To Ariweiner

[Sayeret]

Ariweiner

Why are you on this site? This is militaryphotos.net and I think you have posted less stuff about the military than even Uninen. The only thing you have ever seem to post is pro-Islamic terrorist, anti-Israel, anti-America, and anti-Russia stuff and when people reply to your posts most your responses don't even make sense or are very disrespectful. You have called the Russians a
tyrannical imperialistic terrorist state .

Regarding the video in which a Russian civilian being tortured and beheaded you said:


Filthy Russian savages, you can see why they need to be exterminated from Chechnya.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10127&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

You compared the Israelis to Nazi


What? Why? Because a clear link between Israel and the Nazi's(identification of a particular group to single them out for different treatment) was made?

In another part of that thread you call the Israelis "thieves"

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16692&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=48



You have continually sent spam. (Articles you were the author of that people responded to and asked you questions yet you avoided them.) The main reason I want you banned is your utter disrespect to everyone on this forum including Argyll.

In this thread

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14661&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

you show disrespect towards Argyll by claiming that the Palestinian attack wasn’t a terrorist attack.


1. Be civil to your fellow forum user. They'll respect you if you respect them.

You clearly haven't done this by calling the Russians terrorists and the Israelis theives and criminals and comparing them to Nazis.



You have turned several threads into flame wars. Most recently you turned the thread “Mechanics of a Living Bomb,” into flame war.


6. Don't hijack a good conversation thread with an off-topic political or flame war. Posts of this nature will be deleted from now on.

Along with that you have supported almost every terrorist that you could

You have even supported the terrorists in Algeria

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9426&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=algeria+terrorists&start=16

Despite being an American you claim that your government set him up Nick Berg.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15828&highlight=ariweiner

Here you support the "Chechen Resistance"

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9426&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=algeria+terrorists&start=16

Some more crap you posted about the Israelis

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16435&highlight=ariweiner








I really hope that Hood bans you. You deserved to be banned more than anyone else on this forum. You are nothing but a terrorist supporitng asshole who tries to ruin this forum.

[AirZone]

OH NO !!!!!!!!! he is just a true freedom lover and hates jews/americans/humanity

dont be mad on him... he wants the best for the weak...

strange is if he wants it that bad why he doesnt fly to gaza to help them?


some one said hypocrite?

[Moledet]

I guess that now he gonna post again about Deir Yassin rofl

[MKtexan]

After sering some of this stuff, i support Sayeret on baning this guy. Other opinions are fine, but this guy has taken it to the extreme. Admins can you please ban this guy?

[M_S]

Sayaret go ban your ass, nerd.

[M_S]

After sering some of this stuff, i support Sayeret on baning this guy. Other opinions are fine, but this guy has taken it to the extreme. Admins can you please ban this guy?


Don't you like democrasy?

[chauncy republicans]

Go cry to your mothers, you ****en babies!

[Moledet]

After sering some of this stuff, i support Sayeret on baning this guy. Other opinions are fine, but this guy has taken it to the extreme. Admins can you please ban this guy?


Don't you like democrasy?
There's a thin line between democracy, racism and provoking hatred towards various groups while encouraging war crimes (and crimes against humanity) of another nation(s), I think that he have passed this line many times.

[AirZone]

After sering some of this stuff, i support Sayeret on baning this guy. Other opinions are fine, but this guy has taken it to the extreme. Admins can you please ban this guy?


Don't you like democrasy? ...we dont like demagogues who just here to bash another country (before they check their own) instand of talking about military...

LOSER

[M_S]

Well i think it have not.

[AirZone]

Go cry to your mothers, you f*** babies! she's sleeping now... sorry :lol:

[M_S]

After sering some of this stuff, i support Sayeret on baning this guy. Other opinions are fine, but this guy has taken it to the extreme. Admins can you please ban this guy?


Don't you like democrasy? ...we dont like demagogues who just here to bash another country (before they check their own) instand of talking about military...

LOSER

AirZone... what can i say to you?.......lol?

[chauncy republicans]

I saw nothing wrong with that post at all! Where did he condone terrorism!? The attack was on a military vehicle! How was his post rascist!? :cantbeli:
Why dont one of you post the definition of terrorism, since you seem to know more about it than I??

[AirZone]

After sering some of this stuff, i support Sayeret on baning this guy. Other opinions are fine, but this guy has taken it to the extreme. Admins can you please ban this guy?


Don't you like democrasy? ...we dont like demagogues who just here to bash another country (before they check their own) instand of talking about military...

LOSER

AirZone... what can i say to you?.......lol? Uhh... you can be useful and posts stuff about MILITARY and not

how-to-bash-another-country-because-im-a-lousy-spinless-lifeless-demagogue-becuase-my-mom-spanked-me-in-the-ass-when-i-was-a-kid.com/getalife.html

[Tane Angle]

There is no definition of terrorism. Everyone has their own definition.

[AirZone]

I saw nothing wrong with that post at all! Where did he condone terrorism!? The attack was on a military vehicle! How was his post rascist!? :cantbeli:
Why dont one of you post the definition of terrorism, since you seem to know more about it than I??

terrorism


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Noun
1. the calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimindation or coercion or instilling fear
(synonym) act of terrorism, terrorist act
(hypernym) coercion
(hyponym) bioterrorism, biological terrorism





terrorism ['ter·ror·ism || 'terərɪzm]

n. acts of terror, use of terror to achieve political goals


• terrorism

the systematic use of terror or unpredictable violence against governments, publics, or individuals to attain a political objective. Terrorism has been used by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and ethnic groups, by revolutionaries, and by the armies and secret police of governments themselves.
Britannica.com



• TERRORISM

The use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.




Damn I'm a smartass :D

[AirZone]

There is no definition of terrorism. Everyone has their own definition. I think the best definition of terrorism come from the noun terror - fear, extreme fright, horror; nuisance, bothersome person...to seed horror (best noun for terror me think) in one's mind/heart.

[Ars Moriendi]

Ariweiner

Why are you on this site? This is militaryphotos.net and I think you have posted less stuff about the military than even Uninen.

Ok, now I will be the Ariweiner fan boy, but this is not weaponspictures.net, its a forum for military related topics. You cant expect that people from a lot of different countries are going to talk about real conflicts in the world without turning it into discussions about politics.

As I wrote in another thread, Ariweiners opinions are not "extreme" from my point of view, a lot of people here in sweden share his opinions. You must understand that opinions will differ wildly from place to place.

You might be provoced by his posts, but I am sure that he (and many more) are just as provoced by your posts.

[chauncy republicans]

• terrorism

the systematic use of terror or unpredictable violence against governments, publics, or individuals to attain a political objective. Terrorism has been used by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and ethnic groups, by revolutionaries, and by the armies and secret police of governments themselves.
Britannica.com



• TERRORISM

The use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.




Damn I'm a smartass :D
No your a hypocrit! How can you support the actions of your nation, and be opposed to terrorism at the same time, if indeed this is the definition of terrorism?

[AirZone]

Ariweiner

Why are you on this site? This is militaryphotos.net and I think you have posted less stuff about the military than even Uninen.

Ok, now I will be the Ariweiner fan boy, but this is not weaponspictures.net, its a forum for military related topics. You cant expect that people from a lot of different countries are going to talk about real conflicts in the world without turning it into discussions about politics.

As I wrote in another thread, Ariweiners opinions are not "extreme" from my point of view, a lot of people here in sweden share his opinions. You must understand that opinions will differ wildly from place to place.

You might be provoced by his posts, but I am sure that he (and many more) are just as provoced by your posts.

I give up... ok so we are murderes, thieves, nazis bla bla bla bla... THAT WONT HELP YOU GUYS ! because we will still do what we want and how we want and we do it damn good (we stopped the most suicide attacks than any other country in the world during this century) and you will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

[Moledet]

I saw nothing wrong with that post at all! Where did he condone terrorism!? The attack was on a military vehicle! How was his post rascist!? :cantbeli:
Why dont one of you post the definition of terrorism, since you seem to know more about it than I??
Calling Jews thieves is an old antisemitic stereotype.
Denying the Jewish nation right to have their own country is antisemitism (other races are better so they should have country but Jews shouldn't have).
Using double standard towards Jews is antisemitism.
Denying Jews existence as a race is antisemitism.
Comparing Jews to Nazis is antisemitism.
And that's just about Jews, he sometimes say worse things about other nations.
He is full of antisemitism and hatred towards anyone who is not Muslim and he supports the barbaric killing of those who are not Muslim.

[AirZone]

• terrorism

the systematic use of terror or unpredictable violence against governments, publics, or individuals to attain a political objective. Terrorism has been used by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and ethnic groups, by revolutionaries, and by the armies and secret police of governments themselves.
Britannica.com



• TERRORISM

The use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.




Damn I'm a smartass :D
No your a hypocrit! How can you support the actions of your nation, and be opposed to terrorism at the same time, if indeed this is the definition of terrorism?
Awww really ? didnt know im a hypocrite... good to know, so if i dont another of my friends to blow up in a bus like 2 girls i know (that died) or another girl that blowed up in a resturand... or some kid i knew in another bus... i need to sit and wait for the terrorists?! **** NO i dont care if we are doing terror... **** you and the rest of you if you think i will sit and and wait for the angel of death to take me with him... if stopping terrorists means terroizing another fine by me.. first its MY people than its the others...


OH... LEARN HOW TO READ ! ffs english is not my native tongue and i still saw the line when it said POLITICAL objectives... whats political with IDF actions?


:roll:

[M_S]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference.

[chauncy republicans]

There is no definition of terrorism. Everyone has their own definition.
Exactlly! That is why I hate the word terrorist. It seems to me that it is nothing but a way for nations to brand anybody who stands in there way an evil monster. i.e I do believe there are "evil monsters", people who would suicide bomb a subway, and decapitate civilian hostages ect.

[AirZone]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

[chauncy republicans]

• terrorism

the systematic use of terror or unpredictable violence against governments, publics, or individuals to attain a political objective. Terrorism has been used by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and ethnic groups, by revolutionaries, and by the armies and secret police of governments themselves.
Britannica.com



• TERRORISM

The use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.




Damn I'm a smartass :D
No your a hypocrit! How can you support the actions of your nation, and be opposed to terrorism at the same time, if indeed this is the definition of terrorism?
Awww really ? didnt know im a hypocrite... good to know, so if i dont another of my friends to blow up in a bus like 2 girls i know (that died) or another girl that blowed up in a resturand... or some kid i knew in another bus... i need to sit and wait for the terrorists?! f*** NO i dont care if we are doing terror... f*** you and the rest of you if you think i will sit and and wait for the angel of death to take me with him... if stopping terrorists means terroizing another fine by me.. first its MY people than its the others...
Nothing wrong with that, I'm a little "Machiavellian" myself. I dont see why you are so quick to condemn so-called terrorist actions then.
Hell, is'nt it a buddha saying....In order to fight the devil you must become a devil yourself. There is no "clean" way to wage a war.

[AirZone]

• terrorism

the systematic use of terror or unpredictable violence against governments, publics, or individuals to attain a political objective. Terrorism has been used by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and ethnic groups, by revolutionaries, and by the armies and secret police of governments themselves.
Britannica.com



• TERRORISM

The use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.




Damn I'm a smartass :D
No your a hypocrit! How can you support the actions of your nation, and be opposed to terrorism at the same time, if indeed this is the definition of terrorism?
Awww really ? didnt know im a hypocrite... good to know, so if i dont another of my friends to blow up in a bus like 2 girls i know (that died) or another girl that blowed up in a resturand... or some kid i knew in another bus... i need to sit and wait for the terrorists?! f*** NO i dont care if we are doing terror... f*** you and the rest of you if you think i will sit and and wait for the angel of death to take me with him... if stopping terrorists means terroizing another fine by me.. first its MY people than its the others...
Nothing wrong with that, I'm a little "Machiavellian" myself. I dont see why you are so quick to condemn so-called terrorist actions then.
Hell, is'nt it a buddha saying....In order to fight the devil you must become a devil yourself. There is no "clean" way to wage a war. We see it as terror because they are terrorizing our people (jews and arbs) simple as that...

and IDF doesnt terrorize them...terrorize them means using our WHOLE ARMY not a small part that is doing what the Palastines police should have done...

destroying all the houses in Rafah and not only 54 (UN said 54 no?) now thats REAL terror...when they will be afriad to come out from their houses... you dont see that (yet)

[Ars Moriendi]

I give up... ok so we are murderes, thieves, nazis bla bla bla bla...

Dude, chill out. Stop putting words in my mouth, I am just trying to let someone get a chance to express his opinion. I never said Jews are nazis. This world is not divided into two camps and you cant put me in the "other one" just because I dont kiss your ass and praise all your opinions.

[M_S]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

Well with that attitude..i smell some colonialism here.....

[Moledet]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

Well with that attitude..i smell some colonialism here.....
WoW, antisemitic remark number 4, you are advancing well.

[AirZone]

I give up... ok so we are murderes, thieves, nazis bla bla bla bla...

Dude, chill out. Stop putting words in my mouth, I am just trying to let someone get a chance to express his opinion. I never said Jews are nazis. This world is not divided into two camps and you cant put me in the "other one" just because I dont kiss your ass and praise all your opinions. Didnt talked about you... I respect your thoughts..kinda..dont know your opinions good enough (like i respect my arb friends where i live and hell they are more realistic than you ari or you because they really live in ISRAEL and dont feed from the media)

I dont respect Ari opinions sorry..

[AirZone]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

Well with that attitude..i smell some colonialism here..... Infact I support the pulling out from Gaza like 90% of Israel (im not sure about moledet hehehe) and disbanding god foresaken settelments when you can invest the money in health and economy...

Sorry I let you down mate... try again next time :D

[M_S]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

Well with that attitude..i smell some colonialism here.....
WoW, antisemitic remark number 4, you are advancing well.

Thats just pathetic anti-israel is not antisemetic
You dont seem to be willing to contribute with anything here except retarded accusation ;)

[Abbyy]

ariweiner crossed the line.

Polish dudes like to critize Russia over Chechnya and many European folks like to bash Israel but we always can start good discussion with such people about these matters.
Contrary ariweiner can't hear arguments of other side. All he can do is to bash every enemy on sight in endless loop.

[Ars Moriendi]

Didnt talked about you...

This is the second time someone in this forum quote my message, but directs his/hers post to another forum member. Confusing. :|

[chauncy republicans]

• terrorism

the systematic use of terror or unpredictable violence against governments, publics, or individuals to attain a political objective. Terrorism has been used by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and ethnic groups, by revolutionaries, and by the armies and secret police of governments themselves.
Britannica.com



• TERRORISM

The use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.




Damn I'm a smartass :D
No your a hypocrit! How can you support the actions of your nation, and be opposed to terrorism at the same time, if indeed this is the definition of terrorism?
Awww really ? didnt know im a hypocrite... good to know, so if i dont another of my friends to blow up in a bus like 2 girls i know (that died) or another girl that blowed up in a resturand... or some kid i knew in another bus... i need to sit and wait for the terrorists?! f*** NO i dont care if we are doing terror... f*** you and the rest of you if you think i will sit and and wait for the angel of death to take me with him... if stopping terrorists means terroizing another fine by me.. first its MY people than its the others...
Nothing wrong with that, I'm a little "Machiavellian" myself. I dont see why you are so quick to condemn so-called terrorist actions then.
Hell, is'nt it a buddha saying....In order to fight the devil you must become a devil yourself. There is no "clean" way to wage a war. We see it as terror because they are terrorizing our people (jews and arbs) simple as that...
I believe thats what the pali's believe too. ;) I agree with most of Israels military actions, aside from a few, and I tend to disagree with the most of the palistinian actions, aside from a few. I just dont see how attacking an A.P.C. could be considered terrorism, I personally would rather they attack A.P.C.s than my civilians.


If anybody threatens you or your nation, attack them, kill your attackers, terrorize them. Make them afraid to walk outside for fear of death, make them afraid to communicate for fear of informants and detection. It's you against them "him or I, do or die", but the same also goes for your enemy.

[AirZone]

ariweiner crossed the line.

POlish dudes like to critize Russia over Chechnya and many European folks like to bash Israel but can start good discussion with such people.
Contrary ariweiner can't hear arguments of other side. All he can do is to bash every enemy on sight non-stop. Word...democracy sure...freedom of expression...no problemo BUT there are rules in this forums that he crossed. Some say rules are ment to be broken but im not sure if the mods wants that aye ? :D

[M_S]

ariweiner crossed the line.

POlish dudes like to critize Russia over Chechnya and many European folks like to bash Israel but can start good discussion with such people.
Contrary ariweiner can't hear arguments of other side. All he can do is to bash every enemy on sight non-stop. Word...democracy sure...freedom of expression...no problemo BUT there are rules in this forums that he crossed. Some say rules are ment to be broken but im not sure if the mods wants that aye ? :D

You have crossed some rules yourself.

[Moledet]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

Well with that attitude..i smell some colonialism here.....
WoW, antisemitic remark number 4, you are advancing well.

Thats just pathetic anti-israel is not antisemetic
You dont seem to be willing to contribute with anything here except retarded accusation ;)
I said exactly what antisemitism is:
Using antisemitic stereotypes. (2 times, colonialists and theives).
Denying the Jewish nation right to have their own country is antisemitism
Using double standard towards Jews is antisemitism.
Denying Jews existence is antisemitism.
Comparing Jews to Nazis is antisemitism.
*Bold parts are what you said in your latest posts.

BTW, when you refer to Israel you refer only to the Jewish citizens while 20% of the citizens are non Jews, so that's not called being anti Israel, it's called antisemitism.

[AirZone]

• terrorism

the systematic use of terror or unpredictable violence against governments, publics, or individuals to attain a political objective. Terrorism has been used by political organizations with both rightist and leftist objectives, by nationalistic and ethnic groups, by revolutionaries, and by the armies and secret police of governments themselves.
Britannica.com



• TERRORISM

The use of violence to achieve political ends. Many would restrict the definition to include only those acts committed by non-government groups, but state terrorism is also a major factor in the social world.




Damn I'm a smartass :D
No your a hypocrit! How can you support the actions of your nation, and be opposed to terrorism at the same time, if indeed this is the definition of terrorism?
Awww really ? didnt know im a hypocrite... good to know, so if i dont another of my friends to blow up in a bus like 2 girls i know (that died) or another girl that blowed up in a resturand... or some kid i knew in another bus... i need to sit and wait for the terrorists?! f*** NO i dont care if we are doing terror... f*** you and the rest of you if you think i will sit and and wait for the angel of death to take me with him... if stopping terrorists means terroizing another fine by me.. first its MY people than its the others...
Nothing wrong with that, I'm a little "Machiavellian" myself. I dont see why you are so quick to condemn so-called terrorist actions then.
Hell, is'nt it a buddha saying....In order to fight the devil you must become a devil yourself. There is no "clean" way to wage a war. We see it as terror because they are terrorizing our people (jews and arbs) simple as that...
I believe thats what the pali's believe too. ;) I agree with most of Israels military actions, aside from a few, and I tend to disagree with the most of the palistinian actions, aside from a few. I just dont see how attacking an A.P.C. could be considered terrorism, I personally would rather they attack A.P.C.s than my civilians.


