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Fage
10-22-2008, 04:49 AM
Russia could buy back Alaska or perhaps Canada could pick up sunny Florida
By ERIC MARGOLIS, TORONTO SUN
19th October 2008

At the end of Second World War the British Empire still ruled nearly a quarter of the globe. But the war bankrupted Britain. Its once mighty empire quickly collapsed and the United States inherited much of the British Imperium.

Six decades later the United States is close to bankruptcy thanks to a national orgy of borrowing, the replacement of manufacturing by financial manipulation, ruinous foreign wars and a government whose stunning incompetence and arrant stupidity was exceeded only by its reckless imperial arrogance.

The financial panic now gripping the planet, and the ignominious collapse of Wall Street, showed the American colossus had feet of clay. Washington's furious printing of untold billions of new dollars to prop up its sinking economy, finance this year's $1 trillion deficit and pay debts may unleash a storm of dangerous inflation.

The world balance of power is already shifting. For example, Pakistan's new president, Asif Zardari, went cap in hand this week to China, seeking up to $6 billion US in emergency loans. Pakistan is on the verge of bankruptcy and may shortly default on its debt.

But Pakistan's patron, the United States, which has been renting that nation's politicians and army for $1.2 billion per annum to support the occupation of Afghanistan, can't spare any cash for Pakistan. So Pakistan is turning to China, which has $1.9 trillion in foreign exchange reserves -- the world's largest. The U.S.-led occupation of Afghanistan is likely to be adversely affected by Washington's new pauper status.

Bankrupt people, companies and nations have to sell assets to meet their debt obligations. China and Japan alone hold over $1.5 trillion of U.S. government securities (IOUs).

Their nervous central bankers now want real assets rather than more paper.

So there is talk of America's Asian creditors converting their IOUs into shares in U.S. corporations and property.

Sovereign wealth funds from the Arab oil states and Singapore may soon demand chunks of such assets.

In the 19th century European imperial powers used to force loans on China and local rulers in the Mideast and Latin America. When the locals could not pay off their debts, parts of their territory were seized. Russia was forced to sell Alaska to the U.S. for next to nothing when it could not repay its debts.

China's coast was carved up by the British, French, Germans, Russians, Americans and Japanese. These imperial foreclosures created the trading"concessions" of Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tsingtao, Tianjin, and Port Arthur.

Now, it's payback time for China. How ironic that the Chinese Communists have ended up with a so far sound financial system while the Wall Street bandit capitalists have gone bust.

To help pay its monster debts, I suggest Washington consider selling Louisiana back to France. Canada, whose banking system remains solid thanks to being what Americans called "boring and stodgy," ought to pick up Florida for a song. Canadians have a manifest destiny for sunshine.
Mexico will want to buy Texas, Arizona and New Mexico. Russia, of course, will buy back Alaska and Washington State. China will purchase California; San Francisco will become "New Beijing."

Japan will buy up Washington State, Oregon, Montana, and Hawaii. Holland will repossess New York State, and Germany will buy Pennsylvania and Minnesota.

JUST LIKE BRITAIN

Pakistan's move into China's financial embrace is a harbinger of things to come. Unless the U.S. quickly repairs its economy, its world power could slip away as quickly as post-war Britain's, leaving China, Japan, Russia, the EU and India as the world's new super powers.

This may not be so awful. All power, as Lord Acton famously said, corrupts; and absolute power corrupts absolutely. As the world's sole superpower, the U.S. under the Bush administration became totally corrupted by imperial hubris, financial fraud, lust for resources and greed.

A world with more balanced, diffused power may be preferable. But what if cash-rich China steps into America's imperial boots much sooner than anyone expected?

Source:http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/eric_margolis/2008/10/19/7134511-sun.html

Shadowstorm
10-22-2008, 04:55 AM
This what I think of this article.
http://msp153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/bradly2795/lol_wut.jpg

Blue_0
10-22-2008, 06:01 AM
Or the US could just print money and pay its depts off with that.

Calanen
10-22-2008, 06:20 AM
Or the US could just print money and pay its depts off with that.

That has worked in the past - but wont work anymore.

Actually selling Alaska is not such a bad idea. You'd end up being debt free, and who'd miss it?

panzrman
10-22-2008, 06:34 AM
Naaawwwwww, keep Alaska. My recommendation would be Washington DC, but then, might backfire and we actually end up paying someone to take it.

PanzerMaster
10-22-2008, 06:46 AM
I lost some 2000 euros last month thanks to worldwide stock exchanges collapsings.

USA, the source of the problem, can repay me with land... (but I am sure that I will end to own the restroom of some redneck's trailer... mortaged 2 times already!)

szr
10-22-2008, 06:58 AM
Actually selling Alaska is not such a bad idea. You'd end up being debt free, and who'd miss it?I'd rather we pawn off some of our overseas holdings, first.

Starting with Australia.


http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5553/watermelonlolwut1f576cbul5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

(this is OT&H, right?)

Supplanter
10-22-2008, 07:05 AM
Source:http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/eric_margolis/2008/10/19/7134511-sun.html
Canada, whose banking system remains solid thanks to being what Americans called "boring and stodgy," ought to pick up Florida for a song. ... Canadians have a manifest destiny for sunshine.

