LIV/SO Light Infantry Vehicle/Special Operations

[seventy6er]

Hi,

here are some nice pics of the German LIV/SO (light infantry vehicle/special operations), "Serval" that found at www.sondereinheiten.de.

I don't know if they've been posted before - if so ==> sorry.

These pictures were taken by Panzermeyer.


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0396.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0397.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0398.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0400.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0401.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0402.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0403.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0404.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0406.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0407.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0408.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0409.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0410.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0411.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0412.jpg


http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0443.jpg



These pics were taken by rinz_ya


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/Beifahrer.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/Ansicht%20von%20Hinten.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/G36K%20in%20Befestigung%7E0.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/Gesamtansicht.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/MG3%20von%20Beifahrer.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/Steuereinheit.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/G36K%2BSurpresser.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/G36%20in%20Halterung%2C%20von%20oben.jpg



I've already posted the following pics before, but I think they just belong here...


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/717122.jpg


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/513350.jpg


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/488727.jpg


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/942228.jpg


France and the Netherlands (and some other nations??) are said to have purchased some LIV/SF. Anybody got more info about that?

[He219]

Nice pic's, seventy6er!
:D

I like the Spade Grips on the MG3 ..

[seventy6er]

I've already posted the following pics before, but I think they just belong here...


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/717122.jpg


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/513350.jpg


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/488727.jpg


http://uploaded.fresh.co.il/2004/04/08/942228.jpg



Sorry, don't know what that is. Perhaps some of our Israeli friends canhelp out? Took these pics off an Israeli website. Maybe traffic exceeded?

[Macs.]

Sorry, don't know what that is. Perhaps some of our Israeli friends canhelp out? Took these pics off an Israeli website. Maybe traffic exceeded?

They don't allow relinking.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3870/488727.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9181/942228.jpg

That must be the old Wolf in Afghanistan.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4849/513350.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4073/717122.jpg


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/G36K%2BSurpresser.jpg

Is that a G36c Stock ?

And I miss the Holosight on the .50 BMG !

http://deutschesheer.de/relaunch/Contentbase2.nsf/c1256ced00519415c1256982003b7e87/766e26bf1371eda2c1256c7d0043793d/body/0.6EC?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg

[tac1911shooter]

Is it just me or is the position of the Eotech on top of the G36 out of whack. How do you get cheek placement? You don't I guess. Can somebody enlighten me on this please?

Tac

[scm77]

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3870/488727.jpg

Is that the recce (recon) version of the g-wagon that the Canadian Forces are getting? If it isn't does anybody have any pics of it?

[BlackRain]

Very nice vehicle.

The problem is that it is destined to have the same fate as the HMMWV.

Iraq/Afghanistan proved that these type of lightly armoured vehicles provide inadequate force protection.

The majority of vehicle related combat deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan involved HMMWV's. The light armour is ineffective againsts the two biggest insurgent weapons: the IED and the RPG.

The up-armoured HMMWV helps but was not designed to accommodate the excess weight. Thus, transmission and engine problems have been experienced.

These types of vehicles will have to go through a radical redesign in the future in order to survive the battlefield environment.

[TP]

Quess what?
The dutch special forces, KCT, is looking for a special vehicle that is heavyer than a normal Mercedes G and more equiped with weapons etc.

We might be getting this one...i hope
Or the Land Rover version
Does anyone have a pic of the Land Rover?

[Shrap]

Anybody knows why the guy didn't removed the stock red dot sight before adding his own eo-tech ?

[Macs.]

Anybody knows why the guy didn't removed the stock red dot sight before adding his own eo-tech ?

Thats a scope.

[big80a2]

these tings rock, they only ofer not much protection..

[seventy6er]

Is it just me or is the position of the Eotech on top of the G36 out of whack. How do you get cheek placement? You don't I guess. Can somebody enlighten me on this please?

Tac

I guess he did so to just to make the weapon look sexier (pics were taken during open door day).

