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snapper
06-13-2004, 01:57 PM
Germany's V1 Rocket (http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/662)

Uncle Chô
06-13-2004, 02:10 PM
Germany's V1 Rocket
Tttttt...

The V1 was not a rocket but a pilotless pulsejet engined flying bomb.

The V2 was indeed a rocket ;)

101st__and_1/2
06-13-2004, 02:34 PM
very nice

snapper
06-13-2004, 02:35 PM
That may be however I have refered to it as it was commonly known, especially by the people it fell on during WW2. I dont think that V1 pilotless pulsejet engined flying bomb rolls off the tongue quite as well.
Oh and thanks for the information, I really wasnt aware of that. p-)

Tengu
06-13-2004, 03:03 PM
meh, those things bombed my town. Almost killed a familymember.

Uncle Chô
06-13-2004, 03:12 PM
That may be however I have refered to it as it was commonly now known, especially by the people it fell on during WW2 they called it " Buzz bomb " or " Duddle Bug " because of the strange pulse jet sound before it stopped an fell... I dont think that V1 pilotless pulsejet engined flying bomb rolls off the tongue quite as well. True but let's be precised on this Forum ;)

Very nice
I hope your comment is about the picture :D

10 492 fired to England, 11 892 to Belgium. Thousands of civil prisonners died in the underground plants in France and Germany, about 5 500 deaths and 16 000 people injured by the V1s in the UK only :roll:

snapper
06-13-2004, 03:31 PM
Duddle Bug

Well if its precision your after then it was infact "Doodle bug" :D , only foolin matey. Thanks for the information. How come you know so much about the V1 ro... er what you said. :oops:

He219
06-13-2004, 03:41 PM
The Fi-103 (V1 (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/v1.html)) was an Air-To-Surface/Surface-To-Surface cruise missile. It was referred to as the 'Buzz Bomb' precicely because of the noise created by the unique pulse-jet engine.

The V2 (http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/gal114/SpaceRace/sec200/sec210.htm) is the first Ballistic missile.

p-)

Shadow
06-13-2004, 03:47 PM
The Fi-103 (V1 (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/v1.html)) was an Air-To-Surface/Surface-To-Surface cruise missile. It was referred to as the 'Buzz Bomb' precicely because of the noise created by the unique pulse-jet engine.

The V2 (http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/gal114/SpaceRace/sec200/sec210.htm) is the first Ballistic missile.

p-)

Yup and the V2 was able to launch into space.

Uncle Chô
06-13-2004, 04:13 PM
How come you know so much about the V1 ro... er what you said. :oops:
Because I am a modeler and I am building a V-1 assembly line from scratch in 1/72 scale ;)

I have been spending endless hours studying books and websites to gather accurate information :roll:

http://62.210.160.29/ImgAlbums2/Images2/31103/UnviBCbQE1D1711200316545522297.jpg

http://62.210.160.29/ImgAlbums2/Images2/31103/UnviBCbQE1D1711200316545365264.jpg

http://62.210.160.29/ImgAlbums2/Images2/31103/UnviBCbQE1D17112003165456731503.jpg

http://62.210.160.29/ImgAlbums2/Images2/31103/UnviBCbQE1D17112003165455598677.jpg

http://62.210.160.29/ImgAlbums2/Images2/31103/UnviBCbQE1D1711200316545886387.jpg

I am about to finish the painting (airbrush) but still not finished plenty of small details to figure out :roll:

You could listen to the infamous "Buzz" sound below :

http://www.earthstation1.com/pgs/wwii/dos-v1_sound.wav.html

He219
06-13-2004, 04:26 PM
Yup and the V2 was able to launch into space.

Not quite. The V2 just reached the border with 'space' at an altitude of 83 to 93 km. This brought it just through the Mesosphere and within the Ionosphere ...
;)

However, Verner Von Braun did develop the famous 'Saturn' Rocket that brought the first man to the Moon.


Speaking of the V1 'cruise missile', here is another interesting one ...

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0370.jpg
http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugkorper/hs_294.jpg

The Hs 294 (http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugkorper/hs293_294_295.htm) Air-Launched Televison Guided Torpedo Glide Bomb, powered by Walter HWK liquid bi-propellant rocket engines immediately after launch. It flew the primary distance over the water and just before reaching a shipping target would jettison the wings and rockets, striking below the water line and out of reach of Close in Weapons systems.

Saranof
06-13-2004, 04:29 PM
The krauts sure had a load of futuristic gear back then

He219
06-13-2004, 04:35 PM
It really is amazing. From the bi-plane to stealthy jet fighters, flying wings and Ballistic Missiles, the period between 1930 and 1945 saw the most radical innovations within aerospace.

snapper
06-13-2004, 04:56 PM
Hey Uncle Chô freakin nice work Bro. I dont have the patience for that kinda thing. Good on ya buddy ;)

Falco
06-13-2004, 05:15 PM
Very nice model. I would love to see the finished product

Uncle Chô
06-13-2004, 05:22 PM
Very nice model. I would love to see the finished product
Me too! :lol: :lol:

snapper
06-13-2004, 05:30 PM
Very nice model. I would love to see the finished product
Me too! :lol: :lol:

LOL :D

Falco
06-13-2004, 05:44 PM
How many hours have you put into your model up to now?

snapper
06-14-2004, 03:47 AM
More hours than I would have the patience for I suspect. :roll:

J-10
06-14-2004, 05:57 AM
Speaking of the V1 'cruise missile', here is another interesting one ...

