M1 Super Sherman

[snapper]

The Super Sherman (http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=834)

[MARINO]

It was only uesd by IDF, am i right?

[snapper]

Think so but if im wrong im sure somebody will correct me :D

[Javehn]

It was made by France and used by IDF .

[Operation Ivy]

Go Sherman! woot

[thatguy96]

It was made by France and used by IDF .
The M1s were supplied by the French (and from most accounts simply sound like M4A3E8 type Shermans (76.2mm M1 and HVSS). The M50 and M51 super-Shermans were entirely Israeli creations (though they got the parts from numerous places). The M51 is probably the most interesting of the lot, with an 105mm FN CN "D" (a CN chopped down so that it wouldn't unbalance the tank), an completely different engine (diesal as 'opposed to gas or vice versa, I can't remember which), HVSS, and a slightly modded turret. Was holding its own against T-62s. I believe some of various models of Super-Shermans were passed onto the Chileans after the Israelis finally phased them out.

[Javehn]

Yea , that one . Nice israeli-weapons reading :) ;)

[MARINO]

Nice to learn something new and interesting. I love israeli warfare inventions.

[Mark_Aspen]

Don't know if they count, but we gave some to Major Haddad's South Lebanese Army between Mivtzah Litani (1978) and Shalom HaGalil (1982). Maybe Hezbulloh has some still.

Check out this guys website about the Israeli Armour Museum at Latrun:
http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/Armor_Main.htm

They told us the cannon (on the Super Sherman) was a French copy of the the German PAk 75 gun; high velocity.

M-50
http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/images/IL_Armor134.jpg

M-51
http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/images/IL_Armor140.jpg

Panzer IV via Syria.
http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/images/IL_Armor187.jpg

[snapper]

Hey nice pics :P

[MARINO]

I've read that Israeli Air force, had their beginnings has some Me109, is that true?

[/McH\]

I've read that Israeli Air force, had their beginnings has some Me109, is that true?

hmm..

http://www.xs4all.nl/~tozu/me109/foreign/109-Israel.htm

[snapper]

Me109? err Super sherman thread dude. :roll:

[ZeroPositive]

only seen that tank in model photos :)
thanks
Yeah u Israeli's come up with some seriously cool boys toys :)
from ur tanks to other weapons, reminds me it is like seeing a Mad PC game/manga movie in action, no offence intended.

Very cool.

[MARINO]

I've read that Israeli Air force, had their beginnings has some Me109, is that true?

hmm..

http://www.xs4all.nl/~tozu/me109/foreign/109-Israel.htm

Thanks IDF history is really interesting.
Isralis with Nazi aircrafts.

[Uncle Chô]

Thanks IDF history is really interesting.
Isralis with Nazi aircrafts.
:| Please, do not mix up...

Concentration camps / extermination = Nazi

Bf109 = German Air Force - military hardware like everywhere in the world

[MARINO]

Thanks IDF history is really interesting.
Isralis with Nazi aircrafts.
:| Please, do not mix up...

Concentration camps / extermination = Nazi

Bf109 = German Air Force - military hardware like everywhere in the world
Israelis with Luftwaffe aircrafts :)

[chisco2]

http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/images/IL_Armor187.jpg

These tanks were served by the spanish army, weren't they? That was an arabian (i think Sirian) Panzer IV and a Stug III taken by the Israel forces during six days war, I think.

[REMOV]

I've read that Israeli Air force, had their beginnings has some Me109, is that true?No. Israelis used the Czechoslovakian Avia S-199 fighters which basically were copie of German Me-109's with different also German engine. But they were built in Czechoslovakia not in 3rd Reich.

[bloddyaxe]

Didn't the Israeli Messerschmids use the Junkers Jumo engine, the same as in the He 111. Or a copy of it.

[MARINO]

I've read that Israeli Air force, had their beginnings has some Me109, is that true?No. Israelis used the Czechoslovakian Avia S-199 fighters which basically were copie of German Me-109's with different also German engine. But they were built in Czechoslovakia not in 3rd Reich.

Yes that's what i read, but it sound strange to me. All those things are really interesting, for example thise Panzer IV was sold by Germany to Spain, we have them in use until 195's and the we sold it to Siria, and now they are into a Israli museum.

[Lobo]

Some M51 ended in Chile.

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/rch.htm

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Shermans in Iraq

from http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/iran.htm

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/images/iran_m36_tikrit_2.jpg

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/images/iran_m36_tikrit_1.jpg

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/images/iraq_m50_tikrit_2.jpg

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/images/iran_m36_tikrit_4.jpg

Also saw some pics of the Churchill, but can't find them right now.

[thatguy96]

That last pic looks like an M36 Jackson TD

[Raistlin]

:| Please, do not mix up...

Concentration camps / extermination = Nazi

Bf109 = German Air Force - military hardware like everywhere in the world
Well, there's still a reason for why Israel won't use H&K MP5 and the diplomats won't ride in Mercedez... Or so I heard.