All Blacks thrash Poms

[digrar]

The Rugby test season has started off and the Kiwis have floged England 36 to 3, with the Poms never in the hunt.
That world champions tag is looking a bit shakey :P .
Australia V Scotland tomorrow in Melbourne. Come on the Wallabies woot .

[Gringo]

The Rugby test season has started off and the Kiwis have floged England 36 to 3, with the Poms never in the hunt.
That world champions tag is looking a bit shakey :P .
Australia V Scotland tomorrow in Melbourne. Come on the Wallabies woot .

Don't be calling us Poms, you digger basterd! :P ;)

[Flagg]

I reckon the coaching and lineup changes are all for the better.....and the young ones due to come through in the next few years look bloody impressive.


The best part is the Poms get another pasting in Auckland next week........CAN'T WAIT

I ALSO hope the Wallabies win.....that way when the ABs play them in July at Wellington for the Tri-Nations opener it will be that much sweeter.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/pics/ACFLYE2Mb4AU.JPG

I like the new PR photo op......even if they should have been spending the time on the practice pitch...but I guess they need to sell 2004 AB merchandise

[ShotOver]

Yeah, come on the Wallabies. Can't wait until we play the pom's payback is going to be a bitch :D

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

digrar ya bastard, ya stole me thunder!

[Gringo]

digrar ya bastard, ya stole me thunder!

**** you yer f***ing convict aussie basterds.

[digrar]

digrar ya bastard, ya stole me thunder!

I clicked on your thread and wondered where my post had got to :P
The line out looked good and those two wingers haven't lost any speed. Bring on the tri-nations. woot

[Deuterium]

None of the above..... MotoGP!!!!! Go Hayden!!!(okay I'll wake up now and watch the "Doctor" work his magic).

[ShotOver]

Hi deut! :D

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Gringo wrote,

f*** you yer f***ing convict aussie basterds.

Okay.....see you've got your former colonys mixed up. I'm on the one about two thousand clicks to the right as you look at it.

[Roger Rabbit]

Gringo wrote,

f*** you yer f***ing convict aussie basterds.

Okay.....see you've got your former colonys mixed up. I'm on the one about two thousand clicks to the right as you look at it.

After having so many its difficult to remember where they all are :P

New Zealand right?

[Vance]

I thought the title of this thread said "All blacks crash proms". For a second there I thought Sixgun had returned. :lol:

[Gringo]

Gringo wrote,

f*** you yer f***ing convict aussie basterds.

Okay.....see you've got your former colonys mixed up. I'm on the one about two thousand clicks to the right as you look at it.

I'm not talking about you. i'm talking about the thread starter. ;)

[Fintin]

I thought the title of this thread said "All blacks crash proms". For a second there I thought Sixgun had returned. :lol:

reason 1023 why we thing vancy pants is a dumbass...and by dumbass i mean it in the most loving way possible

[Vance]

I thought the title of this thread said "All blacks crash proms". For a second there I thought Sixgun had returned. :lol:

reason 1023 why we thing vancy pants is a dumbass...and by dumbass i mean it in the most loving way possible
Reason 346675634748489574573583635648659 why tincan should stop talking

[Fintin]

I thought the title of this thread said "All blacks crash proms". For a second there I thought Sixgun had returned. :lol:

reason 1023 why we thing vancy pants is a dumbass...and by dumbass i mean it in the most loving way possible
Reason 346675634748489574573583635648659 why tincan should stop talking


i think ria will disagree...so will rain and pt and well everyone but you and ramblingasshole...oh the company you keep

[Roger Rabbit]

i concur with vance

[Vance]

I thought the title of this thread said "All blacks crash proms". For a second there I thought Sixgun had returned. :lol:

reason 1023 why we thing vancy pants is a dumbass...and by dumbass i mean it in the most loving way possible
Reason 346675634748489574573583635648659 why tincan should stop talking


i think ria will disagree...so will rain and pt and well everyone but you and ramblingasshole...oh the company you keep
I'm sure they will...I'm sure they will man...

[Fintin]

i concur with vance


what did i do to you?

[Vance]

i concur with vance


what did i do to you?
Yeah...I'm still wondering what I did to you Fintin...

