How some people behave in here...

[Ichhabe]

Like most of you guys in here, I stumbled over this site almost by accident.

I came in here, around september/october last year.

My first impression was; WOW!!! A lot of cool pics of soldiers in service. Neatly put together in albums at ONE SITE. The end of random searching was over. Now I could go to one single url and find it all.

And, HEY?? A forum as well. Were ppl could debate and lay out their comments. Not bad I thought.

As a soldier (from time to time.) and that I'm interested in politics, and history in general I find almost all aspects of soldiering and battles and all the stuff around it very very interesting. It may be from the time the first stone was thrown in anger and up t'ill todays "sci-fi"-battles.

That is why I instantly felt at home. And the owner of this website seemed not to be a an idiot. (Still have'nt proven yet.) So I was quite comfy in here.

After some time, I've understood that Hood would like to have some pictures taken by soldiers, so I humbly asked if I could submitt some. And he was happy if I could do so. I sent in some, and have my own album here. Sorry to say, I'm no SF-soldier, due to the fact that the main interest in here is in that path.

But now to the reason of this post; Some ppl in here behave like they are the king of the world. Yes! Some in here try to pose like they are real operators. Some try to give the impression that they know much about different stuff.

At some time, these ppl will give them self away. They cannot help it. A good liar gotta have a quite good remembrance. I for myself, pick out this ppl quite fast AND just ignore them.

Then there are some that give away some information that is not quite correct.
They may forget some info, or mix it a little together.
The vultures and hyenas are never far away. They are being jumped on, and literally torned to pieces.They also will be told what kind of bodyparts they are.

Why can't you talk and debate in civil manners? You, whom I'm refering too, know who you are. I wont mention names, but you make this site not very pleasent.

Some of you in here have learned that I ain't in love with US-foreign policy. Some of you know that I feel that Rumsfeld is the most dangerous man on the planet as we speak.
That does'nt deserve that I should be slammed to the ground as Anti-American. Does it? And that some ppl misspell or mix weapons a itsy bitsy bit, does not deserve to get a crusade on their neck. If you want to let off steam, shout in a bucket before replying in here. Then you will see that the atmosphere would be nice and breathable in here.

Do not destroy this excellent forum, and picture gallery by using bad and insulting language.

(For your information; I'm from a part of my country that use quite harsh language, so I do not get offended to easy. But I belive that one does'nt need to pull of both barrels in a discussion.)

[gregb]

Lucky you arent the Moderator of this site as you would probably have everyone BANNED by now.This is a PUBLIC forum for discussion , You get good posts and you get bad.
Thats life.

P.S you werent by any chance a member of the BORG race?

[Mortimer]

Its an uphill battle Ichhabe.....i sometiems wonder why i try....

[GazB]

Hey, if someone doesn't have a valid defence or sensible opposing view, it doesn't bother me if they want to insult or degrade the person they are talking to. In cards it is called "I fold". Calling someone who isn't American "Anti-American" isn't actually an insult, just like calling an American "Anti-French" is often these days taken as a compliment.

A bit like Billy Connoly and his arsehole detector clothing. A nice flowery broach, or floral trousers. The arseholes will immediately give themselves away with their lack of self control and quick jumps to a judgement.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

A bit like Billy Connoly and his arsehole detector clothing. A nice flowery broach, or floral trousers. The arseholes will immediately give themselves away with their lack of self control and quick jumps to a judgement.

And for you gaz b, that was the 'best sniper rifle topic'

Itchabe, as gregb stated, this is a public forum. Just like any other public place, if you air your views and someone disagrees with you they have the right to tell you. If you don't like either whats being said or how it's said perhaps you need to look at yourself. Sure some people on this forum have a hair trigger and get sarcastic and cynical. So what?. I reckon that happens in just about any public place where Military/political issues get 'discussed'. I've found in my short time here that most people who end up getting thrashed for their views are those who make definitive statements with little or know evidence or apparent experience to back them up. Even when presented with a 'valid defense or sensible opposing veiw', these pers still tend to harp on, attempting pass off their opinions as fact. If books, movies or magazines are your sole experience with the topic you are talking about then perhaps you should think before posting.
Or better yet ASK. Again i've noted most of those who get thrashed here almost never ask, they just make statements.

The good thing about public places(forums) is that your always free to leave.

[Saranof]

But what he says is true...this forum, from what I have seen, is full of armchair generals.
Not to bad, but when they start debating tiny details on weapons, it just looks pathetic

[Seiyuuki]

For unknown reason, some people just get real passionate about topic too.

[18C4V]

But what he says is true...this forum, from what I have seen, is full of armchair generals.
Not to bad, but when they start debating tiny details on weapons, it just looks pathetic

I agree with that. Not too many BTDT. But hey the pics are pretty cool.

