Michael Moore: Blair, you're next

[SeanAshi]

Maverick filmmaker Michael Moore has said he now wants to make a movie about British Prime Minister Tony Blair's role in the Iraq war.

Moore, director of "Fahrenheit 9/11," the documentary critical of US President George Bush and the Iraq war, said on Friday that he now wants to take a closer look at the British leader's role in backing the war in Iraq and sending troops into harm's way.

"I personally hold Blair more responsible for this war in Iraq than I do George Bush, and the reason is Blair knows better. Blair is not an idiot. What is he doing hanging around
this guy?" Moore told ******* in an interview.

"Fahrenheit 9/11," which will hit US cinemas on 25 June, examines links between the Bush family and influential Saudi Arabians, including the family of Usama bin Laden.

The film also contends that Bush used a fear and misinformation to thrust the United States into a war it did not need to fight.

It won the top prize at the Cannes film festival last month.

Staunch supporters

Britain and Blair have been the staunchest supporters of US-led forces in Iraq, but Moore said that in making "Fahrenheit 9/11" he could focus on only one.

He trained his investigative camera on Bush and that, he said, was a hard decision to make.

"I struggled with it because, I think, what I decided is that I need to make a separate film about Blair, at some point here. I need to do something about Blair and Britain."

He likened Blair to an older sibling of Bush's and said that, as a parent, when two children get in trouble, the parent usually questions the older one as to how he or she could let such a problem occur.

Meanwhile, Moore said he has steeled himself for efforts by Bush supporters to discredit his film, which he said is already happening with attacks on his website and in newspapers amid the current campaign for the White House.

He has made no secret of the fact that he does not support Bush, and wants his re-election attempt to fail.

Moore's 'war room'

To counteract efforts challenging "Fahrenheit 9/11," he has hired Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani, two former political advisers to Bill Clinton and Al Gore, to establish a "war room"
that will immediately support any claims made in the movie that come under attack.

The group, he said, will be staffed by six to seven people and will operate 24 hours a day, monitoring newscasts and scanning newspapers, magazines and other publications for
statements made discrediting the movie.

"You come at me with anything, we come back with the truth," Moore said.

Moore, who said he is registered as an independent voter, has yet to throw his support behind presumed Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

He said the movie is not an effort to support Kerry's White House bid, and said that if Kerry were elected, "I'd keep my eye on him, too."

:cantbeli: Moore needs a socail life badly

[Macs.]

Its getting boring.

[Deuterium]

Moore has never met a politician he wouldn't lie about and make a buck or two (million) off of. The truth has never been important to him only the advancement of his personal beliefs, because, he does know best.

[MEGR]

I like Tony Blair. I think that 50 years from now, him, bush, and the others who have commited to the war on terror will be remembered, and people like moore will be ridiculed, and laughed at.

[Fintin]

moore is just trying to step on toes cause he likes to hear his own name...he smells bad...and cant drink worth ****...worst part is the bastard live around here somewhere

[Mark Sman]

The new Leni Riefenstahl.

[Sean85]

[quote]


"Fahrenheit 9/11," which will hit US cinemas on25 June, examines links between the Bush family and influential Saudi Arabians, including the family of Usama bin Laden.




Alright, let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business....

[Fintin]

Alright, let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business....

construction....bin ladens family is in the construction business...i know they have built some well know buildings...i just cant remember which ones

[usa320]

Moore is a moron.

I agree with the previous post. Right now people complain about Bush and the war effort.

But 20 years down the road people will look back and realize how important establishing democracy in Iraq was.

[EvanL]

Moore is a moron.

I agree with the previous post. Right now people complain about Bush and the war effort.

But 20 years down the road people will look back and realize how important establishing democracy in Iraq was.
Yes. But we still havent done that yet now have we?
:cantbeli:

[SeanAshi]

let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business........and your point is?

But we still havent done that yet now have we?
Evan, Rome wasn't built in a day.

[EvanL]

let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business........and your point is?

