Jörg Haider dead in car accident

[signatory]

Couldn't find any english newslink atm so.....


Jörg Haider (or Joerg Haider; born 26 January 1950, died October 11 2008 in a car accident [1]) was an Austrian politician. He was Governor of Carinthia and Chairman of the "Alliance for the Future of Austria" (Bündnis Zukunft Österreich, BZÖ).


JÖRG HAIDER TOT - Starb bei Verkehrsunfall
zurückDer Kärntner Landeshauptmann und BZÖ-Chef Jörg Haider ist am Samstag in den frühen Morgenstunden in Klagenfurt bei einem Verkehrsunfall ums Leben gekommen.

Haider war nach Angaben der Polizei auf der Rosentaler Straße im Süden der Landeshauptstadt mit seinem Dienstwagen von der Straße abgekommen. Das Auto dürfte sich überschlagen haben, Haider, der allein im Fahrzeug war, erlitt schwerste Verletzungen im Kopf- und Brustbereich, denen er wenig später erlag.


http://news.orf.at/?href=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.orf.at%2Fticker%2F304770.html

[LaoSexMachine]

Never heard of him.

[Silent Reader]

Austria's Haider dies in accident


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45099000/jpg/_45099056_haider_afp226b.jpg Haider died in a car crash, police said

Austrian far-right politician Joerg Haider has been killed in a road accident, police reports say.
Haider died in Carinthia, his political stronghold, early on Saturday, police in Klagenfurt said.
They said he was driving alone when his car came off the road and he suffered severe head and chest injuries.
The 58-year-old was a former leader of the Austrian Freedom Party, and was known for his anti-immigration and anti-EU policies.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7664846.stm

[socom6]

Totally opposed to this guy's policies and rhetoric. But still may he rest in peace.

[signatory]

Who might replace him ?

[alexz]

Austrian far-right leader Haider dies in road accident: report
29 minutes ago

VIENNA (AFP) — Austrian far-right leader Joerg Haider died in a road accident Saturday, APA news agency reported quoting the police.

"The governor of Carinthia and leader of the BZOe (Alliance for Austria's Future) Joerg Haider died after a car accident early Saturday in Klagenfurt", the capital of his home state, the agency said.

Haider, 58, was at the wheel of his official car in the south of Klagenfurt when it veered off the road for unknown reasons.

He suffered serious injuries to his head and chest and died shortly after the accident, APA added.

Haider, Austria's most notorious post-war politician, headed the Alliance for Austria's Future after turning the country's Freedom Party (FPOe) into a political force in the 1980s and 1990s and prompting EU sanctions against Austria in 2000.

Perpetually tanned, athletic and stylish, he transformed from a young firebrand to an experienced politician in the past decade, helping his young BZOe party, only founded in 2005, to its best result in general elections held last month.

Media-savvy he never stayed out of the limelight for long, offering to mediate hostage crises in North Africa with his good friend Seif al-Islam, the son of Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi, and forcibly removing bilingual street signs in Carinthia, which has a strong Slovenian minority.

Haider became involved with the youth wing of the FPOe in his early 20s.

After graduating with a law degree from Vienna University, he moved to southern Carinthia, where he soon became involved in local politics, quickly rising through the ranks of the FPOe until he took over the leadership of the party in 1986.

His run as Carinthia's governor was interrupted in 1991, however, after he made comments praising the Third Reich's employment policies. But he was re-elected in 1999 and 2004.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jnhrKIkZtbp1GqyfoqTMsmwoh1WA

[Fargin]

Totally opposed to this guy's policies and rhetoric. But still may he rest in peace.
x2 RIP

[hank]

Dude, that's really sad. I really like Napolean Dynamite. He was pretty funny in that movie. Only the good die young. Gosh.

hank

[Nobi]

This is strange, Jörg Heider was a great critic of the european union.
Really sad.

RIP JFK.