[Saranof]

But what he says is true...this forum, from what I have seen, is full of armchair generals.
Not to bad, but when they start debating tiny details on weapons, it just looks pathetic

I agree with that. Not too many BTDT. But hey the pics are pretty cool.

Hooah that!

[digitalghost]

IF EVERYONE READ AND FOLLOWED EXACTLY WHAT THIS BOOK SAYS THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEMS:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671723650/qid=1058127631/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-0336705-0121547

As much as you think your post will affect and change the lives of some individuals it wont happen at 100%..... The moderators would just have to kick more ass and control every aspect of the chat-- That is the only way my brother

[James]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[GazB]

"IF EVERYONE READ AND FOLLOWED EXACTLY WHAT THIS BOOK SAYS THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEMS: "

I'm not here to win friends or influence people. Just here to talk and learn.

"And for you gaz b, that was the 'best sniper rifle topic'"

Actually I was thinking of you when I wrote it Ngati.

[digitalghost]

GazB: Read the bloody book then tell me--- hell i have it on microsoft word .doc format let me email it to you its 515kb

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

"And for you gaz b, that was the 'best sniper rifle topic'"

Actually I was thinking of you when I wrote it Ngati.

I'm touched. But you've proven your lack of selfcontrol and quick jumps to judgement in that very statement. By infering that i'm an arsehole (from a safe distance of course) you show that you unable to talk or debate in a civil manner, ironically the very crux of Itchabes original post.

Amusing.

[GazB]

"By infering that i'm an arsehole (from a safe distance of course) you show that you unable to talk or debate in a civil manner, ironically the very crux of Itchabes original post.

Amusing."

Interesting inference, though if your logic hold true I could say the same about you as you said:

"The arseholes will immediately give themselves away with their lack of self control and quick jumps to a judgement.

And for you gaz b, that was the 'best sniper rifle topic' "

First. Also from a nice safe distance.

"But you've proven your lack of selfcontrol and quick jumps to judgement in that very statement."

It wasn't a quick jump to judgment... I've grown to be annoyed by you. For someone who claims first hand knowledge of something that is of interest here you seem to prefer to spend your time pouring scorn on those who have learnt what they know by other means.
Such potential for interest ruined by a juvenile attitude. Still aggression is useful in your line of work I suppose.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

It wasn't a quick jump to judgment... I've grown to be annoyed by you.

Aw, whasamatta gazb?, is da big bad Ngati getting to ya.Aw didums.

Such potential for interest ruined by a juvenile attitude. :cantbeli:

For someone who claims first hand knowledge of something that is of interest here you seem to prefer to spend your time pouring scorn on those who have learnt what they know by other means.

C'mon gazb, why are you still thrashing that dead horse?. I gave you the best opportunity to learn by a means other than that which you apparently prefer and you turned me down, several times.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. But wait........that would mean you'd have to admit you were wrong. Nah your right, probably best if you don't.

Why can't you talk and debate in civil manners?

A bit like Billy Connoly and his arsehole detector clothing. A nice flowery broach, or floral trousers. The arseholes will immediately give themselves away with their lack of self control and quick jumps to a judgement.

Do not destroy this excellent forum, and picture gallery by using bad and insulting language.

A bit like Billy Connoly and his arsehole detector clothing. A nice flowery broach, or floral trousers. The arseholes will immediately give themselves away with their lack of self control and quick jumps to a judgement.

Keep digging sunshine, not far to go.

Still aggression is useful in your line of work I suppose. :hug:

[GazB]

Posted:
"Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:48 pm"

"But wait........that would mean you'd have to admit you were wrong. Nah your right, probably best if you don't. "

But then if I never admit I am wrong how could I have posted this:

""Wrong. New Zealand troops deployed to Afghanistan in late November 2001. They were sent as a result of our governments direct support of US policies at the time."

OOps quite right. I was thinking of the group Helen is going to send to Iraq."

Posted: "Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 6:26 pm"

Hmmm, an admission I got something wrong 22 minutes before you say I never do... interesting,"...but what does it all mean Basil?"

"Do not destroy this excellent forum, and picture gallery by using bad and insulting language."

If this forum can stand Dukes little tantrums I am sure it can survive me. BTW it is Billy Connely that calls them Ahole detectors. I would not use such inappropriate language to describe those I don't particularly like, but the concept behind it is both sound and useful.

[Andyman]

Hey Guys guess what!!!! Know I know that many people here think that the Canadian Military is a joke but I got accepted to the infantry reserves out of Toronto and am happy to announce that I begin basic training in October. I am so excited woot

[[AFSOC]]

GOOD JOB ANDY

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

If this forum can stand Dukes little tantrums I am sure it can survive me. BTW it is Billy Connely that calls them Ahole detectors. I would not use such inappropriate language to describe those I don't particularly like, but the concept behind it is both sound and useful.

