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10-30-2008, 02:25 PM
New Armoured Vehicles for Afghanistan

(Source: UK Ministry of Defence; issued Oct. 29, 2008)

Defence Secretary John Hutton has announced a package worth £700 million today, which will pay for some 700 new armoured vehicles to further improve the safety and protection of troops on operations in Afghanistan.

The Protected Mobility Package announced by Mr Hutton today, Wednesday 29 October 2008, includes provision of £350 million for 400 brand new armoured support trucks which will be used to accompany patrols and carry essential supplies such as water and ammunition.

The three distinct categories of Tactical Support Vehicles (TSV) are:

Wolfhound: TSV (Heavy):
Heavy armoured support trucks - supporting and re-supplying Mastiffs in the highest threat areas. These vehicles will have the highest levels of mine blast protection;

Husky: TSV (Medium):
Medium armoured support trucks - carrying out the support roles in lower threat areas and where heavy vehicles, like Mastiff, cannot be used;

Coyote: TSV (Light):
Light armoured support vehicles - supporting Jackals across the harsh terrain of Afghanistan.

Other vehicles which will be paid for out of the £700 million include:

-- Over 100 brand new cross-country vehicles called Warthog which, with greater protection levels, will replace Vikings in Afghanistan, and
-- Over 100 more Jackals, the extremely agile all-terrain vehicles which include high-levels of off-road mobility and firepower.

£96 million from the package will also be used to develop a specialist route clearance system known as Talisman, which will provide a new high-tech way of dealing with the IED (Improvised Explosive Device) threat. Among the Talisman vehicles to be developed will be the Buffalo mine-protected vehicle and the Engineer Excavator.

Announcing the new vehicles, Defence Secretary John Hutton said:

"Getting the right vehicles and equipment to our Armed Forces has always been an absolute priority. Today's multi-million pound package shows that we are responding to new and changing threats on the ground and will provide our serving personnel with the highest levels of protection and mobility that technology will allow.

"I have seen first-hand the difference our Mastiff and Jackals are already making to our troops in Afghanistan; the arrival of 700 new vehicles will improve even further their ability to move cross-country and provide vital support with the utmost protection to our existing vehicle fleets."

In addition, new vehicles, and upgrades and modifications were also announced today. 30 base Cougar vehicles will be purchased, a mixture of 4x4s and 6x6s, which will be modified to boost our training fleets for Mastiff and Ridgback.

The new Panther vehicle has been modified and upgraded to prepare for its arrival in Afghanistan and a new variant of the Snatch has been developed, known as the Snatch-Vixen, which, especially designed for Afghanistan, has been given extra power and payload which enhances the mobility and protection of the vehicle.

Today's announcement builds on previous measures that are already making a difference in Iraq and Afghanistan including the introduction of the hugely successful Mastiff with its superior levels of protection and the Jackal with its impressive firepower and speed, allowing troops to get off the tracks and roads and strike hard at the enemy from all directions.

Mastiff's smaller brother Ridgback, due to arrive on operations early in the new year, will also add to these measures, delivering protection levels close to that of the Mastiff in a package that gives better access to urban areas.

£500 million of the funding for the Protected Mobility Package has been allocated from the Treasury Reserve while Defence will fund a part of the package in acknowledgement of the longer term benefit to core defence capability these vehicles offer beyond our current commitments.



£700m for New Vehicles for Operations


(Source: UK Ministry of Defence; issued Oct. 29, 2008)



Defence Secretary John Hutton announced today over £700M for an extra 700 vehicles to further improve the safety and protection of our troops on operations in Afghanistan.

The £700M announcement included;

-- £350M for over 400 new armoured support trucks to accompany our existing patrols carrying the essential supplies such as water and ammunition. The three distinct categories of Tactical Support Vehicles (TSV) are:

*WOLFHOUND: TSV (Heavy): Heavy armoured support trucks - Supporting and re-supplying our Mastiffs in the highest threat areas. These vehicles will have the highest levels of mine blast protection;
*HUSKY: TSV (Medium): Medium armoured support trucks – Carrying out the support roles in lower threat areas and where heavy vehicles, like Mastiff, cannot be used;
*COYOTE: TSV (Light): Light armoured support vehicles – supporting our go-anywhere Jackals across the harsh terrain of Afghanistan;
*WARTHOG: Over 100 brand new cross-country vehicles with greater protection levels, replacing Vikings in Afghanistan;
*Over 100 more Jackals, extremely agile all-terrain vehicles, with high-levels of off-road mobility and firepower.
*Development of a specialist route clearance system including the Buffalo mine protected vehicle, at a cost of £96M, giving us a new high- tech way of dealing with the IED threat.