[Ratamacue]

I thought the title of this thread said "All blacks crash proms". For a second there I thought Sixgun had returned. :lol:

reason 1023 why we thing vancy pants is a dumbass...and by dumbass i mean it in the most loving way possible
Reason 346675634748489574573583635648659 why tincan should stop talking

I vote that Fintin officially change his name to Tincan.

[Fintin]

Yeah...I'm still wondering what I did to you Fintin...


you didnt get me my cookies....and well im jelious...

[Haiw]

and well im jelious...
That must be the biggest mutilation of the English language I've seen so far... :D

[Roger Rabbit]

I think he means he is a gelatine product. Talking of which is there a difference between gelatin and gelatine?

[Fintin]

and well im jelious...
That must be the biggest mutilation of the English language I've seen so far... :D

i am here to amazemerize you

[digrar]

Southern Hemisphere wins all four with the Wallabies defeating Scotland 35 - 15 and Argentenia defeating Wales 50 - 44.
Australia were a bit rusty and will need to improve a bit before the tri nations. :(

[ShotOver]

Yeah, i was neigh happy with the wallabies performance. Need to toughen up, get their act together.

[Gringo]

Southern Hemisphere wins all four with the Wallabies defeating Scotland 35 - 15 and Argentenia defeating Wales 50 - 44.
Australia were a bit rusty and will need to improve a bit before the tri nations. :(

Oh great now the convict is supporting the f***ing Argies aswell. A lot of this is being overshadowed by Euro 2004 though overhere.

[Flagg]

Haven't you heard?

It's official:

Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa have put together the Counter-Clockwise Axis of Rugby Evil

Moo Hoo Haa Haa

[Gringo]

Haven't you heard?

It's official:

Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa have put together the Counter-Clockwise Axis of Rugby Evil

Moo Hoo Haa Haa

I sholdn't be suprised. Those bloody southerners.

[digrar]

I can trace back to Captain Cook on mums side so I'm not sure if I can be classed as a convict. Then again Dads side is a bit more murkey so maybe the convict call isn't too far off the mark. :P

Not that I was old enough to remember the Falklands, but when I read about it I always go for the Brits, but rugby is different, it's definately Southern verses Northern. So go the Argies.

[Gringo]

I can trace back to Captain Cook on mums side so I'm not sure if I can be classed as a convict. Then again Dads side is a bit more murkey so maybe the convict call isn't too far off the mark. :P

Not that I was old enough to remember the Falklands, but when I read about it I always go for the Brits, but rugby is different, it's definately Southern verses Northern. So go the Argies.

**** the Argy basterds!!!

[Gringo]

I'm calling it even with the Kiwis. Just kicked yer arses at Cricket.

[ShotOver]

Go the Argies woot haha

[Gringo]

Go the Argies woot haha

**** the Argy basterds. Damn greasy haired diego dodos. And Mara-f***ing-dona the worst. He's a damn fat greasy haired diego dodo.

Offence meant towards Argies only. Rest of South America okay.

[anonymous individual]

Interested in Euro at the moment.

[ShotOver]

Yeah, go the Argies :)
haha, just wait gringo, when the wallabies have revenge to you pommy lot for the world cup woot

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Yeah, go the Argies :)
haha, just wait gringo, when the wallabies have revenge to you pommy lot for the world cup woot

shame it won't win you the world cup rofl

[Ria]

Euro hands down. :D

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Euro hands down. :D

except first games ;) seaming as england and portugal both lost their first games we probably won't be kciking you out the competition, I hope you do the dirty on france in the semis.

[Ria]

Euro hands down. :D

except first games ;) seaming as england and portugal both lost their first games we probably won't be kciking you out the competition, I hope you do the dirty on france in the semis.

I hope we do the dirty on Russia Wed. first..then we'll see about France ;)

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Euro hands down. :D

except first games ;) seaming as england and portugal both lost their first games we probably won't be kciking you out the competition, I hope you do the dirty on france in the semis.

I hope we do the dirty on Russia Wed. first..then we'll see about France ;)

russia will be fine they're totally disorganised

[Flagg]

I'm calling it even with the Kiwis. Just kicked yer arses at Cricket.