Aw gaz, just as you were on such a roll.......

A bit like Billy Connoly and his arsehole detector clothing. A nice flowery broach, or floral trousers. The arseholes will immediately give themselves away with their lack of self control and quick jumps to a judgement

Actually I was thinking of you when I wrote it Ngati. :cantbeli:


If you posted it, then you used it. rofl

[He219]

GazB wrote:
But then if I never admit I am wrong how could I have posted this:


[The Taliban] didn't come to power in the midst of a vaccuum, they took it from the communist government the Russians installed when they left in 89.....

When the Soviets pulled out they continued to prop up their puppet government which remained in power till about 94....

The Islamic council of Afghanistan was largely the Northern Alliance (ie Massoud) an a few other smaller groups who received most of their income from Moscow...

MOA is most important to people who aren't going out on missions

I guess the Wright Brothers can't have been the first to fly a heavier than air aircraft...

To suggest that the 6.5mm Arisaka round wasn't an intermediate power cartridge is rubbish.....

The Federov Avtomat is...an assault rifle...


In cards it is called "I fold".

spier wrote:

Hm, I don't feel like reading up on the ****hole known as Africa right now so I'll have to use other examples


Ichhabe wrote:

Some of you in here have learned that I ain't in love with US-foreign policy. Some of you know that I feel that Rumsfeld is the most dangerous man on the planet as we speak. That does'nt deserve that I should be slammed to the ground as Anti-American

Mortimer wrote:

Its an uphill battle Ichhabe.....i sometiems wonder why i try...




The United States has championed the cause of Human Rights worldwide


BS!
What about the poor indonesians who work for such companies as Nike and other TNCs making $2US a week while you pay the corporate bosses millions of dollars to suck ****, you arrogant prick.

It's amazing how people still use 9-11 to justify American imperialism


im·pe·ri·al·ism ( P ) ****unciation (m-pîr-iah-lzm)
n.
The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations.
The system, policies, or practices of such a government.


he·gem·o·ny ( P ) ****unciation (h-jm-n, hj-mn)
n. pl. he·gem·o·nies
The predominant influence, as of a state, region, or group, over another or others.



Anti-Americanism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.


Anti-Americanism (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Americanism) is strong disapproval or even hatred for the United States of America, its government, people, or its "way of life". A number of different attitudes may underlie such sentiment, such as political (anti-imperialism), economic (anti-capitalism), religious (anti-Christian, or anti-secular), cultural (anti-Hollywood), or ethical (anti-"Western decadence"). It can be harbored by Americans themselves or by non-Americans.

Mere opposition to American policies and attitudes in any or all of these categories, is not sufficient to constitute anti-Americanism. They become anti-Americanism when the individuals or peoples affected see them as so pervasive and unremitting as to threaten indigenous values.

Anti-Americanism can vary from mere dislike and disapproval of America, such as has been at times exhibited by many Europeans, to extreme violence, such as that shown by some terrorists. The causes of anti-Americanism vary widely, indeed anti-Americanism can be motivated by completely opposed points of view: for example, dislike of America because it is "overly religious", or because it is "overly secular and irreligious".


"It's quite easy to explain why America is unpopular in Europe. It's because you are rich, powerful and unbeatable. Everyone hates you if you are rich, powerful and unbeatable. A hundred years ago everyone hated the British Empire because it ruled the world. Now it is the turn of the Americans. It comes with the job. The only difference is that we British seemed to quite enjoy being disliked, whereas you Americans don't like it at all." (Malcolm Muggeridge, circa 1958)


Do not destroy this excellent forum, and picture gallery by using bad and insulting language.


I inclined to agree with you on that one, Ichhabe, and admit that I too am guilty of 'whipping up' the leftists (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leftist)with provocative retort.

;)
He219

[spier]

I inclined to agree with you on that one, Ichhabe, and admit that I too am guilty of 'whipping up' the leftists with provocative retort. Oh yes, those horrible "Leftists". Too bad that even with your wikipedia entry, you do not know what a leftist is. Note for further understanding: Conservatives are not always complete ****ing idiots, and telling the truth does not instantly make you "leftist".

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Define 'THE' truth spier.

