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LJK
07-13-2003, 10:30 AM
Special jaegers during ct-training:
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/75terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/76terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/74terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/77terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/78terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/79terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/83terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/82terror.jpg
http://www.mil.fi/joukot/ahma/images/new/86terror.jpg

sittingbull
07-15-2003, 01:34 PM
nice man. I'm a British citizen but because my mother is Finnish I'm gonna get called up to the Finnish Army (I believe the law is chaning thought so I might not have to participate to retain dual citizenship)

LJK
07-16-2003, 03:55 PM
Heh nice. Can you speak any finnish ? :) I think that you wont get call to Finnish army if you dont want :)
I read couple weeks ago from newspaper about some German and British guy who serve in finish army and they didint speak any finnish but they did their job well :)

Vlad
07-17-2003, 02:55 AM
I am pretty sure it was answered somewhere, but what kind of rifles are those, they look pretty to close to some kind of AK derivative.
Thanks

Smintjes
07-17-2003, 04:41 AM
Finnish Valmets.

LJK
07-17-2003, 07:25 AM
I am pretty sure it was answered somewhere, but what kind of rifles are those, they look pretty to close to some kind of AK derivative.
Thanks

They are Finnish made Valmet m95 assault rifles. Based on Kalashnikov.

Grimmer
09-09-2003, 12:51 PM
Jees, mageeta toimintaa. Jääkäri on erimies.
Nice post. ;)

EDIT: hmm..a bit old post, eh :D

Dalleer
10-27-2003, 09:23 AM
I'm just wondering, but isn't it so that the "M95"-assault rifle is called the "Rk95" back here?

I can understand that it would be named "M95" for export use, but shouldn't we be calling them with the correct names since for an example the "AK47" is called with the same name as it would be called in Russia.

Its not "M47" in the other countries, now is it?

Not that it would be a big deal, but...

TIEDUSTELIJA
10-27-2003, 12:53 PM
Jane's magazine said that the RK95 is one of the best assault rifles in the world. It is very accurate even with vv-2000.

REMOV
10-27-2003, 01:10 PM
I'm just wondering, but isn't it so that the "M95"-assault rifle is called the "Rk95" back here?Well, this assault rifle is called 7,62mm SAKO M95 by manufacturer, but the official Finnish Defence Forces model designation is 7,62 Rk.95TP (7,62 Rynnäkkökivääri 95 Taittoperä) which means in normal language (without twice ää in one word) 7,62 x 39mm assault rifle, model 1995, folding stock. The same thing is in the USA. For example the Colt M927 has official USArmy designation M4A1 Carbine.

I can understand that it would be named "M95" for export useIt's the REAL name of this assault rifle, SAKO Model 95.

an example the "AK47" is called with the same name as it would be called in Russia. It's bad example. "AK47" it is Western designation of whole family of AK assault rifle (i.e. AK, AKM, AKS, AKMS etc.). It isn't name of ONE specific model and even the REAL name of any of AK family assault rifle.

Its not "M47" in the other countries, now is it? Naturally, IT IS. The assault rifle called just "AK47" may have it's real name type 56 in China, AIM in Romania, AKMS in Russia and so on.

Dalleer
10-27-2003, 01:24 PM
Well, what is the AK47 called in Russia then?

REMOV
10-27-2003, 02:00 PM
Well, what is the AK47 called in Russia then?Huh, which model? This is whole family based on the first 7,62mm AK assault rifle, so AK, AKS (with folding stock), AKP (with tritum sights) AKM (modernized version), AKMS (modernized with folding stock) etc. Sometimes the very first AK model is called "AK47".

Dalleer
10-27-2003, 02:10 PM
Sometimes the very first AK model is called "AK47".


Very well, this seems to cover it.

thatguy96
10-27-2003, 02:16 PM
Jane's magazine said that the RK95 is one of the best assault rifles in the world. It is very accurate even with vv-2000.
Valmet/SAKO rifles have long been looked upon as the Roll-Royce's of AK clones. They are also the basis for the Galil (and all of its clones), with the original Galil protos being built on machinery bought from Finland.

