Chinese vs. American Thinking (Graphic)

[sinophile]

Opinion
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image001_thumb.jpg

Anger
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image005_thumb.jpg

Me
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image007_thumb.jpg

Party
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image009_thumb.jpg

Many more at: http://www.mountainrunner.us/2008/01/differences_between_eastern_an.html

[kutter]

Funny. Being Asian, I can actually relate to some of these. Especially the punctuality one.

[deagle]

this thread wins much, lol

[Hot Lips]

These two almost seem contradictory.

Way of Life (me vs community)
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image002_thumb.jpg

Queue when waiting (organized for the sake of community vs every man for himself)
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image006_thumb.jpg


After reviewing the rest I find that unbeknownst to me, I'm part Asian. My mother has some 'splain'in ta do!

[Ordie]

Queue when waiting (organized for the sake of community vs every man for himself)
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image006_thumb.jpg


After reviewing the rest I find that unbeknownst to me, I'm part Asian. My mother has some 'splain'in ta do!

This is sooo true.
I once boarded a plane in Xiamen China using the mobile stair case. Everyone crammed through the door even though everyone had reserved seating.

I just sat back and enjoyed the show thinking about what the last flight from Saigon would have looked.

[crayola]

****ing westerners eat snowflakes yeah

good show still

lot of the same goes for southasians

[hskywalker]

This is sooo true.
I once boarded a plane in Xiamen China using the mobile stair case. Everyone crammed through the door even though everyone had reserved seating.

I just sat back and enjoyed the show thinking about what the last flight from Saigon would have looked.
No reserved seating for luggages.
That picture has nothing to do with thinking, it is about social development levels.

[hskywalker]

Way of Life (me vs community)
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image002_thumb.jpg

This one is sad, at the same time china rejects individualism, it rejects creativity.

[Hot Lips]

I think the Way of Life one is over simplified. We have a tremendous sense of community without losing our sense of self to have it.

[Hot Lips]

This one might be more fitting, IMO, for Way of Life...

[Ordie]

OH, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat;But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,When two strong men stand face to face, tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!

- Kudyard Kipling

[SOG]

LOL, I love "Handling of Problems"
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image013_thumb.jpg

[SBL]

Hah, those are pretty good.

[SOG]

These two almost seem contradictory.

Way of Life (me vs community)
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image002_thumb.jpg

Queue when waiting (organized for the sake of community vs every man for himself)
http://mountainrunner.us/WindowsLiveWriter/DifferencesbetweenEasternandWesterncultu_B0A6/clip_image006_thumb.jpg


After reviewing the rest I find that unbeknownst to me, I'm part Asian. My mother has some 'splain'in ta do!

I don't understand the way of life one either. Are they saying we have no family or friends? That's really odd basing our society off of loners.

As for the second one, I agree with it but maybe that is my interpretation. I simply see it how we wait in line at events for certain things. We tend to be more orderly with lines everywhere like the theater. Whereas I have seen Chinese form mobs instead of lines. They just seem to gather around.

Nevermind, I get the way of life community thingy. I agree to an extent but I have to say it would depend on where you live.

[SBL]

^Individuality vs. the community.

[SOG]

^Individuality vs. the community.

Yeah it reminded me of the saying "Good fences make good neighbors". We are like that quite a bit.

[Macs.]

This was actually made by a Chinese living in Germany... :roll:

http://www.yangliudesign.com/

[Weasel]

It´s older than the sun.

[Gawel1410]

This is sooo true.
I once boarded a plane in Xiamen China using the mobile stair case. Everyone crammed through the door even though everyone had reserved seating.

I just sat back and enjoyed the show thinking about what the last flight from Saigon would have looked.

haha, many eastern europeans do this, including my own countrymen do this,:), were funny since after living for the rest of my life in the states, it hiralious (sry spelling error :-().

[WarDancer]

Ok, this thread is way over my head.

[Fage]

the questions is : which u think will be the next country to invade ? NICE GEOGRAPHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/XsRJQe6s_OM&feature=related

[Ordie]

^^^^^
LOL

We deserve to roll in crap.

[khukuri]

I actually agree on most of the fepictions.How ever, they should have made one about individual freedom and deviance from the norm as well.

There is no doubt that there is good things about both a collectivist soceity and and individualist one. Personally Im an individualist stemming form a collective culture. I think collectivist cultures scare me but I miss some of the good things about them. Specially in times like these when the ecenomy is bad and everyone is out for himself.

[paulhewsoon]

^Individuality vs. the community.

