The Weathermen tried to kill my family.

[sir-chimp]

In February 1970, my father, a New York State Supreme Court justice, was presiding over the trial of the so-called “Panther 21,” members of the Black Panther Party indicted in a plot to bomb New York landmarks and department stores. Early on the morning of February 21, as my family slept, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at our home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. (Today, of course, we’d call that a car bomb.) A neighbor heard the first two blasts and, with the remains of a snowman I had built a few days earlier, managed to douse the flames beneath the car. That was an act whose courage I fully appreciated only as an adult, an act that doubtless saved multiple lives that night.

I still recall, as though it were a dream, thinking that someone was lifting and dropping my bed as the explosions jolted me awake, and I remember my mother’s pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn’t leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside. The same night, bombs were thrown at a police car in Manhattan and two military recruiting stations in Brooklyn. Sunlight, the next morning, revealed three sentences of blood-red graffiti on our sidewalk: FREE THE PANTHER 21; THE VIET CONG HAVE WON; KILL THE PIGS.


http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html

Its funny how the left treats treat their terrorist. Why from looking at Ayers current associations and the fact he holds a tax payer funded job "educating" young people you would almost think they admire and sympathize with his terrorist acts. Acts for which he is unrepentant, says he didnt do enough.

The only difference between Ayers group of wackos and Timothy McVeigh is McVeigh had a few more braincells when it came to carrying out his terrorist act then Ayers and his group, and unfortunately succeeded where they tried and failed. The most important difference between them is Timothy McVeigh is dead at the hand of the justice system as Ayers and his pals should be.

Funny what the left can justify.

[avedis]

No wonder the education system is going down the tubes. No offense to the good educators.

[madjack]

Off topic but I understand that in the latest zombie movie a bunch of them vote for Obama. And why not? I'm sure many of the otherwise dead will be casting their vote for The One this year. We're due for another trip on the magic bus to Carterland, and Obama is the driver.

[BlisteringFreakachu]

And Obama actually communicated with this man?! This is blasphemy! Obama might as well have done 9/11!

[sct1886]

Obama historically and frequently associated himself with communist, extremist and wacko's in general. Any person has to be judged by those whom he associates themselves with. As a friend said no wonder the call them "Dems".

[BlisteringFreakachu]

Obama historically and frequently associated himself with communist, extremist and wacko's in general. Any person has to be judged by those whom he associates themselves with. As a friend said no wonder the call them "Dems".

I'm sure everyone who knew Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold or Cho, etc. is a future spree-killer. If Obama has never directly participated in his actions, and has even denounced them, why does it matter if Obama "knew" him? It's just a smear campaign, and it's really getting pathetic.

[seraosha]

It's not a smear campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy

And your argument is invalid.

[Kaplanr]

I don't know. As an parent and educator he's been a much more responsible adult and practicioner of family values than . . . Newt Gingrich or any 1/2 dozen evangleical ministers who like hookers and men.

[Ordie]

How can Obama be involved with the Weathermen?
He was an 8 year old in Hawaii at the time.

[Polygon]

It's not a smear campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy

And your argument is invalid.

Yeah, actually, I do think it is a smear campaign. It's a move of desperation on the part of the McCain camp to overplay the relationship of Ayers to Obama where in reality, it wasn't that significant. At least not significant in the sense that Obama was some kind of terrorist sympathizer or supporter.

Obama was on the same board with Ayers, and there was a "meet and greet" function, but nothing more for the most part.


The New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times) reported that Obama did not have a significent relationship with Ayers.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy#cite_note-16) According to several people, Ayers played no role in starting Obama's career which was primarly launched when Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, suggested Obama be appointed as chairman of the board of the the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago

[BlisteringFreakachu]

It's not a smear campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy

And your argument is invalid.


From that article:

"However, investigations by journalists concluded that Obama does not have a close relationship with Ayers."

"Obama condemned Ayers' past, and stated he does not have a close association with Ayers."