If anybody threatens you or your nation, attack them, kill your attackers, terrorize them. Make them afraid to walk outside for fear of death, make them afraid to communicate for fear of informants and detection. It's you against them "him or I, do or die", but the same also goes for your enemy. We never said attacking our APC is terrorism...did we ? there are less crazy mofos (still crazy enough to face IDF hehe) that are militants and there are the really crazy mofos (wanna join them ari? i will order an AH64 for a fast ticket to the virgins) who are terrorists (mostly suicide-terrorists because they know they will get killed because...and thats thier goal)

And I agree... mabye we terrorize them but hell not like they terrorize us!
we dont kill them on purpose (no matter what you guys think) becuase he would do this conflict would be over long long long long long time ago (ask our Egyptian friends). But like some one said.. War is HELL

[AirZone]

ariweiner crossed the line.

POlish dudes like to critize Russia over Chechnya and many European folks like to bash Israel but can start good discussion with such people.
Contrary ariweiner can't hear arguments of other side. All he can do is to bash every enemy on sight non-stop. Word...democracy sure...freedom of expression...no problemo BUT there are rules in this forums that he crossed. Some say rules are ment to be broken but im not sure if the mods wants that aye ? :D

You have crossed some rules yourself. likeeeeeeeeee ????? did i ever posted some anti posts ? i always answered to people and never called people names and would offend them like calling us nazis (only idiots or jerks because i really think they are and im not sure they even give a **** when i call them like that)

[M_S]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

Well with that attitude..i smell some colonialism here.....
WoW, antisemitic remark number 4, you are advancing well.

Thats just pathetic anti-israel is not antisemetic
You dont seem to be willing to contribute with anything here except retarded accusation ;)
I said exactly what antisemitism is:
Using antisemitic stereotypes. (2 times, colonialists and theives).
Denying the Jewish nation right to have their own country is antisemitism
Using double standard towards Jews is antisemitism.
Denying Jews existence as a race is antisemitism.
Comparing Jews to Nazis is antisemitism.
*Bold parts are what you said in your latest posts.

BTW, when you refer to Israel you refer only to the Jewish citizens while 20% of the citizens are non Jews, so that's not called being anti Israel, it's called antisemitism.

Why dont you show the forum members were i wrote these sentences with those words......other people would quote my text and wrtie their interpritation of it, your accusations are groundless until you quote properly so i can answer your accusations.

[M_S]

Awww really ? didnt know im a hypocrite... good to know, so if i dont another of my friends to blow up in a bus like 2 girls i know (that died) or another girl that blowed up in a resturand... or some kid i knew in another bus... i need to sit and wait for the terrorists?! f*** NO i dont care if we are doing terror... f*** you and the rest of you if you think i will sit and and wait for the angel of death to take me with him... if stopping terrorists means terroizing another fine by me.. first its MY people than its the others...

not offending people? :roll:
So you are for terrorism as long as it is against those you hate?...... :cantbeli:

[AirZone]

Awww really ? didnt know im a hypocrite... good to know, so if i dont another of my friends to blow up in a bus like 2 girls i know (that died) or another girl that blowed up in a resturand... or some kid i knew in another bus... i need to sit and wait for the terrorists?! f*** NO i dont care if we are doing terror... f*** you and the rest of you if you think i will sit and and wait for the angel of death to take me with him... if stopping terrorists means terroizing another fine by me.. first its MY people than its the others...

not offending people? :roll:
So you are for terrorism as long as it is against those you hate?...... :cantbeli: no... I dont hate them I never said that. I said as long It's giving my people protection and stopping terrorists (like it really does) then I support it. If you prefer the death of your family instand of one's house (that you dont know or you dont want to know or wants to kill you or destory you country) you are not a sane person.

And did I offend you ? rofl I can hardly believe that... you know good enough it was a self-expression in "slang" saying - N-O W-A-Y!!!

[Moledet]

You will keep being a hypocrites till you will really do some thing to change the world (like I will do)

Well how exactly are you going to change the world? :roll:

And some iraqi style sanctions should do the difference. me? but of course I will join the army and help my follow borthers to slay more poor palastines kids with AK's like duh?!

on a serious note... at least im doing some thing, defeanding my home (you said we took it ? FINE BY ME ITS STILL MY HOME)

Well with that attitude..i smell some colonialism here.....
WoW, antisemitic remark number 4, you are advancing well.

Thats just pathetic anti-israel is not antisemetic
You dont seem to be willing to contribute with anything here except retarded accusation ;)
I said exactly what antisemitism is:
Using antisemitic stereotypes. (2 times, colonialists and theives).
Denying the Jewish nation right to have their own country is antisemitism
Using double standard towards Jews is antisemitism.
Denying Jews existence as a race is antisemitism.
Comparing Jews to Nazis is antisemitism.
*Bold parts are what you said in your latest posts.

BTW, when you refer to Israel you refer only to the Jewish citizens while 20% of the citizens are non Jews, so that's not called being anti Israel, it's called antisemitism.

Why dont you show the forum members were i wrote these sentences with those words......other people would quote my text and wrtie their interpritation of it, your accusations are groundless until you quote properly so i can answer your accusations.



Its just hilarious when jews say that "israel is our land" those who moved to europe/afrika and changed in their ethniticy shouldn't even be considered as ethnic jew, they are jews in religion, yes, but not ethnically "gods people". And even "real" jews have no right to return just becuase they are jews, its just unlogical considering that most ethnic groups around the world moved from one place to the other, were in time should we put a line?...who lived in israel before the jews?....

All this pargraph denies the Jews right to have a country and denies the existence of the Jews. In addition you say that it's not the Jews land, thus the Jews stole it (colonialists and thieves). That's preety much the interpetation of your things.

BTW, read more about the Jewish history, most of the Jews lived in closed societies and didn't marrie non Jews, thus Jews haven't changed.

[Maverick77]

how about this

How about the ****ing nerds on this set up here stop caring so much and everyone just talks about the military and not "omg this guy is ruining the internet!!! ban him quick!!!!"

get a ****ing life

[AirZone]

how about this

How about the f*** nerds on this set up here stop caring so much and everyone just talks about the military and not "omg this guy is ruining the internet!!! ban him quick!!!!"

get a f*** life YOU ARE DAMN RIGHT!!! time to sleep.. :lol:

[M_S]

no... I dont hate them I never said that. I said as long It's giving my people protection and stopping terrorists (like it really does) then I support it. If you prefer the death of your family instand of one's house (that you dont know or you dont want to know or wants to kill you or destory you country) you are not a sane person.

And did I offend you ? rofl I can hardly believe that... you know good enough it was a self-expression in "slang" saying - N-O W-A-Y!

Well you can never prove that, that exact house will be responsible to your families death

Innocent palestinian people that get their houses demolished should recieve conpensation, exactly how many houses had tunnels to egypt?

And btw your "slang" can be offensive ;)

[M_S]

Its just hilarious when jews say that "israel is our land" those who moved to europe/afrika and changed in their ethniticy shouldn't even be considered as ethnic jew, they are jews in religion, yes, but not ethnically "gods people". And even "real" jews have no right to return just becuase they are jews, its just unlogical considering that most ethnic groups around the world moved from one place to the other, were in time should we put a line?...who lived in israel before the jews?....

All this pargraph denies the Jews right to have a country and denies the existence of the Jews. In addition you say that it's not the Jews land, thus the Jews stole it (colonialists and thieves). That's preety much the interpetation of your things.

BTW, read more about the Jewish history, most of the Jews lived in closed societies and didn't marrie non Jews, thus Jews haven't changed.

Well it is not the jews land, so its colonialism, because jews have no right to claim THAT land just because they are jews, people lived there before them and after them, in that part of the world, so therefore they have NO MORE right to that land at all

I never said there are no jews. I said many of those claiming to be ethnically jews are doubtful

Look jews lived in the middle east, so they should look like...say arabs, persians, egyptians.....but when you yourself group yourself in "russian jews" "ethiopian jews" it gets kinda ovious that there havé benn some extensive mixing............compare a jew from ethiopia and a jew from russia or europe......are you telling me that they looked that way 2000 years ago in a so small area of the world?

[ExtraT]

Tell me, M_S, how's your new cage? The gorilla doesn't bother you too much?

[M_S]

Tell me, M_S, how's your new cage? The gorilla doesn't bother you too much?

http://www.hunter-studio.com/images/rooster.jpg



Return home plz :lol:

[UkrainianAmerican]

Its just hilarious when jews say that "israel is our land" those who moved to europe/afrika and changed in their ethniticy shouldn't even be considered as ethnic jew, they are jews in religion, yes, but not ethnically "gods people". And even "real" jews have no right to return just becuase they are jews, its just unlogical considering that most ethnic groups around the world moved from one place to the other, were in time should we put a line?...who lived in israel before the jews?....

All this pargraph denies the Jews right to have a country and denies the existence of the Jews. In addition you say that it's not the Jews land, thus the Jews stole it (colonialists and thieves). That's preety much the interpetation of your things.

BTW, read more about the Jewish history, most of the Jews lived in closed societies and didn't marrie non Jews, thus Jews haven't changed.

Well it is not the jews land, so its colonialism, because jews have no right to claim THAT land just because they are jews, people lived there before them and after them, in that part of the world, so therefore they have NO MORE right to that land at all

I never said there are no jews. I said many of those claiming to be ethnically jews are doubtful

Look jews lived in the middle east, so they should look like...say arabs, persians, egyptians.....but when you yourself group yourself in "russian jews" "ethiopian jews" it gets kinda ovious that there havé benn some extensive mixing............compare a jew from ethiopia and a jew from russia or europe......are you telling me that they looked that way 200 years ago in a so small area of the world?
Ok, first of all learn some history instead of wasting your time online posting your unbased thoughts here.
Second of all, do you have ANY idea of how RIDICULOUSLY easy to tell apart a russian jew from say a russian slav (or Ukranian Cossak, or whatever other ethnicity)?
I dont wanna start making fun of jewish stereotypes, but the stereotype about jews having big noses, is only funny (and offensive to some) because it is true.


EDIT

O and btw, there are no more 'egyptians', and Persians/Iranians look VERY different frm Arabs.

[M_S]

Ok, first of all learn some history instead of wasting your time online posting your unbased thoughts here.
Second of all, do you have ANY idea of how RIDICULOUSLY easy to tell apart a russian jew from say a russian slav (or Ukranian Cossak, or whatever other ethnicity)?
I dont wanna start making fun of jewish stereotypes, but the stereotype about jews having big noses, is only funny (and offensive to some) because it is true

Ok so you can tell a russian jew from a russian, but thats not what im talking about im talking about that jews mixed with russians and thats why there is Russian jews and other groups of jews....they have indded mixed thats the point here.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Ok, first of all learn some history instead of wasting your time online posting your unbased thoughts here.
Second of all, do you have ANY idea of how RIDICULOUSLY easy to tell apart a russian jew from say a russian slav (or Ukranian Cossak, or whatever other ethnicity)?
I dont wanna start making fun of jewish stereotypes, but the stereotype about jews having big noses, is only funny (and offensive to some) because it is true

Ok so you can tell a russian jew from a russian, but thats not what im talking about im talking about that jews mixed with russians and thats why there is Russian jews and other groups of jews....they have indded mixed thats the point here.
Its impossible to rule it out COMPLETELY, but for a long time Jews have been living in closely-knit communities, so ethnic mixing was EXTREMELY limited.
O and as for denominations such as Russian or French, they mean just that: Their nationality and customs/traditions/culture.

[M_S]

Ok, first of all learn some history instead of wasting your time online posting your unbased thoughts here.
Second of all, do you have ANY idea of how RIDICULOUSLY easy to tell apart a russian jew from say a russian slav (or Ukranian Cossak, or whatever other ethnicity)?
I dont wanna start making fun of jewish stereotypes, but the stereotype about jews having big noses, is only funny (and offensive to some) because it is true

Ok so you can tell a russian jew from a russian, but thats not what im talking about im talking about that jews mixed with russians and thats why there is Russian jews and other groups of jews....they have indded mixed thats the point here.
Its impossible to rule it out COMPLETELY, but for a long time Jews have been living in closely-knit communities, so ethnic mixing was EXTREMELY limited.
O and as for denominations such as Russian or French, they mean just that: Their nationality and customs/traditions/culture.

Well the big difference between ethiopian jews, middle eastern jews and european/russian jews are showing that mixing was not limited at all.

[ExtraT]

Tell me, M_S, how's your new cage? The gorilla doesn't bother you too much?
http://www.hunter-studio.com/images/rooster.jpg
Return home plz :lol:

Yeah, I can see the gorilla DOES bother you.

Well, you'll have to wait. The latest big influx of inmates overcrouded The Zoo somewhat, that's why you were put together with a gorilla. Don't worry, there is an expansion in the works - you'll move in with your nazi buddies soon enough.

Oh, and BTW - the chicken in my Avatar is of a different kind - you being an American should have recognized him. :bash:

[chauncy republicans]

Tell me, M_S, how's your new cage? The gorilla doesn't bother you too much?
http://www.hunter-studio.com/images/rooster.jpg
Return home plz :lol:

Yeah, I can see the gorilla DOES bother you.

Well, you'll have to wait. The latest big influx of inmates overcrouded The Zoo somewhat, that's why you were put together with a gorilla. Don't worry, there is an expansion in the works - you'll move in with your nazi buddies soon enough.

Oh, and BTW - the chicken in my Avatar is of a different kind - you being an American should have recognized him. :bash:
:roll: moron

[duck]

Uhh, who cares about ethnicity. We're all spammers in one World.

[M_S]

Tell me, M_S, how's your new cage? The gorilla doesn't bother you too much?
http://www.hunter-studio.com/images/rooster.jpg
Return home plz :lol:

Yeah, I can see the gorilla DOES bother you.

Well, you'll have to wait. The latest big influx of inmates overcrouded The Zoo somewhat, that's why you were put together with a gorilla. Don't worry, there is an expansion in the works - you'll move in with your nazi buddies soon enough.

Oh, and BTW - the chicken in my Avatar is of a different kind - you being an American should have recognized him. :bash:

Wow, im so bothered by a guy only writing personal assaults and talks about some gorillas and cages.... rofl
I can see that the chicken thing DOES bother you! rofl

[ExtraT]

Wow, im so bothered by a guy only writing personal assaults...


Well, I'm definetly capable of sane discussions, but you're one of these people with whom such discussions are a total waste of time. There is only one thing that is capable of changing your mind - a bullet through your thick skull.

So, since it's a virtual forum, there are only two thing I can do: ignore you, or assault you. I did the former for a while, now I'm doing the latter.

BTW, how's the gorilla?

[ExtraT]

:roll: moron

Stay out of it, please. ;)

[M_S]

Wow, im so bothered by a guy only writing personal assaults...


There is only one thing that is capable of changing your mind - a bullet through your thick skull.



This should not be allowed (moderators-this was a death threat), you are sad ExtraT its people like you who should be ignored.

[Pooga]

http://ileet.net/images/lame.jpg

[MKtexan]

ExtraT wrote:
M_S wrote:

Wow, im so bothered by a guy only writing personal assaults...



There is only one thing that is capable of changing your mind - a bullet through your thick skull.




This should not be allowed (moderators-this was a death threat), you are sad ExtraT its people like you who should be ignored.


How is this a death threat M_S? he never threatened to kill you!!! he simply explained to you how single minded you are.

What are you going to do about it M_S? Try to get the Admins to ban him??? rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[M_S]

Its a death threat :|

And however you wanna twist it, its still something for the moderators to fix banning ExtraT?

[5jumpchump]

LOL , you guys are friggin killing me . Why don't you all just go outside and smell some fresh air .......please rofl

Besides if Airwiener and M_S want to see the destruction Isreal and see it "pushed into the sea " and they support Palestinians right to blow up children on school busses all because they got thier wittle ass whooped in a six day war 50 yrs ago then let them do as they wish and write what they must . You guys are only feeding the trolls . Three threads dedicated to two assholes , in one day . Yall git a life now , ya hear ;)

[Pooga]

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bd.petit.format/st/sheriff.jpg

Yall git a life now , ya hear ;)

[MKtexan]

M_S Wrote

Its a death threat

And however you wanna twist it, its still something for the moderators to fix banning ExtraT?

Oh really? And the Things Ariweiner said arent? :bash:

[Spleen]

Calling Jews thieves is an old antisemitic stereotype.

Calling one or some Jews thieves is not. Calling ALL Jews is. I haven't seen the original quote, so I can't tell which one was the case. However, calling the Israeli state "Thieves" for living where the Palestinians used to live is definately NOT anti-semitism, it's a political opinion having nothing to do with race.


Denying the Jewish nation right to have their own country is antisemitism (other races are better so they should have country but Jews shouldn't have).

Using double standard towards Jews is antisemitism.

What countries exactly are possesed entirely by one race? What other races have their own countries? This type of ethnic purity crap is what many of the modern wars have been fought over, including WWII, (which I am stunned you could forget), Yugoslavia/Bosnia/Serbia etc., wars in Africa, etc. Every time, it should be stopped, and once enough public info is out there, usually the UN or NATO or some power steps in to try to stop it. Wanting a country for the Jewish race is just as racist as wanting a country WITHOUT the Jewish race...



Denying Jews existence as a race is antisemitism.

No one is denying you your existence, he is just arguing ( and I'm not saying I agree here, as I don't really ) that some of the historically Jewish people have become so racially differentiated that it is hard to justify labelling them all as part of the same race. He's really arguing semantics, not race.


Comparing Jews to Nazis is antisemitism.


This is garbage. However it is a typical response of some of the Israeli forum members to any insult laid upon them. Do you not realize you are destroying the utility of that word by using it to defend against everything? Ok, for 10 years after the war ( WWII ) when everyone felt VERY REASONABLY sorry for the Jewish people, you could use it to shut just about anyone up, as everyone was terrified of being associated with the Nazis, however these days, you will have to show that someone actually has something specifically against the Jews to show anti-semitism.

The reply of "You're being anti-semitic" to any and all attacks is very reminiscent to me of the way children act when they learn that crying to mommy protects them from most things at a young age. Soon, whenever ANYTHING doesn't go their way they are crying for her...

Also, you of all people should be able to stand up to the comparison. I'd think if I was a Jew I would want for damn sure to never do ANY of the things to another people that the Nazi's did to the Jews. I would therefore be ready and able to defend myself against any comparisons to the Nazi's with rational arguments, instead of having to call for "Mommy".