[Difool]

It seems very strange even more if you look at the politic situation in Austria right now. If it's been a crash with another car... ok! But the reports says his car got of the road. In cold war car accidents were a favorite tool of the intelligence services to get rid of somebody. I don't trust the whole thing. But my guess is that we will never know for sure (like in many other cases).
R.I.P.

[Invisigoth]

Yeah, "the man" whacked the great anti-EU candidate Haider. :cantbeli:Cause there are no people who die from speeding with their over-powered limousines late at night...ever.

Can't really feel sad over the death of someone who made his living by inciting hatred towards others.

Won't be missed.

[Eztyga]

Conspiracy theories anyone? Anyone...?

Ezy

[Loki77]

R.i.p ....

[jokuvaan]

http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135240157142.jpeg

[Japidson]

Wow...ok,...now, who did this !?!

...anyway, RIP Haider

[Kampfbaer]

RIP to a controversial but courageous politician who always dared to speak his mind.

There are at least those, for whom his tragic death will come quiet conveniently....

I hope for a thorough investigation by the police.

[JJHH]

Totally opposed to this guy's policies and rhetoric. But still may he rest in peace.

To which of his 'policies' are you opposed?

R.I.P.

[C.MAXIMUS]

From wiki

Haider made statements that seemed to imply support for some ideas of National Socialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism). His first stint as governor in 1989 ended abruptly when he praised the employment policies of Nazi Germany and was forced to resign (see [5] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/464260.stm)) A few years later, he described World War II concentration camps as "punishment camps" and said the SS were "a part of the German army which should be honoured" (see [6] (http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2000/214/haiderquotes.html)). He also compared the deportation of Jews by the Nazis to the expulsion of Sudeten Germans from Czechoslovakia after World War II (see [7] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/464260.stm)). He associated publicly with Waffen-SS veterans, including attending at least one major remembrance ceremony (see [8] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/oct/02/austria)). On one occasion, he insulted Ariel Muzicant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Muzicant) by saying "I do not understand how someone named Ariel [the name of a popular laundry detergent] can catch so much filth."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider#cite_note-7) Haider's critics claimed the remark was anti-Semitic.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider#cite_note-8)

[lightfire]

Wow...ok,...now, who did this !?!


take an iranian gues... the jooos obviously and teh Mosad.

RIP to the human being, yet it's good he won't be seen in politics anymore. There are successors however..

[zad]

From wiki

Haider made statements that seemed to imply support for some ideas of National Socialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism). His first stint as governor in 1989 ended abruptly when he praised the employment policies of Nazi Germany and was forced to resign (see [5] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/464260.stm)) A few years later, he described World War II concentration camps as "punishment camps" and said the SS were "a part of the German army which should be honoured" (see [6] (http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2000/214/haiderquotes.html)). He also compared the deportation of Jews by the Nazis to the expulsion of Sudeten Germans from Czechoslovakia after World War II (see [7] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/464260.stm)). He associated publicly with Waffen-SS veterans, including attending at least one major remembrance ceremony (see [8] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/oct/02/austria)). On one occasion, he insulted Ariel Muzicant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Muzicant) by saying "I do not understand how someone named Ariel [the name of a popular laundry detergent] can catch so much filth."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider#cite_note-7) Haider's critics claimed the remark was anti-Semitic.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider#cite_note-8)
cough* mossad cough* cough*

[bersaglieri]

Some people don't deserve to rest in peace.

[NathS]

R.I.H. Haidi.

[AROUETLJ]

Easy on the "may he rot in hell sentiments". This is not Hitler we're talking about.

[wildcat]

RIP, shame this Australian died, did his car hit a kangaroo

[Stonewall71]

goes late already

[Invisigoth]

Easy on the "may he rot in hell sentiments". This is not Hitler we're talking about.

Nah just another scumbag who will rot in hell.

[meatrabbit]

Rest in Peace. Sad Day.