[J-10]

Cool vehicle ! :D I like G36 rifle.

http://www.web301.s10.pixelx.de/Bilder/Meyer/DSCN0400.jpg

[Gringo]

Good pics. woot

[AVZ]

Black Rain wrote:

Very nice vehicle.

The problem is that it is destined to have the same fate as the HMMWV.

Iraq/Afghanistan proved that these type of lightly armoured vehicles provide inadequate force protection.

The majority of vehicle related combat deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan involved HMMWV's. The light armour is ineffective againsts the two biggest insurgent weapons: the IED and the RPG.



I wouldn't compare it directly with the Humvee. It's far more an option besides the LandRover.

I think the AGF/LIV is not designed for urban warfighting but plays it's role in reconaissance in wide open areas. Of course there's also a threat of IED/RPG.

Macs wrote:

Is that a G36c Stock ?


When I first saw the pic's on www.sondereinheiten.de I was thinking the same. And I believe that is an the short stock.
BEsides: Notice all the nice atttachments on the carbine:surpressor, Laser/Light/Module, 3xscope and Eotech + Pic-rails.
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/24869/G36K%2BSurpresser.jpg

[seventy6er]

That must be the old Wolf in Afghanistan.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4849/513350.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4073/717122.jpg


You're right - my bad (mixed up the links). That sure is the Wolf (G-Wagon).


Is that the recce (recon) version of the g-wagon that the Canadian Forces are getting?

Nope.

[Dennis G]

nice photos


can you provide any technical info on the vehicle?

[seventy6er]

Rheinmetall LIV/SO #1 (http://www.soldat-und-technik.de/8-2003/typenblatt-0803.htm)


Rheinmetall LIV/SO #2 (http://www.rheinmetall-detec.de/index.php?lang=3&fid=857)




http://www.rheinmetall.de/img/agf_25.jpg (http://www.rheinmetall.de/img/agf_25_gr.jpg)

click pic for hi-res-version, 2.1MB


http://www.rheinmetall.de/img/liv_27.jpg (http://www.rheinmetall.de/img/liv_27_gr.jpg)

click pic for hi-res-version, 1.9MB


http://www.rheinmetall.de/img/liv_28.jpg (http://www.rheinmetall.de/img/liv_28_gr.jpg)

click pic for hi-res-version, 1.4MB

[deutschersoldat]

Great pictures!!

but why do the have alloy-rims (alu felgen) ? does that make sense?

[Aripin11830]

These pictures were taken by Panzermeyer.


I can't see the pictures, any body can re-post or re-link ?

Thanks a lot,
Aripin

[deutschersoldat]

no, they are down at the moment

[Panzermeyer]

Sorry, but i had too much traffic on my webspace.
It will cost me some extra-money :cantbeli:


mkg
Panzermeyer

[seventy6er]

@ Panzermeyer

Sorry for causing so much traffic. Should I host the pics for some time? Still got 8 GB left for this month, so hosting for 1 or 2 days won't be a problem.

[seventy6er]

I love bumpin old threads ;)

Cause some of the pics are down, I decided to host them on my page. So here we go:

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_02.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_03.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_04.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_05.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_06.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_07.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_08.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_09.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_10.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_11.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_12.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_13.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_14.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_15.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_16.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_17.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_18.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_19.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_20.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_21.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_22.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_23.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_26.jpg


http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_27.jpg

New pics, anyone??!

[goldman]

Nice!

[Frank the soldier]

The Boys drive like a formula one master.
The vehicle is going rumpel,dröhn,knack,zisch.....

and I must repair this. But at the end of the Repair,I drive in a wood-area and give thunder...............

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a39/Baunach/MBG-ModellSonderversionenBW5.jpg

[seventy6er]

That's not the LIV (SO) or AGF Serval.

That's the "Wolf ESK"



http://www.rheinmetall-detec.de/img/news/4_esk.jpg


The Wolf ESK is an armored, air portable derivative of Mercedes-Benz G model 270 CDi vehicle suitable for special operations forces. It features excellent drive and off road characteristics, high reliability and low operating costs.

