PLDvK 53/59 Jesterka: Looking for orig pics or videos!

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Hello all!:) New to this site!

I found y'all while searching the web for Czech army pics and such and found numerous photographs here.

Well I would like to ask for some help if possible. I am looking for Czech army pictures and videos of the PLDvK 53/59 in service. Old CSLA army videos, pictures, etc or foreign use pictures and videos also.

Reason I ask and am searching is because I own one and have been looking for some literature (besides the manuals I have) and actual pics of it in the feild as well as videos and my searches have been fruitless.:-(

Here are some pics of my truck. It's only got 200km on it and this is back in 2006 when I had it repainted.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZPLDVK1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZPLDVK4.jpg

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Dont know if this is the right forum or not but please move to the appropriate forum if I'm wrong for posting it here. Sorry!

[1911-a1]

Holy ****ing ****! You own a Praga?! This is my favourite vehicle.

[EZFEED]

Sure do as well as a few other MV's too. I have a BMP-1 and UAZ-469 coming soon too. :)

I know there are army videos of it or atr least some with it in it, I ran across this on the CSLA site.
http://www.csla.cz/armada/caf/triranab.jpg

So hopefully someone here will know where I can find in field pics, etc to go along with it.

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By the way, the above film is: VZPOMÍNKA NA TŘI RÁNA V ČESKÉM LESE

[jklv]

Sure do as well as a few other MV's too. I have a BMP-1 and UAZ-469 coming soon too. :)

OMG!
BMP-1 + off-road racing = OMFG!!!

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OMG!
BMP-1 + off-road racing = OMFG!!!

LOL! Yeah maybe, they still have to do some work on the brakes before that could be a possibility. Somethings messed up in one of the drums I think?
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/Videos/?action=view&current=DSCF0543.flv

[1911-a1]

Here are some short vids of the praga...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1fgKq4kp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m929wLTbH7E

[EZFEED]

Thanks!:grin: I will have to check them out when I get home, pesky work computer wont let me open Youtube videos :(

[PG18]

okay.. just a quick q.. how did you you acquire that praga? just curious..p-)

[EZFEED]

Well a certain company that I deal with overseas owed me a weapons favor and cut me a real good deal on it. They pulled this one from out of Czech stores, sandblasted it and put a fresh coat of paint on it (it was mothballed/in storage) and it was mine. It only had a little over 200km when I first got it. I paid $3000 for it plus $2100 shipping. Also have 8 mags, a 500 round crate of live 30X210mm, and some extra goodies.

Some pics. Sorry bout the clutter in my shop:oops:
I have not washed it at the time or latley either so excuse it's dirtiness.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZFEED023-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZFEED024-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZFEED025-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZFEED027-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZFEED026-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZFEED037-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/EZFEED038-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/Gustav%20pics/Picture064.jpg

Back when I picked it up at the port. I had to make 2 trips to pick it up due to some dead battery problems. These were taken during the second trip. I pulled the mags, crate of ammo, both 30mm cannons, sight, tools, etc and brought them home to ensure nothing dissapeared while I was gone. The pics above were taken before I had the turret and guns replaced.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/ATT3797947.jpg

Dad and lil bubba making silly faces at me :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/Picture028.jpg

Stuffs different now though, the guns bark again and I've touched up allot of little imperfections. Also I've been tricking it out with little mods/improvemnts like LED tailights, turns, etc. Adding backup cameras, a right turning camera cause it can get funky making right hand turns in traffic, new custom CD player and sound system;-), electric cooling fans in the engine compartment that shove out the hot air that the aircooled Tatra 912-2 generates so the cabin is so much cooler, extra insulation in the engine compartment, and a few more things. I use it mostly around the farm with the 30mm turret off, the winches are really useful. Also use it to haul feed. When the BMP gets here I am sure I will find some practical farm application for it.....I just havent thought of one yet.:roll:

So does anyone know where I can find original pics of these in use or army videos?
I know there are some out there, I'm just hoping that some Czech members can chime in and perhaps offer a solution?................:|
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/PLDvK/m53-5.jpg

[Abbadon the Despoiler]

I do envy you. Praga is quite rare and good looking vehicle.
pece of early CSLAs history..