And that's just about Jews, he sometimes say worse things about other nations.
--->He is full of antisemitism and hatred towards anyone who is not Muslim and he supports the barbaric killing of those who are not Muslim<---

If that's true, then he's a scum bag. I'm not trying to defend him AT ALL, I just couldn't not reply when I read your list of things that are supposedly "anti-semitism". Stop relying so heavily on this buzzword, and defend yourself properly when people say these kinds of things. I'm almost certain you could change a few minds with some good old logical arguments, but I think you'll have little effect on people's opinions by crying "Anti-Semite" whenever anyone has anything to say against the Israeli state. It's just been used SO MUCH here, that it's lost a lot of it's impact. I have many Jewish friends, I live in a predominantly jewish neighbourhood. When my Jewish freinds say they disagree with Israels actions ( and this is actually what ALL of the ones I know think and feel ) are they being Anti-Semitic?

[Sayeret]

Spleen wrote:


What countries exactly are possesed entirely by one race? What other races have their own countries? This type of ethnic purity crap is what many of the modern wars have been fought over, including WWII, (which I am stunned you could forget), Yugoslavia/Bosnia/Serbia etc., wars in Africa, etc. Every time, it should be stopped, and once enough public info is out there, usually the UN or NATO or some power steps in to try to stop it. Wanting a country for the Jewish race is just as racist as wanting a country WITHOUT the Jewish race...

Saudi Arabia is a muslim only country, if your not a muslim your not a citzen.

[Pooga]

But Saudi Arabia is about as exciting to talk about as a camel peeing in the windswept desert.

Not sure why I said that.

I gotta go………

woot

[ExtraT]

... I just couldn't not reply when I read your list of things that are supposedly "anti-semitism". Stop relying so heavily on this buzzword, and defend yourself properly when people say these kinds of things.

One of the signs of antisemitism (or any racial discrimination for that matter) is an application of double standard based on race.
This happens a lot with scumwads like Airweiner and S_M - they hold Israeli people to special high standards. For example, They routinely say (it's almost a mantra with them) that restriction of movement forced upon "palestinians" by IDF is an acceptable justification of terrorism. Not only do they disregard the fact that this restricition was put in place as a responce to terrorism (to try and prevent more attacks), but also they somehow manage to equate a minor nuisance (yes, these roadblocks is a minor nuisance) to deliberate and systematic murder. Somehow, in their twisted minds, they think it's OK to apply such standards to Jews, but they certainly wouldn't apply such standards to themselves - no sane person would, so that's definite antisemitism.
What I gave here is but only one example - there are tons more.

So - yes, there is definitely antisemitism out there, and lots of it. And denying it is just another form of double standard - which again is antisemitism.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

I'm with the sheriff...go outside and get a life ya'll.

[cut]

Spleen wrote:


What countries exactly are possesed entirely by one race? What other races have their own countries? This type of ethnic purity crap is what many of the modern wars have been fought over, including WWII, (which I am stunned you could forget), Yugoslavia/Bosnia/Serbia etc., wars in Africa, etc. Every time, it should be stopped, and once enough public info is out there, usually the UN or NATO or some power steps in to try to stop it. Wanting a country for the Jewish race is just as racist as wanting a country WITHOUT the Jewish race...

Saudi Arabia is a muslim only country, if your not a muslim your not a citzen.

there are plenty of black muslims living in Saudi Arabia, Muslim is not a race.

[born_to_love]

But ITs a religion!

There are plenty of black jews living in Israel, judaism is not a race.

[born_to_love]

When we have been prosecuted and been kicked out of countrys for the past 300 years I think its time we get our own Nation.

[RomanS]

Mods,

I agree, ariweiner must go.

There is a border, there is a line, he crossed it many times before.

As much as I don't agree with Marmot, Hermanek, ikuturbini (sorry if I misspelled it), Ichabe, and other crazy Euros, I respect them, and would vote against of baning them.

But this pro-terrorist fella is beyond everything. He openly supports terrorism in Chechnya, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan. We can argue here all night, but what Sarayet started on the first page is a prime example of how ariweiner presents himself.

I understand this is a private site, and the administrator decides things like this, but I must ask you all -

SHOW ME SOMETHING not pro-muslim extrimist, that ariweiner brought in here.

He constantly bashes on Russian soldiers, and after you put all his anti-Russian bashing together, its clear that he wants Russian people no matter who, to die and suffer.
I tried fighting with him as much as I could, but I understand Russia on this board is not important as lets say USA.

But mods, and everyone else search his name, and show me something PRO-US or even neautral (photo material for us military freaks)

Thanks all

[SeanAshi]

there are plenty of black muslims living in Saudi Arabia, Muslim is not a race.They have Starbucks in Saudi Arabia!

[RavenW]

Generally, I think that bannig someone is wrong... It gives them status of a 'victim'. Too much attention to a piece of **** rises this piece of **** in forum.

Lets just ignore morons. Don't waste your time on them and

don't lower yourself to their position.

nazi crap will always be nazi crap...


P.s. The only time I called for ban is when person openly incited to racial/ethnic/religious hatred and publically indorsed anti-Semitic laws passed in Saudi Arabia against people of Jewish descent.

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"Waste of Time"
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16486

[RavenW]

oops I was wrong.... yep, this is exactly the bastard I called moderators to ban from this forum.
Specifically, for the reasons of nationalistic discimination and justifying racial/ethnic 'laws'.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=311673&highlight=#311673




ariweiner quote:

Secondly, people of the Jewish tradition being barred from Saudi makes perfect sense



STOP!

ariweiner, are you saying that you justify ("make perrfect sense") the discrimination based on ethnic origin. So for example, if Germany had a war with Congo, it would be perfectly all right to discriminate and ban "people of African" tradition or saying it plain "ban the blacks from entering the country".

Is that what you imply?

And not like it is actually true, but if "Israel would ban people of Arab descent from entering the country", then it's somehow makes it "OKey" to "ban Jews and people of Jewish descent everywhere for entering some Arab nation somewhere in Persian Gulf region".

Enough said.

After I posted an article describing new anti-semitic twist in Saudi Arabia (which by the way was universally condemed by civilized nations as pure Nazi-style 1930s Europe anti-semitism).

I find that there is a person, who think there is nothing wrong with baning and discriminating people based on their skin color, religion or even simple "descent" (as he put it "people of Jewish tradition").

I think that anyone that supports anti-Jew laws or anti-Negro lwas anywhere is just a sick bastard.

Therefore,

1. I think any discussion with person who supports racist policy against Jews is pointless.

2. Discrimination of people based on the color of their skin is called RACISM, discrimination of people base on their ethnic ancestry is called anti-Semitism.

Both forms represent evil, and anyone who supports it deserve condemnation.

3. I publicly call moderators to ban this person from the forum based on his remarks in which he supports the anti-semitic campaign of Middle Eastern governments and justifies "No Jews" law of Nazi like states.

4. I publicly call all the people of this forum to ignore and boycot this individual, not because he is not entitled to the Freedom of Speech and Press, but because he incites, encourages ethnical hatred and spreads anti-Jewish and racists remarks.

5. In all my post I always underline the strong and serious believe that all people should be treated equally since nationality is not important.

whether you German, French, Romanian, Chinese or a Jew it's NOT nationality that makes you a great person, but the content of your character.

I also always emphasize that while we can critisize/like/dislike policies of particular countries (e.g. Germany, France, Israel, America), we should always refer from the nationalistic anti-enthnic rhetoric like: "damn Judes", "damn ******s", "damn Arabs", "damn Americans".

While it's ok to say "damn Palestinian terrorist", it is uterly wrong to say "damn Palestinian Arabs".



I personally condemn in the strongest terms this particular individual for his anti-Semitic remarks and break off any forum relationships with him.
I also encourage any other forum member wether he is Jew or non-Jew to do the same.

P.s. On a personal note, anyone who says it's okey to ban and discriminate a particular ethnic group (because they are Jews or they are Blacks or Arabs), and who tries to justify such disrimination is just a pig.

There, I said it.

[born_to_love]

I love how he supports the arabs killing us and not letting us live in there land yet he constantly bitches about us not letting enough arabs into Israel even though they make up 20 percent of the population

[ariweiner]

Answering only the initial post for now:

Why are you on this site?
Because I have a general interest in the military though I am a civilian.

This is militaryphotos.net and I think you have posted less stuff about the military than even Uninen.
I believe that all of the posts that I have started are directly related to military issues. As for the replies in some posts, these are to make people aware of the background situation of those events and not judge purely from specific incidents.

The only thing you have ever seem to post is pro-Islamic terrorist, anti-Israel, anti-America, and anti-Russia stuff
And your posts are all anti-Islamic, pro-Israel, pro-America, pro-Russian stuff. It is just because we are coming from two different points of view.

and when people reply to your posts most your responses don't even make sense or are very disrespectful.
If you could please give me an example of one of my posts that don't make any sense or are disrespectful.

You have called the Russians a
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tyrannical imperialistic terrorist state
Based on the actions of the Russians in Chechnya, this is the only conclusion that I can come to.

Regarding the video in which a Russian civilian being tortured and beheaded you said:

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Filthy Russian savages, you can see why they need to be exterminated from Chechnya.
For all I know, that tape was a Chechen being tortured by the FSB. God knows that there are more than enough cases of that happening.

You compared the Israelis to Nazi

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What? Why? Because a clear link between Israel and the Nazi's(identification of a particular group to single them out for different treatment) was made?
What is wrong with that? Is not my above quoted statement true? The Nazis used Stars of David to single out Jews for discriminatory treatment just as the Israelis today use special license plates to single out Palestinians and non-Jews for discrimination in the Occupied Territories. I am not calling the Israeli's Nazis. I am saying that aspects of their behaviour reflect that of Nazi's.

In another part of that thread you call the Israelis "thieves"
Which again is true. Much of the land that we call "Israel" is in fact stolen from its owners. You can say that the Israeli's conquered the land so it is "theirs." But International Law states that a (1) Occupied people cannot be displaced to make way for citizens of the occupying nation and (2) Internally displaced persons have a right to return to their homes. Israel is currently in violation of both of these two laws.

You have continually sent spam. (Articles you were the author of that people responded to and asked you questions yet you avoided them.)
Examples please. Most of the time when I do not reply to someone it is either because I have not seen their post or I was too busy.

The main reason I want you banned is your utter disrespect to everyone on this forum including Argyll.
It is not I who has been continually calling people names. And I do not believe that I have disrespected anyone.

you show disrespect towards Argyll by claiming that the Palestinian attack wasn’t a terrorist attack.
Was it a terrorist attack? Killing soldiers is not a terrorist attack my friend since terrorist attacks are those perpetrated against civilians.

1. Be civil to your fellow forum user.
I have been extremely civil I think. I have not called anyone names. I have not used foul language etc.

You clearly haven't done this by calling the Russians terrorists and the Israelis theives and criminals and comparing them to Nazis.
I use specific examples as proof whenever I label the specific acts or specific behaviour of a certain nation. It is clear, at least to me, from the examples that I have given that the Russians are terrorist thugs in Chechnya and that the actions of Israel qualifies as theft and criminal behaviour.

You have turned several threads into flame wars. Most recently you turned the thread “Mechanics of a Living Bomb,” into flame war.
May I inquire as to who was doing the flaming?

6. Don't hijack a good conversation thread with an off-topic political or flame war. Posts of this nature will be deleted from now on.
My post was right on topic. You cited a specific instance of suicide bombing which was then used to portray the entire M.E conflict. I merely offered a more complete version of events.

You have even supported the terrorists in Algeria
Read what I said in the post. I pointed out that the Algerian government which stopped a democratically run election because "Islamists" were sure to win are perpetrating massacres disguised as "Islamist terrorists." I am at a loss as to how you understand this as "supporting terrorism."

Despite being an American you claim that your government set him up Nick Berg.
You really aren't reading my posts are you? Please go back and read it and don't make any assumptions.

Some more crap you posted about the Israelis
What Israeli soldiers are saying about the treatment of Palestinians is crap? Why? Because they point out systematic abuse of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories? And since that does not fit in with your version of truth, you can automatically dismiss it without consideration?

I really hope that Hood bans you. You deserved to be banned more than anyone else on this forum. You are nothing but a terrorist supporitng asshole who tries to ruin this forum.
Based on all the evidence that you have given, I would say that your entire premise and subsequent conclusions are all false because you have appeared to deliberately misunderstood most of the things that I have said.

[ExtraT]

Tell me, Airweiner, do you really believe all the crap that you just wrote? Because if you do, then you are fully ripe for HAMAS (or Al Qaeda) recruiting - they really like turning misguided SOBs like yourself into suicide bombers. The beauty of it (from their point of view) is, that characters like you don't even need too much brainwashing.

So, why won't you go find a HAMAS cell and leave us all alone over here? It's not even too hard - every university has one of these nowadays.

[ariweiner]

Tell me, Airweiner, do you really believe all the crap that you just wrote? Because if you do, then you are fully ripe for HAMAS (or Al Qaeda) recruiting - they really like turning misguided SOBs like yourself into suicide bombers. The beauty of it (from their point of view) is, that characters like you don't even need too much brainwashing.

So, why won't you go find a HAMAS cell and leave us all alone over here? It's not even too hard - every university has one of these nowadays.
If you could give me a proper coherent answer perhaps I could act accordingly. In other words, instead of telling me "what you post is ****", why don't you actually tell me WHY it is ****.

[ExtraT]

The Nazis used Stars of David to single out Jews for discriminatory treatment just as the Israelis today use special license plates to single out Palestinians and non-Jews for discrimination in the Occupied Territories.

OMG, this "fact" is like an urban legend already. :roll:

FYI (I think it's like 10th time I write this on this board): Licence plates in Israel are not assigned to owners but to CARS. The plates are put on the cars when they arrive into the port, long before they even get to the dealers. And these plates stay on the car until it's scrapped.
Cars in PA carry plates assigned by PA, not Israeli governement.

Now, tell me, my nazi friend, where did you pick up this "fact" of yours? And how many other "facts" did you pick up with it?
Maybe you should watch where you pick your facts from - you can save yourself an embarassement.
Of course, you probably don't care. You're one of these jerkwads that simply ignore anything that doesn't go well with the virtual reality that is your life.

As they say in Russian:
"Горбатого - могила исправит."

[RomanS]

Ariweiner,

do you understand that if you don't leave on your own, your time here will be misarable? I will personally make it so, and others will suport me.

Now for calling Russian soldiers a terrorists, Im gonna tell you again. Prove it with one photo!

How many times I tried to argue with you in a civil matter about Chechnya, you always backed out, or couldnt respond with anything back.

Have you seen the whole video of the Russian soldier beheading? Or you only saw the internet version?

Are you really that dumb, and can't tell the difference between a Nohchi native, and a Russian Slavic looks?

I can give you facts, videos, photos, and thousands of articles where Chechens kidnap people for ransom, execute innocent victims, take hostages, blow up civilian targets, and lets not forget Budennovsk, Kizlyar, theater in Moscow, concert in Tushino, tunnel in Pushkino, Parade in Kaspisk, parade in Grozny, subway in Moscow. All those articels and photos will be (From CNN, CBS, FOX, NBC, BBC, Yahoo news) all well respected inforamtion agencies.

Show me articles, photos, videos where Russian soldiers torture and kill, execute innocent people, take hostages in hospitals, theaters, and villages, blow up subways, concerts, parades, rape children, and terrorize their own territory. Make sure at least one source is from CNN, CBS, FOX, NBC, BBC, or Yahoo.

Let all be witness here.

[RomanS]

Here CHEW ON THIS weiner

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/28/chechens.terror/

U.S. puts 3 Chechen groups on terrorist list
From Andrea Koppel and Elise Labott
CNN
Friday, February 28, 2003 Posted: 5:24 PM EST (2224 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States designated three Chechen groups with links to al Qaeda as terrorist organizations on Friday, partially meeting a Russian request as the Bush administration engages in sensitive talks with Moscow over Iraq.

The move allows the U.S. government to freeze the groups' assets and ban their members from traveling to the United States.

The U.S. State Department said members of the Islamic International Brigade, the Special Purpose Islamic Regiment and the Riyadus-Salikhin Reconnaissance and Sabotage Battalion of Chechen Martyrs were believed to be responsible for the hostage-taking at Moscow's Dubrovka Theatre last October.

Terrorist designations are done under presidential executive order 13224, which was established after the September 11 attacks and lists groups associated with the Taliban, bin Laden and al Qaeda.

Groups have 'significant' ties to al Qaeda
U.S. officials laid out what they called "significant" ties to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, including a 1999 trip by group members to bin Laden's home base in Kandahar, Afghanistan. At that meeting, officials believe bin Laden agreed to send military and financial assistance to Chechen fighters battling Russian forces.

The State Department maintains bin Laden sent "substantial" amounts of money to Shamil Basayev and Ibn al-Kattab, leaders of the Islamic International Brigade, to train gunmen, recruit mercenaries and purchase ammunition.

Chechen fighters known to be associated with Basayev and al-Kattab are also believed to have fought in al Qaeda's elite "055 Brigade," which fought against the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan throughout 2001.

U.S.: 'Not a green light'
Russia has been pressing for the designation for some time as it battles Chechen rebels. Senior State Department officials said the decision was the result of "an extremely thorough interagency process" and was taken after a lengthy review.

U.S. officials said the designation does not change U.S. policy -- which advocates a political settlement between Russian and Chechen leaders -- and insisted the move did not give the Russians a "green light" to launch an offensive against all Chechens in the name of battling terrorism.

"We were extremely clear with the Russians that this is not a green light," one senior official said, but added that the United States respects Russia's right to defend itself against terrorists and would cooperate with Moscow in the war on terrorism.

The officials also reiterated they were very careful about which groups to designate. Although Russia was interested in designating larger groups, the officials said the information available to them only made it possible to designate a narrow margin of groups within an umbrella organization.

By making the designation, the U.S. can now take the names of the groups to the United Nations Sanctions Committee on the Taliban, Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. If the names are accepted by the committee, all United Nations members are required to freeze the assets of the groups in their own countries.

[ariweiner]

FYI (I think it's like 10th time I write this on this board): Licence plates in Israel are not assigned to owners but to CARS. The plates are put on the cars when they arrive into the port, long before they even get to the dealers.
And for the 4th time that I write it on this board, I am talking about cars in the Occupied Territories and not cars inside Israel.

[ariweiner]

Russian soldiers torture and kill (http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/chechnya/Disapfin-04.htm#P597_130226)
execute innocent people (http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/04/12/russia8424.htm)
take hostages (http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/chechnya/)
rape... (http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/04/chechnya041002.htm)

[RomanS]

Russian soldiers torture and kill (http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/04/chechnya041002.htm)
execute innocent people (http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/04/12/russia8424.htm)
take hostages (http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/chechnya/)
rape... (http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/04/chechnya041002.htm)

this is your source? HRW?

and tell me, why should I believe them over the CNN, BBC, Yahoo ?

[mack pl]

Uhhh, Ariweiner have big fanclub ;)

In my opinion everybody have right to theirs personal opinions, not all ppl must love Russia, Israel, USA etc., and theirs politic. But if this person talking BS, ppl from this countries should explain him, how stupid was that what he wrote. But when some forum member starting only flames, ohhh well, If you cannot ignore him,and he dont care what you saying to him, its different situation......this thread is good idea, coz you could explain him what do you think about his posts :| But I dont think he will change his political views, maybe he should changed his posts style(less offensive) or something like that :|

Regards all

[Sayeret]

ariweiner wrote:

If you could please give me an example of one of my posts that don't make any sense or are disrespectful.