Different mission modules can be adapted to Wolf vehicle for missions ranging from materiel/personnel transport to command and control and communications. Its high mobility, low weight and firepower make Wolf suitable for special operations fighting missions.

The weapon options for the Wolf include a 12.7mm roof-mounted machine gun or alternatively a 40mm grenade launcher. Moreover, Wolf features front and rear mounts for 7.62mm machine guns.

The German Army could acquire up to 900 Wolf vehicles for its special operations forces.

http://www.deagel.com/img/lib/1h8412.jpg

http://www.deagel.com/img/lib/1h8413.jpg

[Marsuitor]

Iraq/Afghanistan proved that these type of lightly armoured vehicles provide inadequate force protection.

The majority of vehicle related combat deaths in Iraq/Afghanistan involved HMMWV's. The light armour is ineffective againsts the two biggest insurgent weapons: the IED and the RPG.
It has to be a tradeoff in some form. You won't get far in Afghanistan driving around in heavily armored four-wheelers, especially taking into account the type of work these guys will be doing it won't work.
Iraq is totally different though.

We ran into more than enough problems getting from A to B with our unarmored guntrucks, three extra tons won't help driving through that river and going up that 20-30 degree slope made of loose rock and mud.

Just my opinion...

[Frank the soldier]

Sorry ,
but the drive with this on the heavy area is very,very cool .
But the work before is ****. :D

[seventy6er]

Where's Omega7 when you need him? ;-)

[adi]

Why is this armour(?) perforated with such large holes?

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/2640/tempgrille3iu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[moughoun]

Why is this armour(?) perforated with such large holes?

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/2640/tempgrille3iu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
that's not armour, it's a sand channel, used for getting a bogged down vehicle out, when you're vehicle get's stuck, you put these under the wheel's to give some traction and support and you can drive out,hope this help's:)

[Irish]

that's not armour, it's a sand channel, used for getting a bogged down vehicle out, when you're vehicle get's stuck, you put these under the wheel's to give some traction and support and you can drive out,hope this help's:)

HI Moughoun..On duty over Christmas??

[adi]

thanks moughoun :-)

[seventy6er]

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_02.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_03.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_04.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_05.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_06.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_07.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_08.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_09.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_10.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_11.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_12.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_13.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_14.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_15.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_16.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_17.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_18.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_19.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_20.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_21.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_22.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_23.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_26.jpg

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/mil/AGF/AGF_Serval_27.jpg

Now some pics are up again

[Kvakva]

Great pics

[Thunder]

Looks like a good vehicle, it certainly isn't lacking the necessary firepower. I hope our troops are getting them as well.

Specifications according to Wikipedia:

Technische Daten und Ausstattung

* Entwicklung und Produktion: 2003
* Motor: CDI 270, 2,7 Liter 5-Zylindermotor mit 115 KW (156 PS) Dieselmotor
* Gewicht: 3.300 kg maximal 5.200 kg
* Länge/Breite/Höhe: 4.885mm / 1820 mm / 1870 mm
* Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 120 km/h
* Reichweite: > 500 km (Straße), mit Zusatztank > 800 km
* Hauptbewaffnung: bis zu zwei MG3 in 7,62 × 51 mm und Maschinengewehr M2HB in 12,7 mm oder Granatwerfer (40mm) auf der Dachlafette.
* Besatzung: Fahrer plus drei
* Antrieb: Allrad
* Räder mit Notlaufeigenschaften
* Vorne und hinten ausgerüstet mit einer Nebelmittelwurfanlage
* Luftverlastbar im Hubschrauber CH-53
* Integrierte Feuerlöschanlage
* Abnehmbare elektrische Seilwinde vorn
* Sandbleche
* GPS
* Überrollkäfig
* Erhöhter Luftansaugung für den Motor
* Reifendruckregelanlage
* Frontscheiben herausnehmbar