here re some pics:

http://i36.tinypic.com/muaf7k.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/mvt8jq.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/34yqq2e.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/vxlxfq.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/339q2ao.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/23upm5h.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/jkyijq.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2cbhqd.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/311rwo2.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2dme7fd.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/4iyb7.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/2a6tdas.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/246ng2u.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/309rlsp.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3241/29682yg8.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/hv70r5.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/zss2vq.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/5lpgkw.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/1zyr0y.jpg

[EZFEED]

Thank you very much Abbadon for your post and pics! :) I must admit though, I have most of these pictures already. Would you happen to know where any old CSLA pics or videos might be?
I have done internet searches using the vehicles name, designation, etc and have found mostly pictures of the Jesterka in military club photographs and a few live fire demonstrations pictures but nothing like this below or the other black and white above in any frequency?????

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/PLDvK/30__mm_PlDvk_vz_53_59_____Sv_t_moto.jpg

I'd like to find something showing the crews, maybe group crew shots, in-field pics, etc. Is there someplace in CZ that could be contacted that would have such images or perhaps old film clips????

[Rumcajs]

http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/1117

http://www.palba.cz/viewtopic.php?t=1650

http://www.jesterka.wz.cz/

http://www.brdm2.estranky.cz/fotoalbum/praga-v3s/30mm-protiletdlovy-dvojkanon-vz_53-59-jesterka

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[EZFEED]

Thank you kindly Rumcajs! :D
I have most of these but this site was new to me http://www.palba.cz/viewtopic.php?t=1650

Have you seen any old CSLA pics of it? Any old black and white photos? :)

[Rumcajs]

Thank you kindly Rumcajs! :D
I have most of these but this site was new to me http://www.palba.cz/viewtopic.php?t=1650

Have you seen any old CSLA pics of it? Any old black and white photos? :)

well, i have some photos in my archive, that wasn´t with me right now, but majority of these photos were posted here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=101350). WP time photos of the Ješterka is not frequented if I know

[EZFEED]

well, i have some photos in my archive, that wasn´t with me right now, but majority of these photos were posted here (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=101350). WP time photos of the Ješterka is not frequented if I know

If you wouldn't mind sharing them I would be most appreciative!:)
I looked through the Warsaw thread and didn't find any? Maybe my computer is not opening them for some reason, I dont know? Some of the postings do come up blank so it may be possible.

I am starting to understand that myself LOL! I can find plenty of BMP, T-34, T-55, PV3S, and OT-64 pictures but only one or two Jesterka pictures. It seems to be quite an elusive vehicle to find documentation for! Is there a place where I could find uploaded copies of old CSLA training films? Maybe a place to purchase such copies????

[Rumcajs]

something different but maybe interesting for you, planned successor for ješterka from the strat of the 1980s - prototype STROP I. There were passive(sic!) radar system PRÚS I or II(similar princip as TAMARA or VĚRA system), laser rangefinder, TV guide system and optical sight.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9352/stropixz5.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6569/stropi1ik5.jpg


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2707/strop01qh3.jpg

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/1862/strop06bm3.jpg
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/6530/strop03tf1.jpg

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5633/strop04ua0.jpg

[EZFEED]

OH..............MY.............GOD!http://www.gunco.net/forums/images/smilies/1/smilie_schreck.gif




I wonder if my guys can find me one......maybe swap my regular BMP-1 for one of these! :)

My eyes say yes but my wallet says no!:-(

[Rumcajs]

OH..............MY.............GOD!http://www.gunco.net/forums/images/smilies/1/smilie_schreck.gif




I wonder if my guys can find me one......maybe swap my regular BMP-1 for one of these! :)

My eyes say yes but my wallet says no!:-(


the wallet of the Ministry of defence at that time said no as well :-)) so just prototype

[EZFEED]

HAHAHAA! Well it is a very neat idea to say the least! :)
I would think they wisley figured it was better to invest into missles than the old technology of AA guns.

[Rumcajs]

HAHAHAA! Well it is a very neat idea to say the least! :)
I would think they wisley figured it was better to invest into missles than the old technology of AA guns.


you are right, so they made this-STROP II prototype from the end of the 1980s, but due to fall of the iron wall it became as only prototype as well


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8852/stropiihz2.jpg



http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/706/stropii1mk6.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4389/stropii02pu4.jpg

http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/791/stropii05zj4.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9633/stropii06sl2.jpg
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/8683/stropii07zs0.jpg

[EZFEED]

Exceptionally nice!!!!!