Heres an example

quote:


Israel isn't always an angel, but you just tell me when they start strapping TNT to their 13 year old children, OK?

ariweiner responded:

This isn't about being an angel. It is about correcting injustices that have been going on for 50 years!!! The Palestinians have been living this for decades! And so suicide bombings are really no surprise. It is to be noted that terrorist attacks are for the most part perpetrated in countries which are occupied or invaded.

Most occupied countries use suicide bombings? Name them



Why do terrorists kill innocent children?

Ariweiner responded:

Actually terrorists never target children. No military-style entity does. In this particular instance, the American-placed police were the target. If I were a US military spokemen and this were a US military operation that had done this, I would probably call this "unfortunate collateral damage."

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12887&highlight=

Or what about those two Israeli 14-year-olds were stoned to death by Islamic Jihad. (You better not say some bull**** response that the Israeli government framed them like you did about that kid suicide bomber.)

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-%20Obstacle%20to%20Peace/Memorial/2001/Ya-acov%20-Kobi-%20Mandell

http://www.kobymandell.org/archive16.htm

Or what about those school buses the Palestinians attack?


Look deeper about Hevron massacre... I'm sure you will find about it (but of course you dont care so you dont look about it) with more "proper leftish" websites.

ariweiner response:

When I look up something I like to know BOTH sides to the story. In this case I can only find Israeli sources only and I have read them. Until I can find some way of balancing this, I really don't feel like commenting. However, if it happened in the exact way described by Israeli sources(that Arabs went on a rampage for little or no reason), then it is to be condemned totally.

Hmm ariweiner when I look up the massacre on google I seem to be ablr to find tons of info on it maybe the only reason you don't want to admit some of the atrocities carried out by Arabs.



and before you say another of your garbage compering us to the nazi i suggest you will fly now to israel/palastine and see what really happens in here... and dont get yourself brainwashed from the website because reality is very different from the internet...

ariweiner responded:

The truth can be gleaned from the internet due to eyewitness accounts.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/diaries.shtml

Yeah I think we should all believe electronicintifada for fair and balanced news.

Regarding the video in which a Russian civilian being tortured and beheaded you said:



Filthy Russian savages, you can see why they need to be exterminated from Chechnya.

ariweiner wrote:

For all I know, that tape was a Chechen being tortured by the FSB. God knows that there are more than enough cases of that happening.

That's just bs excuse and you know it, theres nothing else to say.
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You have called the Russians a
Quote:
tyrannical imperialistic terrorist state


Based on the actions of the Russians in Chechnya, this is the only conclusion that I can come to.

Okaey good enough you admit just there you support terrorim against Russian civilians.

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You compared the Israelis to Nazi


What? Why? Because a clear link between Israel and the Nazi's(identification of a particular group to single them out for different treatment) was made?

ariweiner responded:

What is wrong with that? Is not my above quoted statement true? The Nazis used Stars of David to single out Jews for discriminatory treatment just as the Israelis today use special license plates to single out Palestinians and non-Jews for discrimination in the Occupied Territories. I am not calling the Israeli's Nazis. I am saying that aspects of their behaviour reflect that of Nazi's.

Hmm lets think ariweiner whats wrong with comparing Jews to Nazis. Now are you comparing Jews to Nazis because you actually believe that or because you think that will get on people's nerves? I think we both know that you chose nazis over any other tyrannical regime for the factor that it would annoy the Jewish posters.

4. Don't use racial slurs.

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It is not I who has been continually calling people names. And I do not believe that I have disrespected anyone.

Heres a list of direspectful stuff you said

1)
Filthy Russian savages, you can see why they need to be exterminated from Chechnya

2)
I think not...but then again, the Russian thugs and their supporters need something to cheer about.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12647&highlight=

3)
Good fiction. Post some more. (Regarding a non-fiction story about some Russian troops) Obviously you said this to piss of the Russians.

4)
Permskii, you are truly full of it.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10985&highlight=

5)
Here you support the "Chechen Resistance"

ariweiner response:

So what? They are fighting a tyrannical imperialistic terrorist state and they have my full support.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16692&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

6)
Is this the excuse for Israel's atrocities? As for the special license plates, they are pretty equivalent to Nazi Germany making Jews wear Stars and giving them "special treatment" accordingly. Apartheid about sums it up.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16692&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

7)
Because a thief returning what he stole is the right thing to do. (Regarding the Israelis)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16692&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

8)ariweiner wrote:

Secondly, people of the Jewish tradition being barred from Saudi makes perfect sense(as a form of protest) considering the injustices that
are being perpetrated against the Palestinian people

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16415&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=16

9)In other words, they were trying to protect thieves and cowards who bring women and children into their settlements to hide behind.
(Regarding the blowing up of six IDF soldiers)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14533&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32

10)
Look deeper about Hevron massacre... I'm sure you will find about it (but of course you dont care so you dont look about it) with more "proper leftish" websites.

ariweiner wrote:

When I look up something I like to know BOTH sides to the story. In this case I can only find Israeli sources only and I have read them. Until I can find some way of balancing this, I really don't feel like commenting. However, if it happened in the exact way described by Israeli sources(that Arabs went on a rampage for little or no reason), then it is to be condemned totally.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16692&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=64
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you show disrespect towards Argyll by claiming that the Palestinian attack wasn’t a terrorist attack

ariweiner responded:

Was it a terrorist attack? Killing soldiers is not a terrorist attack my friend since terrorist attacks are those perpetrated against civilians.

That wasn't the point of the statement. The point of the statement is you didn't show respect towards one of the moderators.

Ariweiner wrote:

Sincere question Argyll: Why is this attack uncondonable? It was a legitimate military attack against an invading and occupying army. We should be congratulating the Palestinians on targetting combatants. That's my view.

Argyll responded:

that is bull**** and you know it,it was carried out by a Terrorist Orginisation.

Please PM Hood and repeat to him what you just posted here,in fact please PM all the Moderators and repeat what you just posted here.

What you have done is made a post designed to start a Flame war.

I'm locking this one temporary,so that Marmot can make a post to ask his fellow Poles a question on an open forum

Ariweiner did you send that posting to all the moderators?

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You have turned several threads into flame wars. Most recently you turned the thread “Mechanics of a Living Bomb,” into flame war.

ariweiner responded:

May I inquire as to who was doing the flaming?

Here let me post all the flames wars you started

1)"Mechanics Of a Living Bomb"
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16692&highlight=

2)Islamo-Fascism
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16415&highlight=

3)At Least Six Israeli Soldiers Killed in Gaza-TV
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?
t=14533&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32
(Sorry to disapoint you but Mustamo helpped you started the flame war.)

4)Explosion Kills Chechen President
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14382&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=16

5)http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5954&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=32
(Example of you trying but failing to start a flame war)
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When you respond to this post leave your fanciful Imperalistic bull**** about the "poor Isalmic extremists" who only want a home, out it it

BTW you should be proud of yourself, you haven't mentioned Deir Yassin yet.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

You have turned several threads into flame wars. Most recently you turned the thread “Mechanics of a Living Bomb,” into flame war.

2)Islamo-Fascism
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16415&highlight=
I dunno about this one Sayeret I would put the blame on RavenW for posting his inflammatory rhetoric to start with, lets be fair.

:)

[S'13]

ariweiner wrote:

Secondly, people of the Jewish tradition being barred from Saudi makes perfect sense

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16415&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=%5B%2Fquote%5D&start=16

I don't think there is any need to elaborate on this one...

[Sayeret]

Bacilluspolymyxa

I included that because I didn't include all the potential flame war articles that ariweiner posted such as:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16607&highlight=

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16435&highlight=

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16891&highlight=

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16731&highlight=

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16643&highlight=

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16183&highlight=

[UoUo]

What is wrong with that? Is not my above quoted statement true? The Nazis used Stars of David to single out Jews for discriminatory treatment just as the Israelis today use special license plates to single out Palestinians and non-Jews for discrimination in the Occupied Territories. I am not calling the Israeli's Nazis. I am saying that aspects of their behaviour reflect that of Nazi's.


rofl rofl rofl :cantbeli: :cantbeli:

I can't stop laughing.... rofl rofl

"use special license plates to single out Palestinians and non-Jews " rofl

You ignorant ****er... :cantbeli: :cantbeli:

[/McH\]

We also use special license plates to single out the UN. Damn, The Discrimination!! :lol: :lol:

[UoUo]

rofl

[AirZone]

Yeah thats one of the funniest **** I ever heard... even better than Hamas propaganda. Man you are some thing Ari ;)


AND FOR ****ING SAKE READ AGAIN!!!!!

It's not Israel giving them different plates its the PLO... trying to make them "different than Israel" hence making them independent "country"

but of course your "objective" websites tell you otherwise...

like 20,000 houses in rafah were destroyed (instand of 54)

you know what really gives me a laugh ? saying we are doing atrocities... like ?

did we ever rape ? killed on purpose ? destroyed on purpose ?
stole stuff from palastines house ?

GIVE ME FACTS FROM REAL NEWS and not from your baised websites please

If you will check news and photos you will see Israeli soldiers in Palastines house (the palastines still live in there and are not beeing kicked out) move all the palastines property in the house to another room so they wont scratch it or some thing and then when they finish they clean everything and put it back... (dunno about the couchs hehehe)

Did we ever raped kids? (you have no idea how much raping and so many pedophilic actions in there inside the palastines population)

we only destroyed couple of houses (hell we gave the palastines opportunity to demand to stop this in the supreme court of justice in israel even they are not ISRAELIS)

did we ever stole stuff ? (i cant say 100% didnt but 99%-98% dont becuase we have morals and if some commander catchs some one stealing he will be punished really hard)

destroying the road of the palastines becuase they plant IED inside the roads... yeah that atrocities....Typical Ignorant Troll (I give the first offical TIT award to ari)

[Javehn]

Hm...
As i understand now , it was done to avoid the huge car thieft problem that was rampaged on the territories (70 percent of the cars there are stollen from Israel . Hmm , didn't we talked about thiefes here , arik ? ) .
And the plates belong to Palestinian ministry of transport , not Israeli . Or we control them too rofl .

Your accusation are the funniest stuff i ever read (idiotic as well). You really expect someone to take you seriously ? You say that sources from that site (i take a look on it , and :cantbeli: ) .

[AirZone]

Nononono you dont understand! we are NAZI's ! we hate arbs... thats why we have Israeli Arbs in israel because we want to abuse them and kill them (strange an Israeli-Arb soccer team won the Israeli Cup :roll:)

[M_S]

M_S Wrote

Its a death threat

And however you wanna twist it, its still something for the moderators to fix banning ExtraT?

Oh really? And the Things Ariweiner said arent? :bash:


im not responsible for what airweiner wrote :bash:

[M_S]

Btw airweiner have not personally insulted anyone, but many have insulted him :slap:

[AirZone]

Calling any Jew a Nazi (and with a really poor and idiotic compare and not true) offending me perosnally! :-*$

[M_S]

Calling any Jew a Nazi (and with a really poor and idiotic compare and not true) offending me perosnally! :-*$


Read his comments about that, only he can explain what he meant.
He did not say Jews = Nazi, get over it and stop lying about that ;)

[ariweiner]

and tell me, why should I believe them over the CNN, BBC, Yahoo ?
They provide factual information and hence are much more reliable than CNN, BBC etc

quote:
Quote:
Israel isn't always an angel, but you just tell me when they start strapping TNT to their 13 year old children, OK?

ariweiner responded:
Quote:
It is to be noted that terrorist attacks are for the most part perpetrated in countries which are occupied or invaded.

Most occupied countries use suicide bombings? Name them
The point was that most suicide bombings take place in countries that are occupied by invaders(ex: Iraq, Palestine, Chechnya) and not that most occupied countries use suicide bombings.

Or what about those two Israeli 14-year-olds were stoned to death by Islamic Jihad. (You better not say some bull**** response that the Israeli government framed them like you did about that kid suicide bomber.)
If you will note, the Israeli MFA makes no mention of any perpetrator. They merely mention that two kids were found stoned to death.

And the Palestinians have, to my knowledge never deliberately targetted children. This cannot be said of the Israelis. There have been repeated attempts by Israeli settlers/murderers to bomb Palestinian girls schools.

Hmm ariweiner when I look up the massacre on google I seem to be ablr to find tons of info on it maybe the only reason you don't want to admit some of the atrocities carried out by Arabs.
I find tons of resources too but they all seem to be from right-wing Israeli sites and though their facts might be correct, I am unable, given the lack of sources from another view, to tell whether these are only partial facts or whether there is something that is not mentioned.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/diaries.shtml
Yeah I think we should all believe electronicintifada for fair and balanced news.
If you will note, the link was to direct eyewitness accounts and not to "news" as such.

Regarding the video in which a Russian civilian being tortured and beheaded you said:
Civilian all of a sudden? I thought he was supposed to be a soldier. Allegedly Russian.

Quote:
For all I know, that tape was a Chechen being tortured by the FSB. God knows that there are more than enough cases of that happening.
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That's just bs excuse and you know it, theres nothing else to say.
Like I said earlier, why not tell me why it is BS as opposed to just telling me that it is BS.

Quote:
You have called the Russians a
Quote:
tyrannical imperialistic terrorist state
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Based on the actions of the Russians in Chechnya, this is the only conclusion that I can come to.
Okaey good enough you admit just there you support terrorim against Russian civilians.
No I did not. Calling Russia's actions in Chechnya the actions of a tyrannical imperialistic terrorist state does not equal support for killing Russian civilians.

Quote:
What is wrong with that? Is not my above quoted statement true? The Nazis used Stars of David to single out Jews for discriminatory treatment just as the Israelis today use special license plates to single out Palestinians and non-Jews for discrimination in the Occupied Territories. I am not calling the Israeli's Nazis. I am saying that aspects of their behaviour reflect that of Nazi's.

Hmm lets think ariweiner whats wrong with comparing Jews to Nazis. Now are you comparing Jews to Nazis because you actually believe that or because you think that will get on people's nerves?
Because I actually believe it.

Heres a list of direspectful stuff you said
Quote:
Filthy Russian savages, you can see why they need to be exterminated from Chechnya
Note that I qualify my statement to those Russians who are in Chechnya.

That wasn't the point of the statement. The point of the statement is you didn't show respect towards one of the moderators.

Ariweiner wrote:
Quote:
Sincere question Argyll: Why is this attack uncondonable? It was a legitimate military attack against an invading and occupying army. We should be congratulating the Palestinians on targetting combatants. That's my view.
How is that question disrespectful to Argyll?

Ariweiner did you send that posting to all the moderators?
No since I was unsure as to exactly what Argyll meant by that.

(Example of you trying but failing to start a flame war)
Posting a link to Kavkaz Center is "trying to start a flame war"?
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I don't think there is any need to elaborate on this one...
Why are you only partially quoting me?
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I included that because I didn't include all the potential flame war articles that ariweiner posted such as
Every single one of the cited examples are articles that were found. Besides, every single thread on a conflict is a potential flame war.
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I can't stop laughing....

"use special license plates to single out Palestinians and non-Jews "

You ignorant f***...
See. Who's flaming here? And Why don't people actually tell me what they mean rather than calling me names.
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It's not Israel giving them different plates its the PLO... trying to make them "different than Israel" hence making them independent "country"
To the best of my knowledge, Israel issues the plates. Prove me wrong please.

but of course your "objective" websites tell you otherwise...

like 20,000 houses in rafah were destroyed (instand of 54)
Which website that I posted says that? And is 1,000 people made homeless acceptable to you?

saying we are doing atrocities... like ?

killed on purpose ? destroyed on purpose ?
stole stuff from palastines house ?
Those three, definitely yes. Go through the multiple eyewitness accounts related in Amnesty and HRW websites. You will find lots of examples of these.

If you will check news and photos you will see Israeli soldiers in Palastines house (the palastines still live in there and are not beeing kicked out) move all the palastines property in the house to another room so they wont scratch it or some thing and then when they finish they clean everything and put it back...
Hmm.

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50920058.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=D5C980AC33A35615E9455576EFC61F7CA9C30E9B9B114CE8
NABLUS, -: A Palestinian sort out his belongings at his home in the West Bank city of Nablus 03 June 2004 following an Israeli army raid.

we only destroyed couple of houses
"One of the 120 homes demolished by the IDF in the Brazil refugee camp belonged to architect Manal Awad. This was the third time since 1948 that her family has been left homeless - and the second time that Ariel Sharon was responsible." - Haaretz (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=434662)

[duck]

I'd like to have 100 grams of vodka with my chopped liver, please. And there seems to be a suicide bomber in the soup entré.

[AirZone]

To the best of my knowledge, Israel issues the plates. Prove me wrong please.
And you know why? Oslo says some thing? comparing us to the Nazis with this points shows how Ignorant and Anti-Jew/Israel you are
and how baised you are and how you are not OBJECTIVE at all!
oh and it also proves that you are kinda stupid and you dont know how we laughed from this rofl rofl rofl



Which website that I posted says that? And is 1,000 people made homeless acceptable to you?
1,000 people? check your numbers again...I dont want to tell you the same things again and again for crying out loud I dont think its right but some times you have to wash yourself dirty if you want to stop the terrorists (and miraculously we actually did it...go figure :cantbeli:)




Those three, definitely yes. Go through the multiple eyewitness accounts related in Amnesty and HRW websites. You will find lots of examples of these.
we never killed palastines because we are sadistic or unhuman and theres eyewitness of palastines.. right.. very objective..thier clerics tell them everyday we want to destory them and guess what it really works! its a war in there and unarmed people shouldnt be out protecting terrorists and then be suprised that they got a bullet in their ass because they are in the middle of a firefight (while Israel try to use snipers to took them out those crazy hamas mofos spray autos and mostly shot their own people).

About the houses theres an area we choose because they shot from there or use it for their tunnels if you will check you will see stories about some palastines that didnt want terrorists to do those stuff and tried to stop them and guess what ? the terrorists shot them... not to montion about IED that are planted inside the wall of the houses/roads

Stealing ? I remember when I heard about 2 peeps that stole some stuff and they are now in prison...unlike your buddys that stole 80% (not 70%) of the cars from Israel and they are walking freely. :roll:



Hmm.

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50920058.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=D5C980AC33A35615E9455576EFC61F7CA9C30E9B9B114CE8
NABLUS, -: A Palestinian sort out his belongings at his home in the West Bank city of Nablus 03 June 2004 following an Israeli army raid. Did you asked about the story behind this pic? so you say we are sadistic bastards and we are the devil himself just ruining houses like that ? hmmm... saying some thing about your prejudices...anti-semite? nooooooooooooooooooooooooo :cantbeli: of course not we were always like that.. those jews. Anyway on a serious note mabye Intel said theres weapons in that house? mabye they were under attack from RPGs ? (happens alot) Im not conviced untill I hear the true story.. not your eye witness, some thing more objective like our soldiers (and believe me we are mabye you dont heard about soldiers doing an exhibition of pics they took while in their service wanting to show the people in Israel what really happens in their...heard about jewish self blame?)



