Mafia killing of immigrants sparks riots near Naples

[Afro-European]

Race riots exploded in the southern Italian town of Castelvolturno near Naples yesterday after six African immigrants were shot dead at a tailor’s shop in an attack by gangsters from the the Naples Mafia.
Police said that the violence was related to a drugs turf war among the Camorra, the Naples Mafia, in which African immigrants appeared to be involved. But the rioters, who smashed windows and turned over cars, accused the police and mafiosi of racism for assuming that immigrants were drugs dealers. At least six gunmen fired Kalashnikovs and small arms during the attack.
Young men with crowbars forced motorists out of their vehicles while African women screamed. “We want justice. It’s not true that our murdered friends sold drugs or were mobsters,” one protester said. The six dead, all in their late twenties, were from Ghana, Togo and Liberia.
Sando De Franciscis, head of the Caserta region, said: “The arrogance of the Camorra has reached intolerable levels.” Cardinal Crescenzio Sepe, the Archbishop of Naples, said: “As long as these killers are not defeated we will always have cemeteries filled by hate and violence.” Police said that 130 bullets had been fired from a car and several motor scooters. Mafiosi gunmen also mowed down the owner of a games arcade in Castelvolturno, firing 60 bullets into his head and abdomen 20 minutes before the attack on the Africans.
Investigators said both incidents were related to a feud over drugs.
Police said that the violence sprang from a crackdown by the Casalesi clan, a Camorra faction linked to the drugs trade, on dealers who had moved into the clan’s territory “without

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4791697.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00402/Castelvolturno_Riot_402192a.jpg

Do not mess with brothers or else...p-)

[Macs.]

Such people are a problem and need to be deported ASAP. They have no place in a western society and should practice their dreams of Anarchy in their homecountries.

"accused the police and mafiosi of racism for assuming that immigrants were drugs dealers."

So, when will there be a protest against the fellow immigrants who ARE often drug dealers - especially from African nations - This is not made up.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

There not very keen on Roma in the South but I do know that they hate Africans, I work with a Neopolitain and despairs of whats happening to the place.

[Supe]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4791697.ece


Do not mess with brothers or else...p-)

If by brothers you mean the Mafiosi - then agreed. The Mafia have long history of ruthlessness and I don't see them backing away from a fight on their home turf.

[Afro-European]

If by brothers you mean the Mafiosi - then agreed.
By brothers i meant these guys:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00402/Castelvolturno_Riot_402192a.jpg


The Mafia have long history of ruthlessness and I don't see them backing away from a fight on their home turf.
Add to that that some of them have the full backing of some corrupt authorities.

[tyovan]

So they get offended that people think they're criminals, so they protest by smashing windows, overturning cars, and shooting off Kalashnikovs..

RIGHT.......

[Rudolph]

So they get offended that people think they're criminals, so they protest by smashing windows, overturning cars, and shooting off Kalashnikovs..

RIGHT.......

They do not have the same education levels as those they are protesting against, therefore they are blameless.... goes the argument amongst liberals. :cantbeli:

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

So they get offended that people think they're criminals, so they protest by smashing windows, overturning cars, and shooting off Kalashnikovs..

RIGHT.......I kinda get the impression that it was the Mafia that fired AK's rather than the rioters.

[zema_06]

they're thinking about sending the army to patrol the area...

[The Balkan]

this is the MAFIA we're talking about lol....not good people.

same thing happend a while ago with roma and balkan immigrants..naples mob got people all riled up they burned down their settlement and i think one girl was almost lynched lolz she was acused of trying to kidnap someone. she was just akid herself though.

[Calanen]

this is the MAFIA we're talking about lol....not good people.

Drug dealing gone bad.

You dont get a crew with AKs to just attack some random immigrants.

[Bombtrack]

So they get offended that people think they're criminals, so they protest by smashing windows, overturning cars, and shooting off Kalashnikovs..

RIGHT.......


I think they were "offended," as you put it, by 6 of them being shot in a tailor shop.

[Calanen]

I think they were "offended," as you put it, by 6 of them being shot in a tailor shop.

The wages of sin regrettably. If the cops dont get you, the other crims will.

[The Balkan]

The wages of sin regrettably. If the cops dont get you, the other crims will.

Or you eventualy quit while you're ahed and sit pretty

Trust me, that's possbile too p-)

[PanzerMaster]

There is the possibility that some of those black victims were not criminals.

But to trash stuff around and attacks police is wrong, just a way to vent off helpless anger.

[Calanen]

Or you eventualy quit while you're ahed and sit pretty

Trust me, that's possbile too p-)

Yes it is. But its like 1 or 2 per cent. I can think of a handful of people who have done it, but many more who are dead or in prison.