Secretary of State for Defence John Hutton said:

“Getting the right vehicles and equipment to our Armed Forces has always been an absolute priority. Today’s multi million pound package shows that we are responding to new and changing threats on the ground and will provide our serving personnel with the highest levels of protection and mobility that technology will allow.

“I have seen first-hand the difference our Mastiff and Jackals are already making to our troops in Afghanistan; the arrival of 700 new vehicles will improve even further their ability to move cross-country and provide vital support with the utmost protection to our existing vehicle fleets.”

In addition, new vehicles, upgrades and modifications were also announced today:

-- Buying 30 base Cougar vehicles, a mixture of 4x4 and 6x6 which will be modified to boost our training fleets for Mastiff and Ridgback;

-- Panther – offering excellent mobility and impressive levels of protection for its size. The new vehicle has been modified and upgraded to prepare for its arrival in Afghanistan;

-- Snatch-Vixen – a new variant specially designed for Afghanistan. The vehicle has been given extra power and payload which enhances the mobility and protection of the vehicle.

Today’s announcement, builds on previous measures that are already making a difference in Iraq and Afghanistan - the hugely successful Mastiff with its superior levels of protection, the Jackal with its impressive firepower, speed allowing troops to get off the tracks and roads and strike hard at the enemy from all directions.

Mastiff’s smaller brother – Ridgback – due to arrive on operations early in the new year will add to this and deliver protection levels close to that of Mastiff in a package that gives better access to urban areas, increasing the survivability of troops in these roles.


BACKGROUND NOTES

1. A WMS was laid in the house on 29 October 2008.

2. WOLFHOUND TSV(H) and COYOTE TSV(L) will come as one variant; a utility flatbed vehicle used to transport combat supplies. HUSKY TSV(M) will come as 3 variants; utility, ambulance and command post.

3. Snatch-Vixen - Snatch’s running gear, chassis, engine, and other automotive components have been modified to give the vehicle more power and the ability to carry a greater load.

4. Panther – a recent Defence procurement offering excellent mobility and impressive levels of protection for its size. Panther will be modified with a few theatre-specific alterations in order to field it to Afghanistan. With a full communications capability, it will offer a capable addition to the options available in certain roles

5. Alongside Mastiff and Ridgback, increasing the Jackal fleet, procuring Tactical Support Vehicles (TSVs) and the development of a Viking replacement will bring the total number of new protected vehicles we are procuring for operations to over 1200.

Link (http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?session=dae.42459684.1225390217.ZKNHI38AAAEAAD8HIGcAAAAr&cat=3&prod=99249&modele=release)



I'm guessing the "Warthog" is this ? Hagglunds Designs New Viking (http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3776471)

sw1paul
10-30-2008, 03:32 PM
About time !! There were a few raised eyebrows when the Brits arrived in Helmand with Wimiks and Snatch wagons in 2006 ! Namely from our US and Canadian friends already operating in the South.

In a Paragraph,The way the present UK government has fought wars on the cheap has been nothing short of disgusting ! Hence our name with our American friends,The borrowing Brits.

Red-Phos
10-30-2008, 04:03 PM
Bloody hell new!!!!

C.MAXIMUS
10-30-2008, 06:35 PM
I hope it is new money, not out of Navy and AF.

BTW, any comments in why there are no Challengers in Astan?

goose36
10-30-2008, 07:36 PM
i thought they were looking at the aussie bushmaster's?

MARK.TIGGER
10-30-2008, 08:40 PM
The money should have been spent years ago replacing Saxon/FV432/CVRT/Snatch with a suitable vehicle that could be deployed worldwide. So hopefully the Army will get away from the Light forces concept and back to a more balanced force. Of is more money being wasted on theatre spefic vehicles!

Red-Phos
10-30-2008, 09:01 PM
I still think the WMIK is a good idea for FSG or MSG roles.There are no Challengers there because its not Practical.

Eoin666
10-30-2008, 09:31 PM
BTW, any comments in why there are no Challengers in Astan?

Yeah that's been asked many times, and the simple answer is there's no requirement for them, if there was they'd be there

Eggy
10-31-2008, 05:00 AM
i thought they were looking at the aussie bushmaster's?
Only a small number were bought for use in Iraq, I've read it might have been a purchase for SF.

joshfox0
10-31-2008, 06:59 AM
is the goverment feeling alright? have they checked their temperature (and subsequently been given some Ibru and a tubey grip by the med center?)

It'd be nice if this stuff is all done as quick as possible but i'll only believe it when i see it/ hear about it from the guys out there.

a_very_ex_STAB
10-31-2008, 07:06 AM
This is probably just a 're-announcement' of money that has already been allocated/spent (for the purposes of 'spin') :roll:

Am I cynical about the inglorious ship of fools that makes up the British Government? Hell yes! :)

Red-Phos
10-31-2008, 08:06 AM
Only a small number were bought for use in Iraq, I've read it might have been a purchase for SF.
Yes the SAS and SFSG are driving round Iraq in them right now.

DPM_Sheep
10-31-2008, 12:34 PM
I don't think selection is finalized yet but the rumours are saying that the tactical support vehicles are likely to be Bushmaster/Copperhead.

The "Warthog" (They really couldn't resist, could they?) Viking replacement is either going to be Viking Mk2 or /the singaporean Bronco, though there may be other options..

Contracts slated for award around the end of december.

Red-Phos
10-31-2008, 01:26 PM
My Money is on the Bushmaster i have a lot of pics of them being used in Iraq by errrr Them.

MARK.TIGGER
10-31-2008, 07:58 PM
I wonder in 10-15yrs will we be criticizing thease theatre spefic vehicles when they are redeployed in another conflict zone. Just like Snatch has been designed for Northern Ireland and used in Bosnia, Kosovo,Iraq and Afghanistan.

Royal
11-01-2008, 04:40 AM
Snatch Vixen does not sound good :(

armchairpundit
11-01-2008, 06:15 PM
Royal, you do not enjoy vixen snatch ? p-)

Related news:


Hagglunds Designs New Viking

By andrew chuter
Published: 17 Oct 12:21 EDT (16:21 GMT)

LONDON - A new version of the Viking tracked armored vehicle offering enhanced protection to crews is on the drawing board at BAE System Hagglunds in a bid to beat competition from Singapore aiming to unseat the Swedish company as the supplier of all-terrain vehicles to the British military.

A spokeswoman for the Sweden-based subsidiary of BAE said the company hopes to have a prototype Viking Mk2 running early next year with the vehicle available for delivery in the summer.

Earlier this year, the British announced a competition for between 47 and 212 vehicles to replace earlier Hagglunds BV206s in their fleet. A contract is scheduled to be awarded at the end of next year as part of the MoD's standard equipment procurement process.

Singapore Technologies Kinetics' Bronco vehicle is also a strong contender. The Singaporean and Swedish vehicles are tracked and consist of two linked armored units.


The new Swedish vehicle would offer protection up to Stanag 2 level and have a better payload than the current Viking used by British forces in Afghanistan.


The spokeswoman declined to give details of the development at this stage.


The Viking has been widely used by the Royal Marines and other

British forces fighting Taliban insurgents in southern Afghanistan since 2006. The vehicles, purchased originally by the British for use in the snow and ice of countries like Norway, have been given improved protection for operations in Afghanistan. They were purchased via the urgent operational requirements (UOR) procurement system.


Despite that, the vulnerability of the vehicle's underside to mine strikes has resulted in a number of fatalities.


In addition, the MoD is in discussions with the Treasury for UOR purchases to help rectify the problem on existing vehicles, as well as purchase additional better protected vehicles.


The Bronco is also a contender for the UOR purchase of new vehicles, industry executives said.


The MoD said it was talking "in relation to the provision of additional vehicles to support current operations under the UOR process."

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3776471&c=ASI&s=TOP