"One of the 120 homes demolished by the IDF in the Brazil refugee camp belonged to architect Manal Awad. This was the third time since 1948 that her family has been left homeless - and the second time that Ariel Sharon was responsible." - Haaretz (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=434662) thats couple... :roll: If we wanted we could have demolished the whole refugee camps but we didnt


anyway ari you are baised you hate us.. fine by me i really dont give a **** about some smartass thinks he know all while he never been in my shoes or arb shoes but dont start to spread your lies because some people will really start to believe you (heard about the anti-semite propaganda of the nazis?) like saying we give different colors of plates for the palastines because we want to distinguish them like the Nazis did...

GOD THATS THE STUPIEST THING I EVER HEARD...like mossad is in charge of 11/9... oh wait.. dont tell me.. you believe that too?



p.s.

I want to see arbs doing this...in a middle of a fire fight.
Oh I forgot they lynched 2 of our soldiers when they were in their hands... :roll:

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/photodir.php?photofile=Raids/Ramallah/043.jpg

Now dont tell me... in here the soldier use and explosive phone and attachs it to the poor palastine head so it will explode... :roll:

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/photodir.php?photofile=Raids/Ramallah/055.jpg

Oh and in here they inject lethal poison to kill those poor unarmed palastines

[Javehn]

Leave him alone , dude . This is how he see it .

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/photodir.php?photofile=Raids/Ramallah/052.jpg

And this is how he refuses to see it (couple of minutes later)

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/photodir.php?photofile=Raids/Ramallah/043.jpg

This is how he see it :

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/photodir.php?photofile=Raids/Ramallah/054.jpg

And this is how he don't want to see it (couple of minutes later under fire ) :

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/photodir.php?photofile=Raids/Ramallah/055.jpg


We don't owe him nothing , let it be . He thinks he knows better then us , when he points out the first , but neglects the second . He is the one sided , so let him be .

[/McH\]

And the Palestinians have, to my knowledge never deliberately targetted children. This cannot be said of the Israelis. There have been repeated attempts by Israeli settlers/murderers to bomb Palestinian girls schools.


H-E-L-L-O!!! Should i remind you the Suicide bombing at the Dolphinarium and the Terrorist whp killed a mother and her 4 daughters?!!!!! and what about the Baby who got shot by a Palastinian Sniper??

And the attemp to plant a bomb in a pali school was by Extermists, and they Arrested by ISRAEL!! Who stopped this attempt?? the Palis?? No! US!

:bash:

[Javehn]

yalla , yalla , let's live him alone . After that he don't deserve **** . He lives in his own state of trance , sheyamut habenzona , lo tsarih laanot lo .

to my knowledge never deliberately targetted children

[AirZone]

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl told to my friends about the lincese plates they couldnt stop laughing and asked if this guy is for real... man you are one stupid little fellow arnt you?


I guess he forgot all the kids that died... or like 4 kids i knew that died (and many injured)

[Javehn]

Lisence plates ....

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Is it me , or the "Star trek" has just found a new writter ? rofl rofl


ET , come back home .... :lol:
http://www.rpi.edu/~xiay/pic/2002/orlando/et.jpg

[Javehn]

Buuuu

[Javehn]

Check this out

http://www.bevelheaven.com/pix/BELLA_lisence.jpg

In USA lisence plates come with a state writting . Discrimination in USA !!!!
LICENSE PLATES APARTEHID !!!

rofl rofl rofl rofl

Dude , i must tell this to someone . People should know what kinda strange loonatics walking around in the world rofl rofl rofl rofl

[AirZone]

Nononono !!! the hamas never targeted kids.. they just want to destory Israel not the kids rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[mack pl]

Yeah, you all love Ariweiner :roll: p-)

[Javehn]

Hahahaha .....

rofl rofl rofl

http://www.comics-unlimited.com/downloads/wallpapers/star-trek-enterprise-wallpaper.jpg

Earth to Arieweiner , come in , you are braking out...

:roll:

[/McH\]

yalla , yalla , let's live him alone . After that he don't deserve **** . He lives in his own state of trance , sheyamut habenzona , lo tsarih laanot lo .

to my knowledge never deliberately targetted children

I dont see whats wrong with A State Of Trance, Armin Van Buuran is pretty good DJ :lol: :lol:


And "Star Trek" have a new writer?? I never loved star trek, and i dont thing i will love it now.. :lol:

[Javehn]

I dont see whats wrong with A State Of Trance, Armin Van Buuran is pretty good DJ

Son of a bitch !!!! This is the best damn track ever !!!! Heard about Ilumination ??

[AirZone]

Hahahaha .....

rofl rofl rofl

http://www.comics-unlimited.com/downloads/wallpapers/star-trek-enterprise-wallpaper.jpg

Earth to Arieweiner , come in , you are braking ...

:roll:

I hope he is... :lol:

תגיד גבר-גבר מה עם ימ"מ? מתי גיבוש?

[Javehn]

לא , לא הלך טוב :(
כנראה אני הולך בסוף על חבלה .


And "Star Trek" have a new writer?? I never loved star trek, and i dont thing i will love it now..

Trust me , I have no idea ;) . But it should be Ariesweiner , he has excellent imagination .

[/McH\]

I dont see whats wrong with A State Of Trance, Armin Van Buuran is pretty good DJ

Son of a bitch !!!! This is the best damn track ever !!!! Heard about Ilumination ??

State of Trance is his weekly program..

But Armin Van Buuran is a bit too "soft" for me, But i really like Rank 1

Rank 1 - Symsonic Owns them all woot

[Javehn]

I know dude , Radio Amsterdam or whatever . I have on of his programs taped on my computer , if you want i can pass it to you (it's more then 100 MB thought :)) .

I actually don't like Simsonic that much :( Too "hard" for me . :)
How about Quicksilver ? Or Scazy (don't like that **** at all ) ?

[AirZone]

If you want really good music.. http://sb2.mthN.net:8000/

Radio in germany.. they have the best club/trance ****!

#mth.sb2 in quakenet (irc)

אגב למה לא הלך טוב? עשית בכלל תגיבוש?

חבלה?! שיט נותנים לרוסי שיכור פצצה בידיים הוא יפוצץ חצי רחוב
;)

לא פלא רואים את כל הבתים הרוסים בשטחים
אתם בטח חגגתם עם הוודקה
:lol:

סתם בצחוק קיצר... בהצלחה!
תכין כמה פצצות בשביל ארי הנאצי
ושלח לו את זה בדואר
חיחיחי


אני מחכה לתשובות מגדנ"ע צלילה (עדיין)

[ExtraT]

Btw airweiner have not personally insulted anyone, but many have insulted him :slap:

FYI, some people consider slanderous racial remarks to be personal insults. You and airweiner repeatedly insulted Jews with your posts - so expect personal insults in return. Be grateful that this is a virtual forum, if it was face to face, I would have beaten you to a pulp a long time ago.

[ExtraT]

And the Palestinians have, to my knowledge never deliberately targetted children.


You knowledge is very limited, since you rely on propaganda websites for your "facts". I, for example, can give you at least one suicide bombing that I have personally witnessed that deliberately targeted school children - by sheer luck the terrorist missed by about 5 minutes or so.


Now, if I give you a full account of that case, will you accept it as fact, and change your opinion about "pals" targetting children? Or will you dismiss it because I happen to be a right-wing Israeli?

And why an "eye witness account" posted on electronicintifada is more reliable in your eyes than accounts and reports posted on right-wing Israeli websites?
Applying double standards again, eh? :bash:

[S'13]

Check this out

http://www.bevelheaven.com/pix/BELLA_lisence.jpg

In USA lisence plates come with a state writting . Discrimination in USA !!!!
LICENSE PLATES APARTEHID !!!

rofl rofl rofl rofl

Dude , i must tell this to someone . People should know what kinda strange loonatics walking around in the world rofl rofl rofl rofl

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/jpglps/AS_Palestine.jpg

The horror, the horror... rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl p-)

[Javehn]

HAHAHAHAHA rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I see here very repeating motive ....
http://www.inreview.com/archive/topic/16143.html
License plates are also appearing there rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

AntiZionist there very looks allike like our Arieswiner ;) .

But the way , if i am not mistaken , Arieswiner said that the plates are the same looking as it was in 1995 . Nice one , ET . :lol: :lol:

Here it is :

From what I am aware, Palestinians are still issued license plates based on race. I think Israel got the idea from the Nazi's.

I see where he got the lying gene from .... rofl

Oh my god , license plates , license plates , where are thy ...

[S'13]

HAHAHAHAHA rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I see here very repeating motive ....
http://www.inreview.com/archive/topic/16143.html
License plates are also appearing there rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

AntiZionist there very looks allike like our Arieswiner ;) .

But the way , if i am not mistaken , Arieswiner said that the plates are the same looking as it was in 1995 . Another bloff on the air . :lol: :lol:

What the f***, did that guy write "Jewish Arabs"?!

:cantbeli: rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[Javehn]

Holly **** , i just noticed it !! Jewish Arabs !! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Man , this article :cantbeli: rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl



Makes perfect sence rofl

[AirZone]

Ignorant trolls... to much fo them in our world :(

[AirZone]

Holly **** , i just noticed it !! Jewish Arabs !! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Man , this article :cantbeli: rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl



Makes perfect sence rofl Dont you know.... It's an Arb land so we are Arbs too...means the Palastines are infact Hebrews? because it was the land of the Hebrews?

rofl rofl rofl

[Nizark]

Ya know, we should start a chatroom over AIM or yahoo or one of those chatting programs...might be easier to vent if everyone is there at the same time. Otherwise, get over it all. So many people talk so much **** on the site, then when its time for **** to be talked about something they care about, they freak out. I mean, an entire thread about one dude, and how he's an asshole? Grow thicker skin or get the hell out of here

[M_S]

Btw airweiner have not personally insulted anyone, but many have insulted him :slap:

FYI, some people consider slanderous racial remarks to be personal insults. You and airweiner repeatedly insulted Jews with your posts - so expect personal insults in return. Be grateful that this is a virtual forum, if it was face to face, I would have beaten you to a pulp a long time ago.'


How old are you? 15?

[Sayeret]

Ariweiner your nothing but a liar and revisionist of history. You’re a joke and its too bad so many people take your seriously or for that matter pay attention to you. You ignore anything that you don’t like in history and believe something You haven no respect for the dead unless the dead is a Palestinian or Chechenian. When the two an Israeli children were killed you deny it, when that Russian was beheaded you deny it. It’s a shame theirs idiots like you running around who can’t except that the Palestinians are targeting children or that the Chechens torture Russian civilians. You NEVER except things that makes the Palestinians or the Chechens look really bad. Suicide bombings you accept because there are too many of them for but say if there had only been ten you’d say the Russians did it, or no no it wasn’t Palestinians it was Pakistanis did or some lame response. If you want to know why people are pissed off at you its because you say crap like the Palestinians weren’t responsible for those two dead kids and things like this show how you have no respect towards the dead unless the dead are terrorists. Remember how I said


Or what about those two Israeli 14-year-olds were stoned to death by Islamic Jihad. (You better not say some bullsh*t response that the Israeli government framed them like you did about that kid suicide bomber.)

The reason I added the thing about the bullsh*t response is because I knew you would have one since you don’t care if innocent Israelis are killed only Palestinians and you would give some lame response. Are you still confused maybe calling
Filthy Russian savages, you can see why they need to be exterminated from Chechnya, pissed off some people. Comparing Jews to Nazis probably pissed some people off too but I bet from what you have shown me of your intelligence before you don’t understand why. Or maybe denying that an Arab mob massacred sixty-seven inncoent Jewish men, women, and children ion Hebron pissed off some people.

You have proven yourself to have no respect for innocent Russians and Israelis killed by terrorist. In your screwed up brain you must believe that no matter what the weaker side in a conflict is always right and that is why you support the Palestinians, Chechens, and terrorists in Algeria is ALWAYS right. So even if the weaker side murders, burns, mutilates the civilians on the stronger side you will support them by just saying that it never happened. Thats why earlier I told you that you have a screwed up sense of morality you believe it is okay for Russian and Israeli civilians to purposely targeted and in no circumstance is it okay for Russian and Israelis to accidently kill them. I have no more respect for you, none whatsoever.

BTW good job you still haven't mentioned Deir Yassin

[ExtraT]

Btw airweiner have not personally insulted anyone, but many have insulted him :slap:

FYI, some people consider slanderous racial remarks to be personal insults. You and airweiner repeatedly insulted Jews with your posts - so expect personal insults in return. Be grateful that this is a virtual forum, if it was face to face, I would have beaten you to a pulp a long time ago.'


How old are you? 15?

So, I guess you consider ignoring of racial insults to be a sign of maturity?
FYI, most of nazi propaganda against Jews was nothing more than reiteration of old juvenile insults. But 6 million people got killed as a result of it.
But I guess you know that all to well, eh?

Oh, and BTW: I'm 26.

[Javehn]

Don't forget dude , as alex mentioned . According to Ariesweiner perverted logic , there should no be any nation today called German . Because for what they did to the jews , they should have smashed them down to the ground in millions by millions .

[Sayeret]

Don't forget dude , as alex mentioned . According to Ariesweiner perverted logic , there should no be any nation today called German . Because for what they did to the jews , they should have smashed them down to the ground in millions by millions .

Javehn he's proven himself over and over that he has a double standard. He has no respect for Jews, just like how he has no respect towards the Russians or for that matter anyone else who fighters terrorism, and thats why in his view Germany still exists.

[RomanS]

Ariweiner,

Is Shamil Basaev a terrorist?

When he went to Budennovsk, and took a hospital with pregnant women in summer of 1995, he also executed a bunch of them to make a point. He promiced to blow up the entire building if Russians won't stop bombing his mudjahadeen in the mountains.
Does this qualify him as a terrorist?

I NEED TO HEAR YOUR OPINION


When Raduev went to Kizlyar, and took a village full of hostages, he also executed over a hunderd of them to make a point. Does this make him terrorist?

I need you opinion on this one too.


When Movsar Baraev with the Chechen Martyr Brigade took hostages in the Moscow theater. Does this make him terrorist?

tell me

[Secret Squirrel]

Btw airweiner have not personally insulted anyone, but many have insulted him :slap:

FYI, some people consider slanderous racial remarks to be personal insults. You and airweiner repeatedly insulted Jews with your posts - so expect personal insults in return. Be grateful that this is a virtual forum, if it was face to face, I would have beaten you to a pulp a long time ago.'


How old are you? 15?

So, I guess you consider ignoring of racial insults to be a sign of maturity?
FYI, most of nazi propaganda against Jews was nothing more than reiteration of old juvenile insults. But 6 million people got killed as a result of it.
But I guess you know that all to well, eh?

Oh, and BTW: I'm 26.

Actually it wasnt just reiteration of old juvenile insults; it was eugenics aka social darwinism and it wasnt limited to Nazi Germany.

[Fintin]

BIG ****


thank you for ****ting...dont forget to whipe

[ariweiner]

1,000 people? check your numbers again...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3747069.stm

Did you asked about the story behind this pic?
Based on the testimonies of Palestinians given to HRW, Amnesty and B'tselem, I can only assume that Israeli soldiers for the most part are behaving in an extremely unprofessional and even hooligan type way. Check out http://www.btselem.org/ under "Testimonies."

"One of the 120 homes demolished by the IDF in the Brazil refugee camp belonged to architect Manal Awad. This was the third time since 1948 that her family has been left homeless - and the second time that Ariel Sharon was responsible." - Haaretz
thats couple... icon_rolleyes.gif If we wanted we could have demolished the whole refugee camps but we didnt
120 homes is a couple? Maybe you ought to check a dictionary.

like saying we give different colors of plates for the palastines because we want to distinguish them like the Nazis did...

GOD THATS THE STUPIEST THING I EVER HEARD
http://nigelparry.com/diary/ramallah/plates.html

like mossad is in charge of 11/9... oh wait.. dont tell me.. you believe that too?
No, I don't believe that Mossad was behind 9/11. I do believe however that Mossad knew about the 9/11 plot before it happened.

Now dont tell me... in here the soldier use and explosive phone and attachs it to the poor palastine head so it will explode..
Oh and in here they inject lethal poison to kill those poor unarmed palastines
Single photos of good behaviour don't account for literally hundreds of accounts of Palestinians in various human rights reports who have stated that they were ill-treated, beaten, tortured, had their possessions stolen, were made to wait in the hot sun for hours and also were refused water and a chance to go to the bathroom for hours on end. All of these reports (See B'Tselem above link)leave me very unconvinced that the Israeli troops are generally good to the Palestinians. Maybe when the camera's are around the situation changes...

H-E-L-L-O!!! Should i remind you the Suicide bombing at the Dolphinarium and the Terrorist whp killed a mother and her 4 daughters?!!!!! and what about the Baby who got shot by a Palastinian Sniper??
The Dolphinarium was a night club right? Which presumably stops people under-18 or under-21 or whatever the age limit is from entering. Hence I would not classify the people there as children. Secondly, I remember reading that many of those in the Dolphinarum were off duty soldiers. About the killing the settler and her children, I understood that they were firing at the car from the roadside and hence would just be targetting "a settler's car."
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I'll ignore the off-topic posts on Star Trek and outer space...

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You knowledge is very limited, since you rely on propaganda websites for your "facts". I, for example, can give you at least one suicide bombing that I have personally witnessed that deliberately targeted school children - by sheer luck the terrorist missed by about 5 minutes or so.
Which one was this?
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When the two an Israeli children were killed you deny it,
I pointed out that the Israeli Foreign Affairs Ministry makes NO mention of the perpetrators.

when that Russian was beheaded you deny it.
I have no info to tell me who the people in the video are. For all I know it is one of these clever fake "snuff" videos that are all over the internet.

In your screwed up brain you must believe that no matter what the weaker side in a conflict is always right and that is why you support the Palestinians, Chechens, and terrorists in Algeria is ALWAYS right.
Please go back and read my posts on these subjects. You will see that I am not supporting terrorists in any fashion. Pointing out the atrocities of governments that are supposedly anti-terrorist is not supporting terrorism.

Thats why earlier I told you that you have a screwed up sense of morality you believe it is okay for Russian and Israeli civilians to purposely targeted and in no circumstance is it okay for Russian and Israelis to accidently kill them
The trouble is that these "accidents" in fact reflect a complete disregard on the side of the Russian and Israeli forces for the lives of civilians living in the areas that they occupy. Go to any human rights report and you will find systematic and repeated abuses being mentioned. Even Israeli soldiers themselves have admitted it(I posted this article previously but you just dismissed it)

BTW good job you still haven't mentioned Deir Yassin
Why is it a good job may I ask?
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According to Ariesweiner perverted logic , there should no be any nation today called German . Because for what they did to the jews , they should have smashed them down to the ground in millions by millions .
How does "my logic" call for the destruction of Germany?
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He has no respect for Jews
I have plenty of respect for the people who earn that respect. But somehow I find it very difficult to respect people who are carrying out an illegal occupation, displacing people from their homes and abusing them and systematically trying to destroy them while grabbing their land.

