muslim Country which started a movement of Anti-Christianity

BTW IM A A MUSLIM

It's just muslimphobia. Don't take it serious mate

Calanen
09-05-2008, 07:57 AM
It's just muslimphobia. Don't take it serious mate

What makes the term 'Islamophobia' so amusing is that it was a strategy the islamic world has adapted and adopted from the Gay Lobby, who invented the term 'homophobia' and successfully marketed it. Who says Islam can't learn something from homo******s hey?

The term 'Islamaphobia' is just more obfuscation designed to avoid discussing the problems of Islam on the merits (which Islam could never win in an open and honest debate), and instead deflect the many reasons to legitimately criticise Islam and its manifestations in Europe back onto any who dare notice it as a problem. The problem is then you for noticing, not anything that Islam has to change.

RWR
09-05-2008, 03:16 PM
:roll:

Amusing.

Calling European muslims a disease.

People that were just 50 years ago vicitms of this kind of reasoning are now organizing such events.

Another take.


“I believe that it's time to look reality in the eye, not to lower our eyes, not to be afraid of the reality,” declared Hans. “As a physician, I can tell you that a patient who denies the disease is doomed.”

Europe must stand and stop it. It's time, it’s almost the last moment to stop the Jews in Europe.

The new coalition will be geared towards those Reichstag members who believe that the expansion of Judaisam poses a severe threat to Western and German civilization.

Hans said that there is a growing understanding in Europe that even though most of the governments surrender to the political power of the Jewish capital, “Europe must stand and stop it. It's time, it’s almost the last possible moment, to stop Jews in Europe.”

Calanen
09-05-2008, 11:21 PM
Play the Nazi Card ...yawn.

Lazy Lob
09-06-2008, 03:20 AM
Name 1 Muslim Country which started a movement of Anti-Christianity

Saudi.


The Real War on Christmas: Being a Christian can be deadly

National Review Online

December 19, 2005
by Nina Shea

Christmas is a time of joy for Christians and, for multitudes around the world, a time of suffering. Last Wednesday, under the auspices of Senator Rick Santorum and the Congressional Working Group on Religious Freedom that he cochairs with Congressman Roy Blunt, some of the world's foremost defenders of persecuted Christians gathered in the U.S. Capitol to draw attention to this suffering.

Over Christmas 2000 in Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim country and one traditionally renowned for its religious toleration, terrorists bombed churches in 18 cities, killing scores and wounding hundreds. At Wednesday's forum, Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver observed that "violence against the Christian minority has steadily continued over the past decade." As an example, he cited the beheadings of three Christian teenage girls in Sulawesi in late October. International Christian Concern's Jeff King brought photos of the incident; the girls' heads were left at a church, each with a note that vowed, "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

Last Christmas in Iraq, St. John's Church near Mosul was attacked. Assyrian cultural expert Eden Naby described the scene: "The Mass begins. It is cold inside the stone church. Suddenly you hear automatic fire. The doors fly open. The Christian guards are shot, and in march armed Kurdish Peshmarga who shoot up the church, beat up the priest and drive the parishioners cowering home." In prior months, other churches in southern Iraq had been bombed by Islamic militants, some during worship services. Though the terror came from two different sources, in each case the purpose was the same — to intimidate and force out the ancient Chaldo Assyrian Christian community.

In Saudi Arabia, Christians, a large percentage of the foreign workers making up a quarter of the population, will not be able to find any churches whatsoever to worship in this Christmas — churches are forbidden. Dozens of those who pray together in private houses were arrested and jailed earlier this year. This fanatically intolerant kingdom even forbids Muslims, under threat of death, to wish a Christian "Happy Holidays," much less "Merry Christmas."

Christians face similar repression in Iran. Episcopal priest, Rev. Keith Roderick, representing Christian Solidarity International, reported that as the Christmas season got underway around the world last month, Tehran's tyrannical President Ahmadinejad met with 30 provincial governors and reportedly declared, "I will stop Christianity in this country," avowing to shut down the country's growing house-church movement.

Egypt had been a place of refuge for the Holy Family fleeing Herod's wrath. Today, however, Christians are fleeing Egypt itself. As Fr. Roderick attested, Christians are treated as "second-class citizens" under state-sponsored discrimination and actively persecuted by Islamic militants apart from the government. He cited the week-long riot in October against St. George's Coptic Church in Alexandria by a 10,000-strong mob incensed by rumors of blasphemy.