[The Balkan]

There is the possibility that some of those black victims were not criminals.


I know you probly didn't mean it this way, but lmao that sounded so racist. The fact you said "black victims" insted of just victims made it even better.

[Rudolph]

I know you probly didn't mean it this way, but lmao that sounded so racist. The fact you said "black victims" insted of just victims made it even better.

"Race riots exploded in the southern Italian town of Castelvolturno near Naples yesterday after six African immigrants were shot dead at a tailor’s shop in an attack by gangsters from the the Naples Mafia."

Huh?

[The Balkan]

"Race riots exploded in the southern Italian town of Castelvolturno near Naples yesterday after six African immigrants were shot dead at a tailor’s shop in an attack by gangsters from the the Naples Mafia."

Huh?

We all know they're Black, we saw the pic, I was joking about how the whole post sounded lmao


"Wellll there is A POSSIBILITY these black guys werent criminals"

It just made me laugh. It's like "Well ITS POSSIBLE those white guys ARENT NAZIS". I said it was unintentional on his part.

[Rudolph]

We all know they're Black, we saw the pic, I was joking about how the whole post sounded lmao


"Wellll there is A POSSIBILITY these black guys werent criminals"

It just made me laugh. It's like "Well ITS POSSIBLE those white guys ARENT NAZIS". I said it was unintentional on his part.

Hehe. No prob. p-)

[therifleman]

Guys should have known better not to screw with the Mafia. It's common sense. You just don't do it if you don't want to get mowed down in a drive by.

[Connaught Ranger]

I believe "Innocent until proven Guilty in a Court of Law" was the rule of thumb followed in most democratic countries.

Italy as usual, has proven it has not got the stomach to take on the "mafia" / criminals especially with regards Naples.

[Ordie]

Very ironic.

The African Immigrants were probably brought in by the local Mafia.
The Mafia literally turned Naples into a garbage dump.

Now everyone is scapegoating the immigrants.

[Rudolph]

Japanese mob also use thousands of African immigrants....

[Calanen]

I believe "Innocent until proven Guilty in a Court of Law" was the rule of thumb followed in most democratic countries

When you are charging a person with a crime, yes. But these people are dead, so they have no presumption of innocence.

And the mafia doesnt use gangs with AKs to wack innocent people in a very controlled operation. Maybe some innocent people go in the way, but the primary aim was to wipe out competition in the drug wars.




Italy as usual, has proven it has not got the stomach to take on the "mafia" / criminals especially with regards Naples.


A lot of good men and women have bravely died taking on the mafia in Italy, judges, magistrates, carrabinerri. Corruption by way of money is a powerful tool in the hands of the mafia - if you just look the other way for xx amount of cash - everything is fine, if you stand up - perhaps you die. The mafia is hundreds of years old, with enormous resources and a code of silence. The regular people are terrified, and wouldn't you be if you lived in a mafia controlled area?

It's all well and good to imply that you would be the antimafia messiah if located in Italy - but the reality of the situation is very few people have the balls to take them on, and those that do exist - and many have died for this.

[chino65]

Probably for the African-Italian community this incident merely sparked off other racial discriminations they have suffered for a long time?

I don't know Italy well but the Africans (or their forefathers) have fought and died for Italy in many battles, so they do have a certain right to equal treatment as Italians instead of being mere "immigrants"?

[Calanen]

I don't know Italy well but the Africans (or their forefathers) have fought and died for Italy in many battles, so they do have a certain right to equal treatment as Italians instead of being mere "immigrants"?


Well these African immigrants, or most of them havent. It's like saying I have a right to the glory of the Russians at Stalingrad because my father's family have Russian ancestory.

Unless I was at Stalingrad myself - its a bulls*** argument. So let's stick with the facts.

[PanzerMaster]

I know you probly didn't mean it this way, but lmao that sounded so racist. The fact you said "black victims" insted of just victims made it even better.

There was 2 shooting: 1 italian killed 20 minutes befores the other 6 (immigrant) that were black. So i clearly distinguished the 2 episode: one with all 6 black victims and 1 white victims.

While is nearly sure that the 1 white (italian) was linked to "camorra", the other 6 (not italian) were not officially suspected of any link.

In italy, and especially those zones down, there was never a problem of racism. We italian get along with everyone. A moving article of those day in an online newspaper especially told on how the Mafia created emargination and racism... before, in those impoverished zone, people of every color intermingled and shared fatigues, hard jobs in the tomato industry (imagine plantation slavery in the Americas) but also positive things like marriages, dinner togeters etc.


I believe "Innocent until proven Guilty in a Court of Law" was the rule of thumb followed in most democratic countries.