These Jews (www.nkusa.org) have my respect though.
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Is Shamil Basaev a terrorist?
No, he is not.


When he went to Budennovsk, and took a hospital with pregnant women in summer of 1995, he also executed a bunch of them to make a point. He promiced to blow up the entire building if Russians won't stop bombing his mudjahadeen in the mountains.
Does this qualify him as a terrorist?
No, Budennovsk was one of the reasons that Russia withdrew from Chechnya which saved thousands of lives that would otherwise have been snuffed out by Russian imperialism. Secondly, the hostages who were killed were killed due to the bungling of the Alfa and Vympel assault. Similar to the Moscow Theatre.

When Raduev went to Kizlyar, and took a village full of hostages, he also executed over a hunderd of them to make a point. Does this make him terrorist?
I am unsure of Salman Raduev since I am not very familiar with his actions. Innocent till proven guilty however. And a sham Russian court doesn't convince me of guilt. As does being tortured to death in Russian prisons.

When Movsar Baraev with the Chechen Martyr Brigade took hostages in the Moscow theater. Does this make him terrorist?
No he is not a terrorist. From the accounts that I have read, the mujahideen led by him had ample time to blow up the explosives but did not do so. It is clear to me that he was only doing what he did according to what he had said viz. to draw attention to Russian state terrorism in Chechnya.

[Javehn]

The Dolphinarium was a night club right? Which presumably stops people under-18 or under-21 or whatever the age limit is from entering. Hence I would not classify the people there as children. Secondly, I remember reading that many of those in the Dolphinarum were off duty soldiers. About the killing the settler and her children, I understood that they were firing at the car from the roadside and hence would just be targetting "a settler's car."

Congratulation cocksmoker , almost all of those where 15-16 years old , and one of them was my friend . God i wish i would **** you up now like it ain't no sweat .

אני לא מאמין !!! איזה בן זונה !!!!!!!!!!! אני לא מאמין !!!!!!!!

I ****ing can't bellieve sane person said that . ****ing can't . I can't bellieve someone actually said it . Unbellievable .

[/McH\]

The Dolphinarium was a night club right? Which presumably stops people under-18 or under-21 or whatever the age limit is from entering. Hence I would not classify the people there as children. Secondly, I remember reading that many of those in the Dolphinarum were off duty soldiers. About the killing the settler and her children, I understood that they were firing at the car from the roadside and hence would just be targetting "a settler's car."


IDIOT!!! THEKIDS AT THE DOLPHINARIUM WERE 15-16 YEARS OLD!!! OFF DUTY SOLDIERS?!! NO SOLDIERS WERE THERE! ONLY TEENAGERS WHO WANTED TO HAVE FUN!

AND THE TERRORIST WHO KILLED THE 4 GIRLS CAME TO THE CAR AND CONFIRMED THEY ARE ALL DEAD!! AND SO WHAT IF IT WAS A SETTLERS CAR?!! THEY ARE NOT CIVILANS?!!

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

[Moledet]

BTW, arieweiner, I won't trust a palestinian "witnes" for a second. They tell a lot of lies because they know how important the media is and what the media is looking for.
And as an American you can't realy criticise our actions because your country's actions are worse, much worse.

[ariweiner]

almost all of those where 15-16 years old
Less than half were 15-16 years old. Of the 21 people who were killed 10 were 15 or 16 and 11 were 17 and up. Either way I am not supporting or condoning this attack. I am saying that terrorists do not deliberately target children. I am sorry about your friend.

[Javehn]

Shut the **** up and give me your adress .

[ariweiner]

BTW, arieweiner, I won't trust a palestinian "witnes" for a second. They tell a lot of lies because they know how important the media is and what the media is looking for.
But if you look at the reports in B'tSelem and HRW, the witness reports are completely consistent with evidence on the ground. The reporters themselves have witnessed such treatment so I would not be so quick to dismiss Palestinians as liars.

And as an American you can't realy criticise our actions because your country's actions are worse, much worse.
At least Americans try to recognise and rectify the wrongs that have been done. Not recently, perhaps, but we have done so. For example giving African Americans their rights, compensating Native Americans for their land etc. Israel has done non of this from what I know.

[ariweiner]

Shut the f*** up and give me your adress .
I would gladly give you my address provided that it is you who are seriously intending to visit me. I live in the West Coast USA. E-mail me at ariweiner@yahoo.com for a specific address.

[Sayeret]

Ariweiner I'm not going to fall into trap to argue you about the Israeli-Arab conflict but the point is you support terrorists. You support Palestinian, Chechen, Algerian, and prolly tons of others but just haven't told me. You have no respsect for anyone who don't have your views and insult them by comparing them to nazis or saying that they are savages that need to be exterminated. Your nothing but a revisonist who can't explain the things that he is asked.

The only point of this post is to get you banned and thats what its going to do. This site isn't for people who support people who support the murder innocent civilians.

Go to this forum and stop ruining this one. This forum is for people who like mass murderers and terrorists.

http://massmurder.zyns.com/forums

[Moledet]

At least Americans try to recognise and rectify the wrongs that have been done. Not recently, perhaps, but we have done so. For example giving African Americans their rights, compensating Native Americans for their land etc. Israel has done non of this from what I know.
Then you know nothing.
And I'm talking about American LIC (Iraq), you are not doing better.

[Javehn]

Shut the f*** up and give me your adress .
I would gladly give you my address provided that it is you who are seriously intending to visit me. I live in the West Coast USA. E-mail me at ariweiner@yahoo.com for a specific address.

Trust me , not only me . I emailed you , let's see if you are serious .

[ariweiner]

but the point is you support terrorists.
Show me where I have supported terrorists! I have always condemned terrorism.

Your nothing but a revisonist who can't explain have the things that he is asked.
I have explained everything that I have come across and my statements are consistent with each other.

The only point of this post is to get you banned and thats what its going to do.
I really don't think that I have done anything that is in violation of the rules of this site, so why would the admins ban me? I have offered my opinions just as you have offered yours.

This site isn't for people who support people who support the murder innocent civilians.
I have never supported the murder of innocent civilians.

Go to this forum and stop ruining this one. This forum is for people who like mass murderers and terrorists.
Unfortunately the link doesn't work for me...

[AirZone]

I couldn't believe some one even said it to... I guess this lunatic lives in his own world.

sad :|

[ariweiner]

And I'm talking about American LIC (Iraq), you are not doing better.
Even in the American occupation of Iraq, we are doing better than the Israelis. At least we aren't settling American civilians unto stolen Iraqi land. Though that's about the only thing that can be said.

Javehn, check your email.

[AirZone]

but the point is you support terrorists.
Show me where I have supported terrorists! I have always condemned terrorism.

Your nothing but a revisonist who can't explain have the things that he is asked.
I have explained everything that I have come across and my statements are consistent with each other.

The only point of this post is to get you banned and thats what its going to do.
I really don't think that I have done anything that is in violation of the rules of this site, so why would the admins ban me? I have offered my opinions just as you have offered yours.

This site isn't for people who support people who support the murder innocent civilians.
I have never supported the murder of innocent civilians.

Go to this forum and stop ruining this one. This forum is for people who like mass murderers and terrorists.
Unfortunately the link doesn't work for me...

Hypocrite :bash:

[Sayeret]

Unfortunately the link doesn't work for me...

What a shame I guess you were looking forward to looking at it.


I really don't think that I have done anything that is in violation of the rules of this site, so why would the admins ban me?

You have shown no respect to people who have different opinions than your own by calling them savages and theives.

1. Be civil to your fellow forum user. They'll respect you if you respect them.

Comparing Jews to Nazis sure doesn't help. Since you could've compared Jews to any other tyrannical regimes and you chose Nazis most likely to annoy the Jewish posters.

4. Don't use racial slurs.

I already showed you tons of threads in which you started flame wars

6. Don't hijack a good conversation thread with an off-topic political or flame war. Posts of this nature will be deleted from now on.


Also you showed no respect to Argyll otherwise he wouldn't of said:

that is bull**** and you know it,it was carried out by a Terrorist Orginisation.

Please PM Hood and repeat to him what you just posted here,in fact please PM all the Moderators and repeat what you just posted here.

What you have done is made a post designed to start a Flame war.

I'm locking this one temporary,so that Marmot can make a post to ask his fellow Poles a question on an open forum

You still haven't sent what made him say it to the other mods did you?

[AirZone]

And I'm talking about American LIC (Iraq), you are not doing better.
Even in the American occupation of Iraq, we are doing better than the Israelis. At least we aren't settling American civilians unto stolen Iraqi land. Though that's about the only thing that can be said.

Javehn, check your email. Thats what you think...I guess in your own fantasy world.. why USA is in there you know ? ever heard about Oil?

Why Israel is in the territories? i bet you think becuase we are sadistic greedy jews... but infact we are stopping (and stopped) thousands of terrorist acts!

[Moledet]

And I'm talking about American LIC (Iraq), you are not doing better.
Even in the American occupation of Iraq, we are doing better than the Israelis. At least we aren't settling American civilians unto stolen Iraqi land. Though that's about the only thing that can be said.

Javehn, check your email.
I think that you should go over the Iraqi dead civilians list and your attacks on civilian buildings and religious sites. Also you use liethal force like Helicopters and Jet fighters that carry tons of weapons in Iraqi cities. It's a fact that we killed less civilians in 3 years and 8 months then US killed in one year and 2 months.

[ariweiner]

You have shown no respect to people who have different opinions than your own by calling them savages and theives.
I called the Russians in Chechnya, savages, and the Israelis intentionally living on stolen Palestinian land, thieves. I was not addressing any member of this forum specifically.

Comparing Jews to Nazis sure doesn't help. Since you could've compared Jews to any other tyrannical regimes and you chose Nazis most likely to annoy the Jewish posters.
I didn't compare Jews to Nazis. I compared a specific action of Israeli occupation to a specific action of the Nazis.

You still haven't sent what made him say it to the other mods did you?
No I haven't. I didn't understand what he said(perhaps he was being sarcastic).

[AirZone]

almost all of those where 15-16 years old
Less than half were 15-16 years old. Of the 21 people who were killed 10 were 15 or 16 and 11 were 17 and up. Either way I am not supporting or condoning this attack. I am saying that terrorists do not deliberately target children. I am sorry about your friend. Does that matter?! they were murdered!

And who said they dont targeting children deliberately? ONLY YOU! even the Hamas said they are targeting everyone...even kids (like the mother and 4 little kids that died in 0-range)

Mabye you hide behind you high words but i see how distorted is your mind.

THERE IS NO BLACK AND WHITE in our conflict... only many shades of grey...

[ariweiner]

Thats what you think...I guess in your own fantasy world.. why USA is in there you know ? ever heard about Oil?
The US is not in Iraq for altruistic motives, that is obvious. And the fact that they want to secure the oil, that is also obvious. But what I am saying is that despite all that, the entire US operation's goal is not to abuse and oppress the Iraqi's though that might be implied.

Why Israel is in the territories? i bet you think becuase we are sadistic greedy jews... but infact we are stopping (and stopped) thousands of terrorist acts!
What about all the settlements and their expansion schemes? Those are somehow protecting Israel? Hell, no, they are increasing the likelihood of terrorist attacks and not decreasing it.

[ariweiner]

even the Hamas said they are targeting everyone...even kids (like the mother and 4 little kids that died in 0-range)
Where did they say this? And show me a reliable source that says that those kids were killed point blank range. Only the Israeli right wing propagandists have made this claim.

[AirZone]

You have shown no respect to people who have different opinions than your own by calling them savages and theives.
I called the Russians in Chechnya, savages, and the Israelis intentionally living on stolen Palestinian land, thieves. I was not addressing any member of this forum specifically.

Comparing Jews to Nazis sure doesn't help. Since you could've compared Jews to any other tyrannical regimes and you chose Nazis most likely to annoy the Jewish posters.
I didn't compare Jews to Nazis. I compared a specific action of Israeli occupation to a specific action of the Nazis.

You still haven't sent what made him say it to the other mods did you?
No I haven't. I didn't understand what he said(perhaps he was being sarcastic). ok about us thieves... please check history and see who bought those land... who made them normal to settle at...Hell Israel had only small parts of Israel...and in Haifa Arbs lived but the war that the Arb countries started messed all up... and now you blame for wining the war because we didnt want another holocost...gosh im just amazed from your ignorance


Guess ignorance is a bliss after all :roll:

[AirZone]

even the Hamas said they are targeting everyone...even kids (like the mother and 4 little kids that died in 0-range)
Where did they say this? And show me a reliable source that says that those kids were killed point blank range. Only the Israeli right wing propagandists have made this claim. Im not sure that you are even real..
Check your Haaretz you so love to quote.. im not wasting any of my time for your foolish and distorted views.

[Moledet]

even the Hamas said they are targeting everyone...even kids (like the mother and 4 little kids that died in 0-range)
Where did they say this? And show me a reliable source that says that those kids were killed point blank range. Only the Israeli right wing propagandists have made this claim.
The Palestinians managed to shoot all of them in the foreheads while they were driving a car. Can you explain me how it is possible to do that without going to them after the attack and shooting each one of them?
The palestinians also entered Israeli houses and went to the rooms and shot the parents, then they went to the children rooms and shot all the kids while they were sleeping (some of them ofcourse woke up after few shots so they just executed them).

[Javehn]

Leave the ****er alone and better tell me who lives here in USA , and wants to kick his sorry ass . Thought i pretty much shure that this pussy gave me wrong adress , don't you wuss ?

[ariweiner]

ok about us thieves... please check history and see who bought those land...
I am not referring to the land that was legitimately bought. I am referring to the land that was stolen from Palestinian refugees who fled the land after massacres,killings and pressure from Irgun, Haganah etc.

[ariweiner]

Leave the f*** alone and better tell me who lives here in USA , and wants to kick his sorry ass
First of all you promised something. Secondly I was under the impression that it was YOU who wanted to visit me. So...

[AirZone]

even the Hamas said they are targeting everyone...even kids (like the mother and 4 little kids that died in 0-range)
Where did they say this? And show me a reliable source that says that those kids were killed point blank range. Only the Israeli right wing propagandists have made this claim.
The Palestinians managed to shoot all of them in the foreheads while they were driving a car. Can you explain me how it is possible to do that without going to them after the attack and shooting each one of them?
The palestinians also entered Israeli houses and went to the rooms and shot the parents, then they went to the children rooms and shot all the kids while they were sleeping (some of them ofcourse woke up after few shots so they just executed them). Nononono you dont understand... the palastines carried away in the heat of battle and shot those kids (mostly babies) they never ment too :roll:


perverted asshole..

[AirZone]

ok about us thieves... please check history and see who bought those land...
I am not referring to the land that was legitimately bought. I am referring to the land that was stolen from Palestinian refugees who fled the land after massacres,killings and pressure from Irgun, Haganah etc. So how you can explain all the Israeli arbs from the north to the south? or friends of mine that live near me? (I live Haifa.. Arbs live near Jews)


now of course you will say Dir Yassin... and we all know (I bet even beny moris) that there was a real battle in there...

[Javehn]

Leave the f*** alone and better tell me who lives here in USA , and wants to kick his sorry ass
First of all you promised something. Secondly I was under the impression that it was YOU who wanted to visit me. So...

Don't worry peace of **** , i am not going to post it . I am going to tell it . There is a difference , and you will feel it on your sorry ass .

Trust me , i myself will not able to make that damage i want you to feel . Of mine friend that was blown off . I want you to feel as close as you can to it , peace of **** .

Is that your real adress ?

[AirZone]

Leave the f*** alone and better tell me who lives here in USA , and wants to kick his sorry ass
First of all you promised something. Secondly I was under the impression that it was YOU who wanted to visit me. So...

Don't worry peace of **** , i am not going to post it . I am going to tell it . There is a difference , and you will feel it on your sorry ass . What about Russian Texan.. im sure his bored or some thing and wants some action :lol:


או שפשוט אפשר לשאול את חבר שלי לפרוץ לו למחשב ולעשות לו חגיגה... rofl rofl

[Moledet]

What about all the settlements and their expansion schemes? Those are somehow protecting Israel? Hell, no, they are increasing the likelihood of terrorist attacks and not decreasing it.
The settlements protects Israel. They are a barrier between Israel and the terrorists. Every settlement is like an army outpost that soldiers are in and they have realy good view on their envoirment so they can stop terrorists if they try to enter Israel.
They are also being a target to the terrorists, instead of trying to attack inside Israel the terrorists try to attack settlements that are well protected (unlike a coffee shop deep inside Israel that is not protected) and they fail most of the times.
In addition the settlements prevent them from shooting Qasam rockets on Israel cities (Ashkelon and even Tel Aviv from the west bank).

[Javehn]

עזוב מחשב , אני רוצה שהבנזונה ירגיש את הכאב חזק . הקטע שאין לי איך להגיע עליו בזמן הקרוב :lol:

[AirZone]

What about all the settlements and their expansion schemes? Those are somehow protecting Israel? Hell, no, they are increasing the likelihood of terrorist attacks and not decreasing it.
The settlements protects Israel. They are a barrier between Israel and the terrorists. Every settlement is like an army outpost that soldiers are in and they have realy good view on their envoirment so they an stop terrorists if they try to enter Israel.
They are also being a target to the terrorists, instead of trying to attack inside Israel they try to attack settlements that are well protected (unlike a coffee shop deep inside Israel that is not protected) and they fail most of the times.
In addition the settlements prevent them from shooting Qasam rockets on Israel cities (Ashkelon and even Tel Aviv from the west bank). Dont forget Israel wants peace and quiet so we are going to pull out from Gaza... and sooner or later it will be Yehuda and Samaria settlements...to think we are giving our REAL Hebrew heritage :|

[ariweiner]

The settlements are nothing more than an effort to solidify control of the occupied territories. You can see that the Israeli government is vey eager to widen settlement building as much as possible precisely to preclude the establishment of a Palestinian state. Look at any map of settlement activity and you can see this easily.

[Moledet]

The settlements are nothing more than an effort to solidify control of the occupied territories. You can see that the Israeli government is vey eager to widen settlement building as much as possible precisely to preclude the establishment of a Palestinian state. Look at any map of settlement activity and you can see this easily.
Palestinian state? Oh you mean Jordan, we don't have settlements in Jordan.

[AirZone]

The settlements are nothing more than an effort to solidify control of the occupied territories. You can see that the Israeli government is vey eager to widen settlement building as much as possible precisely to preclude the establishment of a Palestinian state. Look at any map of settlement activity and you can see this easily.
Palestinian state? Oh you mean Jordan, we don't have settlements in Jordan. :lol:

Ignore the troll please...