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0370.jpg
http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugkorper/hs_294.jpg

The Hs 294 (http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugkorper/hs293_294_295.htm) Air-Launched Televison Guided Torpedo Glide Bomb, powered by Walter HWK liquid bi-propellant rocket engines immediately after launch. It flew the primary distance over the water and just before reaching a shipping target would jettison the wings and rockets, striking below the water line and out of reach of Close in Weapons systems.

Wow, it's a anti-ship cruise missile! Germany had a lot of advanced weapons in WWII, and their ideas were very modern. :D

Shadow
06-14-2004, 09:11 AM
Yup and the V2 was able to launch into space.

Not quite. The V2 just reached the border with 'space' at an altitude of 83 to 93 km. This brought it just through the Mesosphere and within the Ionosphere ...
;)

However, Verner Von Braun did develop the famous 'Saturn' Rocket that brought the first man to the Moon.


Speaking of the V1 'cruise missile', here is another interesting one ...

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0370.jpg
http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugkorper/hs_294.jpg

The Hs 294 (http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugkorper/hs293_294_295.htm) Air-Launched Televison Guided Torpedo Glide Bomb, powered by Walter HWK liquid bi-propellant rocket engines immediately after launch. It flew the primary distance over the water and just before reaching a shipping target would jettison the wings and rockets, striking below the water line and out of reach of Close in Weapons systems.

I read 100km on another page.

snapper
06-16-2004, 08:28 AM
I read 100km on another page.

Yeah me too :backhand:

Miles Teg
06-18-2004, 06:11 AM
If you want to show the V2 in their place, i've got a diorama idea for you :

http://www.lacoupole.com/images-site/photos/38.jpg

http://www.lacoupole.com/images-site/photos/exterieure_accueil.jpg

http://www.lacoupole.com/en/musee/default_dedie.asp?tu=ind

big_les
06-18-2004, 07:11 AM
We have an original V-1 displayed on a section of launch rail here at Duxford (Imperial War Museum air branch) and a replica outside with a full length launch ramp. I spoke to a guy who was injured by one exploding near him as a child. There is also another Fi-103 and a V-2 at our London site.

Uncle Chô
06-18-2004, 08:37 AM
If you want to show the V2 in their place, i've got a diorama idea for you :
Monsieur est trop bon :D

Merci ;)

platform389
06-18-2004, 08:07 PM
If you want to show the V2 in their place, i've got a diorama idea for you :

http://www.lacoupole.com/images-site/photos/38.jpg

http://www.lacoupole.com/images-site/photos/exterieure_accueil.jpg

http://www.lacoupole.com/en/musee/default_dedie.asp?tu=ind

Google found some additional information about this fascinating place.

http://www.v2rocket.com/start/deployment/wizernes.html


By November of 1943, construction had been started on the dome, along with the tunnel excavation at the base of the quarry. Although aware in Nov. 1943 of the existence of an abnormal building site close to Saint-Omer, the Allies were slow in targeting the bunker for air raids. Conventional bombing of the site began in March of 1944 with little effectiveness, the dome-protected underground work was already completed. More than 3000 tons of bombs were dropped, damaging the close villages and upsetting the roads to the building site. But, the CUPOLA remained intact. Work on the project continued at a fast pace even through 229 air-raid warnings.

On April 27, 1944, 16 U.S. Army Air Corp planes dropped (128) one-thousand-pound bombs on the target of Wizernes with good results, losing one aircraft in the action. On June 22, 1944, the U.S. 303rd flew a morning mission to Wizernes with a small force of 14 B-17s. This Wizernes mission was ineffective due to a heavy cloud cover. After a two minute bomb run, the bombs fell short in a wooded area east of the target and one B-17 was shot down by anti-aircraft guns. In total, sixteen raids were carried out against Wizernes by Allied air forces. Allied pilots reported heavy, accurate flak batteries in the bunker area. The damage inflicted on the area was destruction of the railway, communications and road networks near the bunker. Although the bunker was not destroyed by the bombings, it was logistically unusable.

It was not until July 17, 1944 that an attack by Allied bombers proved somewhat successful. RAF Lancaster bombers rained down the new 6-ton "Earthquake" Tallboy bombs. Although the dome remained intact, the RAF bombers dropped their bombs all around the dome. Three of the Tallboys exploded next to the tunnels, one burst just under the dome, and another burst in the mouth of one tunnel. The whole hillside collapsed, undermining the dome support, and covering up the two rocket vertical entry ways.

General Walter Dornberger reported that although the contruction itself remained largely intact, the earth surrounding the bunker was so "churned up" that the site must be abandoned. It was believed that the dome would soon collapse also. This was probably an exaggeration based on Dornberger's own opinion of the dome- Dornberger had always been against fixed launching sites for he feared Allied bombing would hamper V2 operations. The Todt engineers disputed this finding, but the Allied invasion of France and dwindling supplies prevented any further construction. At the end of July, 1944, Hitler ordered the site abandoned, along with the Roquetoire guidance bunker. Soon the V2 would be deployed exclusively on mobile launchers in Belgium, Holland and Germany.

Below is what the British used to stop work there.

http://www.v2rocket.com/start/deployment/earthquake_bomb.jpg

Looks like a must visit place for those interested in the final stages of WW2.

big_les
06-18-2004, 09:44 PM
A good old Lanc carrying a 22000lb Grand Slam deep penetration bomb I think.