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KB
09-04-2008, 09:37 PM
GOP recognition of SEALs broke deal with Navy

By Philip Ewing - Staff writer
Posted : Thursday Sep 4, 2008 18:45:08 EDT

A Republican speaker broke a deal between the GOP and the Navy when he publicly recognized a pair of Navy special operators at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday, a Navy spokesman said, causing the sailors to violate regulations against active-duty service members participating in politics.

The speaker, Orson Swindle, pointed out two Navy SEALs in the audience wearing civilian clothes at the convention in St. Paul, Minn., as part of a salute to the fallen SEAL Master at Arms 2nd Class Michael Monsoor, who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor in April. The two SEALs, Lt. Leif Babin and Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Tom Deshazo, rose when Swindle pointed them out and asked them to stand.

But the Republicans had agreed not to identify the special operators as a condition for their being able to attend the convention, said Navy spokesman Cmdr. Jeff Davis. Babin and Deshazo had asked for permission to accompany Monsoor’s sister, Sara, who was at the GOP convention to see her brother’s recognition. The Navy agreed, but imposed several conditions, including that they only attend the convention that one night, not speak to the news media, wear civilian clothes and not appear on stage.

Swindle, a former Marine prisoner of war, deviated from the script on his TelePrompTer when he pointed out the two SEALs, Davis said, in an apparent ad-lib. Election-year rules forbid active-duty service members from appearing to support or oppose political candidates, and the Navy wanted an “abundance of caution” to ensure it didn’t appear the SEALs were backing the Republicans, Davis said.

There will probably be no repercussions for the SEALs or the GOP, he said.

The special operators were Monsoor’s teammates — they were with him the day he smothered a grenade in Iraq and later died, Davis said — and have accompanied Sara Monsoor to several events honoring her brother, including the White House ceremony at which their parents accepted his medal from President Bush.

Special operators tend to be highly cautious about their identities. They seldom agree to be quoted by name in news stories and their faces are often blurred in official Navy photographs, but in this case, security concerns were less an issue than the political guidelines, Davis said.

GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain’s two sons, one of whom is an active-duty Marine and one of whom is a Naval Academy midshipmen, also have similar Navy Department guidelines for their appearance Thursday at the GOP convention. They were given permission to appear in a biographical video in civilian clothes, but they may not introduce their father or give the impression that the Navy or the Marine Corps supports his candidacy.

A GOP spokeswoman did not immediately return a request for comment.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2008/09/navy_gop_seals_090308w/

Winger
09-04-2008, 10:37 PM
The speaker, Swindle, a Marine, was a former POW with John McCain. I wonder if he knew about the agreement?

Fireball Sanchez
09-04-2008, 11:03 PM
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Power_serj
09-04-2008, 11:18 PM
Maybe if he wasn't an officer and wasn't special operations it wouldn't have been a big deal, but he screwed up on that one.

Ordie
09-05-2008, 01:06 AM
I'm not surprised.

If the GOP is able to compromise the identity of a CIA Agent in the White House, they are capable of anything.

James
09-05-2008, 01:31 AM
Palin identified her own son who is n the army. Is this also taboo?

Solomin
09-05-2008, 01:36 AM
I'm not surprised.

If the GOP is able to compromise the identity of a CIA Agent in the White House, they are capable of anything.

She was not a member of the clandestine service. No different than naming a postal worker.

Zoomie
09-05-2008, 08:18 AM
I'm not surprised.

If the GOP is able to compromise the identity of a CIA Agent in the White House, they are capable of anything.
She outed herself. If she was truly afraid of her safety, then why would she do a photoshoot for a national magazine?

sir-chimp
09-05-2008, 08:51 AM
I'm not surprised.

If the GOP is able to compromise the identity of a CIA Agent in the White House, they are capable of anything.

oh yes that valiant victim in the shadows Valerie Plame

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3766/poar01plame0401sr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

give me a f_ucking break

helomech
09-05-2008, 09:14 AM
She was not a member of the clandestine service. No different than naming a postal worker.


But she was trained as a case officer,then again she may have been one of those who are utterly useless when it comes to their job description too;
I'm sure there are many who work for that goverment agency or other agencies who have no idea of what their job is but know the right people at the right levels,to move up

Bob Novak was definitely wrong in publishing her name,but I don't feel sorry for her,her husband is a former ambassador sofor her to next to the spotlight was just a matter of time-maybe she was waiting for it,who knows

deagle
09-05-2008, 09:58 AM
don't they follow rules (especially their own) ? lol

Jobu
09-05-2008, 12:02 PM
Her husband was sent to Niger to see if he could learn anything about uranium exports to Iraq while Valerie drove in and out of Langley every day in plain sight. Gee, I wonder who she worked for?

LoboCanada
09-05-2008, 01:55 PM
I don't want to impersonate a MOD but keep it on topic please.

Lefty
09-06-2008, 02:37 AM
I felt the presentation was kind of tasteless considering the time and place. I really felt they were not so much showcasing this Sailor's bravery to illustrate the dedication and sacrifice of our service members, rather a giant ad for "hey look, we really support the troops, and there are some badass Republicans out there." If those were his wishes, then good for him and I acknowledge that, just I don't think I would want any political rally to put me up on a screen as a symbol of their values.

just my .01

philbob
09-06-2008, 04:36 PM
so Why couldnt McCains kids talk abot his father but Bidens Son could?

Bia
09-06-2008, 05:08 PM
so Why couldnt McCains kids talk abot his father but Bidens Son could?
Not in uniform... is the deal.