Cricket? What the F is cricket?

You must be a girl ;)

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I'm calling it even with the Kiwis. Just kicked yer arses at Cricket.

Cricket? What the F is cricket?

You must be a girl ;)

cricket is one of the many, many sports kiwis can't play for ****

[Flagg]

cricket is one of the many, many sports kiwis can't play for ****

"many,many" where'd you come up with that sunshine?

I'll give you cricket...you can have it....

As far as the "many, many" other sports kiwis suck at I didn't realise fat b@stards eating fish and chips and whinging were professional sports?

I thought they still retained their amateur/individual status, but if not..you got me there ;)

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cricket is one of the many, many sports kiwis can't play for ****

"many,many" where'd you come up with that sunshine?

I'll give you cricket...you can have it....

As far as the "many, many" other sports kiwis suck at I didn't realise fat b@stards eating fish and chips and whinging were professional sports?

I thought they still retained their amateur/individual status, but if not..you got me there ;)

where shall I start? do you even have a football team? do you even go to the olympics? give me an example of sports that the Kiwis are good at.

[Vance]

Euro hands down. :D

except first games ;) seaming as england and portugal both lost their first games we probably won't be kciking you out the competition, I hope you do the dirty on france in the semis.

I hope we do the dirty on Russia Wed. first..then we'll see about France ;)
woot

[digrar]

I for one would love to see a team of 6 foot 3, 115 kg Maoris and Islanders running around on a soccer pitch. I can just see the big buggers doing the Haka and the other team running away. :P

[RoBBo]

i'd like to see jake the "musc" from once were warriors and all his friends take to the pitch, now that would make for an interesting game of soccer.

[digrar]

He's only a little short arse.

[RoBBo]

"cook the man some eggs!!"

[Flagg]

where shall I start? do you even have a football team?

Footy? That's Rugby mate ;)

Actually we have a Football/Soccer team....the All Whites.....I believe they achieved their first "bye" into selection for the next World Cup or something or other in the last year....they got smoked by everyone....they simply suck...but they're still "top 40ish" material...even if only by a hair


do you even go to the olympics?

My next door neighbor(3 years ago) was Danyon Loader....double gold medalist in freestyle swimming.

NZ has apparantly won a heap of medals in outdoor water events, like swimming, rowing, sailing.


give me an example of sports that the Kiwis are good at.

Ever hear of the America's Cup?

NZ is the only nation, other than the US, to win twice...I'd think you bloody Poms, what with having ruled the world with the Royal Navy for several centuries, would have won that one by now.....

Like F1?

Ever hear of Bruce McLaren? He's a kiwi

Scott Dixon, who's cleaning up in American Indycars, is a strong contender for an F1 ride...maybe he could be the first to go from Indy to F1, rather than the other way around..supposedly he might get Montoya's seat when he jumps ship..that's the rumour we're getting

Have a look at triathalons.....many of the regular frontrunners are kiwis.

We do have the Tall Blacks...they acquitted themselves quite well last year in the US at the World Basketball Championship....beating some traditionally excellent B'Ball countries...2 of the guys went into the NBA draft...

So NZ does OK for only 4 million peeps.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Flagg wrote,


NZ is the only nation, other than the US, to win twice...I'd think you bloody Poms, what with having ruled the world with the Royal Navy for several centuries, would have won that one by now.....

" Rule britannia, britannia rules the waves........"

Oh wait, no you don't.

Who was the first nation on scene to save your destroyer that ran aground last year on that ahem uncharted rock ahem off Norfolk Island.

[Gringo]

Flagg wrote,


NZ is the only nation, other than the US, to win twice...I'd think you bloody Poms, what with having ruled the world with the Royal Navy for several centuries, would have won that one by now.....

" Rule britannia, britannia rules the waves........"

Oh wait, no you don't.

Who was the first nation on scene to save your destroyer that ran aground last year on that ahem uncharted rock ahem off Norfolk Island.

Are just trying to make trouble, or are you as dumb as you sound?