[Jirka]

RIP, shame this Australian died, did his car hit a kangaroo

Australia X Austria ... :roll:

[johanness]

Some pics from the accident ...

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-36045.html

[jokuvaan]

A-pillar failed totally, B-pillar somewhat too.

50km/h limit sign but he's been doing at least 2 times that.

[Kitsune]

Haider, Austria's most notorious post-war politician [...]
That kind of phrasing makes one wonder who Austria's most notorious wartime or pre-war politician might have been...Wasn't that a guy with a similiar name?

[Macs.]

That kind of phrasing makes one wonder who Austria's most notorious wartime or pre-war politician might have been...Wasn't that a guy with a similiar name?

Hahahhahaah.

I don't remember, I am not good with politics. Beethoven ?

[Lucky Strike]

R.I.P. Jörg!

Your words of truth will never be forgotten!


Nah just another scumbag who will rot in hell.

STFU *looking at your avatar*

[Erkeengel]

From wiki.....
....said the SS were "a part of the German army which should be honoured"

He associated publicly with Waffen-SS veterans, including attending at least one major remembrance ceremony.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider#cite_note-8)

He may have had his faults, and I certainly don`t agree with all the statements he made, however I believe he raised some questions about the "unified" condemation of SS-veterans in the two parts which I have quoted above.

I`m no military historian and eventhough I know SS did some horrible things maybe not all of them were involved as individuals, maybe some only participated in conventional warfare.
For the ones to which that would apply Heider at least shed light on something important that few other politicians would condemn to easily.

[Invisigoth]

R.I.P. Jörg!

Your words of truth will never be forgotten!

STFU *looking at your avatar*

There's plenty of more right-wing populists for you to drool over and derive your ideology from, no worries.

[Thor]

Damn... :(

Great man. Rest in peace.

He was very corageous and successful in taking on the left-wing establishment and offered a clear and viable alternative to the ongoing cultural suicide.

I hope this proves to be nothing but an accident.

[meatrabbit]

There's plenty of more right-wing populists for you to drool over and derive your ideology from, no worries.

You act like a teenager who doesn't understand much about politics or can handle this topic.

I have some questions:

Are you from Austria and do you know Jörg Haider's party (the BZÖ)?

How old are you? (I'm just interested)

Did you know that he was the governor of carinthia?

[Connaught Ranger]

It seems very strange even more if you look at the politic situation in Austria right now. If it's been a crash with another car... ok! But the reports says his car got of the road. In cold war car accidents were a favorite tool of the intelligence services to get rid of somebody. I don't trust the whole thing. But my guess is that we will never know for sure (like in many other cases).
R.I.P.

Like if a technical team were to inspect the cars mechanics, no sign of tampering would be found:roll:.

Lets put it down to what it was a road accident, and leave the tinfoil hats at homewoot
Looking at the fog in the background, the visibility was probably worse along the road when

the accident happened, especially as there is a river nearby the scene.

[Peris]

RIP


What car was he driving?

[Macs.]

VW Phaeton, a pretty safe car. Seems he was speeding while overtaking a car and then got into the side of the road and crashed into a wall.

[KninGrad]

Damn... :(

Great man. Rest in peace.

He was very corageous and successful in taking on the left-wing establishment and offered a clear and viable alternative to the ongoing cultural suicide.

I hope this proves to be nothing but an accident.

The reason he won a lot more votes this year is because of his open support of Serbs :)

Thor that goes against your principals.

[Evolv5]

Bring out the tin-foil hats people, it's a conspiracy!

May he still RIP.

Oh, forgot to mention; Democracy is a double ended sword.

[Lucky Strike]

There's plenty of more right-wing populists for you to drool over and derive your ideology from, no worries.

Well, if u know so much about austrian politics.

H.C. FTW!

[Loki77]

VW Phaeton, a pretty safe car. Seems he was speeding while overtaking a car and then got into the side of the road and crashed into a wall.