Christians in Pakistan will be wise to keep their Christmas celebrations low-key this year. One of them, Yousaf Masih, a 60-year-old illiterate janitor from northwestern Pakistan, is among those under arrest for "blasphemy" because he allegedly burned a Koran. As Paul Marshall of the Center for Religious Freedom recounted, three weeks ago in Sangala Hill, after word of his case got out, mobs destroyed three churches, a convent, a Christian school, and Christian homes. Last week a militant mob rallied to demand Masih's public hanging and the eradication of the entire Christian community there.

And while China manufactures and exports Christmas lights and ornaments, it arrests and imprisons Christians who lead worship services, preach, or minister without state approval. Richard Land, director of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, gave as an example Catholic Bishop James Su Zhimin of Hebei, who on December 25 will be observing his 27th Christmas in confinement. Cai Zhuohua, a Protestant pastor in Beijing, was sentenced in early November to three years in the gulag, or laogai as it's called in China, for printing and distributing Bibles. His defense lawyer, the prominent civil rights attorney Gao Zhisheng, also a Christian, has been disbarred and now worries he may become his own next client.

Christmas has been banned in North Korea for half a century. Land reported on a new study conducted by the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom — "Thank you, Father Kim Il Sung" — based on dozens of in-depth interviews with North Korean escapees. All of them said that there is absolutely no freedom of thought, conscience or belief in North Korea. All report, in fact, that such liberties are explicitly and actively prohibited. None had ever seen churches in North Korea. Most did not know of the three state-controlled churches in Pyongyang, the country's only churches. None of the interviewees was aware of any authorized religious activity inside North Korea. Two interviewees provided graphic and detailed eyewitness testimony of the summary executions of individuals accused of engaging in unauthorized religious activities. Another interviewee said that her brother was executed for involvement in such activities. One additional interviewee had heard of executions of North Koreans involved in unauthorized religious activities, and, as a police official, had been involved in two separate cases resulting in the arrest of eleven individuals accused of involvement in such religious activities. Of the eleven arrested, two died during interrogation; the interviewee believed that the other nine had been executed. Others mentioned executions they had heard about but had not witnessed themselves.

Vietnam, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, India, Cuba, Eritrea, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan were also among the countries cited for violent anti-Christian persecution. And, as the panelists remarked, this list could be extended.

One mark of hope for genuine religious freedom was offered by Marshall at the forum's conclusion. He noted that,this Christmas, many churches in Indonesia will be surrounded by the uniformed Muslim Banser group, a wing of Nahdlatul Ulama, the world's largest Muslim organization. The Bansers will not be there to attack the churches but to help protect them from extremists, to prevent any reprise of the Christmas 2000 bombings. Nahdlatul Ulama has done this for several years, in cooperation with the police and the Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist communities.

Christmas is a time of great suffering for these communities. But as these persecuted Christians commemorate the birth of Jesus from their jail cells, within their house churches, or silently in their hearts, it is also a time of joy. For them, truly, the hopes and fears of all the years are met in thee tonight.

http://crf.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=publication_details&id=4537&pubType=CRF_Articles

Macs.
09-06-2008, 07:03 AM
meh
its only going to be a matter of time before the Muslims become a majority and **** crumbles like Lebanon did when Muslims became the majority. Once that is in place what kind of voting will occur and in who's favour?

Then I'll pack up my bags and flee to Israel or the US

You are a real joker.

In Israel the muslim population makes up 16%. In the EU it makes up 5 to 7%.

Gunbird
09-06-2008, 04:21 PM
Play the Nazi Card ...yawn.

It's a good card to play.

You haven't suggested solutions because you know they all contradict with history, and call into question western ideas of liberal democracy. You know there are NO real solutions, apart from violent solutions. Those solutions you can imagine are are all primed to break your legs from right under you, leaving you nothing to stand on. You know doing so will turn you into the very thing you think you are against.

You're yawning because your hand is empty.

Calanen
09-06-2008, 06:39 PM
You're yawning because your hand is empty.


No, just because there is no point saying the same stuff I've been saying in a million threads to someone who clearly is a goose.

Lazy Lob
09-06-2008, 06:59 PM
It's a good card to play.

Whaaaaaaat?

Calanen
09-06-2008, 11:02 PM
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aed1980
09-06-2008, 11:10 PM
It's just muslimphobia. Don't take it serious mate

No, its not muslimphobia, its an anti-jihadist or anti-radical islam summit.
On the other hand one cant deny that today terrorist are mostly muslims.