"Sarah Palin delivered speeches claiming that Obama is 'palling around with terrorists'. For support, Palin cited a New York Times article despite that article's conclusion that Obama and Ayers were not close. The article stated that other 'publications, including The Washington Post, Time, The Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have said that their reporting doesn't support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.' CNN has independently deemed Palin's allegations false, saying: 'There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now 'palling around,' or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are."




From the Wiki article on "Smear Campaign":

"Smears often consist of ad hominem attacks in the form of unverifiable rumors and are often distortions, half-truths, or even outright lies; smear campaigns are often propagated by gossip spreading. Even when the facts behind a smear are shown to lack proper foundation, the tactic is often effective because the target's reputation is tarnished before the truth is known."

[seraosha]

You guys missed the point...

So what flavor is that Koolaid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy

[hank]

How can Obama be involved with the Weathermen?
He was an 8 year old in Hawaii at the time.

Ordie, I've had to tell you now too many times that you need to stop bringing up these inconvenient facts. Ok? Please. Page 4 of the talking points addresses this.

hank

[BlisteringFreakachu]

You guys missed the point...

So what flavor is that Koolaid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy


... What exactly is your argument?

[budgie]

You guys missed the point...

So what flavor is that Koolaid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy

"The Community has placed this article on article probation. Editors making disruptive edits may be blocked temporarily from editing the encyclopedia, banned by an administrator from this and related articles and pages, and/or subject to other administrative remedies, according to standards that may be higher than elsewhere on Wikipedia. Please see Talk:Barack Obama/Article probation for full information and to review the decision..
"

Gayest thing I've ever said but...pwned

[Jobu]

Ayers and Obama were friends. That is simply a fact and everybody in Chicago knows it. Chicago is a horribly corrupt "I watch your back and you watch mine" political cesspool.

Do you think for one moment that Ayers would have made Obama chairman of his "education board" if they were strangers?

Get real people.

They were neighbors in Hyde Park.
Ayers hosted fundraisers for Obama.
Michelle Obama organized several panel discussions to feature both her husband and Ayers together.
etc. etc.


To suggest they were not friends is utter bullcrap.

[Laworkerbee]

How can Obama be involved with the Weathermen?
He was an 8 year old in Hawaii at the time.

Oh please don't be coy, this Ayers helped launch Obama's political career and of course Obama knows the man and what he did in the past, why can't everyone just be honest about this and move on?

[Ordie]

Oh please don't be coy, this Ayers helped launch Obama's political career and of course Obama knows the man and what he did in the past, why can't everyone just be honest about this and move on?

The biggest drop in the Dow Jones yesterday and all that Palin wants to do smear by guilty of association.

It reminds me of Monty Python.

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/witch.gif

[Hollis]

Oh please don't be coy, this Ayers helped launch Obama's political career and of course Obama knows the man and what he did in the past, why can't everyone just be honest about this and move on?


Honesty and politics don't seem to be compatible. Amazing at how people will defend a "issue" at all cost or spin it all cost.

[hank]

Ayers and Obama were friends. That is simply a fact and everybody in Chicago knows it. Chicago is a horribly corrupt "I watch your back and you watch mine" political cesspool.

Do you think for one moment that Ayers would have made Obama chairman of his "education board" if they were strangers?

Get real people.

They were neighbors in Hyde Park.
Ayers hosted fundraisers for Obama.
Michelle Obama organized several panel discussions to feature both her husband and Ayers together.
etc. etc.


To suggest they were not friends is utter bullcrap.

And friends in Chicago now is a far cry from Obama as an 8 year old living outside the US "supported" Ayers when he was being a terrorist. Get it?

hank

[hank]

Oh please don't be coy, this Ayers helped launch Obama's political career and of course Obama knows the man and what he did in the past, why can't everyone just be honest about this and move on?

Being honest that they knew each other is happening. I've read numerous comments where Obama's camp say they know each other but Obama doesn't support what he did. And there is nothing wrong with that.

But Jobu and the crew - and now Palin - want to say that Obama is a terrorist because he knows Ayers. That's crap. Obama was 8 and living outside the US when Ayers did what he did. And nobody - especially Obama - is condoning what Ayers did because its deplorable. But trying to smear Obama as a terrorost because he knows the guy is ridiculous.