Italy as usual, has proven it has not got the stomach to take on the "mafia" / criminals especially with regards Naples.

Mafia is everywhere. If you are a judge or a policemen, Mafia will be in the hierarchy above, down and around you. Your family will be tortured and killed (we speak of people that hold prisoner a kid of 11 years for months, then strangled him and destroyed him in acid).

You must hit the power houses at Rome and other Governmental palace before hit the Mafia down. Then, when you are done, you must go after every suspected of mafia (because every suspected of mafia is KNOWN) and ask everyone:"Tell me where I can find other mafiosos". If the reply is "Yes", you shot him after he spoke. If the reply is "Don't know" you shot him immediately.

In some regions of italy, around 30% of population (from Official Parliament Anti-Mafia Reports) is believed to be linked with mafia. If this 30% is the total of pop and not the adult... well.. pretty well the majority of adult persons in those place are linked with mafia: from boss, to shooters, to informants, to supporters.


Probably for the African-Italian community this incident merely sparked off other racial discriminations they have suffered for a long time?

I don't know Italy well but the Africans (or their forefathers) have fought and died for Italy in many battles, so they do have a certain right to equal treatment as Italians instead of being mere "immigrants"?

Only Eritrei and Somali (and some Lybics and little Ethiops) fought, with honor and respect, in Italy's Armies. The 90% (figure of thin air by me) of immigrants are from other African countries, especially North Africans, from which we, Italians, have nothing to share historically.

[bd popeye]

I'm Black and I live in the USA. I'm sure blessed by that.

It is very distressing to read about all the racial violence in Europe. Very distressing.:-(

[koalorka]

And the Third Worldization of the West continues...

[DS73]

I'm Black and I live in the USA. I'm sure blessed by that.

It depends, I believe the europeans didn't keep high education away from african immigrants. Segregation was abolished in W. Europe long before in US.
Britain and France had pretty strong "imperial" attitude toward other ethnic groups, that is absorbing everybody and making them the integral part of a nation.


It is very distressing to read about all the racial violence in Europe. Very distressing.:-(

Don't take it seriously. Besides some really mess up places in Germany, Austria and generally xenofobe central-eastern Europe there is no racism toward africans in EU.
Especially Italy was pretty relaxed toward blacks.
What you read now is partially exaggerated, partially is the result of uncontrollable illegal immigration through Cicily, partially enforced by Berlusconi government. He introduced cheap "patriot" rhetoric on Italian soil. For example now they are trying to kill Alitalia using "patriotism" card...:cantbeli:

[PanzerMaster]

Update:
Overo 400 men of the police forces reinforced the zone and we have already an arrest: a 29 year old italian that was recognized by some witnesses (God Bless them).



I'm Black and I live in the USA. I'm sure blessed by that.

It is very distressing to read about all the racial violence in Europe. Very distressing.:-(

This is not a racist issues... is criminal linked. Believe, white-on-white violence in those places is also very high (mostly between mafiosos, but also innocent people linked to them or bystander risk being killed or, worse, tortured before death).

[toki]

It depends, I believe the europeans didn't keep high education away from african immigrants. Segregation was abolished in W. Europe long before in US.
Britain and France had pretty strong "imperial" attitude toward other ethnic groups, that is absorbing everybody and making them the integral part of a nation.


Don't take it seriously. Besides some really mess up places in Germany, Austria and generally xenofobe central-eastern Europe there is no racism toward africans in EU.
Especially Italy was pretty relaxed toward blacks.
What you read now is partially exaggerated, partially is the result of uncontrollable illegal immigration through Cicily, partially enforced by Berlusconi government. He introduced cheap "patriot" rhetoric on Italian soil. For example now they are trying to kill Alitalia using "patriotism" card...:cantbeli:

That's a BS statement. Every country in Europe has its fair share. I would even say the south moreso than the north.

[Holycrusader]

I'm Black and I live in the USA. I'm sure blessed by that.

It is very distressing to read about all the racial violence in Europe. Very distressing.:-(

Racial violence in Europe is very rare... Of course somretimes bad things happen. But I doubt that USA is so much safer. Do you can travel to some latino parts of ie. LA and feel safe there?
I think you will be there in bigger risk than in any place in Europe?

[Ordie]

Racial violence in Europe is very rare... Of course somretimes bad things happen. But I doubt that USA is so much safer. Do you can travel to some latino parts of ie. LA and feel safe there?
I think you will be there in bigger risk than in any place in Europe?

Some of the best foods and shops are located in Hispanic neighborhoods. Just don't wear either all red or all blue. The homies usually avoid civilians but will not hesitate to kill each other.