You're right, here. The VW Phaeton isn't a car you die in easily due to modern safety technics.

Maybe, Stasi technique, lurking behind a curve without light, starting engine and drive fast on counter-course with lights turned on full.

[Umbro2914]

There's plenty of more right-wing populists for you to drool over and derive your ideology from, no worries.
wow... way to hate someone over their political views... not cool. so its only sad if liberals / left leaning politicans die... wtf man people are people no difference. all missed the same. RIP

[Snoshi]

wow... way to hate someone over their political views... not cool. so its only sad if liberals / left leaning politicans die... wtf man people are people no difference. all missed the same. RIP

Works for me.. This **** wont get my condolences.

[Macs.]

You're right, here. The VW Phaeton isn't a car you die in easily due to modern safety technics.

Maybe, Stasi technique, lurking behind a curve without light, starting engine and drive fast on counter-course with lights turned on full.

Even in the safest car you can die... Especially looking at the great damage done to the car.

Speculating about him being murdered is simply nonsense. Do you know how many people die every day in car crashes ? I highly doubt there is anything to it.

[Weasel]

Works for me.. This **** wont get my condolences.

Couldn´t agree more.

[Rudolph]

Sure his family would feel good after reading this thread.

[Loki77]

Even in the safest car you can die... Especially looking at the great damage done to the car.

Speculating about him being murdered is simply nonsense. Do you know how many people die every day in car crashes ? I highly doubt there is anything to it.

I suppose one thing that annoys me about this being an "accident", is the timing. Exactly upon his highest success, he dies suddenly in a car crash and is buried. It doesn't make sense. He's too controversial a figure, for better or worse, for such an accident to occur with nothing more to it. How can this be the end?

I was no particular fan of him at all. But it seemed there was a change in the sentiment among many Austrians, and he was the personification of it. Now that personification has died under suspicious circumstances, supposedly coincidentally. As a political player with many enemies, it would not be right not to question this sudden death.

[Weasel]

Where do you see suspicious circumstances?

[Thor]

Works for me.. This **** wont get my condolences.
Say something nice or don't say anything at all. That's how RIP-threads work.


The reason he won a lot more votes this year is because of his open support of Serbs :)

Thor that goes against your principals.
Enough with the paranoia already.

Search for my name and Kosovo and you'll be surprised.

[Snoshi]

Say something nice or don't say anything at all. That's how RIP-threads work.

Since when did this turn into a RIP thread?

[Lancero]

You people are aware that he had just left a party, with booze and so on... Just saying

[Thor]

Since when did this turn into a RIP thread?
Since it's a thread about about his death. Same thing when you report the death of an Israeli soldier, I don't think you would want people to say things like you just said there.

[Snoshi]

Say something nice or don't say anything at all. That's how RIP-threads work.


Enough with the paranoia already.

Search for my name and Kosovo and you'll be surprised.


Since it's a thread about about his death. Same thing when you report the death of an Israeli soldier, I don't think you would want people to say things like you just said there.

This forum is mostly "western" and "pro-USA".. Thats why RIP threads about dead soldiers from these countries are "sacred"... This is a totally different thing, using your logic a thread about Saddam's death should only include "RIP" messages..

[SpecOpsGrandChild]

http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135240157142.jpeg
Holy...
RIP Halder.

[Xaito]

This forum is mostly "western" and "pro-USA".. Thats why RIP threads about dead soldiers from these countries are "sacred"... This is a totally different thing, using your logic a thread about Saddam's death should only include "RIP" messages..

he wasn't Saddam.


Where do you see suspicious circumstances?
unnatural cause of death?

[Snoshi]

he wasn't Saddam.



Nah, he was just a Nazi..

[Weasel]

he wasn't Saddam.

But not one of the good guys.


unnatural cause of death?


Happens every day multiple times. Especially if you think to stand above the law. Speeding and booze.............