I've seen pictures of Cheney shaking hands with Saddam. By the Palin logic isn't Cheney a Saddam supporter?

hank

[Big D]

Olberman's comment on this thing. funny and true, but if you're a KO hater just ignore it and move on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WN_V8FpleI

[Laworkerbee]

Being honest that they knew each other is happening. I've read numerous comments where Obama's camp say they know each other but Obama doesn't support what he did. And there is nothing wrong with that.

But Jobu and the crew - and now Palin - want to say that Obama is a terrorist because he knows Ayers. That's crap. Obama was 8 and living outside the US when Ayers did what he did. And nobody - especially Obama - is condoning what Ayers did because its deplorable. But trying to smear Obama as a terrorost because he knows the guy is ridiculous.

I've seen pictures of Cheney shaking hands with Saddam. By the Palin logic isn't Cheney a Saddam supporter?

hank

Once again I do not understand why the Obama campaign doesn't address this head on. The same thing goes for the McCain campaign not tackling the accusations surrounding the Keating 5 in which McCain was investigated and cleared, I do not understand the folks running these campaigns.

Just speak to us like adults, I think the Average American can handle it.

[gaijinsamurai]

As far as I'm concerned, the Obama-Ayers relationship is a non-issue. I had a good friend and roommate who was a member of Fatah in the 1980's, and I'm no more of a terrorist than Mike Huckabee.

That having been said, Obama and his supporters would probably do themselves a favor by simply acknowledging the truth of the matter and moving on. Half-truths and denials just make people more suspicious and add fuel to the fire.

[Laworkerbee]

I had a good friend and roommate who was a member of Fatah in the 1980's, and I'm no more of a terrorist than Mike Huckabee.

*noted for future reference*

[gaijinsamurai]

Oops.......

[Laworkerbee]

Before your next security evaluation I suggest sending the Bee and nice bottle of Johnny Walker p-)

[gaijinsamurai]

Actually, he was an interesting guy. Born in Rafah in the Gaza Strip, his family was originally from Beersheeba. He grew up in Libya, and in 1982, went to Lebanon and joined Fatah because it was expected of him. Eventually, he grew very disillusioned with Yasir Arafat, the PLO, and eventually, even Islam.
When we were friends, he had been given the cold shoulder by a lot of Arabs and Muslims, due to his secular beliefs, acceptance of Israel, and rejection of armed struggle.

[Big D]

too late, the party van is on its way

[SBL]

Gaijinsamurai= terrorist sympathizer.

[Laworkerbee]

Actually, he was an interesting guy. Born in Rafah in the Gaza Strip, his family was originally from Beersheeba. He grew up in Libya, and in 1982, went to Lebanon and joined Fatah because it was expected of him. Eventually, he grew very disillusioned with Yasir Arafat, the PLO, and eventually, even Islam.
When we were friends, he had been given the cold shoulder by a lot of Arabs and Muslims, due to his secular beliefs, acceptance of Israel, and rejection of armed struggle.

The man who walked me through the Quron and taught me basic Arabic is still a Fatah member and lives in Jerusalem, he is a good man and I know his sons and nephews well (attending weddings, baby births, etc.). It's like growing up in East Los Angeles, you are going to be friends and cousins with bangers, there's just no way around it. We don't talk politics, we have argued about it and they just won't budge or listen to reason, still no reason we can't be friends and send each other cards on the holidays.

[gaijinsamurai]

Gaijinsamurai= terrorist sympathizer.

Hahahaha! Eat a ****!!!!!

[gaijinsamurai]

The man who walked me through the Quron and taught me basic Arabic is still a Fatah member and lives in Jerusalem, he is a good man and I know his sons and nephews well (attending weddings, baby births, etc.). It's like growing up in East Los Angeles, you are going to be friends and cousins with bangers, there's just no way around it. We don't talk politics, we have argued about it and they just won't budge or listen to reason, still no reason we can't be friends and send each other cards on the holidays.