[Likvid]

There were passive(sic!) radar system PRÚS I or II(similar princip as TAMARA or VĚRA system)
It was actually ordinary RWR (like avery aircraft has), although it's certanly not common equipment for AAA, especially in early 80s.

By the way Strop has successor in slovak Brams.

http://www.kotadef.sk/uk_04_08.html

http://www.kotadef.sk/obrazky/sk_04_08_big.jpg

[Rumcajs]

It was actually ordinary RWR (like avery aircraft has), although it's certanly not common equipment for AAA, especially in early 80s.

By the way Strop has successor in slovak Brams.

http://www.kotadef.sk/uk_04_08.html

http://www.kotadef.sk/obrazky/sk_04_08_big.jpg


of course not

[Likvid]

Surely is. PRUS just detecting radar signal and grants simple info about target (azimuth and basic radar characteristics), exactly like RWRs. It's nothing close to Tamara and Vera, which using far more complex time difference of arrival principle for target tracking.

[EZFEED]

Is that what this little dome with bumps is atop the cannons?
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/6530/strop03tf1.jpg

[EZFEED]

I love your armored T815's!!!!!! You Czechs really do make beautiful vehicles, easy to maintain, pleasantly over-engineered, and usually with great performance.
Every time I look at these DANA looking units I can just hear that V-12 sucking those diesel tanks dry! They must have a hellacious fuel consumption rate, instead of km per liters it'd be liters per km!:roll:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8852/stropiihz2.jpg

[Likvid]

Easy to maintain? You kidding? :) How many Tatras you ever maintaining? Maybe older ones (up-to T148), those are simple and reliable vehicles, however newer ones (T815) are mechanic's nightmare, they're still relatively reliable, but you must usually remove three systems to gain acces to fourth :) Same for personal cars (at least T613).

[EZFEED]

Well I have only really done any INTENSIVE work on a regular PV3S and then this armored version that I have here. I have studied allot of other vehicles like the OT-64, OT-810, OT-65, and the Tatra 813 and have even been able to do a little work on the T-813 and the OT-810 halftrack and and from the little dabbling that I have done I feel at least to me that the Czech engineers that designed the vehicles made an effort to help ease the burden of servicing the moving parts and components. Grease zerks in protected but readily accesible areas, parts that need to be greased that are difficult to reach are given access ports or have a zerk in a accessible area and the grease is piped to the part. Oil drain plugs, air filter access, etc are in places that can be reached without having to unbolt other components to get to them.

I just recently had to do some work to my fuel pump on my Jesterka an it was as simple as removing an interior panel to get to it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/My%20vehicles/Picture034.jpg

I guess its just my opinion but I do like Czech vehicles more than I do U.S. ones and I simply hate British AFV's because some of those I have worked quite a deal on and they have to be the worst mechanics nightmare created.

[Likvid]

PV3S is nothing close to T815, it's very simple vehicle. Almost all Pragas in our unit were quite unreliable (because they're damn old), practically every day at least one stood over the pit, however it was usualy some easy repair.
Don't know about T813, we had not any, but I heard it's something between T148 and T815.
Btw OT810 halftrack is actually german design.

[EZFEED]

PV3S is nothing close to T815, it's very simple vehicle. Almost all Pragas in our unit were quite unreliable (because they're damn old), practically every day at least one stood over the pit, however it was usualy some easy repair.
Don't know about T813, we had not any, but I heard it's something between T148 and T815.
Btw OT810 halftrack is actually german design.

Hey! So you were in the Czech army? What years did you serve in?

Oh yeah that I totally agree with you on, the T815 does look menacing when it comes to servicing it. I have looked at a few technical pictures of it and its big but everythings squashed up and inaccessible. The T813 Kolos is big but everything is laid out and reachable. Here is a pic with the engine cover in the cab off.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/T813_Engine.jpg

Well after serving well past their expected duration mechanical fatigue would be expected in those poor PV3S's. Still it is quite a durable vehicle and when rebuilt I wouldn't be suprised if they didn't last another 50 years. Theres not much to break on them and they are built quite ruggedly but in todays fast moving military the slow PV3S is due for a replacment. That new T810 (I think thats the replacement) offers the road speed and increased payload capacity as well as protection for the crew that the PV3S did not.
No doubt the OT810 was a copy of the German sdkfz251 but that Tatra V-8, improved steering, overhead protection, and improved gearbox make it a whole different and meaner animal than its German predecessor.