[Flagg]

Who was the first nation on scene to save your destroyer that ran aground last year on that ahem uncharted rock ahem off Norfolk Island.

http://pages.zdnet.com/hookares/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Damage_to_Hull_a.jpg

HMNZS Te Mana and Endeavour were first vessels on scene I believe....

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Who was the first nation on scene to save your destroyer that ran aground last year on that ahem uncharted rock ahem off Norfolk Island.

http://pages.zdnet.com/hookares/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Damage_to_Hull_a.jpg

HMNZS Te Mana and Endeavour were first vessels on scene I believe....

would HM happen to stand for her majesty (the queen of england)? ah yes that would happen to be her/our ship p-)

[Aussie E]

from www.theaustralian.com.au

All Blacks steamroll world champions
By Claire Harvey
June 14, 2004
New Zealand 36 – England 3
WHEN it does not count, the All Blacks are the world's best rugby team.

On a night so cold that each player was followed by his own little cloud of steam, the New Zealanders humiliated world champions England at Carisbrook on Saturday night with a 36-3 thrashing. Fast, strong and brutal, the All Blacks displayed the kind of heartbreakingly good rugby which eluded them at last year's World Cup, making the English look slow, clumsy and generally hopeless.

Scoring three converted tries and five penalty goals, New Zealand also overcame the famously scary English scrummagers, a collection of individuals who seem more suited to refrigerating food than walking upright. Even through the whiteness of fog and steaming blokes at the stadium known at the "House of Pain" in the far south, the young and inexperienced All Black forwards could be seen forcing the England scrum to stumble backwards and at one point driving so hard that Clive Woodward's men ended up facing the wrong direction.

The world champions, suffering their first defeat by a Tri-Nations side in 13 games, could only manage a single penalty goal.

"Surprised? Yes, we are surprised," All Blacks coach Graham Henry said, smiling with the knowledge that victory meant vindication of the team's post-World Cup sackings of captain, coach and management.

"We went into the game tonight thinking it was going to be a hell of a game. Obviously, we are delighted."

An immense improvement in the All Blacks' lineouts and scrums was the key, Henry said.

"The set-piece performance by the All Blacks was outstanding. The forwards spent every minute of their waking time last week doing lineouts, or thinking about them, and the scrums, too."

Perhaps the English were tired from a long northern hemisphere season, Henry suggested. "These fellows have been playing rugby for a long time," he said. "I think they're starting to feel it's time to have a break, and you can understand that attitude. They'll learn from tonight, they'll get a real kick in the backside."

Woodward said his players, who missed dozens of tackles and dropped the ball regularly, seemed "very slow and lethargic. We just looked tired. We just looked not our usual self. I can't think of any positives to get out of that game, to be perfectly honest. We lost fair and square," Woodward said, adding the team would "take a good look in the mirror" and may make line-up changes before Saturday's second Test in Auckland.

The All Blacks forwards might have set things up, but the backs won the game. To start the match, England kicked the ball straight into the arms of winger Joe Rokocoko, who ran it 20 metres up the field, dodging three tackles in a warning of what was coming.

That was the first English mistake, and there were dozens more, including dropped balls by fullback Josh Lewsey, failed kicks for touch by winger Ben Cohen, punches thrown by second-rower Simon Shaw and attempts to interfere with the All Blacks' lineout jumpers.

The worst misjudgment came when South African referee Jonathan Kaplan awarded the English a penalty only 20 metres out, then reversed his decision after some cheeky backtalk from Cohen, later described as "stupid" by his coach. The All Blacks' tries came from five-eighth Carlos Spencer, Rokocoko and winger Doug Howlett, complementing eight perfect kicks at goal by inside centre Daniel Carter.

England recovered in the second half to prevent any more All Blacks tries, but the English players were not prepared to use tiredness as an excuse. "A result like that hurts. It cuts you deep," outside centre Mike Tindall said. "The title of world champions – it doesn't mean anything any more."

"We got caught napping in the first half," Shaw said.

"There is a lot of talk about fatigue, but it's a mental factor and you've got to get excited when you come down here and play against some of the best players in the world," Lewsey said.

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WHEN it does not count, the All Blacks are the world's best rugby team.

DIDDUMS!!!!