While we do want/like sunshine, why the f*ck would we want Florida? Turks and Caicos sounds better :)

Thumpsquid
10-22-2008, 07:05 AM
If they sell Alaska to the Russians, do they get Sarah Palin as part of the deal?

vryhpyammoadded
10-22-2008, 09:22 AM
The bankruptcy sale has already begun. Foreigners have been scarffing up cheap, foreclosed Florida acreage since about three months ago and the sale looks to be just getting warmed up.

Polygon
10-22-2008, 09:33 AM
If they sell Alaska to the Russians, do they get Sarah Palin as part of the deal?

That'd be nice, definitely wouldn't be missing her. I guess if we did sell Alaska back to the Russians, she could finally claim to have "foreign policy experience" with Russian forces occupying her former state.

2Sheds_Jackson
10-22-2008, 09:57 AM
The problem with a yard sale is that people have to have money in order to buy things. As bad as things are for the US, the potential buyers aren't in any better shape. I'd keep a close eye on China- I think that things could turn very sour very quickly there.

ZeroZen
10-22-2008, 10:47 AM
I think China will sell Shanghai and Hongkong including Free Tibet. It would be nice. Also sell Chongqing too,

perdurabo
10-22-2008, 11:22 AM
I'd buy Lwow area from Ukraine even with their orange revolutionists....

ocean
10-22-2008, 11:33 AM
The other idea would be instead of selling, renting them out for long term say 100 years to potential investors.

CG51
10-22-2008, 11:58 AM
The bankruptcy sale has already begun. Foreigners have been scarffing up cheap, foreclosed Florida acreage since about three months ago and the sale looks to be just getting warmed up.

Poor China; just like Japan in the 80's snapping up real estate all over the U.S. By the 90's they found out how worthless it was.

HAHAHAHA, you fools! Welcome to America.

ar15
10-22-2008, 03:00 PM
Retarded article.

CG51
10-22-2008, 03:04 PM
Retarded article.

What do you expect from fage the chicom. Scanning the web for anything anti-American.

Gat0r
10-22-2008, 05:25 PM
The truth hurts, we are flat out broke, we've committed the same mistakes that every world power this world has seen before us has done, overextending our military empire around the world, out of control spending that is destorying our currency and financial system, the Hubris is strong, you know we're America the invinsible we'll dominate forever! As much as I despise Bush, he's not the only one responsible for this, it started long ago.

PALADIN
10-22-2008, 05:26 PM
What do you expect from fage the chicom. Scanning the web for anything anti-American.

Fage is a Chicom?

PVJ
10-22-2008, 05:33 PM
Why not sell America back to the Native Americans, theyv got lots of money from casino revenues that they can buy back the land.

szr
10-22-2008, 05:34 PM
The truth hurts, we are flat out broke, we've committed the same mistakes that every world power this world has seen before us has done, overextending our military empire around the world, out of control spending that is destorying our currency and financial system, the Hubris is strong, you know we're America the invinsible we'll dominate forever! As much as I despise Bush, he's not the only one responsible for this, it started long ago.http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6294/funnypicturesemoemu219eog7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


No seriously, have a drink or something.

vryhpyammoadded
10-22-2008, 06:42 PM
Poor China; just like Japan in the 80's snapping up real estate all over the U.S. By the 90's they found out how worthless it was.

HAHAHAHA, you fools! Welcome to America.
Did you ever see the old 80's Far Side cartoon with ma and pa America reading the front page headlines "Jap's have just bought Pearl Harbor"!

Yep, China like Japan will get stung by economic overdrive success too, we all do. :)

Mynameischarlie
10-22-2008, 06:46 PM
The financial crisis affects all nations. That's globalization. Some countries will suffer more, other less. The Chinese, Russian, Arabian governments will do alot not to let the crisis spill over.

ed316
10-22-2008, 07:29 PM
Pakistan's move into China's financial embrace is a harbinger of things to come. Unless the U.S. quickly repairs its economy, its world power could slip away as quickly as post-war Britain's, leaving China, Japan, Russia, the EU and India as the world's new super powers.

This may not be so awful. All power, as Lord Acton famously said, corrupts; and absolute power corrupts absolutely. As the world's sole superpower, the U.S. under the Bush administration became totally corrupted by imperial hubris, financial fraud, lust for resources and greed.

Love how the writer makes it out that only America does this. Bet he jerks off to Chompsky.

LineDoggie
10-22-2008, 08:36 PM
I'll sell them Red Hook, and Manhatten real cheap, but you gotta take the indigenous population with it.


As a bonus, you get Bensonhurst as well.

BloodyTalon
10-22-2008, 08:49 PM
Fage is a Chicom?
Yep. Think of him like J-10 except with lenovo's blind nationism and a dash of mental retardation.

Gat0r
10-22-2008, 09:33 PM
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6294/funnypicturesemoemu219eog7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


No seriously, have a drink or something.

If our government and the federal reserve got out of the way and let the free market make the proper corrections, and if spending and tax cuts were implemented i'd feel a lot better about the situation, but they are making every mistake that will lead to devastating consequences

Deurzakker
10-22-2008, 10:26 PM
According to that writer Washingtons State should be sold to the Russians and Japanese, that would be a scam would it not?

Rictor
10-22-2008, 11:18 PM
I'd keep a close eye on China- I think that things could turn very sour very quickly there.

You guys have been hoping for that for about two decades, so far in vain.

brainplay
10-23-2008, 10:10 AM
First two paragraphs should have summed up the point this guy was trying to get across. Forcing myself through this article I facepalmed so many times I've got a bruise on my forehead.