Ind vs. Comm. Should not be a problem, but what happens is that Red and Blue tend to go to the Edge of these ways of living...

[Schpetzka]

^^^^
I was wondering why everyone was putting pins on Australia until they zoomed in and I saw it was labeled North Korea! WOW their geography knowledge sucks! :cantbeli:

[Karaahmetoglu]

Edit delete post something funky is happening.

[Karaahmetoglu]

the questions is : which u think will be the next country to invade ? NICE GEOGRAPHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/XsRJQe6s_OM&feature=related


I see what you have and I raise you this!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD843AXMTJE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANTDkfkoBaI

Well at least she knows there is a country called Turkey^^^
Sorry about that embed failed!

[rodin_hsu]

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6241/clipimage0172rm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This is one of the amazing things that I have noticed.

Many Asians take a shower at night before they go to bed.
Many Americans take a shower in the morning before they go to work/school.

Can anybody explain why? Does that help you wake up or can make you smell good to your colleague?

[matthew.manhorn]

It is quite true, but I disagree with the individuality vs community thing.

Chinese are one of the most foreigner-loving people on earth.

The most anti-Chinese people are Chinese themselves.

[SBL]

chinese are one of the most foreigner-loving people on earth.


b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t

[Eventine]

Chinese are one of the most foreigner-loving people on earth.



b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t

It depends on where you are in China. It also depends on what kind of foreigner you are. Generalizations are seldom accurate.

[matthew.manhorn]

b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t

-If you enter a bathroom of a Chinese nightclub you'll find those Chinese giving towels ONLY to white men because white men are "rich", and stalk them afterwards for more $$$.

-China has more civil wars than its foreign warfares throughout history.

-If you were a Chinese working overseas you'd rather have a white boss than a Chinese boss since the Chinese boss will never promote you due to jealousy and competition.

oh yea, and those Chinese who gather in those Segregated Chinese Churches aren't considered Chinese since they're assimilated by western capitalistic Christianity!

[SBL]

-If you enter a bathroom of a Chinese nightclub you'll find those Chinese giving towels ONLY to white men because white men are "rich", and stalk them afterwards for more $$$.

-China has more civil wars than its foreign warfares throughout history.

-If you were a Chinese working overseas you'd rather have a white boss than a Chinese boss since the Chinese boss will never promote you due to jealousy and competition.

oh yea, and those Chinese who gather in those Segregated Chinese Churches aren't considered Chinese since they're assimilated by western capitalistic Christianity!

Still bull****. That has everything to do with the cash-money, and very little to do with being 'foreigner lovers".

[matthew.manhorn]

Still bull****. That has everything to do with the cash-money, and very little to do with being 'foreigner lovers".

-Chinese chicks dig on white men for citizenships for a western life.

-CCP abandoned Chinese culture and adopted Jewish communism.

-Chinese oppress local Buddhism (Tibetan, FLG) while convert themselves to Western Christianity.

-Chinese teenage boys watch Japanese **** instead of local ones.

I won't list more since I guess you got the point of my statement.

[Dling]

Conversely, white women seem to take amusement on asians. I've asked white girls why but to no avail.

[SBL]

-Chinese chicks dig on white men for citizenships for a western life.

-CCP abandoned Chinese culture and adopted Jewish communism.

-Chinese oppress local Buddhism (Tibetan, FLG) while convert themselves to Western Christianity.

-Chinese teenage boys watch Japanese **** instead of local ones.

I won't list more since I guess you got the point of my statement.
Well that all strikes me as materialism- what can be gained out of connection to 'westerners' rather than any abiding love or interest in Western people or culture.
I contend that Chinese are pretty insular by most standards.

[Mr.Flint]

-Chinese teenage boys watch Japanese **** instead of local ones.

There is Chinese professional ****?

[Eventine]

Well that all strikes me as materialism- what can be gained out of connection to 'westerners' rather than any abiding love or interest in Western people or culture.
I contend that Chinese are pretty insular by most standards.

What peoples are non-insular, by your standards? Personally, when talking about whether people "love all things foreign" it is always necessary to make the point that this love tends to be very specific. Many Asians (Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Indian, etc.) love Western culture, but ask them the same about certain other cultures and I suspect they'll likely draw a blank - or even profess disgust. The West is not immune to this tendency, either - consider Japanophilia and its counterpart, Islamophobia.