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Gringo wrote,

Are just trying to make trouble, or are you as dumb as you sound?

Calm down mate, its just a bit of harmless sledgeing. I didn't think the british were so sensitive. :petting:

Cut wrote,

would HM happen to stand for her majesty (the queen of england)? ah yes that would happen to be her/our ship

Riiiiight.......and back in the real world, who mans them, tasks them and paid for them?. Thinking like that is what lost you your empire. :P


DIDDUMS!!!!

Right back at ya.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

****e!

[cut]

Gringo wrote,


Cut wrote,

would HM happen to stand for her majesty (the queen of england)? ah yes that would happen to be her/our ship

Riiiiight.......and back in the real world, who mans them, tasks them and paid for them?. Thinking like that is what lost you your empire. :P


DIDDUMS!!!!

Right back at ya.

who's your head of state?

and no, we don't loose matches when it counts

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Cut wrote,

who's your head of state?

You mean the figure head?


and no, we don't loose matches when it counts

Cough COP OUT! cough

[Falco]

I wish I was in Australia with my dad right now to watch the rugby :(

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Cut wrote,

who's your head of state?

You mean the figure head?



no, the name next to HEAD OF STATE next to in a discription of NZ.





and no, we don't loose matches when it counts

Cough COP OUT! cough

no that's what the diddums was about, look back at the post that I made before you took it out of context, which in turn referrs to the australian article

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Cut wrote,

no, the name next to HEAD OF STATE next to in a discription of NZ.


You mean Helen Clark?


no that's what the diddums was about, look back at the post that I made before you took it out of context, which in turn referrs to the australian article

In that case I apologise. However I think that every match counts. If you don't turn up with the right mindset, ie WIN, then why turn up at all?

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Cut wrote,

no, the name next to HEAD OF STATE next to in a discription of NZ.


You mean Helen Clark?


no that's what the diddums was about, look back at the post that I made before you took it out of context, which in turn referrs to the australian article

In that case I apologise. However I think that every match counts. If you don't turn up with the right mindset, ie WIN, then why turn up at all?

of course we want to win all the time, but winning the biggest things is best, you can't win all the time so make sure you win at the right time



Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of New Zealand, and is represented as head of state by the Governor General

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Cut wrote,

of course we want to win all the time, but winning the biggest things is best, you can't win all the time so make sure you win at the right time

Cough cop out cough


Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of New Zealand, and is represented as head of state by the Governor General

As I said. Figure head. She has no say in our affairs. Hasn't had for some time and is slowly but surely being phased out. As it is we're pretty close to doing away with the Union Jack on our national flag. Its only a matter of time till we become a republic.

[cut]

Cut wrote,

of course we want to win all the time, but winning the biggest things is best, you can't win all the time so make sure you win at the right time

Cough cop out cough


what? you'd rather win now than in the world cup?




Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of New Zealand, and is represented as head of state by the Governor General

As I said. Figure head. She has no say in our affairs. Hasn't had for some time and is slowly but surely being phased out. As it is we're pretty close to doing away with the Union Jack on our national flag. Its only a matter of time till we become a republic.

she has no say in our affairs she's still the one that represents Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis at the D-day memorials, a job she does rather well, and you still rather disown her?

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Cut wrote,

what? you'd rather win now than in the world cup?

Wiining is winning.


she has no say in our affairs she's still the one that represents Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis at the D-day memorials, a job she does rather well, and you still rather disown her?

Well i'll put it this way. The kids grow up. They leave home and strike out on their own. They still remember their heritage and where they came from but they mature and do they're own thing. The parents don't allways approve and it might seem a little ungrateful but at the end of the day the kids got to make their own way.

Lunch time.

[WolverineBlue]

where shall I start? do you even have a football team?

Footy? That's Rugby mate ;)

Actually we have a Football/Soccer team....the All Whites.....I believe they achieved their first "bye" into selection for the next World Cup or something or other in the last year....they got smoked by everyone....they simply suck...but they're still "top 40ish" material...even if only by a hair


do you even go to the olympics?

My next door neighbor(3 years ago) was Danyon Loader....double gold medalist in freestyle swimming.