[Xaito]

But not one of the good guys.

how come?



Happens every day multiple times. Especially if you think to stand above the law. Speeding and booze.............
sure, but if it happens to somebody with enemies and at a convenient time I think it's not unreasonable to suspect foul play involved...


Nah, he was just a Nazi..
have you even heard of the man before his death or are you just repeating something sensationalist media is reporting?

[Snoshi]

have you even heard of the man before his death or are you just repeating something sensationalist media is reporting?

Ive heard of him before.. And i still stick to my comment..

[Loki77]

Nah, he was just a Nazi..


Who has said that?

[Loki77]

Where do you see suspicious circumstances?


Stange death, for sure. How I said, a political player with many enemies, it would not be right not to question this sudden death.

[Lucky Strike]

But not one of the good guys.

Ask one who lives in Kärnten if he was a bad guy. About nurseryschool money or cheaper gas stations and so on.....

All non austrians should say rip or just stfu.

[Weasel]

how come?

As said he was a Nazi.


sure, but if it happens to somebody with enemies and at a convenient time I think it's not unreasonable to suspect foul play involved...

Yet there is no reason to think it could be more than a car accident.

[eugenlitwin]

Couldn't find any english newslink atm so.....

too right too popular, someone took him out

[Snoshi]

All non austrians should say rip or just stfu.

When did you become a moderator?

[Weasel]

Ask one who lives in Kärnten if he was a bad guy. About nurseryschool money or cheaper gas stations and so on.....

All non austrians should say rip or just stfu.

I´m not allowed to have an opinion about foreign politicians???

[Euroamerican]

Happens every day multiple times. Especially if you think to stand above the law. Speeding and booze.............


VW Phaeton, extremely powerful car for a VW and I can certainly see a simple accident happening with overzealous driving, windy roads, late night timeframe, possible visibility issues.

[Weasel]

VW Phaeton, extremely powerful car for a VW and I can certainly see a simple accident happening with overzealous driving, windy roads, late night timeframe, possible visibility issues.


....and no safety belt?!

[Xaito]

As said he was a Nazi.
that's a serious accusation you have there...
any proof? otherwise it's defamation you know.

[Lucky Strike]

I´m not allowed to have an opinion about foreign politicians???

Sure ure allowed. We're all living in an free world. But i miss the respect in this thread for one who died a view hours ago.

[Herman the II]

I´m not allowed to have an opinion about foreign politicians???


Sure you are, but keep it to yourself. The man died not even 24 hours ago..


-de mortuis nil nisi bonum

[Thor]

This forum is mostly "western" and "pro-USA".. Thats why RIP threads about dead soldiers from these countries are "sacred"... This is a totally different thing, using your logic a thread about Saddam's death should only include "RIP" messages..
I dare to say that this individual were more pro-western than most. Israel is hardly part of the west so I guess that answers my question.

If Putin died I would say the things I liked about him and refrain from the rest. I suggest you with dissenting opinions do the same.

[Weasel]

that's a serious accusation you have there...
any proof? otherwise it's defamation you know.

I´ll take this word back and call him a right wing populist.

[Rudolph]

It should be illegal to call people a "Nazi" or "racist" without some proof and/or reliable verification by a recognized institute or two. There isn’t really much worse you can call a living person in today’s politically correct world – although that reflects the hypocritical mindset of some segments of society, who consider it fair to label all and sundry who share different views a “Nazi” and/or “racist,” sometimes for merely pointing out facts about certain situations.

[NathS]

As said he was a Nazi.


that's a serious accusation you have there...
any proof? otherwise it's defamation you know.

Too hard to read the entire thread or just conveniently ignoring some parts ?


From wiki

Haider made statements that seemed to imply support for some ideas of National Socialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism). His first stint as governor in 1989 ended abruptly when he praised the employment policies of Nazi Germany and was forced to resign (see [5] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/464260.stm)) A few years later, he described World War II concentration camps as "punishment camps" and said the SS were "a part of the German army which should be honoured" (see [6] (http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/2000/214/haiderquotes.html)). He also compared the deportation of Jews by the Nazis to the expulsion of Sudeten Germans from Czechoslovakia after World War II (see [7] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/464260.stm)). He associated publicly with Waffen-SS veterans, including attending at least one major remembrance ceremony (see [8] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/oct/02/austria)). On one occasion, he insulted Ariel Muzicant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Muzicant) by saying "I do not understand how someone named Ariel [the name of a popular laundry detergent] can catch so much filth."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider#cite_note-7) Haider's critics claimed the remark was anti-Semitic.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider#cite_note-8)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider

Sources at the end of the article.

[Invisigoth]

You act like a teenager who doesn't understand much about politics or can handle this topic.

I have some questions:

Are you from Austria and do you know Jörg Haider's party (the BZÖ)?

How old are you? (I'm just interested)

Did you know that he was the governor of carinthia?

No, Yes
None of your business
It's Kaernten, and he was "Landeshauptmann", and how does that matter?

he was an anti-semitic scumbag who made his career of inciting hatred towards others and I am sure he will rot in hell for it.

Anything else?


Say something nice or don't say anything at all. That's how RIP-threads work. A RIP thread? Hope you're joking. What's next, a "RIP thread" for J.M. Le Pen when he bites the dust?

[Connaught Ranger]

Where do you see suspicious circumstances?

He remembers the crash with Dodi & Diana Spencer

que the X-Files:roll:

[tea drinker]

It is strange to see Serb and car accident mentioned together... in spite of the bad roads, bad cars and bad driving there Milosevic still found it necessary to arrange "car accident" hits on opposition leaders.

Back on topuic and I see some damaged temporary barriers, is it possible there was some street repairs or diversions which could have contributed (caused?) this accident??

He was a pretty radical dude, but I can understand why he was popular. Political correctness and a paralysis of opinion, an unwillingness to put your own people first couldcreate this. Throw in some hardship and someone always gets blamed/pigeonholed/scapegoated.
It would be impossible for him to exist if the mainstream politicians done their job properly, i.e. he is a result of their fail.

[Invisigoth]

He remembers the crash with Dodi & Diana Spencer

que the X-Files:roll:

Yeah those two crashes have something in common, don't speed, don't drink, don't die.

Reminds me of the conspiracy nutz when Moellemann (German Politician) decided to jump out of a plane and not open his parachute. Give this thread another 3-4 pages and it was the Mossad who whacked that anti-semite.


He was a pretty radical dude, but I can understand why he was popular. Political correctness and a paralysis of opinion, an unwillingness to put your own people first could create this. Throw in some hardship and someone always gets blamed/pigeonholed/scapegoated.
It would be impossible for him to exist if the mainstream politicians done their job properly, i.e. he is a result of their fail.

Amen to that.

[johanness]

Some people here (and in other threads, too) are very fast with calling people "Nazi".

A Nazi, in my term, is somebody who completly get Darwins "Survival of the fittest" wrong by thinking killing other species (races) is a advantage for the owen species(race).

Even I don't like populists like Haider, he was not a Nazi.

So, RIP

[LineDoggie]

Nah, he was just a Nazi..
Really? you've seen his partei book with number?


Throwing around "Nazi" like a comma against any you disagree with politically devalues those who lives were lost to the actions of TRUE Nazi's


REAL NAZI's
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/hitler.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/himmler.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/heydrich.jpg

SCHMUCK

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/596px-JoergHaider_Sep07.jpg


The First Three responsible for Millions of deaths.....

The other man, for his own, unless you know he murdered anyone?

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Tschüss Haidi!

[Thor]

Too hard to read the entire thread or just conveniently ignoring some parts ?
We all see what we want to see... Labeling someone as a nazi is the liberal media's way of dealing with tough political opponents.

The Haider remarks you quote were not controversial and had more to do with the politics of the post-war era that he grew up in than anything else.

Former Waffen-SS soldiers receive regular soldiers pensions from the German government. There's a reason for that.

Concentration camps were also used as correctional camps, convicted criminals were sent there as well. The different categories of prisoners wore different symbols. Does not imply anything else. The distinction is important since I don't think anyone would like pedophiles to receive the same compensation as holocaust survivors.

The expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe is among the largest forms of ethnic cleansing the world has ever seen.

[Connaught Ranger]

I think the descriptive term some of our posters are searching for is:-

NEO-NAZI.;)

[Connaught Ranger]

We all see what we want to see... Labeling someone as a nazi is the liberal media's way of dealing with tough political opponents.

The Haider remarks you quote were not controversial and had more to do with the politics of the post-war era that he grew up in than anything else.

Former Waffen-SS soldiers receive regular soldiers pensions from the German government. There's a reason for that.

Concentration camps were also used as correctional camps, convicted criminals were sent there as well. The different categories of prisoners wore different symbols. Does not imply anything else. The distinction is important since I don't think anyone would like pedophiles to receive the same compensation as holocaust survivors.

The expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe is among the largest forms of ethnic cleansing the world has ever seen.

You conveniently forgot to mention Nazi Extermination Camps.:roll:

And "Ethnic cleansing" has far more sinister connections to most,

than forcing ethnic German people to migrate to the west post 1945,

as you would have us belive:roll:

[Thor]

You conveniently forgot to mention Nazi Extermination Camps.:roll:
You're right, I "conveniently" "forgot" that. You saw right through my sinister plan, boy you're good.



And "Ethnic cleansing" has far more sinister connections to most,

than forcing ethnic German people to migrate to the west post 1945,
I thought everyone knew the atrocities were on an equally massive scale. There's an old thread on the forum you can look up.

[johanness]

I think the descriptive term some of our posters are searching for is:-

NEO-NAZI.;)

Would be interesting to know your definition of "Neo-Nazi".

BTW, stop your inflatonary use of "smilies"...it could be understand as " I mean it just the other way around..."

[hogdriver]

This **** wont get my condolences.

x1000 <<<<<<<

[tattooman]

RIP. A brave European politician, adn all of you leftists are plenty of hate. Not a nazi but he was against islamization of Europe and massive immigration invasion of our countrys. At least 1/3 of Austrians are nazis like Haider?

No one serious newspaper in Europe call him nazi!

[Weasel]

We all see what we want to see... Labeling someone as a nazi is the liberal media's way of dealing with tough political opponents.

Here we go again. rofl

[LineDoggie]

Here we go again. rofl

Indeed, it's a Diservice to those Killed by Real Nazi's- But a Favorite thing for the left to bandy about.

[Templar@Large]

Conspiracy theories anyone? Anyone...?

Ezy

Is this where the Mossad stories start :cantbeli:

[Umbro2914]

so its obvisous that some do not like him, based on his personality, on his political views w/e... but lableling him a nazi and wishing them to rot in hell once theyve already died is a bit much... call him a radical, call him a racist, but nazi, thats extreme. keep the thread civil. itll prob get closed soon anyway.

[Euroamerican]

I see that there are people posting their feelings on youtube regarding Haider. One guy was quite literate, but came off as sort of a jerk.

I think we should be respectful of the dead but also mindful of their actions and legacies. Regardless, remember that there are children mourning the passing of their Vati.

Hey Lucky Strike:

I'd be interested in your and any other AUSTRIAN observations regarding some of the obituaries on him.

for example, the write-ups in theguardian.co.uk or telegraph.co.uk

[PeterRJG]

that's a serious accusation you have there...
any proof? otherwise it's defamation you know.

Can't defame a dead person in most western jurisdictions, IIRC.