But we still havent done that yet now have we?
Evan, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Of course not. But Rome was built by Romans.

[Ratamacue]

let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business........and your point is?

But we still havent done that yet now have we?
Evan, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Of course not. But Rome was built by Romans.
Gotta say, that was a pretty decent retort. ;) Not entirely relavent though. :P

[EvanL]

let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business........and your point is?

But we still havent done that yet now have we?
Evan, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Of course not. But Rome was built by Romans.
Gotta say, that was a pretty decent retort. ;) Not entirely relavent though. :P
WHy wont you let me have just this one? Why!!!!!!!!!!!!?
ANd i was so close. ;)

[Fintin]

if i could **** on moores front yard...i would...

[Tane Angle]

That was pretty good, Evan. Maybe one problem we're having is not doing this: When in Rome, do like the Romans (and learn Latin, for crying out loud). p-)

[EvanL]

That was pretty good, Evan. Maybe one problem we're having is not doing this: When in Rome, do like the Romans (and learn Latin, for crying out loud). p-)
Vini Vidi Vici.
I think thats it ;)
Cheers Tane

[Fintin]

That was pretty good, Evan. Maybe one problem we're having is not doing this: When in Rome, do like the Romans (and learn Latin, for crying out loud). p-)
Vini Vidi Vici.
I think thats it ;)
Cheers Tane

MAXIMUS FATUS ANCILA....i know the spellings all off but you should get the point

[Ichhabe]

That was pretty good, Evan. Maybe one problem we're having is not doing this: When in Rome, do like the Romans (and learn Latin, for crying out loud). p-)
Vini Vidi Vici.
I think thats it ;)
Cheers Tane

Veni Vidi Vici

[EvanL]

Non Illegitimus Carber Undum

[Khabbi]

"The SAS can take out Michael Moore in under two minutes, kill everybody there, and be gone before the echo fades." James Earl Jones

[RomanS]

A **** load of slaves built Rome

[ShotOver]

How do you know PerskiiOMON, you wernt there... or were you? *cue the eerie music*
haha, just playin.

Yeah, Moore is a ****, actually that is a compliment to him, since he dosnt have one.. umm.. Moore is a dumb****, ah ha! thats better :D

[Fintin]

How do you know PerskiiOMON, you wernt there... or were you? *cue the eerie music*
haha, just playin.

Yeah, Moore is a ****, actually that is a compliment to him, since he dosnt have one.. umm.. Moore is a dumb****, ah ha! thats better :D


i like the avitar....WORD

[Ichhabe]

A **** load of slaves built Rome

No it wasnt.

[Fintin]

Michael Moore...he built rome...then he made a ****ty film about how it was an opressive state

[ShotOver]

Michael Moore...he built rome...then he made a ****ty film about how it was an opressive state

rofl typical..

[Vance]

let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business........and your point is?

But we still havent done that yet now have we?
Evan, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Of course not. But Rome was built by Romans.
And this is why the Spartans gave up on lending them a hand. p-)

[EvanL]

let's say we look at the facts, Bush is in the Oil Business......bin Laden's family loved America.....or his dad did at least and i believe was also in the Oil business........and your point is?

But we still havent done that yet now have we?
Evan, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Of course not. But Rome was built by Romans.
And this is why the Spartans gave up on lending them a hand. p-)
Spartans were probably too busy bumming little boys. p-)

[Ratamacue]

Spartans were probably too busy bumming little boys. p-)

The Athenians were the ones who really embraced homo******ity. Sparta was a rigid, military-controlled city-state.

[EvanL]

Spartans were probably too busy bumming little boys. p-)

The Athenians were the ones who really embraced homo******ity. Sparta was a rigid, military-controlled city-state.Yes but the Spartan Warriors had a homo****** relationship with their mentors.

[Ratamacue]

Spartans were probably too busy bumming little boys. p-)

The Athenians were the ones who really embraced homo******ity. Sparta was a rigid, military-controlled city-state.Yes but the Spartan Warriors had a homo****** relationship with their mentors.
To my knowledge, this is untrue, but in any case, homo******ity had a vastly diminished role in Sparta as compared to other Greek city-states.