[EZFEED]

Just got a reply back from Tiskova a informacni sluzba Ministerstva obrany Ceské republiky and they have looked and found nothing but they did refer me to the Central Military Archive and provided me with contact information so hopefully they will have information to assist me with there.

[EZFEED]

Anyone have anything?

[kremilek_a_vochomurka]

Easy to maintain? You kidding? :) How many Tatras you ever maintaining? Maybe older ones (up-to T148), those are simple and reliable vehicles, however newer ones (T815) are mechanic's nightmare, they're still relatively reliable, but you must usually remove three systems to gain acces to fourth :) Same for personal cars (at least T613).


how many Tatras you driven or had? tell me about your "long time" and "deep" experiencies.... specially about T-815... or be quiet

[EZFEED]

I took some more videos today:)
The reason is because I poured in about 2 quarts of Diesel-Kleen into the starboard fuel tank and man-oh-man the exhaust sure did smell funky!!!!!:|

It was so pungent in odor that it made my eyes tear up, maybe thats good and its just getting the old trash out of the system and the crud off the top of the pistons? Stinky to say the least....

I took these for another forum that i'm on to show the light smoke it made with this cleaning additive in it.

Under no load
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/Videos/?action=view&current=Picture047.flv

With crawler engaged
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/Videos/?action=view&current=Picture048.flv

After running a 3 mile stretch and engine up to temp.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/Videos/?action=view&current=Picture053.flv
(Excuse the shutup, pesky dog barking again)
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/Videos/?action=view&current=Picture049.flv

[EZFEED]

how many Tatras you driven or had? tell me about your "long time" and "deep" experiencies.... specially about T-815... or be quiet

I dunno either?:| I really think they are engineered quite well and if I could afford the fuel they consume.....I would love to have one in a heartbeat!:):)

[EZFEED]

Buuuuuuuump...???????:| Anyone?

[EZFEED]

Dont think the Central Military Archive is helping too much, I have had no response from them yet. :(

[Likvid]

how many Tatras you driven or had? tell me about your "long time" and "deep" experiencies.... specially about T-815... or be quiet
I didn't said anything about "long time" or "deep" experience, so next time keep it (together with that "or be quiet") for yourself please, thank you very much.

I just maintaining them during my mandatory service, that's all. Also we had civilian mechanic with ~20 years of experience and everytime T815 was comming, he always said the same - "last really reliable Tatra is T148, T815 is just too complicated".
Truth is, that T815 is complicated and for mechanic not exactly "user-friendly" vehicle. Also rutine maintainance is more important than for some other vehicles. It's definitely not vehicle for "russian-level" of maintainance (T148 is). I never said T815 is bad, just not flawless. Nothing is flawless after all. And it's certainly very good vehicle for driver, all T-drivers really liked them.

However I undestand that everything even only slightly negative about them, is not much popular for all those excited enthusiasts and nationalist on this forum (just take a look, I don't remember anything about czech equipment or czechs themselves, which wasn't totaly ecstatic, at least nothing said by czechs).

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I didn't said anything about "long time" or "deep" experience, so next time keep it (together with that "or be quiet") for yourself please, thank you very much.

I just maintaining them during my mandatory service, that's all. Also we had civilian mechanic with ~20 years of experience and everytime T815 was comming, he always said the same - "last really reliable Tatra is T148, T815 is just too complicated".
Truth is, that T815 is complicated and for mechanic not exactly "user-friendly" vehicle. Also rutine maintainance is more important than for some other vehicles. It's definitely not vehicle for "russian-level" of maintainance (T148 is). I never said T815 is bad, just not flawless. Nothing is flawless after all. And it's certainly very good vehicle for driver, all T-drivers really liked them.

However I undestand that everything even only slightly negative about them, is not much popular for all those excited enthusiasts and nationalist on this forum (just take a look, I don't remember anything about czech equipment or czechs themselves, which wasn't totaly ecstatic, at least nothing said by czechs).