If everyone were like my friend, there wouldn't be a problem between Arabs and Israelis. We definitely didn't agree on everything, and there definitely were cultural differences, but he was someone who could see and respect the Israeli perspective, and knew that the majority of his own people were doing nothing but prolonging the conflict. He even went as far as to say the worst thing to ever happen to the Arabs was Islam, and he was happy when Arafat died.

[Connaught Ranger]

Gaijinsamurai= terrorist sympathizer.

So where does that leave anybody who bought a Jane Fonda workout tape or movie,:roll:rofl

By the way was one of her husbands not connected with the Weathermen.

And an alleged police murder??:|

Connaught Ranger:)

[Ordie]

My College classmate was a former PLA Officer. (He's now an economist)

One of my Navy shipmate's cousin is Saheed Erekat, senior official within the PLO. (He runs a grocery business in SF)

I had lunch with Dora Maria Tellez, a former Sandinista rebel commander. (She's a professor)

My Dad's friends was an active member of the ERP cell in Argentina and took part in several bank heists during the Dirty War. (He's a bouncer at a club)

One of my co-workers was a member of the Black Panthers in Oakland. (He's a mechanical engineer and part-time minister)

I did not seek nor ask to meet them.

But guilty of association does not mean anything.

If that were the case, then George W. is three degrees from OBL through his father's connections with the Bin Laden construction company. Therefore making him a friend of terrorists.

[gaijinsamurai]

One of my Navy shipmate's cousin is Saheed Erekat, senior official within the PLO. (He runs a grocery business in SF)
.

I was friends with another member of the Erekat family, who received his PhD. in Physics from the University of Oregon. He's now a university professor in Bahrain, and when I had three days of liberty there in 2000, he was a great host.

[hank]

Once again I do not understand why the Obama campaign doesn't address this head on. The same thing goes for the McCain campaign not tackling the accusations surrounding the Keating 5 in which McCain was investigated and cleared, I do not understand the folks running these campaigns.

Just speak to us like adults, I think the Average American can handle it.

They have repeatedly. This story is old and every time it comes up it gets addressed and then it goes away for a while. Then sir chimp reads a poll and brings it up again and its news on mp.net. But its not news anywhere else. Obama has personally spoken about this as have other members of his campaign.

It has as much legs as the Keating stuff with McCain. That is to say none except that Pali brought it up again Sunday out of the blue. Google this story and you'll see its out again only because Palin took the gloves off Sunday and said Obama was "palling" around with Ayers and Ayers is a terrorist. But Obama said long ago that he's on a board with Ayers, that he denounces what Ayers did and that is it.

hank

[California Joe]

Gawd forbid I try to run for office anywhere after spending 5 years "associating" with all of you retards. :)

[Laworkerbee]

I was friends with another member of the Erekat family, who received his PhD. in Physics from the University of Oregon. He's now a university professor in Bahrain, and when I had three days of liberty there in 2000, he was a great host.

Arab's usually are, to the point where I get embarrassed at times at the way I'm treated like friggen royalty.


Gawd forbid I try to run for office anywhere after spending 5 years "associating" with all of you retards. :)

I've considered that, I figured I would have to track down and kill Robbee.

Hank

A few months ago I remember telling folks I was comfortable with whomever was elected president, that I felt the country was in good hands with either candidate, now I'm not so sure about either one and might just stay home. Truth be told I'm more concerned with our mayoral elections coming up than I am in the presidency. Not to sound like a follower but more than likely I'll see who a few members here are voting for and dog pile on top, you and CJ are on my short list of people to watch.

But not Ordie, I love the man but he is a God damned Cawmunist.

[Hollis]

Gaijin, I got you beat, I served with Hoi, who was (ex) Viet Cong, and Ding who was (ex) North Viet-Namese Army, There was Trum, But I think eventually one of us would have got around to shooting him. Ayers Weather days are over or are they.


Walid Sobat, is ex PLO or Fatah, but he presents a new image of himself.


Now So Obama knows radicals and would be radicals and wannabe radicals, he also knows other people. I wonder if Obama associates with any right wing Republicans?


This is the same crap, that people throw out there about Palin and her minister, problem is Palin's minister is sedate compared to the Rev. Wright.

We have the Keating 5, that is much more known and it is known no harm was done by McCain.


After saying all of that, I think Gaijin sums it, pretty much, up for me:


As far as I'm concerned, the Obama-Ayers relationship is a non-issue. I had a good friend and roommate who was a member of Fatah in the 1980's, and I'm no more of a terrorist than Mike Huckabee.

That having been said, Obama and his supporters would probably do themselves a favor by simply acknowledging the truth of the matter and moving on. Half-truths and denials just make people more suspicious and add fuel to the fire.

[Connaught Ranger]

Remember the Heinz 57?

[hank]

LAWB, I agree with you. I'm not jazzed about any of them. But this issue to me is such a non issue. There is no connection between that 2 that is nefarious. Why? Obama was 8 when it happened and living outside the US. Its just too farfetched.

We have so many issues that need to be addressed and we are worrying about Ayers? Really? We are and should be better than that as a constituency.

hank

[Cornerstone]

LAWB, I agree with you. I'm not jazzed about any of them. But this issue to me is such a non issue. There is no connection between that 2 that is nefarious. Why? Obama was 8 when it happened and living outside the US. Its just too farfetched.

We have so many issues that need to be addressed and we are worrying about Ayers? Really? We are and should be better than that as a constituency.

hank
He is currentley a very respectable professor BTW, not that it makes up for what he did...

This is America people, the land of second, third, fourth chances

[hank]

I'm troubled by Ayers and the fact that he has not denounced his actions. I'm all for second chances but you need to admit you did wrong first. Ayers hasn't done that. I just don't see why Obama's done anything wrong or how he's tied in any way to what Ayers did.

hank

[sir-chimp]

Frankly most of you are missing the point, which was not about Obama

1. Ayers targeted and tried to kill his fellow Americans for a political cause - read terrorist

2. Ayers is unrepentant - says he didnt do enough

3. Ayers in a interview stated that if given a chance would he do it all over again, he would not discount that possibility.

4. Ayers is embraced by the left wing community

5. Ayers (a known terrorist) is given a tax payer funded job at a left wing institution ( otherwise known as a American state college - one that my tax dollars support)

6. If you are gullible enough to believe that Ayers is not the same person he was when he was committing terrorist acts then we might as well bring Timothy McVeigh back from the dead and give him a tenured position as a professor.


7. Ayers is high up in the local left wing community because they sympathize and "understand" his terrorist actions because they reflect their own beliefs


8. If you want to bring Obama into this fine. At the very least he is guilty of going along with his fellow members of the local left wing community as accepting a terrorist as one of them, guilty of working for one of a known terrorist's cause's, and guilty of using help from that known terrorist to launch his political career.

9. Why did he do all this? Because at a minimum Obamas road to power from the local lefts level led through a powerful local left player named Ayers - a known and unrepentant terrorist.

10. If you are going to commit terrorist acts in the US it is advised you follow a left wing manifesto as it will lead to political power, endearment, respect, and a cushy tax payer job - possibly even a book deal or two. Hell you will probably even get pardoned by a left wing President - just ask Susan L. Rosenberg.

[Kaplanr]

So you're implying that the 45-53% of Americans who it looks like are going to vote for Obama are also radical left-wingers too?

[akd]

So you're implying that the 45-53% of Americans who it looks like are going to vote for Obama are also radical left-wingers too?

Only a small percentage are true believers. Ayers would call many of the remainder "useful idiots." One of Obama's greatest strengths is his ability to appear as an empty glass devoid of political ideology that people can fill with their own ideas of hopiness and changery. Obama's record and backgroud is far left. He is undeniably a leftist Chicago politician, and that is something that the vast majority of Americans would be uncomfortable with if they took some time to contemplate the implications. Yet despite history, millions are convinced he is a moderate uniter.

[California Joe]

Only a small percentage are true believers. Ayers would call many of the remainder "useful idiots."

or on the other hand....Useful idiots = Joe Six Pack.

[Laworkerbee]

or on the other hand....Useful idiots = Joe Six Pack.

Who is Joe's polar opposite, Steve Martini?

[California Joe]

It can't be Jose Tequila, he's illegal.

[hank]

I vote for Cosmo Bob. It brings in the moetro component that is contrary to Joe Sixpack.

hank

[Laworkerbee]

It can't be Jose Tequila, he's illegal.

Yeah but chances are he's voting anyway. We don't need no stinking registration cards!

[California Joe]

Coincidence? I think not...

http://blogs.sun.com/docteger/resource/Weather_Girls_Raining_Men.jpg

[BlisteringFreakachu]

Frankly most of you are missing the point, which was not about Obama

You posted this article for the sole reason of attempting to uphold this weak and overall pathetic attempt at a smear campaign against Obama.


1. Ayers targeted and tried to kill his fellow Americans for a political cause - read terrorist

What a terrible dude. But we all know that the "right" is incapable of acts of terror.


2. Ayers is unrepentant - says he didnt do enough

Okay.

"The one thing I don't regret is opposing the war in Vietnam with every ounce of my being.... When I say, 'We didn't do enough,' a lot of people rush to think, 'That must mean, "We didn't bomb enough ****."' But that's not the point at all. It's not a tactical statement, it's an obvious political and ethical statement. In this context, 'we' means 'everyone.'" - Ayers


3. Ayers in a interview stated that if given a chance would he do it all over again, he would not discount that possibility.

Alright. Guess he was a jerk.


4. Ayers is embraced by the left wing community


Obama condemned Ayers's past, and stated he does not have a close association with Ayers.

Utterly embraced.


5. Ayers (a known terrorist) is given a tax payer funded job at a left wing institution ( otherwise known as a American state college - one that my tax dollars support)

Okay.


6. If you are gullible enough to believe that Ayers is not the same person he was when he was committing terrorist acts then we might as well bring Timothy McVeigh back from the dead and give him a tenured position as a professor.

People change over time. Though he holds alike views, I wouldn't say that evidence suggests that he's as much as an extremist as he was.

Also, does Timothy McVeigh prove that Libertarians are all terrorists too, right?


7. Ayers is high up in the local left wing community because they sympathize and "understand" his terrorist actions because they reflect their own beliefs

I wouldn't call him "high up".


8. If you want to bring Obama into this fine. At the very least he is guilty of going along with his fellow members of the local left wing community as accepting a terrorist as one of them, guilty of working for one of a known terrorist's cause's, and guilty of using help from that known terrorist to launch his political career.

As far as I know, Ayers is no longer attempting to commit acts of terror, therefore the title "ex-terrorist" would be far more appropriate. An ex-terrorist in politics. That's not surprising, as virtually all their goals involve politics. He shouldn't be considered a terrorist because he spoke to the man. That just doesn't make any sense. "Guilty by association" is not applicable in this case.


9. Why did he do all this? Because at a minimum Obamas road to power from the local lefts level led through a powerful local left player named Ayers - a known and unrepentant terrorist.


The New York Times reported that Obama did not have a significant relationship with Ayers. According to several people, Ayers played no role in starting Obama's career which was primarily launched when Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, suggested Obama be appointed as chairman of the board of the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago.


10. If you are going to commit terrorist acts in the US it is advised you follow a left wing manifesto as it will lead to political power, endearment, respect, and a cushy tax payer job - possibly even a book deal or two. Hell you will probably even get pardoned by a left wing President - just ask Susan L. Rosenberg.

hay guyz ppl on the left are terrorrrists alolololol Xd

I mean really, you're acting as if Ayers is the personification of the left when he's certainly not.

[sir-chimp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ


Insightful video on not only Obamas relationship with Ayers but also touches on the regard members of the local Chicago left have for the terrorist

[BlisteringFreakachu]

Obama's a TERRORIST!!!11one!

[BugHunt]

Weatherman once tried to kill a whole nation..... :|

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Michael_Fish_2007.jpg

[sir-chimp]

Dont forget the Darth Roveian weather machine and the Cult of Meteorologist known as the Damp Pants Cult that used it to cause hurricane Katrina

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5581/vaderroveym5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Hollis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ


Insightful video on not only Obamas relationship with Ayers but also touches on the regard members of the local Chicago left have for the terrorist


What is interesting is that this program is being done by CNN.

[Ought Six]

K:
"I don't know. As an parent and educator he's {Obama} been a much more responsible adult and practicioner of family values than . . . Newt Gingrich...."You obviously do not know that Newt Gingrich is a parent and educator (college history professor). Fail.

[loganinkosovo]

Ayers is bad enough

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/sowing_acorns_to_reap_the_bigg.html

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/10/07/mitchell-ayers-distraction-gibbs-obama-didnt-know-he-was-terrorist

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/07/weather-underground-documentary-counters-msm-claim-ayers-merely-benign

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/cnn_obama_ayers_/2008/10/07/138076.html


but the whole package stinks to high heaven


Saul Alinsky

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/08/figures-michelle-obama-quotes-lines.html


The Rev

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/13/video-obamas-pastor-takes-highly-nuanced-approach-to-racial-divisiveness/


Disarming America for the 21st Century

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqhoiK8-Ww


His Good Buddy Tony Rezko

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article


ACORN - The Voter Fraud Organization

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09292008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/os_dangerous_pals_131216.htm

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mzk4MmVkNzA1NGQ2NGRkZjQ2YjNmYjdlODZkMmQ4N2I=


http://www.kmbc.com/politics/10214492/detail.html

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/crl-testimony-acorns-voter-fraud/story.aspx?guid={573B31D0-6AB7-4353-B8E7-91300F4DFF81}&dist=hppr

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/01/more-milwaukee-voter-fraud-name-party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TJpLUOZqo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz5G_E9Hj54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmwBWylw2wU

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/voter_fraud_probe

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjRjYzE0YmQxNzU4MDJjYWE5MjIzMTMxMmNhZWQ1MTA=

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_acorn_smears/2008/10/06/137891.html


Obama Himself

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/its_obamas_character_stupid.html

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmM1NzBkNGI4MGRkZjFmOTg4ZjU3ODVjNmE5ZGM0OGI=

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/obama-funneled-state-money-to-family/

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_fundraising/2008/10/06/137895.html

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/07/characters-count/



And the Douche bag Biden

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg7-2008oct07,0,6074234.column

[California Joe]

K:You obviously do not know that Newt Gingrich is a parent and educator (college history professor). Fail.

Pretty sure he meant ol' Newt banging his third wife (staffer) while he was still married to the second wife and dumped her when she had cancer.

He taught John Edwards how to do it.

[akd]

or on the other hand....Useful idiots = Joe Six Pack.

Useful idiocy is in not particularly tied to education, race or social class, so I don't know why you make that assumption about poor old Joe.

Joe Sixpack isn't all that likely to participate in the "environmental movement," yet there you can find some of the most glaring examples of useful idiocy in action.

[Bia]

Devils advocate post here as I am totaly ignorant to this entire deal...

However... this Ayers... is a free man. He served his time and paid his due.... no?
Hardly a Timmothy McVeigh type it seems.

[Connaught Ranger]

. . . . .

As far as I know, Ayers is no longer attempting to commit acts of terror, therefore the title "ex-terrorist" would be far more appropriate.. . .

How well do you know Mr. Ayers? are you associated with him? ever met the man in person??

Err. . . . . . is that like being an or ex-murderer, or ex-virgin,??:roll:

[akd]

Devils advocate post here as I am totaly ignorant to this entire deal...

However... this Ayers... is a free man. He served his time and paid his due.... no?

No, he did not.

[Bia]

No, he did not.So what... he escaped? Bribed an official? Miracle? Elaborate please.

:D

[hank]

Miracle.

hank