[Fintin]

why the feck are we talking about who had butt *** with who...you two just do your think and call it a day...the point is...moore is just going to make another film that has half truths and cool shots...and uneducated masses everywhere will love it

[SeanAshi]

Michael Moore is the devil.

[Kilgor]

Michael Moore, says "your next" to a family sized pizza and a heart attack.

[Vance]

Michael Moore, says "your next" to a family sized pizza and a heart attack.
rofl

[Dennis G]

Michael Moore's 'The Awful Truth' hits the airwaves with predictable fare

By Patrick Sullivan

ONCE UPON A TIME, not so very long ago, a fellow named William Greider wrote a ferocious little book called Who Will Tell the People: The Betrayal of American Democracy. Greider's thesis was simple: Big corporations exercise growing control over the nation's media, government, and major political parties, leaving our vaunted democratic system well on the way to being deader than the proverbial doornail.

Then Greider got really nasty. Partly to blame for this state of affairs, he argued, were apparently populist organizations such as unions and activist groups, which are increasingly obsessed with stunts, symbolic protests, and media coverage instead of thoughtful strategy and real organizing.

If Greider's book opened the '90s with a bang, then Michael Moore's new half-hour satirical political television show, The Awful Truth, which premieres April 11 at 6 p.m. on the Bravo Network, closes the decade down with a whimper.

Moore is someone you probably know pretty well by now. He began his unorthodox filmmaking career with the guerrilla documentary Roger & Me, the story of his relentless efforts to confront General Motors chairman Roger Smith with the grim fact that GM's plant closures had wreaked social devastation on Moore's hometown of Flint, Mich. The extremely successful film (it was the highest grossing non-concert documentary ever) led to a Moore's first television show, TV Nation, a short-lived satirical series that turned comic stunts and symbolic confrontations with corporate evildoers into a weekly ****-tube event, first on NBC, then on FOX.

Now Moore is back with more of the same in The Awful Truth. In episode one, Moore leads a gaggle of folks dressed as 17th-century Puritans to Ken Starr's house to--you guessed it--show the prosecutor a more affordable way to conduct a witch-hunt. Then the Puritans descend in full costume on the halls of Congress, confronting everyone from Henry Hyde to James Carville.

Neither the astonished politicos nor the many civilian bystanders caught on camera know quite what to make of this costume drama, and really, neither do we. There are undeniably funny moments, such as Moore's close encounter with a sputtering Bob Barr, but ultimately, Moore has nothing to say about Starr and his dubious investigation that hasn't already been said a million times by Democratic Party spinmeisters. We're left feeling that the Starr circus is already so bizarre and absurd that Moore's none-too-subtle efforts at satire pale by comparison.

The second half of the premiere episode is something of an improvement, in part because this time Moore turns his camera on something the media haven't already talked to death. He focuses on Chris Donahue, a man who has made seven years of health-care payments to the Humana HMO only to be denied a life-saving pancreas operation. The Awful Truth swings into action, planning a funeral for Chris to which Humana's CEO is invited. The ensuing confrontation between Moore and Donahue (who could, apparently, literally die at any moment) and a Humana PR flack crackles with compelling outrage.

But the conclusion highlights the show's biggest weakness--Moore himself. Humana relents and Donahue's life is saved, which is wonderful, but not a word is said about a permanent solution to HMO woes. The unspoken thesis seems to be that these sorts of problems would be licked if only there were only a few more versions of Michael Moore and his camera crew about. And Moore seems to take a little too much pleasure in getting the credit for this rescue operation from a wildly applauding studio audience.

Indeed, throughout the show Moore often exhibits a smug self-righteousness that makes him nearly as unlikable as Kenn Starr or James Carville. The biggest danger for The Awful Truth is that the show will be more about its host than about the people he is trying to help. Maybe William Greider is wrong about stunt activism. Maybe populist television will help save American democracy. Or maybe it will just provide another career boost for left-wing entrepreneurs such as Moore.