תעזוב אותו אחי לבן זונה הזה לא מגיע שום יחס
תסבירו לי איך מישהו נורמלי אומר שהמחבלים לא הורגים ילדים במכוון שעד עכשיו חרוט בזכרוני הפיגוע במקסים

או האבא שאבד את 2 התאומים הקטנים שלו ואת אשתו

תסבירו לי?!?!?!

[Javehn]

Leave this ****er alone rofl rofl rofl rofl .

You will not bellieve this ****er . He invited me to his Muslim (surprise ) naighborhood , and he gave me an adress . He sais : This is an adress of my Mosque , i am visiting there 5 times a day , hold me there . The navie **** wants me to came intime of their prairs while the entire naigborhood is Allahu Akbaring there . How stupid do you think people are , Arieswiner ? rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[RomanS]

while the entire naigborhood is Allahu Akbaring there .

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

rofl rofl rofl

[ariweiner]

How stupid do you think people are , Arieswiner ?
This is why I told you to provide me with your own date and time. :roll:

[AirZone]

Leave this f*** alone rofl rofl rofl rofl .

You will not bellieve this f*** . He invited me to his Muslim (surprise ) naighborhood , and he gave me an adress . He sais : This is an adress of my Mosque , i am visiting there 5 times a day , hold me there . The navie f*** wants me to came intime of their prairs while the entire naigborhood is Allahu Akbaring there . How stupid do you think people are , Arieswiner ? rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl just bring your YAMAS friends and you'll be allright :D

[ExtraT]

The Dolphinarium was a night club right? Which presumably stops people under-18 or under-21 or whatever the age limit is from entering. Hence I would not classify the people there as children.


You are just an idiot. You don't even bother yourself with reading official statistics of the bombing. If you have, you would have seen that most of the victims were 15-16 year old teenagers.



About the killing the settler and her children, I understood that they were firing at the car from the roadside and hence would just be targetting "a settler's car."


No, they first fired on the car, then approached it, and fired point blank at it's occupants. Execution style. It was especially easy for them, considering that the children were strapped into child seats.




I, for example, can give you at least one suicide bombing that I have personally witnessed that deliberately targeted school children...
Which one was this?


The bombing in Afula on April 6th 1994.
The attack was carried out by means of explosive-laden car, driven by a suicide bomber. The target - a bus stop about 30 meters away from a public school (grades 7 through 9). The timing was calculated to coincide with the end of a school day, when about 60-70 students croud up on the station, waiting for a bus to the suburbrs of Afula-Illit or Givat-Hamore. Luckily (if you can call 8 people killed "luck"), the terrorist struck about 5 minutes too early, and bombed a different, much less crowded bus.
One of the victims of this attack was a mother of my friend.

This was a deliberately planned and carefully executed attack on school children that by sheer luck did not fully succeed.

Enough for ya?

[citizen-k]

ariweiner, dude, share the ganja!

It's not polite to smoke it all on your own!

[Moledet]

ariweiner, dude, share the ganja!

It's not polite to smoke it all on your own!
Please call it "Kana bosem" that's the name of it in the bible (Shmot, chapter 30 sentence 23) :)

*Shmot is the 2nd Torah book, I have no clue what is the name of it in the translated books.

[ExtraT]

Here is the address of this mosque, and it's website:

Masjid An-Noor (Affiliate of MCA) 1755 Catherine Avenue, Santa Clara, CA 95050 (408)246-9822
http://www.mca-sfba.org/

Enjoy. ;)

[ariweiner]

Anyone who wants to meet me. Email me a time and date and come to the above address.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Here is the address of this mosque, and it's website:

Masjid An-Noor (Affiliate of MCA) 1755 Catherine Avenue, Santa Clara, CA 95050 (408)246-9822
http://www.mca-sfba.org/

Enjoy. ;)
Is this smart posting this info we would not want any DumbF*ck Irv Rubin types out there getting a handle on this. :(

[Moledet]

Anyone who wants to meet me. Email me a time and date and come to the above address.
So you are a preacher? I realy hope that you don't learn them this kind of crap that you are writing here. If all the preachers are like you it's no wonder that the attacks against Jews in the US has been raising.

BTW, the Muazin is also a preacher or he just tell you to come and pray?

[ariweiner]

A very good thing I didn't send Javehn my real address. As for a Rubin-type guy coming in. Knowing what I know, it is difficult to imagine that happening here. You'll have to be inside the Mosque in order to know why.


So you are a preacher? I realy hope that you don't learn them this kind of crap that you are writing here. If all the preachers are like you it's no wonder that the attacks against Jews in the US has been raising.

BTW, the Muazin is also a preacher or he just tell you to come and pray?
I only pray there. There is no set Muazzin(the Muazzin only gives the call to prayer). Whoever has a good voice can give the call to prayer. The Imam who leads the prayer is different as is the Khateeb(preacher) who gives the Friday prayer sermon. And I am not either one of those btw.

[ExtraT]

A very good thing I didn't send Javehn my real address.


If you were to send a real address, I would not have posted it here. But since you decided to send an address for a "neutral" territory, It's only natural that everybody interested should know about it.



As for a Rubin-type guy coming in. Knowing what I know, it is difficult to imagine that happening here. You'll have to be inside the Mosque in order to know why.

Translation:
Ooooooo, don't you evil Zionists try anything - there are many of us there, and you will drown in your own blood!

:roll:

[ariweiner]

If you were to send a real address, I would not have posted it here. But since you decided to send an address for a "neutral" territory, It's only natural that everybody interested should know about it.
Ok, that's very nice of you.

Translation:
Ooooooo, don't you evil Zionists try anything - there are many of us there, and you will drown in your own blood!
It's not about the numbers, its about the quality of a small number of men who have some good training.

[ariweiner]

Let me remove this.

[Moledet]

Btw, this particular Mosque has a very interesting background. The Mosque was previously accused of being linked to terrorists because Ayman Zawahiri visited there in 1993 and raised some funds for some charity(under apparently false pretexts) or the other. Shaykh Abdullah Azzam has also visited(he recruited over a dozen men for the Jihad against the Soviets) as has Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. Btw, the Mosque has been cleared of any links to terrorists.
You should recruit too, but to Israel and not to Russia. I'll be happy to meet in you in a settlement in the west bank (I visit this place a lot).

P.S. I'm not a soldier and I don't have a weapon (even though I get a M14 carbine in the west bank).

[RomanS]

ari*****

we should look at it this way.
You are all about talk, talk, and talk. You bring some links here, and trying to accomplish something here?

But guess what, our Russian soldiers are gonna put an end to your boyfriends over there, and there is nothing you can do about it. Your types will always be someone's bitches, and it is my pleasure to see your muslim friends take a bullet over there.

Our Israeli friends will keep on stomping your asses over there as well. they are doing good job so far, and God bless them. BUT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, but cry and post your menstrual links here.

[RomanS]

The only problem I see with going to meet this little fukc, is the laws in this country.

The way I wanna go and meet ariweiner and his fellow muslim friends will get me a death penalty by the state.

There is a lot I can say what I think about you and your religion, but due to respect to the owner of this website, i'll hold it in me.

But I'm sure you understand it aint no peacful message.

It would be much much more pleasant if you come to Arizona. We here appreciate the Second Amendment, and practice it a lot. Unlike your folks in California.

now fukc off and die bitch

[ariweiner]

Lol PermskiiOMON. What you fail to realize is that your Russian imperialist nation has been massacring tens of thousands of people in Chechna, raping their sisters and daughters, kidnapping their children(Oh wait, you do realize this and you support it fully, it seems). For all this, Russia is going to pay a very severe penalty. I will personally guarantee that the Russians can never win in Chechnya. There will always be someone to replace the ones who fall.

As for being able to do nothing about all the murders that your fellow Russians in Chechnya are perpetrating. Making people aware of what the Chechens are going through is not doing nothing. If you mean doing nothing in terms of a military sense, the Chechen government and Army led by Commander in Chief Maskhadov have the situation well in control and they are able to strike whenever and wherever they choose against the Russian sadists throughout Chechnya. Personally, if I am able within the rest of my God given life, to obtain the training necessary, I will willingly go to Chechnya and fight for the freedom of my brothers.

[born_to_love]

persmkii would break your bones ari.

[born_to_love]

ARI

JUST SHUT THE **** UP

YOUR ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SIT HERE AND READ **** ALL DAY ON THE INTERNET FROM AL JAZEERA AND HAMASONLINE AND KAFKAZCENTER

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHATS REALLY GOING ON

WHY DONT YOU FLY TO CHECHNYA
OR FLY TO THE TERRITORYS

OH WAIT YOUR A PUSSY, YOU JUST SIT HERE HIDE BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN AND TALK ****

AND IF YOU WENT TO CHECHYNYA OR THE TERRITORYS YOU WOULD SEE WHATS REALLY GOING ON, AND HOPEFULLY ONE OF YOUR MUSLIM FRIENDS WILL KIDNAP AND DECAPITATE YOU LIKE THEY ARE DOING TO RUSSIAN/ISRAEL SOLDIERS!

[memphiz]

So anyways Im walking my dog in the school field right by the playground when all of a sudden she takes a HUGE dump right there, fearing that someone saw this I ran home so I wouldnt have to pick it up.

[California Joe]

*what would Argyll do......what would Argyll do......Hmmmmm*

[5jumpchump]

Lol PermskiiOMON. What you fail to realize is that your Russian imperialist nation has been massacring tens of thousands of people in Chechna, raping their sisters and daughters, kidnapping their children(Oh wait, you do realize this and you support it fully, it seems). For all this, Russia is going to pay a very severe penalty. I will personally guarantee that the Russians can never win in Chechnya. There will always be someone to replace the ones who fall.

As for being able to do nothing about all the murders that your fellow Russians in Chechnya are perpetrating. Making people aware of what the Chechens are going through is not doing nothing. If you mean doing nothing in terms of a military sense, the Chechen government and Army led by Commander in Chief Maskhadov have the situation well in control and they are able to strike whenever and wherever they choose against the Russian sadists throughout Chechnya. Personally, if I am able within the rest of my God given life, to obtain the training necessary, I will willingly go to Chechnya and fight for the freedom of my brothers.

[memphiz]

*what would Argyll do......what would Argyll do......Hmmmmm*
*raises hand*
FOK IT YOU FOKKITY FOKS GO CRY TO YOUR FOKING MOMS YOU FOKS IM GETTING REALLY PISSED OFF WITH ALL THE FOKIN BS SO SHUT THE FOK UP YOU FOKERS

p-)
Argyll is so cool

[ariweiner]

FINALLY this has been moved to where it should originally have been posted. Good job admin.

persmkii would break your bones ari.
Maybe my neighbors toddler daughter lol.

YOUR ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SIT HERE AND READ **** ALL DAY ON THE INTERNET FROM AL JAZEERA AND HAMASONLINE AND KAFKAZCENTER
If you care to read through my posts, most of the articles that I post are from mainstream sources.

WHY DONT YOU FLY TO CHECHNYA OR FLY TO THE TERRITORYS
I might yet fly to Chechnya once I obtain the training necessary. Though I need to consult a lawyer about US laws pertaining to travel to fight imperialists disguised as US allies.

OH WAIT YOUR A PUSSY, YOU JUST SIT HERE HIDE BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN AND TALK ****
Lol I gave an address where any interested party can meet me. I am not anonymous at all...nor am I hiding.

AND IF YOU WENT TO CHECHYNYA OR THE TERRITORYS YOU WOULD SEE WHATS REALLY GOING ON, AND HOPEFULLY ONE OF YOUR MUSLIM FRIENDS WILL KIDNAP AND DECAPITATE YOU LIKE THEY ARE DOING TO RUSSIAN/ISRAEL SOLDIERS!
And what are those soldiers doing in territories that are not their own. Oh wait, let me guess, could they be invaders?

[RomanS]

ariweiner

I'll make sure my connections in Russia are aware of your desires, and will meet you with proper conditions.

But actually, you should be notified to the FBI for what you are writing here.

There is proved Al-queda connections in Chechnya. Chechnen groups are in the terrorist lists targeted by USA as well. You are willing to go and fight for them.

Good going !

[ExtraT]

Aaaaah, how I like these moments of truth. It gives me this nice warm feeling of a job well done.
:)

And some people actually say this topic wasn't worth it.

Just read this:


Personally, if I am able within the rest of my God given life, to obtain the training necessary, I will willingly go to Chechnya and fight for the freedom of my brothers.

[born_to_love]

I heard you lived in california

whats your adress

i know a couple people that would be glad to pay you a visit

[Secret Squirrel]

ariweiner

I'll make sure my connections in Russia are aware of your desires, and will meet you with proper conditions.

But actually, you should be notified to the FBI for what you are writing here.

There is proved Al-queda connections in Chechnya. Chechnen groups are in the terrorist lists targeted by USA as well. You are willing to go and fight for them.

Good going !

Hamas is listed by the U.S as a terrorist group, but that doesnt stop Bush from condemning airstrikes against them.

[RomanS]

ariweiner

I'll make sure my connections in Russia are aware of your desires, and will meet you with proper conditions.

But actually, you should be notified to the FBI for what you are writing here.

There is proved Al-queda connections in Chechnya. Chechnen groups are in the terrorist lists targeted by USA as well. You are willing to go and fight for them.

Good going !

Hamas is listed by the U.S as a terrorist group, but that doesnt stop Bush from condemning airstrikes against them.

How many Americans are going to fight for HAMAS or fighting already?

[Moledet]

Lol PermskiiOMON. What you fail to realize is that your Russian imperialist nation has been massacring tens of thousands of people in Chechna, raping their sisters and daughters, kidnapping their children(Oh wait, you do realize this and you support it fully, it seems). For all this, Russia is going to pay a very severe penalty. I will personally guarantee that the Russians can never win in Chechnya. There will always be someone to replace the ones who fall.

As for being able to do nothing about all the murders that your fellow Russians in Chechnya are perpetrating. Making people aware of what the Chechens are going through is not doing nothing. If you mean doing nothing in terms of a military sense, the Chechen government and Army led by Commander in Chief Maskhadov have the situation well in control and they are able to strike whenever and wherever they choose against the Russian sadists throughout Chechnya. Personally, if I am able within the rest of my God given life, to obtain the training necessary, I will willingly go to Chechnya and fight for the freedom of my brothers.
I realy can't understand why you are so naive. In Israel more then 50% of the Palestinians are against the intifada and in Chechniya the civilians hate the warriors because they abuse them.
Only you that live far away from the conflicts support the terrorists, and I don't think that it's a surprise because of all the hatred that you are being taught in your mosque.

[ExtraT]

I might yet fly to Chechnya once I obtain the training necessary.


Hmmmm... Let's see. This guy frequents a mosque full of "well trained" people, spreads terrorist propaganda, speaks of some training that he has to complete before going off to fight in a foreign conflict.

Maybe this mosque of yours deserves a slightly closer attention from, say, FBI?

It's good that our enemies are so dumb - this one can't even keep a secret of his terrorist cell. rofl rofl

I cencerely ask the mods not to ban him. Maybe we can "volunteer" some more useful information out of this character. rofl rofl

[Moledet]

Extrat just keep the quotes so he won't be able to edit. :)

[RomanS]

Ariweiner

word of a advice,

if you go to Chechnya, make sure you save an extra round or a grenade for yourself. If you do get accepted by the Chechen resistance (which is a slim chance), you will need to kill yourself when you get surrounded and manage to survive.

Our soldiers don't take your kind as prisioners. Chechen natives have a chance to stand in a court before they are sentenced. If a Chechen fighter caught in surrendering, and his hands are clean, the Russians by the law have to amnesty him.

You are not native Chechen, you are dirty merc (naemnik), and your death will be painful and embarassing if you get caught. I will notify my friend collonel of Internal Forces about your possible future arrival.

However, you must understand one thing. Majority of Chechen jihad groups like al Jamaat, they hate Americans. No matter if you are muslim, Michael Jackson or whatever. You are from USA, and you will not be welcomed in Chechnya by Chechens and other Arab fighters.

Read Aquil Collins's book "My Jihad". He almost got killed because he was an American muslim. Khattab wouldnt even talk to him.

So for future reference, make sure you kill yourself when the situation arrises. If the Chechen muslims don't kill you, my friends there will make sure you don't enter heaven, and go through the world of pain.

And believe me when I say, Russian Spetsnaz now is hunting down all the "imports" (mercs from other countries). They are their primary target right now, not the local Chechen fighters.

[duck]

Please stop making death threats or jihadist declarations. You might be well advised to do some serious editing as well.

[ariweiner]

I'll make sure my connections in Russia are aware of your desires, and will meet you with proper conditions.

But actually, you should be notified to the FBI for what you are writing here.

There is proved Al-queda connections in Chechnya. Chechnen groups are in the terrorist lists targeted by USA as well. You are willing to go and fight for them.
I will God willing if I go there be fighting for Maskhadovs legitimate and internationally recognized government.

I heard you lived in california

whats your adress

i know a couple people that would be glad to pay you a visit
An address is posted a few pages back. Email me the date and time and we can meet.

In Israel more then 50% of the Palestinians are against the intifada
Source?

and in Chechniya the civilians hate the warriors because they abuse them.
According to Aukai Collins (who wrote the book "My Jihad"), every village that he went with the Chechens, the people would offer him their daughters in marriage, they would give them food and put them up for the night etc. So much for "abuse."

:roll:

This guy frequents a mosque full of "well trained" people
Yes they are well trained to prevent massacres like the one that yahood committed in 1994 in a mosque in Palestine. [i.e: Armed man coming and shooting worshippers in the back]

Maybe this mosque of yours deserves a slightly closer attention from, say, FBI?
Lol, this Mosque has a working relationship with the FBI. They visit here and conduct civilian FBI cadet training.

It's good that our enemies are so dumb - this one can't even keep a secret of his terrorist cell.
Terrorist cell?
rofl
Whos the dumb one here?

[5jumpchump]

Lol PermskiiOMON. What you fail to realize is that your Russian imperialist nation has been massacring tens of thousands of people in Chechna, raping their sisters and daughters, kidnapping their children(Oh wait, you do realize this and you support it fully, it seems). For all this, Russia is going to pay a very severe penalty. I will personally guarantee that the Russians can never win in Chechnya. There will always be someone to replace the ones who fall.

As for being able to do nothing about all the murders that your fellow Russians in Chechnya are perpetrating. Making people aware of what the Chechens are going through is not doing nothing. If you mean doing nothing in terms of a military sense, the Chechen government and Army led by Commander in Chief Maskhadov have the situation well in control and they are able to strike whenever and wherever they choose against the Russian sadists throughout Chechnya. Personally, if I am able within the rest of my God given life, to obtain the training necessary, I will willingly go to Chechnya and fight for the freedom of my brothers.

Please dude , by all means take the next flight to where ever you need to go and fight Jihad and get the **** out of my country rofl Go meet your 72 virigins . Have you ever thought of this though ? Thousands upon thousands of Jihad soldiers have died in battle . How many times have these "Virgins" been ****ed over the years ? rofl

[RomanS]

Lol PermskiiOMON. What you fail to realize is that your Russian imperialist nation has been massacring tens of thousands of people in Chechna, raping their sisters and daughters, kidnapping their children(Oh wait, you do realize this and you support it fully, it seems). For all this, Russia is going to pay a very severe penalty. I will personally guarantee that the Russians can never win in Chechnya. There will always be someone to replace the ones who fall.

As for being able to do nothing about all the murders that your fellow Russians in Chechnya are perpetrating. Making people aware of what the Chechens are going through is not doing nothing. If you mean doing nothing in terms of a military sense, the Chechen government and Army led by Commander in Chief Maskhadov have the situation well in control and they are able to strike whenever and wherever they choose against the Russian sadists throughout Chechnya. Personally, if I am able within the rest of my God given life, to obtain the training necessary, I will willingly go to Chechnya and fight for the freedom of my brothers.

Please dude , by all means take the next flight to where ever you need to go and fight Jihad and get the f*** out of my country rofl Go meet your 72 virigins . Have you ever thought of this though ? Thousands upon thousands of Jihad soldiers have died in battle . How many times have these "Virgins" been f*** over the years ? rofl

Thats a lot of ****ED ALREADY WOMEN there

[ariweiner]

if you go to Chechnya, make sure you save an extra round or a grenade for yourself. If you do get accepted by the Chechen resistance (which is a slim chance), you will need to kill yourself when you get surrounded and manage to survive.
Thank you for your sincere advice. However if I kill myself for any reason I believe that I will go straight to hell.

Our soldiers don't take your kind as prisioners.
Because they are too scared to do so? Read the accounts, the "foreign" mujahideen usually fight to the death.

You are not native Chechen, you are dirty merc (naemnik)
A mercenary is someone who fights for money. All of the non-native Mujahideen that I know of expend their personal resources just trying to get in country. And they do not fight for money either.

and your death will be painful and embarassing if you get
caught.
Undoubtedly. I always knew the Russian forces to be somewhat sadistic torturers.

I will notify my friend collonel of Internal Forces about your possible future arrival.
Thank you very much for the attention.

However, you must understand one thing. Majority of Chechen jihad groups like al Jamaat, they hate Americans. No matter if you are muslim, Michael Jackson or whatever. You are from USA, and you will not be welcomed in Chechnya by Chechens and other Arab fighters.
Oh, really? How did Aukai Collins manage to meet Al Khattab and not only meet him but Khattab personally paid for his medevac out of Chechnya. Btw, Collins frequents this website forums: http://www.comebackalive.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=07a7162638058ff8d81d085bf16152b7
I believe his username is AbuSayf or something like that.

He has some interesting stories.


So for future reference, make sure you kill yourself when the situation arrises. If the Chechen muslims don't kill you, my friends there will make sure you don't enter heaven, and go through the world of pain.
What is the worst they could do to me? And how long can they make it last. Historically, there were Muslims who were sawn in half from the head downwards and they didnt give up their faith. And secondly, do you believe that people go for jihad to do photo ops and enjoy the good life? It's clearly not the case, my friend.

And believe me when I say, Russian Spetsnaz now is hunting down all the "imports" (mercs from other countries). They are their primary target right now, not the local Chechen fighters.
Say hello to them for me. And again those mujahideen are not mercs, they are volunteers.

[ariweiner]

Go meet your 72 virigins

You are under a misapprehension.
From an interview with a Muslim scholar:

Q: In an interview, you mentioned that the Qur'an never used the word jihad to imply fighting and the Qur'an never mentioned hur al-'ain.

Shaykh Hamza: I did not say the Qur'an never mentions hur al-'ain. I said that the 72 virgins is not in the Qur'an. It is in the hadith. About jihad, there is no verse where jihad is specifically used to refer to war, and you can look through the entire Qur'an. When Allah speaks about war, He uses the word qital. Jihad is a general, comprehensive term that includes a military endeavor that is for the truth, but it has the broadest meanings in the Qur'an. It includes all that Muslims struggle to do. For example, building schools is a jihad; fighting the nafs is a jihad; and so forth. That is why the Qur'an does not limit the word. Juhud just means struggle, and that was what I meant in the interview. There are verses where it does refer to martial combat, but it does not specifically limit the term to that one use, and that is why we do not have a "holy war," so to speak. The struggle for the sake of Allah is a high thing.

What I said about hur al-'ain is that the 72 virgins is not mentioned in the Qur'an. I did say that you have to be very careful about literalism with the Qur'an. For example, the Qur'an says about Allah, "there is nothing like Allah," and then what does Allah say after that? He says, "and He is the All-Hearing and the All-Knowing." Well, how would you know what All-Hearing and All-Knowing is if you did not have hearing and knowing? Also, Allah sees, so how would you know what sight is if you did not have sight? Allah gave you sight, but is your sight like the sight of Allah? Absolutely not.

Now, Allah says about jannah that it is something no eye has seen, and it never occurred to the human heart. So, when you look at the other descriptions of paradise in the Qur'an, you have to know that those are approximations. Do not think that Allah is describing physical types of things that we know of in this world. That is what Imam Al-Ghazali said, and that is what the 'ulama say. One of the things that some people are trying to use against Islam is that they say we envision paradise as being this type of ****** romp or something like that, which is a terrible thing. For the human being, the highest level of pleasure is in ****** relations, and therefore, it would be appropriate, according to what Imam Al-Ghazali says, to give some indication of the pleasures of paradise by talking about something that human beings know about, which is that experience, because the majority of human beings do not have intense mystical experiences in their life. There are mystics who do have these experiences that are very profound and intense, but most people do not. The most intense experience that they will have of pleasure is in this act, and when Allah describes the pleasures of paradise, He uses those examples because they are close to people's understandings.

That is not to say that hur al-'ain do not exist because they are real. However, to think that they are somehow related to the bestial elements of this world is incorrect. Allah says that these are pure beings. Paradise is total purity, so, it is about purity; its not about anything that relates to the mud of this world; that is euros. It is in the world. So, I said that because I think that sometimes people misunderstand the way Muslims view paradise. For example, what is in it for the women? What do the women get? Well, jealousy is removed from their hearts, they say. Allah says that both of them get their rewards. Believing men and believing women get the same rewards in paradise. Another thing to remember is that the highest station in paradise is the presence of Allah; it has nothing to do with any sensual description. The lowest jannah is the jannah of food and drink, and those are just approximations. Do not think that paradise is going to be just eating and drinking like here. It is not.

[California Joe]

I'd lock this thread but it looks to me like you guys are enjoying it a little to much and I don't feel like locking the next 27 you start to continue the arguement. So carry on and try to observe Marquis of Queensbury rules, but realize people have been banned for being mentally unbalanced in their racist views around here......

[memphiz]

I'd lock this thread but it looks to me like you guys are enjoying it a little to much and I don't feel like locking the next 27 you start to continue the arguement. So carry on and try to observe Marquis of Queensbury rules, but realize people have been banned for being mentally unbalanced in their racist views around here......
You didnt say Fok?

[ariweiner]

Marquis of Queensbury rules, but realize people have been banned for being mentally unbalanced in their racist views around here

Hmm what are the Marquis rules?
And what are mentally unbalanced racist views.

Kind of rhymes doesn't it? Maybe I could start a poem :D

[California Joe]

I don't want to steal Argyll's schtick. He has a gun.

[memphiz]

Damn well know you have to come up with something creative..

Use alot of silly British slang :D

[RomanS]

Thank you for your sincere advice. However if I kill myself for any reason I believe that I will go straight to hell.


Thats where my friends will send you.


Because they are too scared to do so? Read the accounts, the "foreign" mujahideen usually fight to the death.


Scared, oh no. Actually I've seen videos where your surrendering friends were crying to speznaz not to kill them. It was embarassing for them asking Russian Spetsnaz of Internal Forces to spare their lives.

I also have a tape with 30 minutes of Perm Omon, given to me by a major of that unit, inspecting surrendered fighters. Each recieved medical attention, food, and was not abused at all. There were some arabs there with them.

But we are talking about Spetsnaz. They won't be nice with your kind. Believe me please, I KNOW.




A mercenary is someone who fights for money. All of the non-native Mujahideen that I know of expend their personal resources just trying to get in country. And they do not fight for money either.


A merc is a volunteer. Not always they fight for money. Sometimes for experience, weapons, and for their believes. Your believe is in Russia called "TERRORISM"




Undoubtedly. I always knew the Russian forces to be somewhat sadistic torturers.


Arbi Baraev still takes the award, and if Khatab was still alive he would be the proud host the world's worst demonic executions Festival. Note, its all on tape.




Oh, really? How did Aukai Collins manage to meet Al Khattab and not only meet him but Khattab personally paid for his medevac out of Chechnya. Btw, Collins frequents this website forums: http://www.comebackalive.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=07a7162638058ff8d81d085bf16152b7
I believe his username is AbuSayf or something like that.
Last time I checked your boyfriend was doing 10 years in Mexican prision for smugling weapons. American government still hates this bitch. The only difference between Aukai Collins and John Walker Lindh - is TIMING.


What is the worst they could do to me? And how long can they make it last. Historically, there were Muslims who were sawn in half from the head downwards and they didnt give up their faith. And secondly, do you believe that people go for jihad to do photo ops and enjoy the good life? It's clearly not the case, my friend.

We have ways. You will be ****ting your faith, believes , whatever, out of your new asshole when they are done with you.

[Sayeret]

ariweiner wrote:


Because they are too scared to do so? Read the accounts, the "foreign" mujahideen usually fight to the death.

I really doubt any Russian soldiers would be too scared to take any of the "foreign" terrorists prisoner. I bet they would be extremely careful since the Chechens have probably made a ton of fake surrenders. Ariweiner if your comparing Russian soldiers and Chechen guerillas/terrorists, Russians are going to advantage unless they are being ambushed or something but the Russian troops especially Spetznatz are better trained than the Chechens, have more, and heavier weapons.

[ariweiner]

Quote:
if I kill myself for any reason I believe that I will go straight to hell.

Thats where my friends will send you.
Only God decides where people ultimately end up.


Scared, oh no. Actually I've seen videos where your surrendering friends were crying to speznaz not to kill them. It was embarassing for them asking Russian Spetsnaz of Internal Forces to spare their lives.
Levels of dedication to every standard varies. For the most part the mujahideen do not surrender.

I also have a tape with 30 minutes of Perm Omon, given to me by a major of that unit, inspecting surrendered fighters. Each recieved medical attention, food, and was not abused at all. There were some arabs there with them.
Maybe not in the video itself but what about afterwards?

But we are talking about Spetsnaz. They won't be nice with your kind. Believe me please, I KNOW.
I don't doubt your word.

Quote:
A mercenary is someone who fights for money. All of the non-native Mujahideen that I know of expend their personal resources just trying to get in country. And they do not fight for money either.


A merc is a volunteer. Not always they fight for money. Sometimes for experience, weapons, and for their believes. Your believe is in Russia called "TERRORISM"
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."


Quote:
Undoubtedly. I always knew the Russian forces to be somewhat sadistic torturers.

Arbi Baraev still takes the award, and if Khatab was still alive he would be the proud host the world's worst demonic executions Festival. Note, its all on tape.
Arbi Baraev at least has a legitimate reason even though I believe that he is not a torturer. When your home is invaded and you see all the things mentioned happening to your family members and your neighbors and countrymen, you will be capable of doing many many things to those that carried out the crimes.

Last time I checked your boyfriend was doing 10 years in Mexican prision for smugling weapons. American government still hates this bitch. The only difference between Aukai Collins and John Walker Lindh - is TIMING.
He was trying to catch drug smugglers my friend. Though perhaps a bit too vigilante and mercenary like for my taste.

We have ways. You will be ****ting your faith, believes , whatever, out of your new asshole when they are done with you.
Lol. People come up with all kinds of demonic torture. Im sure the very innovative Russian sadists have their ways. But if ever I am caught and if ever I am tortured, the only ones who will be ultimately suffering will be them. Ask 16 Obr Spn about where some of his fellow Spetsnaz are. What their mental states are and where and how they died. There's a homeless guy living down the street near a train station close by. He is a decorated Vietnam Vet and has the medals and citations and everything. But he is one hell of a wreck and most people just start sobbing when they hear his story and how he got to where he currently is. :(

[ariweiner]

Sayeret read Hist2004's post on the state of Russian specops and how they have fared here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16875&highlight=

[mocking_loudly_died]

****, 15 pages - I have a lot of back reading to do on this baby.

[memphiz]

****, 15 pages - I have a lot of back reading to do on this baby.
I can sum it up for you:
Russians vs everyone not Russian
blab blab blab etc..

Airwiener writes alot and most is jiberish, and quotes everything.
Joe was gonna lock it but he didnt, my dog toook a **** in a school playground, Argyll has a gun and the word 'Fok' is his. Permii likes to write alot to and quote people

[ariweiner]

Good summary memphiz. Though I take issue with the "jibberish" part.

[Vance]

Good summary memphiz. Though I take issue with the "jibberish" part.
I just thought you spelled bad.

[ariweiner]

spelled bad? No way, I am usually a very good speller.

[RomanS]

Here Look Ariweiner. This is the guys you gonna meet when you go

http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/bh.jpg

http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/bi.jpg

http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/ak.jpg

http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/cl.jpg

http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/de.jpg

http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/di.jpg



And after them their sons will come to finish you fukers off.
http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/ed.jpg

http://bratishka.ru/images/album/Pokaz/Sold/ek.jpg

[Fintin]

****, 15 pages - I have a lot of back reading to do on this baby.
I can sum it up for you:
Russians vs everyone not Russian
blab blab blab etc..

Airwiener writes alot and most is jiberish, and quotes everything.
Joe was gonna lock it but he didnt, my dog toook a **** in a school playground, Argyll has a gun and the word 'Fok' is his. Permii likes to write alot to and quote people


you forgot about my big **** on page 9...

[Falco]

Whoa what kind of warzone is this?

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Whoa what kind of warzone is this?

It isnt thats training :lol:

[Sayeret]

****, 15 pages - I have a lot of back reading to do on this baby.

hahahah

[Sayeret]

ariweiner

If the Chechen guerillas/terrorists are better at fighting than Spetznatz then why do they always carry out ambushes, roadside bombings, and raids?

Why would Chechen terrorists resort to suicide bombings if they were so strong, suicide bombings are always an attack done by a weak side. Just like the Kamikazies in Japan.

[born_to_love]

[quote]Thank you for your sincere advice. However if I kill myself for any reason I believe that I will go straight to hell.


thats where all you terrorists go anyway

I know I'm a little late for this but, boo ****ing whoo

[ariweiner]

Here Look Ariweiner. This is the guys you gonna meet when you go
They looks like some very tough and well trained guys. I have to wonder, though, whether they will end up in an operation like those from Pskov(Ulus Kert op).
====

If the Chechen guerillas/terrorists are better at fighting than Spetznatz then why do they always carry out ambushes, roadside bombings, and raids?
I have no clue. I'll ask them if/when I get there. Right now I think it's because this is being waged as a war of attrition and the above mentioned types of assaults are the most effective.
====

thats where all you terrorists go anyway
Only God decides who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. The decision is in no human hands.

[RomanS]

They looks like some very tough and well trained guys. I have to wonder, though, whether they will end up in an operation like those from Pskov(Ulus Kert op).

Ulus-Kert height 776, oh yeah. 86 Heroes.

92 Russian paratroopers held the hill against 1500-2000 muslim terrorists.

92 Russian paratroopers fought for 3 days vs 1500-2000 muslim terrorists.

At the end Russians ended up with 86 dead heroes, and 400+ dead muslim terrorists.

ON that night one of the Russian paratroopers killed Abu Al Idris. Khattab's right hand commander.

ON that night Russians put on their bayonets, and charged the scared ****less muslim terrorists.

ON that night, when a group of muslim terrorists tried to take Aleksei K. alive, he saved an extra grenade, and blew himself up along with 5-8 muslim terrorists.

ON that night Mark Evtuhin while missing half of his body called an artillery strike on himself, and 15 remaining injured out of ammo Russian paratroopers, as muslim terrorists got closer and tried to make them surrender.


I have no clue. I'll ask them if/when I get there. Right now I think it's because this is being waged as a war of attrition and the above mentioned types of assaults are the most effective.

The reason muslim terrorists in Chechnya don't want face Russian military in traditional combat is because Russian army will whipe them out face to face. They can't stand against Russian military period.

They never ambush elite units, or groups. Almost never Russian airborne, naval infantry or Spetsnaz units were ambushed purposely. If it happened it was when muslim terrorists didnt realize who they were atacking at the moment.

Almost always on the videos of the muslim fighters you see them atack a supply convoy, or one (1) BMP, BTR. Very rarely will they atack a full convoy with tanks, and air support.

Even when they atacked Perm OMON in March 2000, muslim terrorists used a force of 300+ man to atack a 40 men convoy. One Ural truck, and one BTR-70. I have a video tape of my friend inspecting the scene, 45 minutes after it happened. They clearly show and say that muslim terrorists lost almost half of their man. There were plenty of dead muslim terrorists laying there, and they even tried to burry some in a hury.

Its the same as in Iraq, and Israel. The muslim terrorists, can't face American/Israeli/Russian soldiers in a combat. They put explosives on the road to atack one vehicle, or they atack little water supply convoys.

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die you bastard thread die....AHHHHHHHHHH.....so i heard tampa was a hockey town...WHAT

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die you bastard thread die....AHHHHHHHHHH.....so i heard tampa was a hockey town...WHAT

Fintin, no offence man. But there are over 4000 other threads you can read and join. If you don't like this one, than simply Don't look here.
Non of your business anyways. We will solve this, and notice it hasnt been locked yet unlike other short ones.

no offense.

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die you bastard thread die....AHHHHHHHHHH.....so i heard tampa was a hockey town...WHAT

Fintin, no offence man. But there are over 4000 other threads you can read and join. If you don't like this one, than simply Don't look here.
Non of your business anyways. We will solve this, and notice it hasnt been locked yet unlike other short ones.

no offense.


what the feck...i guess you didnt read joes reasons for not locking it...it would only spawn other basterd threads that should die...thus...this thread should have been locked...long ago...but no...it still breaths its heathen scum...not to mention its in off topic...my spaming spot...

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die you bastard thread die....AHHHHHHHHHH.....so i heard tampa was a hockey town...WHAT

Fintin, no offence man. But there are over 4000 other threads you can read and join. If you don't like this one, than simply Don't look here.
Non of your business anyways. We will solve this, and notice it hasnt been locked yet unlike other short ones.

no offense.


what the feck...i guess you didnt read joes reasons for not locking it...it would only spawn other basterd threads that should die...thus...this thread should have been locked...long ago...but no...it still breaths its heathen scum...not to mention its in off topic...my spaming spot...

Like I said man, the forums are created so that people can argue-discuss-laugh-show off whatever.
If you don't like it, why come to this one?

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because its my job...i drink...i post...i take care of the ladies...