[Phantom]

back to the topic, i se people being teared apart, usually for good reason. no-one likes a know-it-all, a faker, or someone on a high horse. same goes for wannabe's. this wannabe's need to realise that the only thing that really gives you a respectful amount of knowledge in the area's covered in this forum are no bull**** and time/experience in seeing this information and being able to weed out that bull****

[hood]

Ichbabe's post says everything that I feel also. One thing I've learned about internet forums and events, is that the first people to see it and join are hardcore users who are usually very mature and have a great deal of interest in the topic at hand. Then as time goes on all of the other people who are only vaguely interested jump on. The last set are the people who just go around on the internet being annoying which we've had a few of in the recent past, where pissing people off is a form of sick entertainment. What's important to remember is that although this is a public forum, it doesn't mean that chaos reigns. I've been rather lax in the past about people who attack others in here because it wasn't anything serious. Things have changed over time however, and these attacks have now included threats of physical harm. Specialoperations.com's forums are probably the most strict in terms of keeping people out who don't follow their rules, which I'm not interested in. I am however putting a lot of thought into the best way of keeping things civil in here as that's the kind of place I want this to be.

[Royal]

Hood,

Thank you. :D

[a. enders]

This may have been covered but I was too lazy to read all the posts and I wanted to make my statement and yadda blah.

So becuase I hate that Hollywood makes crappy movies now I'm anti-American?Wow.That's a compliment if it's about movies,y'know.I hate most new Hollywood movies.Like,XXXXXXXXXX or whatever,or Bad Boys or The Faster and the Furiouser or countless other endless **** fests.

[digitalghost]

I think that if you see "negative vibes" in any messages or postings or topics just delete it-- simple as that-- make a "STICKY" rules page similar to SOCNET--- Have a no tolerance policy for verbal abuse/name calling/sarcasm/personal attacks/rudeness etc. so basically anyone who isnt the nicest people in teh world in here would get their messages and/or topics deleted--- just make sure you read everyones messages-- thats what i would do-- its all about control control control have a 100% political correctness attitude about it also ;)

[GazB]

Anal ( P ) ****unciation (Ay-nahl)
n.
The practise of going to extreme lengths to try (often unsuccessfully) to prove a point. Includes quoting out of context and excessive use of coloured fonts or referring to sources like Wikipedia, which sounds a little like the sort of book Chewbacca would use to do his homework with.

Just interesting to note:

"Anti-Americanism is strong disapproval or even hatred for the United States of America, its government, people, or its "way of life". A number of different attitudes may underlie such sentiment, such as political (anti-imperialism)"

Hmm hatred of America underlied by such sentiments as anti imperialism. Interesting that it suggests America is Imperialistic and that one reason to hate America is because you are politically anti imperialistic.

Guilty as charged if that is the score buddy. :lol:

[Phantom]

i completely disagree with you ghost. because if people would get there posts deleted so easily, if someone had a grudge against the person who started the topic, they could just come in and do something to get it closed.

use your head, or did your brain drop out of your ghosty head long ago

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

A bit like Billy Connoly and his arsehole detector clothing.

The practise of going to extreme lengths to try (often unsuccessfully) to prove a point.

I would not use such inappropriate language to describe those I don't particularly like, but the concept behind it is both sound and useful.

Actually I was thinking of you when I wrote it Ngati.

Anal ( P ) ****unciation (Ay-nahl)
n.


:lol:

[GazB]

Sad that someone with potantially useful and interesting information for the people this forum seems to be designed for wastes his time with posts like the one above.
Taxpayers money well spent.

You can continue if you like but I'm not going to waste the bandwidth.

[He219]

mortimer wrote:

Its an uphill battle Ichhabe.....i sometiems wonder why i try....



yeah lol i wish i was a Texan/American......... soooo baadd that way i can be really arrogant and think that i am soo damn good while f*** over the rest of the world!

Yeah and then i can make stupid posts like Merik and usa320 and Vance! you guys are sooo smart i envy you.

And then i can go to Texas and let GWB f*** me in the ass like Budanksi and seiyuuki the sexy parrot!

And budanski you Texas hick, yobbo, white trash piece of **** cowboy you just proved my point lol living in the same state as GWB i bet you'd cop it in the ass from him and his dad.

Mortimer, You are a serious Hypocrite!

[Piccolo]

I think that if you see "negative vibes" in any messages or postings or topics just delete it-- simple as that-- make a "STICKY" rules page similar to SOCNET--- Have a no tolerance policy for verbal abuse/name calling/sarcasm/personal attacks/rudeness etc. so basically anyone who isnt the nicest people in teh world in here would get their messages and/or topics deleted--- just make sure you read everyones messages-- thats what i would do-- its all about control control control have a 100% political correctness attitude about it also ;)

Sounds like you should change your name to Communist Ghost, buddy. A forum should be a nice place to go to, one where you don't have to worry about being ruled by a Iron Fist (Assuming your message is decent, and not a blatant flame). Being negative is something compleatly different, if you can't take alittle critisism then you don't belong.

Oh, and **** Political Correctness.