Of course, that won't exactly fit his image as, in the words of Bravo publicists, a "folk hero for the American people." Those are pretty big shoes to fill, and Moore's show has a long way to go before it, or he, can walk comfortably in them.

[Dennis G]

http://www.hogwild.net/images/Balloons/2003.06.08/michael.moore-madeleine.albright.jpg

[ariweiner]

I like Moore's films. They are very entertaining and hard hitting. And they tend to irritate mindless neocons. ;)

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Moores going to make a film about Blair well the Conservatives are going to love this.

[Tengu]

pfff i'm sure blair is shacking in his boots :roll: . He's too bizzy doing things that matter anyway.

[Gringo]

We don't like Tony Blair anyway.

There is one type of person I hate and that is Politicians.......... Politicians and terrorists.
There is two types of person I hate and they are Terrorists, Polticians and the journalists.
No there are three types of person I hate and they are Terrorists, Politicians, Journalists, and Michael Moore.

[SeanAshi]

We don't like Tony Blair anyway.
I would like to see Liam Gallagher run for office, then watch him kick everyones ass in the House of Commons. :lol:

[GrantT]

Moores going to make a film about Blair well the Conservatives are going to love this.

It's funny how people have forgot that the Conservatives supported the War in Iraq more than Labour and Tony Blair, I don't see Michael Moore making a film about Ian Duncan Smith and the Conservatives during the run up to the war. :roll:

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

It's funny how people have forgot that the Conservatives supported the War in Iraq more than Labour and Tony Blair, I don't see Michael Moore making a film about Ian Duncan Smith and the Conservatives during the run up to the war. :roll:
I dunno Grant I thought the Tories dithered a little on the subject and more recently they seem to have put a bit of distance between their view and Labour's over the war which is probably why they got a better showing in the English council elections. Mind you the present Tories are a dry lot indeed I remember when Major was in charge and what a job he had keeping on top of his party and some of the scandals that ensued, that was real entertainment better than anythong Moore could turn out on the subject of British politics. :D

[Gringo]

WE don't need Michael Moore, to ramble on about our government. We got people who do that already.
-Newspapers
-2DTV
-Bremmer, Bird, and Fortune
-Firefighters

lots more.

I think it's Michael Moore's mission in life to insult everyone.

[MARINO]

Poor Moore to stupid :petting:
:fork: :bash:

[BlackRain]

Of course not. But Rome was built by Romans.


Not to be a wise ass... But Rome was built by the labor of slaves the Roman's owned.



http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/michael_moores_next_gig.jpg


http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/BowlingforFallujah-X.gif

[Roger Rabbit]

I'm going to agree with everything Gringo said.


Blair is not an idiot. What is he doing hanging around
this guy? Thats slandering Bush, as much as i dislike Bush it still annoys me that this prick can say immature crap like this and nobody cares. If Bush stood up and said "don't vote for Kerry, he smells" then you get my point


It won the top prize at the Cannes film festival last month.
Why why why


To counteract efforts challenging "Fahrenheit 9/11," he has hired Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani, two former political advisers to Bill Clinton and Al Gore, to establish a "war room"
that will immediately support any claims made in the movie that come under attack. Alternatively they could accept criticism when/if they are found to be wrong instead of pretendning they are Gods truth



"You come at me with anything, we come back with the truth," Moore said. *cough* bollocks *cough*
Moore, who said he is registered as an independent voter, has yet to throw his support behind presumed Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.


He said the movie is not an effort to support Kerry's White House bid, and said that if Kerry were elected, "I'd keep my eye on him, too." Ok so what do you suggest then? Moore does nothing but damage in my opinion, he offers no alternatives.

To conclude both Blair and Moore are pricks.