I would argue that the quality you guys are (really) looking for is open-mindedness, which measures people's tolerance of new ideas, cultures, and relations. On this spectrum I would not place the modern Chinese at the forefront, but I wouldn't place them at the end, either. Since there is a disturbing lack of evidence in this thread, let me just mention one for and one against:

(For) The Communist Revolution was all about the infusion of new ideas and social paradigms. China, a civilization several thousands year ago, managed to nearly overhaul its entire society during a few decades. Feudalism was utterly abolished. Time-tested traditions were thrown out. Confucianism - the basis of Chinese morality for thousands of years - was denounced and replaced with Marxism. Nominally a failure (due to the inherent flaws of Communism itself), the Communist Revolution still could not have occurred in a society that refused to accept foreign ideas. Many would argue that this cultural "self-cleansing," much like the Meiji Restoration in Japan, laid the foundations for China's present modernization drive, and shows a great deal of open-mindedness since it was not (and is not) afraid to import foreign cultures and ideas wholesale.

(Against) Yet, at the same time, China has an insular side. Even though traditional taboos like homo******ity and women's rights are increasingly recognized, resistance remains. It is not uncommon for scholars within China's intelligentsia to argue against modernization and to exalt traditional Chinese values. The CCP itself cannot be said to be too enlightened, either - as a dictatorship, it is clearly not open to certain new ideas. The recent public backlash against the West during the Olympic torch run is an example of "insular China" - still suffering from an inferiority complex, still distrusting of the outside. (Though, to be fair, you should ask yourself the following question - why would the Chinese care about their international image, or Western criticism, if they were truly insular?)

So which is the real China? I'd argue, once again, that it depends. Since open-mindedness is as much an individual choice as it is a societal choice, it is often dangerous to paint with a broad stroke. There are many open-minded Chinese, and there are many close-minded Chinese. Not only does the degree of open-mindedness vary throughout China, but the form, too, changes. People in Shanghai and Hong Kong, for example, might be very open-minded about the West (the latter, in particular, is - as a result of British acculturation - among the most Western-oriented of all Asian societies), but towards many of their own countrymen, they might be less open-minded - to the point of considering Chinese from other cities and provinces uncivilized. By contrast, people in the rural areas might be less ****e to class discrimination, but they might also be more conservative and tradition-minded. Thus, different forms of open-mindedness (and therefore different forms of insularity) coexist.

Some commentators in the West make a habit out of pointing out how conservative and insular Chinese society is; others endlessly extol the newfound openness and foreign-friendly atmosphere of cosmopolitan China. The truth, I suspect, is somewhere in between.

[matthew.manhorn]

Chinese tend to gather around with other Chinese due to language barriers etc...but Chinese hate their own race more than they do towards foreigners.

[ocean]

Chinese tend to gather around with other Chinese due to language barriers etc...but Chinese hate their own race more than they do towards foreigners.

How do you know? if that's the case then we should all immigrate to China to get a better life.

[Ordie]

-If you enter a bathroom of a Chinese nightclub you'll find those Chinese giving towels ONLY to white men because white men are "rich", and stalk them afterwards for more $$$.

-China has more civil wars than its foreign warfares throughout history.

-If you were a Chinese working overseas you'd rather have a white boss than a Chinese boss since the Chinese boss will never promote you due to jealousy and competition.

oh yea, and those Chinese who gather in those Segregated Chinese Churches aren't considered Chinese since they're assimilated by western capitalistic Christianity!

-Chinese chicks dig on white men for citizenships for a western life.

-CCP abandoned Chinese culture and adopted Jewish communism.

-Chinese oppress local Buddhism (Tibetan, FLG) while convert themselves to Western Christianity.

-Chinese teenage boys watch Japanese **** instead of local ones.

I won't list more since I guess you got the point of my statement.

matthew manhorn,

How did you come up with these generalities?

[lzdbb]

How do you know? if that's the case then we should all immigrate to China to get a better life.

Oh, it's so diffcult. Since 1949,less than 10 foreigner got china nationality.
It's an impossible task!

[vinny_121_ND]

Conversely, white women seem to take amusement on asians. I've asked white girls why but to no avail.

I know a few white girls dating/marrying asian guys. It all depends on who you ask.

[matthew.manhorn]

I know a few white girls dating/marrying asian guys. It all depends on who you ask.

Which they will get divorced / dumped when they reach their 40's lol

[Dling]

Which they will get divorced / dumped when they reach their 40's lol

Nah, if they have enough asian doctrine drilled in their heads things seem to go stable. If there's one thing I respect about my family/relatives, its the family values that they've been brought up with.