One could probably use the car manufacturer metaphor to describe all the levels of quality when it comes to AK clones...with Type 56-1s perhaps being compared to old VW production, and the AMD perhaps looking a lot like the Buick of the AK world.

REMOV
10-27-2003, 02:26 PM
One could probably use the car manufacturer metaphor to describe all the levels of quality when it comes to AK clones...with Type 56-1s perhaps being compared to old VW production, and the AMD perhaps looking a lot like the Buick of the AK world.Ekhm... excuse me, but this metaphor is for me utterly incomprehensible. There's only a few Buick here in Europe, and Hungarian AMD isn't so rare ;) And tell me why just the AMD-65 is compare to the Buick?

TIEDUSTELIJA
10-27-2003, 03:25 PM
Olen aina ollut mies
kulkenut tieni otsa hies
tieda en mitaan parempaa
kuin tulla sissiksi armeijaan
nyt kun taalla viimein oon
tiedan etta kuulun tahan joukkoon
joukosta koskaan erotu en
siksi ma juoksen huutaen
TEHKAA TILAA! SISSIT TULEE!

Rynkylla mina taistelen
palleil' yhtaan enaa en
tyttoystavani rakkain on
RK-62 verraton
rynkky unohdan en milloinkaan
sita parempaa en koskaan saa

Ritsa kun tiella tyton nakee
hyppaa ojaan, vetaa kateen
sissin siisti siilipaa
missin viereen yoksi jaa
ritsan merkki hihassa
on kuin piikki lihassa
sissin havu hihassa
on kuin mersu pihassa

TIEDUSTELIJA
10-27-2003, 03:34 PM
M model stands for semi. It is not militaty used.

thatguy96
10-27-2003, 04:21 PM
And tell me why just the AMD-65 is compare to the Buick?
Being the only AK (excuse me if this is wrong) of entirely metal construction, the thing is heavy as all hell, and is apparently even more durable because of this than most other AKs. However, the AMD-65s have been said to be more or less on par in terms of performance with most other AKs. I've also heard the Cadillac reference.

REMOV
10-27-2003, 04:57 PM
Being the only AK (excuse me if this is wrong)It is wrong. AFAIK all Eastern Europe's versions of 7,62mm Kalashnikov assault rifle derives from AKM model not AK ;)

of entirely metal construction, the thing is heavy as all hell, and is apparently even more durable because of this than most other AKs. Well, it's not true at all. This model hasn't got wooden foregrip, but only vertical hand grip, and tiny additional metal rail doesn't look like very heavy, does it? This model weight empty 3,21kg, and for example Chinese type 56-1 weight is 3,57kg, Polish kbk AKMS - 3,4kg so its even lighter than other models ;)
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/212-1.jpg
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/213-1.jpg
http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/213-2.jpg

Dalleer
10-27-2003, 05:43 PM
Olen aina ollut mies
kulkenut tieni otsa hies
tieda en mitaan parempaa
kuin tulla sissiksi armeijaan
nyt kun taalla viimein oon
tiedan etta kuulun tahan joukkoon
joukosta koskaan erotu en......


Yeah, the Finnish march-songs are a real treat, aren't they?

Niin, tämäkin piti tänne saada.

Randomrokottaja
09-22-2005, 07:20 AM
I'm just wondering, but isn't it so that the "M95"-assault rifle is called the "Rk95" back here?

I can understand that it would be named "M95" for export use, but shouldn't we be calling them with the correct names since for an example the "AK47" is called with the same name as it would be called in Russia.

Its not "M47" in the other countries, now is it?

Not that it would be a big deal, but...

If i remember correct, i have already posted this statement earlier to somewhere BUT once again:

RK95 and M95 are both FDF's own designations for the weapon, not SAKO's. FDF renames it's weapons by the year when the piece of equipment is taken to use first time.

M92 is the official original designation of the manufacturer (SAKO in this case) and every single RK95 is manufactured and delivered as M92.

M92s is the designation for semiauto -version with solid stock sold for civilian markets.

droopy
09-22-2005, 09:27 AM
"Naturally, IT IS. The assault rifle called just "AK47" may have it's real name type 56 in China, AIM in Romania, AKMS in Russia and so on."
Actualty in Romania they are called PM (pistol-mitraliera) ;)

RGRBOX
09-22-2005, 10:44 AM
Thos pics aren't loading..

joka
09-22-2005, 11:44 AM
Thos pics aren't loading..

The thread is 3 months old ;)

Jakkech
09-22-2005, 11:56 AM
Thos pics aren't loading..

The thread is 3 months old ;)

The thread is 2 years old. ;)

Dalleer
09-22-2005, 11:56 AM
If i remember correct, i have already posted this statement earlier to somewhere BUT once again:

Looks like your "statement" fell on deaf ears since it sure as hell didn't show up my way.

Too bad you weren't around when I asked this question two freakin' years ago. So it's been quite impossible for me to check any of your divinely accurate and punctual answers , since obviously they weren't posted here in this particular thread.

Jesus christ , this was two years ago.. You'd assume that I already got my answers from Remov.

joka
09-22-2005, 12:15 PM
Thos pics aren't loading..

The thread is 3 months old ;)

The thread is 2 years old. ;)

:lol: I just saw the "July" part :oops:

RGRBOX
09-22-2005, 03:10 PM
Thos pics aren't loading..

The thread is 3 months old ;)

The thread is 2 years old. ;)

:lol: I just saw the "July" part :oops:

I stand corrected... anyone want to repost those pics... I'd love to finally make a coment on them, like, KOOL... Great! bad ass pics dude... or something like that.

Thanks guys..

Maine Finn
09-22-2005, 03:24 PM
Edit:

It appears that I don't know how to search. :roll:

Jani.R
09-22-2005, 03:29 PM
http://www.mil.fi./merivoimat/joukot/kotra/seis.jpg


http://www.mil.fi./merivoimat/joukot/kotra/maassa.jpg

http://www.mil.fi./merivoimat/joukot/kotra/ovella.jpg

http://www.mil.fi./merivoimat/joukot/kotra/auto.jpg

http://www.mil.fi./merivoimat/joukot/kotra/spol.dsp

Jippo
09-22-2005, 03:41 PM
Well those guys above are just ordinary military police.

Here are some special jaeger shots for the thread:

http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/utjr/c1.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/utjr/c2.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/utjr/c3.jpg

http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/utjr/c4.jpg


http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1083738202_14.9.00_KP_2000.jpg

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1083738227_15._9.00_KP_2000.jpg

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1083738244_16._9.00_KP_2000.jpg

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1084863303_40_KRPIST_2002a.jpg

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1084863326_40_KRPIST_2002b.jpg

http://tietokannat.mil.fi/kalustoesittely/media/1084863346_40_KRPIST_2002c.jpg


-jippo

Duvdevan
09-22-2005, 03:41 PM
only red X for me

Jippo
09-22-2005, 03:43 PM
Pics show here just fine....


-jippo

Jani.R
09-22-2005, 03:47 PM
Same.

joka
09-22-2005, 03:49 PM
I stand corrected... anyone want to repost those pics... I'd love to finally make a coment on them, like, KOOL... Great! bad ass pics dude... or something like that.

Thanks guys..

Not sure what picture were posted back then, but here's a few.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1876/nh90pt1ez4qc.jpg

edit. Jippo beat me to it :)

Duvdevan
09-22-2005, 04:17 PM
I can see them know!, only on the web :lol:

jääk1
10-19-2005, 07:40 AM
http://media.tietotalo.fi/mil/UTTI_Streaming_256k.wmv New special jaegers video and http://media.tietotalo.fi/mil/Heko_256k.wmv

joka
10-19-2005, 09:20 AM
http://media.tietotalo.fi/mil/UTTI_Streaming_256k.wmv New special jaegers video and http://media.tietotalo.fi/mil/Heko_256k.wmv

they've already been posted numerous times by various people. ;-)

but welcome to the forum anyway.