[GrantT]

I dunno Grant I thought the Tories dithered a little on the subject and more recently they seem to have put a bit of distance between their view and Labour's over the war

What is their view exactly? They havn't said anything constructive to Labour except for "distance yourself from Bush," but why exactly you would want to distance yourself from your closest ally in a war is truly beyond me, it's opportunism, a trait that is now a common occurrence in Howard's party.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

What is their view exactly? They havn't said anything constructive to Labour except for "distance yourself from Bush," but why exactly you would want to distance yourself from your closest ally in a war is truly beyond me, it's opportunism, a trait that is now a common occurrence in Howard's party.
I don't think that they really had any clear cut views on the invasion of Iraq just a lot of dithering and sniping from the sides, the shortage and supply problems were a godsend to them as it was the only thing they could get their claws into. I must admit Labour also dithered and sniped in the run up to the Falklands war.
The Conservatives are now the third party in the Scottish Parliament, if they lose only two seats then they will be fourth which is possible if the UKIP and the Libs steal a few votes here and there and they have only one Westminster MP these days.

[Gringo]

I'm going to agree with everything Gringo said.

*In Zoidberg voice*

Horay people notice me!

:P

[Roger Rabbit]

Its only cos you have Clint Eastwood(praise be upon him) in your avatar :P

[Gringo]

Its only cos you have Clint Eastwood(praise be upon him) in your avatar :P

yeah, he is one of the best actors ever, and if anyone disagrees, California Joe will be banning yer arse. ;) :P

[GrantT]

I don't think that they really had any clear cut views on the invasion of Iraq

They supported it all the way, they were calling for an invasion before Labour :cantbeli:. As for right now their views are not so clear and, as you say, that's probably why they slipped through the net and won a lot of seats in this years local election (thank god they were third in my city).

[rob]

if i could **** on moores front yard...i would...

how about we organize this. gather up as many people has we can, find out where he lives and take a **** on his lawn.

im serious :|

[seruriermarshal]

Michael Moore just a sh*t !

:fork:

[Locked N Loaded]

Sign me up for the "****-A-THON'. I went to elementary school with this kid named Mike, he was a short, fat, smelly, sweaty red faced kid everyone took lunch money from. I wonder if his last name was Moore?

L n L

[usa320]

Michael Moore, says "your next" to a family sized pizza and a heart attack.

rofl

**** the fat bastard.

I try not to wish death upon people, but if he croaked tommorow i wouldnt be phased in the least.

He borders on that line between free speech and treason.

[Ratamacue]

How exactly has Moore come close to committing treason? He's done nothing to betray this country. He hasn't divulged top-secret operational plans nor has he taken up arms against the US. I don't like Moore one bit, but for Christ's sake, the guy isn't exactly a terrorist plotting the destruction of the United States.

[Sabre]

I don't mind Moore, he passionately believes in what he does and he has successfully exposed many corporate/political causes of inequality and sufferring both inside and outside of the US.

So the guy uses emotive language, he calls Bush and idiot, that's his opinion, let him have it.

It is good to have someone who is so driven to expose issues that large companies and governments pay hordes of lawyers to hide under the rug, he may go over the top sometimes but at least he does raise some important issues.

Get over the satirical attacks and edited speeches, they're just showmanship and there to amuse. You can't, however, say that he doesn't highlight important areas for debate and bring them out into the open, however uncomfortable that may be for some people. As he says, he is an american, he loves america but he wants to see his country improve. How can that be wrong?

[OB Kenobi]

Michael Moore is now also in a video game:

http://www.emogame.com/bushgame.html

[BlackRain]

How exactly has Moore come close to committing treason? He's done nothing to betray this country. He hasn't divulged top-secret operational plans nor has he taken up arms against the US. I don't like Moore one bit, but for Christ's sake, the guy isn't exactly a terrorist plotting the destruction of the United States.

I am not saying he committed treason.

However, there is precedence for treason charges for those who spew anti-American propoganda during war time.

Do you remember a certain American Radio Personality called Iva Ikuko Toguri D'Aquino AKA "Toyko Rose" or "Orphan Ann"?