NZ has apparantly won a heap of medals in outdoor water events, like swimming, rowing, sailing.


give me an example of sports that the Kiwis are good at.

Ever hear of the America's Cup?

NZ is the only nation, other than the US, to win twice...I'd think you bloody Poms, what with having ruled the world with the Royal Navy for several centuries, would have won that one by now.....

Like F1?

Ever hear of Bruce McLaren? He's a kiwi

Scott Dixon, who's cleaning up in American Indycars, is a strong contender for an F1 ride...maybe he could be the first to go from Indy to F1, rather than the other way around..supposedly he might get Montoya's seat when he jumps ship..that's the rumour we're getting

Have a look at triathalons.....many of the regular frontrunners are kiwis.

We do have the Tall Blacks...they acquitted themselves quite well last year in the US at the World Basketball Championship....beating some traditionally excellent B'Ball countries...2 of the guys went into the NBA draft...

So NZ does OK for only 4 million peeps.

Point of clarification: Montoya won the Indy 500 the year before he moved to Formula One.

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Point of clarification: Montoya won the Indy 500 the year before he moved to Formula One.

yeah and jenson button won formula ford or formula 3000 and go-karting championships, they all start somewhere. F1 only takes the best drivers in the world so they have to proove themselves somewhere. Or where you suggeating that he's gone down a notch after winning Indy 500?

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Cut wrote,

what? you'd rather win now than in the world cup?

Wiining is winning.



fair enough, I'd rather lose a friendly then against australia in the world cup like you guys did


she has no say in our affairs she's still the one that represents Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis at the D-day memorials, a job she does rather well, and you still rather disown her?



Well i'll put it this way. The kids grow up. They leave home and strike out on their own. They still remember their heritage and where they came from but they mature and do they're own thing. The parents don't allways approve and it might seem a little ungrateful but at the end of the day the kids got to make their own way.

Lunch time.

the US is the kid that made it's own way

NZ is still living at home at the age of 30 ;)

[mocking_loudly_died]

Gawd, if the kiwis cut their ties with the motherland, that means Australia has to baby sit the wee little country (didn't you chaps kill off your air force?).

Being a republic sounds all nice and dandy but one day it might bite us all in the arse.

Monarchists unite. p-)

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Cut wrote,

fair enough, I'd rather lose a friendly then against australia in the world cup like you guys did

True that. But we beat you last weekend and this saturday will be no different no matter what excuses are put forward.


NZ is still living at home at the age of 30

You make it sound like Britain is the only thing keeping us going, how do you figure that?. You don't provide for our defence, you don't prop our economy up, about all you do these days is provide targetry for our forward pack. Its interesting but from the way you write its almost as if you think we should be grateful.....

Mocking wrote,

Gawd, if the kiwis cut their ties with the motherland, that means Australia has to baby sit the wee little country (didn't you chaps kill off your air force?).


Not necessary when we have that big, fat, juicy target sitting to our north ready to soak up any **** coming our way. :lol:

[WolverineBlue]

Point of clarification: Montoya won the Indy 500 the year before he moved to Formula One.

yeah and jenson button won formula ford or formula 3000 and go-karting championships, they all start somewhere. F1 only takes the best drivers in the world so they have to proove themselves somewhere. Or where you suggeating that he's gone down a notch after winning Indy 500?

Absolutely not -- F1 is the pinnacle of racing.

[RoBBo]

lol correction monster truck madness is the pinnacle of motorsport :D

[digrar]

I'm voting for V8 supercars being the pinacle of motor sport, and Ford drivers being better than Holden drivers.

The Kiwi's don't need a Airforce, as long as they can show up with some Infantry and Arty if/when the s#*t hits the fan we will be happy.

[Flagg]

Point of clarification: Montoya won the Indy 500 the year before he moved to Formula One.

Whoops..missed that one


F1 only takes the best drivers in the world so they have to proove themselves somewhere. Or where you suggeating that he's gone down a notch after winning Indy 500?

NO...what I was suggesting is that it's MORE difficult to move from Indy to F1, than F1 to Indy.....history speaks for itself......Andretti, Fittipaldi,Mansell, et cetera all kicked ass.....in the other direction we've had Indy's Michael Andretti(son of Mario) single handedly knock out an entire F1 starting grid in 93.