I hear what you say and I agree that nothing is flawless. And without the correct specialized tools it is difficult to work on.

The comments that I made about Czech vehicles are entirely based on my experience with other countries MV's that I have worked on and not because I am an enthusiast but because I have some experience with them and have found them to be above par compared to many other vehicles of the same era.

Thats just my side of it bud, dont know if anything I said made you feel otherwise :)

[Likvid]

I hear what you say and I agree that nothing is flawless. And without the correct specialized tools it is difficult to work on.

The comments that I made about Czech vehicles are entirely based on my experience with other countries MV's that I have worked on and not because I am an enthusiast but because I have some experience with them and have found them to be above par compared to many other vehicles of the same era.
I don't see any contradiction in your and my comments.

[kremilek_a_vochomurka]

I didn't said anything about "long time" or "deep" experience, so next time keep it (together with that "or be quiet") for yourself please, thank you very much.

I just maintaining them during my mandatory service, that's all. Also we had civilian mechanic with ~20 years of experience and everytime T815 was comming, he always said the same - "last really reliable Tatra is T148, T815 is just too complicated".
Truth is, that T815 is complicated and for mechanic not exactly "user-friendly" vehicle. Also rutine maintainance is more important than for some other vehicles. It's definitely not vehicle for "russian-level" of maintainance (T148 is). I never said T815 is bad, just not flawless. Nothing is flawless after all. And it's certainly very good vehicle for driver, all T-drivers really liked them.

However I undestand that everything even only slightly negative about them, is not much popular for all those excited enthusiasts and nationalist on this forum (just take a look, I don't remember anything about czech equipment or czechs themselves, which wasn't totaly ecstatic, at least nothing said by czechs).


no, já musím říci, že charakteristicky hloupá je argumentace vůči kritice typických tvrzení hodnoty "jedna paní povídala", jak jste to předvedl vy, typicky formulovanou kritikou "vypjatého českého nacionalizmu", přesně ve vašem stylu. Jednoduše přispejte svými vlastními zkušenostmi nebo statistiskými či faktografickými údaji, nebo se neobtěžujte zatěžovat členy tohoto fóra vašimy dohady nebo fakty hodnoty zpáv, jak jsem již řekl, "jedna paní povídala". Trapná a domělá objektivnost vždy zůstává trapnou a domělou, ale především naprosto bezcenou. Mohu tady obšťastňovat příběhy o nepřekonatelnosti nákladních automobilů značky Tatra od mých ruských známých, nicméně mají hodnotu povídaček typu "jedna paní povídala" - tedy mlčím a nikoho tím neobšťastnuji, protože výpovědní hodnota má cenu několika piv v hospodě 4. cenové kategorie, stejně jako vaše "písmenka" zde....

short translate:
It´s unwise to argue in "jedna paní povídala" style just like you and it´s worthless to read your trash´s critique. Just you mistake critique of your bull****s for "some typical Czech nationalism" even when you have actualy no experience with these wehicles. Just it´s embarrassing to read "impartial" conclusions by the man, who can see these trucks "from the fast runnig train" accordint to classic Czech adage...

[Likvid]

Bla, bla, bla. Nacionalismus je na tehle strankach naprosto evidentni. Vzdyt to vypada ze cesi jsou uplny mistri sveta umi vsechno nejlip a vsechno cesky je nejlepsi.
Svoje zkusenosti jsem napsal, plus navrch prihodil zkusenosti myho zkusenejsiho "kolegy". Ze se ti vysledek nelibi je jen a pouze tvuj problem.
Legracni ze mluvis o "JPP", kdyz cela ta uzasna povest Tater je ve svy podstate jedno velky JPP, tim nemam na mysli ze to nemuze byt pravda, jde mi o to ze, "dobra povest" je uz v principu sbirka zkusenosti nekoho jinyho.
Chtel jsem jeste napsat ze mas evidentni problemy s chapanim psanyho textu, ale pak mi doslo, ze to bude asi problem anglictiny (at uz moji, nebo tvoji).
Takze pro poradek: Ano, ja skutecne MAM zkusenosti s udrzbou a opravou Tater a sice z doby svoji zakladni vojensky sluzby a vysledek popisuju vyse. Nejsou to nejaky dramaticky desitky let dlouhy zkusenosti, ale prakticky zkusenosti to jsou.
Dale jsem nikdy nenapsal ze T815 je nespolehliva, jen proste a jednoduse neni tak spolehliva jako starsi Tatry (T148), protoze je prilis slozita a komplikovana, pricemz opravovat ji neni zadny med - obvykle musis vymontovat nekolik systemu aby ses dostal k dalsimu, proste "pristup jak k penezum". Diky tomu vsemu je u ni dost dulezita pravidelna udrzba, jinak se z ni pomalu ale jiste stava hroznej skopek (jednu totalne srackovou jsme v autoparku taky meli).
T815 je pro ridice vynikajici masina, ale pro mechanika, neco jako mala nocni mura (nadsazka samozrejme, ve skutecnosti jsme na nich i tak delali celkem radi, byla to zmena oproti tisicimu serizovani brzdovych klicu, nebo vymene gufer v nabojich kol na PV3S). T148 u nas nikdy nebyla na zavade, jen na pravidelnou udrzbu - vsichni si libovali ze vydrzi fakt vsechno.
Mimochodem vykat mi nemusis, ja ti na Internetu taky vykat nehodlam.

English note: Sorry to all for using czech language, basically I just recapitulate my previous comments, because kremilek has evidently some problems with understanding my poor english (or maybe he is just blinded by nacionalism, I don't know).

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OK, this is my last bump. I was hoping that someone here would have some "OLD" CSLA pics (or any others) that I could print out and put in the display with this truck.

I just got this back from the MCA and have sent off for what they have offered.
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Vojenský ústřední archiv
PRAHA
V Praze dne 20. listopadu 2008
Čj. 2825/2008-2111 Výtisk č. 1

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Patrick.Martin@***********.com


Věc: Photographs and training film about 30mm PLDvK vz. 53/59


The price of a digital reproduction is 150 Kč (Czech crowns) + 19 % VAT. The fee for a broadcasting (the rights) is 1500 Kč + 15 % VAT for Foto. We can do copies of photographs only on scaner to CD-R.

According to čj. 2648/2008-2111 we have 12 photographs 30mm PLDvK vz. 53/59, 3 photos of weapons (gun) and 1 plan of the vehicle.

We have not the training film about 30mm PLDvK vz. 53/59. The trainig film is probably in address: VHÚ Praha (U Památníku 2, 130 05 Praha 3, Česká republika). We do not know of the format films.

Please, let us know your address, we can send the CD together with with your bill to.

Vypracoval: Mgr. Martin DUBÁNEK, tel. +420 973 206 119

Ředitel
plukovník Mgr. Josef ŽIKEŠ
v zastoupení
PhDr. Július BALÁŽ, Csc
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I am now trying to contact the VHU but they are not replying. Do any of you live near the VHU that wouldnt mind taking a message to them or maybe emailing them on my behalf? Supossedly they will make copies of the old army films to CD at cost.

Last call, does anyone here have anything they wouldn't mind sharing????????

Help anyone, I would really appreciate it.....:|

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Crap....forgot to add to that previous post that there is no need to post them here if it is trouble for you to do so or the pic is too large.

Please PM me and I wil send you my email address (or look in my contacts here) so you can email them if that would be better.

Like I said, I would sure appreciate any help that you an give.woot

[hambac]

i would advice you to visit forum.valka.cz (http://forum.valka.cz) and www.pvo.webz.cz (http://www.pvo.webz.cz)

maybe you can find there someone who has what you are looking for

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i would advice you to visit forum.valka.cz (http://forum.valka.cz) and www.pvo.webz.cz (http://www.pvo.webz.cz)

maybe you can find there someone who has what you are looking for

Thanks, I have and did! :-D Unfortuantley they could not assist me in finding the photographs and information I needed.

They were able to provide me with a manual but I have not been able to preview it completley due to my work schedule and being away from my home computer while working out of town. Also for some reason I cannot log on to forum Valka from my present location no doubt due to my companies firewalls so I will have to wait till I return home to touch base with those people on that forum.

I am still searching for these pictures and films and presently noone has been able to provide any leads on this information. :-(