After World War II, she was convicted of treason and imprisoned, and fined $10,000 for being Imperial Japan's radio propagandist.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

However, there is precedence for treason charges for those who spew anti-American propoganda during war time.

Do you remember a certain American Radio Personality called Iva Ikuko Toguri D'Aquino AKA "Toyko Rose" or "Orphan Ann"?

After World War II, she was convicted of treason and imprisoned, and fined $10,000 for being Imperial Japan's radio propagandist.
And she was of course in the service of a foreign entity not an American based documentary maker who up until this point has not produced anything that comes close to sedition. Oswald Mosley was imprisoned here in the UK because he was publicly rooting for the other side and so far Moore has not been anything other than severely critical of President Bush and his action at home and abroad which seems fair enough unless you have a fondness for totalitarianism.
I think this tract below probably protects Moore and his work produced so far.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[usa320]

Yes, but as we all know Individual rights can be limited to some degree durring a time of war.

(alien and sedition acts, Korematsu vs. United States)

[sethen]

Get him Mikey!!!!!!! :slap: :slap: :slap:

[Deuterium]

However, there is precedence for treason charges for those who spew anti-American propoganda during war time.

Do you remember a certain American Radio Personality called Iva Ikuko Toguri D'Aquino AKA "Toyko Rose" or "Orphan Ann"?

After World War II, she was convicted of treason and imprisoned, and fined $10,000 for being Imperial Japan's radio propagandist.
And she was of course in the service of a foreign entity not an American based documentary maker who up until this point has not produced anything that comes close to sedition. Oswald Mosley was imprisoned here in the UK because he was publicly rooting for the other side and so far Moore has not been anything other than severely critical of President Bush and his action at home and abroad which seems fair enough unless you have a fondness for totalitarianism.
I think this tract below probably protects Moore and his work produced so far.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I guess our biggest concern is that he spreads lies and gets away with them. No one(lefties) seems to listen or care. Becsause he is attacking the opposition he gets a free ride from the Left, America Bashing foreigners(many on this website), and the press. Anyone wanting to see for themselves one of his lies come to my house in Colorado Springs and I'll take you to the Airforce Academy and let you read for yourselves what the plaque says on the B-52.

[ChuckThunder]

This one?

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/planeplaque.htm

[Yosy]

I like Moore's work but I think he should stick to the social issues like he did in "The Big One". I mean, in "Bowling for Columbine" there was that clip of all the different conflicts that the US was involved: news flash - it was the Cold War.
And I also don't like his bashing of US intervention in Kosovo. Thank G-d for the US: our eurocrats were going nowhere.
But I'm really eager to see Fahrenheit 911 - I was always against the intervention in Iraq.

[BlackRain]

And she was of course in the service of a foreign entity not an American based documentary maker who up until this point has not produced anything that comes close to sedition.


The U.S. Sedition Act of 16 May 1918

SECTION 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, . . . or incite insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct . . . the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or . . . shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States . . . or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully . . . urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production . . . or advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....

****less Moore is protected by the Freedom of Speech; however he better be prepared to deal with the consequences of his actions.


These bastards who run our country are a bunch of conniving, thieving, smug pricks who need to be brought down and removed and replaced with a whole new system that we control.
Michael Moore
Dude, Where's My Country?

[pinkeye]

Moores going to make a film about Blair well the Conservatives are going to love this.

has anyone read the scathing critique of blair in a recent (may issue?) issue of the atlantic monthly? the article is devastating...

[pinkeye]

However, there is precedence for treason charges for those who spew anti-American propoganda during war time.

Do you remember a certain American Radio Personality called Iva Ikuko Toguri D'Aquino AKA "Toyko Rose" or "Orphan Ann"?