And Scott Dixon has the best chance to break the bad mojo.



the US is the kid that made it's own way

NZ is still living at home at the age of 30

I guess that makes the UK the mentally incontenent grandparent ;)


I'm voting for V8 supercars being the pinacle of motor sport, and Ford drivers being better than Holden drivers.

It's like "watchable Nascar"......as it actually requires drivers to turn in BOTH directions ;)


The Kiwi's don't need a Airforce, as long as they can show up with some Infantry and Arty if/when the s#*t hits the fan we will be happy.


The Aussie "air support" is much appreciated.....and needed :roll:

[oldsoak]

Tut tut - a lot of unsporting behaviour off field it seems :) . Going back to the Rugby, we got beat soundly because we were not good enough - simple. I'm bit of a die hard England supporter ( then the Scots, Welsh, Irish, Kiwis and Aussies - and in that order ) and fair doos, we were crap and deserved panning. We want to realise that no bugger has a right to expect to win in rugby, sort our lives out and get back into the game. As for some of the name calling - always concious of the fact that the Aussies and Kiwis picked up the tab for the UK in quite a few punch ups as recently as the Falklands. So well played, you deserved it.

[Gringo]

Point of clarification: Montoya won the Indy 500 the year before he moved to Formula One.

yeah and jenson button won formula ford or formula 3000 and go-karting championships, they all start somewhere. F1 only takes the best drivers in the world so they have to proove themselves somewhere. Or where you suggeating that he's gone down a notch after winning Indy 500?

Absolutely not -- F1 is the pinnacle of racing.

F1 really isn't a race anymore, since that bloody cheating kraut keeps winning over and over again. Because he has the better car.

It's a not a sport of driving skills anymore, it's which can come up with the better car.

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Point of clarification: Montoya won the Indy 500 the year before he moved to Formula One.

yeah and jenson button won formula ford or formula 3000 and go-karting championships, they all start somewhere. F1 only takes the best drivers in the world so they have to proove themselves somewhere. Or where you suggeating that he's gone down a notch after winning Indy 500?

Absolutely not -- F1 is the pinnacle of racing.

forgive me for being so rash

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"GringoF1 really isn't a race anymore, since that bloody cheating kraut keeps winning over and over again. Because he has the better car.

It's a not a sport of driving skills anymore, it's which can come up with the better car.

Surely that has always been part and parcel of motor sport and is why they have the constructors championship as well as the drivers championship.

[Gringo]

"GringoF1 really isn't a race anymore, since that bloody cheating kraut keeps winning over and over again. Because he has the better car.

It's a not a sport of driving skills anymore, it's which can come up with the better car.

Surely that has always been part and parcel of motor sport and is why they have the constructors championship as well as the drivers championship.

It was a race for both Constructors AND drivers. Now it's just constructors. A real drivers championship would be where all the drivers used the same car. But of course that wouldn't happen.

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"GringoF1 really isn't a race anymore, since that bloody cheating kraut keeps winning over and over again. Because he has the better car.

It's a not a sport of driving skills anymore, it's which can come up with the better car.

Surely that has always been part and parcel of motor sport and is why they have the constructors championship as well as the drivers championship.

It was a race for both Constructors AND drivers. Now it's just constructors. A real drivers championship would be where all the drivers used the same car. But of course that wouldn't happen.

I still think it's a race, just that it's a race for second place. let schumacher have his records, then he'll piss off to into retirement sooner.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Oldsoak wrote,

Tut tut - a lot of unsporting behaviour off field it seems . Going back to the Rugby, we got beat soundly because we were not good enough - simple. I'm bit of a die hard England supporter ( then the Scots, Welsh, Irish, Kiwis and Aussies - and in that order ) and fair doos, we were crap and deserved panning. We want to realise that no bugger has a right to expect to win in rugby, sort our lives out and get back into the game. As for some of the name calling - always concious of the fact that the Aussies and Kiwis picked up the tab for the UK in quite a few punch ups as recently as the Falklands. So well played, you deserved it.

Thank you.