Only avoid areas where the liquor stores and pawn shops outnumber the restaurants and produce stores.

[DS73]

That's a BS statement. Every country in Europe has its fair share. I would even say the south moreso than the north.
oh those germans... :).
The south of what? Germany? definitely. The south of France, Spain? I don't think so. Actually the south of Italy was more friendly towards foreigners as well. That is why this area is overcrowded now.

"Fair share" depends very much on a country, and what to count as problems.
Racism is one thing, destroyed social equilibrium is something different.
Let face it: the anger toward blacks in Cicily or in some belgium cities has pretty much good reasons. The immigrant comunities literally "somalize" local areas there.
Knowing what people frequent "eastern european" discotheques in Germany I am not surprised with "the lack of tolerance" of some germans as well. Some european cities are really mess up. Obviously "the fight with racism" should include primarely the solutions for such places.
Get used with mentioned Germany and Austria. Local goverments in both countries too often stick their heads in the ground. Italian goverment though is not any better apparently.

[Eztyga]

Should be more of it, keeps the bastards in line.

Ezy

[PanzerMaster]

Should be more of it, keeps the bastards in line.

Ezy

Wat?

Massacres like this keeps the evil Mafia in power, and while the vast majority of victims in those killings are often criminals themselves, there are a lot of innocent bystanders or businessmen that want to avoid racket that are killed...

BTW at least 19 killings in that zone in 6 months...

[toki]

oh those germans... :).
The south of what? Germany? definitely. The south of France, Spain? I don't think so. Actually the south of Italy was more friendly towards foreigners as well. That is why this area is overcrowded now.

You said there's no racism towards Africans in the EU, but pointed out Germany and Austria. And southern Germany more racist? BS. If so, certain parts of the east.

This is just sport, but think about it, before you point out Germany. (Unthinkable in our top flight league.)
http://de.youtube.com/v/jwpO-nnFY9g

[Createdeemcee]

Damn, the banana on the field is just wrong. This makes me embrace the us eventhough we deal with it. Youll never see a banana fly, unless you see the banana thrower flying with it. I never would imagine in europe.

[204 Kaymaz]

Damn, the banana on the field is just wrong. This makes me embrace the us eventhough we deal with it. Youll never see a banana fly, unless you see the banana thrower flying with it. I never would imagine in europe.


happened alot in sweden to, but i guess it stoped now because you never hear about it anymore

[The_Android]

happened alot in sweden to, but i guess it stoped now because you never hear about it anymore

AIK supporters have a tradition of throwing bananas at the pitch when playing against Djurgården, but it's not a racist thing but rather comes from the name Djurgården (literally "animal garden" for those not understanding Swedish) and Djurgården supporters (hence) being called "monkeys" by other supporters.

But racism in the football terraces is still prevalent in many European countries. It's not as bad as it sometimes was but it's still a big problem in some countries (especially Eastern Europe).

[SBL]

I never would imagine in europe.

Wake up, dude. People are the same wherever you go- good and bad.

[Macs.]

You said there's no racism towards Africans in the EU, but pointed out Germany and Austria. And southern Germany more racist? BS. If so, certain parts of the east.

This is just sport, but think about it, before you point out Germany. (Unthinkable in our top flight league.)
http://de.youtube.com/v/jwpO-nnFY9g

Actually I remember someone throwing Bananas at Oliver Kahn.

Bananas = A fruit of insult.

[Laworkerbee]

wake up, dude. People are the same wherever you go- good and bad.

qft...........................

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Actually I remember someone throwing Bananas at Oliver Kahn.

Bananas = A fruit of insult.The fruit of hate. Ban it.

[Pvt.Anderson]

oh those germans... :).
The south of what? Germany? definitely. The south of France, Spain? I don't think so. Actually the south of Italy was more friendly towards foreigners as well. That is why this area is overcrowded now.

"Fair share" depends very much on a country, and what to count as problems.
Racism is one thing, destroyed social equilibrium is something different.
Let face it: the anger toward blacks in Cicily or in some belgium cities has pretty much good reasons. The immigrant comunities literally "somalize" local areas there.
Knowing what people frequent "eastern european" discotheques in Germany I am not surprised with "the lack of tolerance" of some germans as well. Some european cities are really mess up. Obviously "the fight with racism" should include primarely the solutions for such places.
Get used with mentioned Germany and Austria. Local goverments in both countries too often stick their heads in the ground. Italian goverment though is not any better apparently.

I don't like to say this but you are speaking out of your ass considering your opinion that racism is widely spread amonst Germany and Austria.
I don't know where you got your information from, but certainly not from personal experience.
In fact the amount of ignorance in your post is nothing else but staggering