After World War II, she was convicted of treason and imprisoned, and fined $10,000 for being Imperial Japan's radio propagandist.
And she was of course in the service of a foreign entity not an American based documentary maker who up until this point has not produced anything that comes close to sedition. Oswald Mosley was imprisoned here in the UK because he was publicly rooting for the other side and so far Moore has not been anything other than severely critical of President Bush and his action at home and abroad which seems fair enough unless you have a fondness for totalitarianism.
I think this tract below probably protects Moore and his work produced so far.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

I guess our biggest concern is that he spreads lies and gets away with them. No one(lefties) seems to listen or care. Becsause he is attacking the opposition he gets a free ride from the Left, America Bashing foreigners(many on this website), and the press. Anyone wanting to see for themselves one of his lies come to my house in Colorado Springs and I'll take you to the Airforce Academy and let you read for yourselves what the plaque says on the B-52.

how is moore any different from rush limbaugh, ann coulter, or any other conservative pundit, etc.? hell, our politicians lie to us on a regular basis, so stop being a hypocrite and a cry-baby...

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

The U.S. Sedition Act of 16 May 1918

SECTION 3. Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of its enemies, or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements, . . . or incite insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct . . . the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or . . . shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States . . . or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully . . . urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of production . . . or advocate, teach, defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....

****less Moore is protected by the Freedom of Speech; however he better be prepared to deal with the consequences of his actions.


These bastards who run our country are a bunch of conniving, thieving, smug pricks who need to be brought down and removed and replaced with a whole new system that we control.
Michael Moore
Dude, Where's My Country?
As Moore does tread a fine line as a documenterary maker I am quite sure there is an army of lawyers that will go over his stuff line by line before it hits the shelf's and screens. Some could construe Moore's work to be sedition but I am inclined to think that those same people probably did not hold Roger and Me in high regard either.

replaced with a whole new system that we control
Well every political system needs a wee shake now and again and the "we" that he refers to is the American people at large. I could be wrong but there has been a few voices on the right calling for more control and accountability of government.

[chauncy republicans]

****less Moore is protected by the Freedom of Speech; however he better be prepared to deal with the consequences of his actions.
The same goes for George W Bush.

[BlackRain]

****less Moore is protected by the Freedom of Speech; however he better be prepared to deal with the consequences of his actions.
The same goes for George W Bush.

What do you mean by that remark?

Explain yourself, wiseass.

[chauncy republicans]

****less Moore is protected by the Freedom of Speech; however he better be prepared to deal with the consequences of his actions.
The same goes for George W Bush.

What do you mean by that remark?

Explain yourself, wiseass.
If you dont already know what I mean your probably too dumb to comprehend any explanations.

[Trigger]

****less Moore is protected by the Freedom of Speech; however he better be prepared to deal with the consequences of his actions.
The same goes for George W Bush.

What do you mean by that remark?

Explain yourself, wiseass.
If you dont already know what I mean your probably too dumb to comprehend any explanations.
Actually one must be equally retarded to understand your gibberish.

[BlackRain]

If you dont already know what I mean your probably too dumb to comprehend any explanations.

BTW Wasnt it you who said it's not always about right or left, but right or wrong??

While I am flattered that you took my lessons to heart grasshopper. Your tone implied a threat which is no joking matter.

The President has checks and balances. He can be removed from office by impeachment, voted out, or rewarded with 4 more years.

However, there is no recourse to Mr. Moore. His lies and misstatements give aid and comfort to the free world's enemies. His quotes are already being used in the defense of one of the Bali terrorist's.

While your displeasure with the current administration is duly noted, your rationale is not well thought out.

[chauncy republicans]

While I am flattered that you took my lessons to heart grasshopper. Your tone implied a threat which is no joking matter. Neither is war and national security. :P
BTW I hate Micheal Moore.

[martinexsquaddie]

bring it on mikey the grinning slimey bastard needs taking down a peg or two rofl
can't wait for a blair barbeque
I think michael moore is great whats even better he out sells ann coulter by loads rofl
as the neo cons would say you can't buck the market rofl

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blair's slick in terms of media though, let's see what moore can do.

[chauncy republicans]

I think michael moore is great whats even better he out sells ann coulter by loads rofl
as the neo cons would say you can't buck the market rofl
:lol: