Death Threats Made to Muslim Artist in UK

[Calanen]

Muslim Artist's Exhibit Spurs Death Threats, Violence at London Gallery

Muslim artist, Sarah Maple has been criticized in the past for how she depicts her religion in her work, but her latest exhibition in London has triggered a new wave of intimidation, death threats and even violence.

Since putting the 23-year-old’s exhibit on display on Oct. 16, SaLon gallery in Notting Hill has received a string of violent emails and phone calls about the artist and her family, according to the British Broadcasting Company.

Maple’s exhibit is filled with controversial self-portraits of the artist wearing a headscarf posing in provocative ways, the BBC reported. In one painting she also bares a breast.

But gallery owners believe it was a painting of the artist in a headscarf holding a pig that triggered the violence, according to the BBC.
Ejaz Aslam of the Muslim Cultural Center told the BBC, the contrast of those two images is “highly offensive” to Muslims.

Maple told the network, “I just want to make valid points about East and West cultures and whether we can combine the two successfully.”

The gallery itself was also targeted when woman wearing a burka threatened gallery workers earlier this week, and again when the glass front of the gallery was smashed on Tuesday, the London Telegraph reported. SaLon has since enlisted 24-hour police protection.

The gallery plans to keep the exhibit until its scheduled end on Nov. 16, the BBC reported.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445824,00.html

[Well so what - I mean, every time anyone takes the p*** out of christianity or catholicism on TV or in art, Catholics and Christians make death threats against the artists right? What? They dont? You must be an Islamophobe then. Cal]

[Weasel]

Death threats are too much but if you are provoking you have to face the response.

You reap what you sow.

[Rudolph]

^
Provocation makes one show your true colours.

[Weasel]

True.

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[Supplanter]

Death threats are too much but if you are provoking you have to face the response.
No "but" needed, death threats are too much. How about people just don't look at the photos if they find them offensive. Some People need to grow up or harden the f*ck up :bash:

Here are the paintings and pictures in question. Could be NSFW for people/countries that are afraid of a ****y or "controversial" paintings and pictures.
http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=&menuActive=artist#

[Weasel]

Some People need to grow up or harden the f*ck up :bash:


True again. Gaining popularity and making money by insulting other people is really cheap.

[Rudolph]

True again. Gaining popularity and making money by insulting other people is really cheap.

She is depicting her religion, in case you missed that part. ;) She's obviously had the benefit of living amongst Westerners, which has helped her gain indepedent thought and shed a more narrow-minded and primitive mindset. When the Danish cartoons made headlines, a local Muslim put the cartoons on his shop's walls so that other Muslums can come look at the what the fuss was about. That's a progressive, modern Muslim culture we have in South Africa.

And she's damn hot!!

[Calanen]

Death threats are too much but if you are provoking you have to face the response.

You reap what you sow.

I love this doublespeak from Lefties. If these were Neonazis making death threats because someone was doing an exhibit about Communist posters, you'd be screaming from the rooftops about the outrageousness of it.

But because its within your PC mindset, you can say 'Oh you reap what you sow..don't offend the multicultists'

In a free society - you live free. You say what you like, you paint what you like, you write what you like - and should not have to pander to one particular group that makes death threats whenever there is something happening they dont like, and usually something very innocuous. Democracy is about dissenting opinions, and different ideas. And it cannot work if one group says, repeatedly, we will kill anyone who has a dissenting opinion to us. And it shows your feeblemindedness that you would support such a thing.

In essence you are saying, think the RIGHT things - or die.

There are lots of things I dont like, but I dont make death threats against anyone - because I'm not a barbarian.

[Supplanter]

Gaining popularity and making money by insulting other people is really cheap.

Of course it's cheap but it's not a valid excuse for threats and/or violence.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

True again. Gaining popularity and making money by insulting other people is really cheap.Live in a shell. Cosy.

[Weasel]

Of course it's cheap but it's not a valid excuse for threats and/or violence.

That´s what I said. No excuse.

[ltrowley]

Political correctness is a form of totalitarianism in my mind. Think the way we think or you're a monster.

Towing to pressure from overly vocal minorities who want all the benefits of a democratic nation but none of the social responsiblities.


It's like your 26 year old unemployed nephew coming to stay at your house and then yelling at you to turn the telly down.

Fvck off I say.

[INAT]

As someone how holds art in high esteem I fully support that artists courage.Islam needs to come to terms with us and not the other way around.As one blog mission statement read.

The reason we are against Islam is not because it is a religion, but because it is a political ideology of imperialism and domination in the guise of religion. Because Islam does not follow the Golden Rule, it attracts violent people.

[RuneX2]

I never heard of her before. Now I have. I bet if the Islamist succeeds in really getting their message out there, her fame will soar worldwide. The Danish Muhammed Cartoons are without a doubt the globally most viewed cartoons in the history of mankind and today instant recognisable by hundred of millions. Somehow I doubt that was what the Islamists had in mind.

Some of Sarah Maple’s work is actually ok.

http://www.myartspace.com/blog/uploaded_images/M9-732683.jpg
http://www.myartspace.com/blog/uploaded_images/M7-762983.jpg
http://www.myartspace.com/blog/uploaded_images/M8-789906.jpg
http://www.myartspace.com/blog/uploaded_images/M10-768474.jpg

[Octavariable]

Maple told the network, “I just want to make valid points about East and West cultures and whether we can combine the two successfully.”



HAHAHAHHAroflrofl
well, I guess that answered her question

[ltrowley]

More power to this woman.

That series of pics hits it right on the head.

[BugHunt]

Some of them are pretty good ;)

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/imgs/artwork/521.jpg

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/imgs/artwork/516.jpg


http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=18&menuActive=artisthttp://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=14&menuActive=artist


ROFL -
http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=7&menuActive=artist


http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=1&menuActive=artist

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=18&menuActive=artist

[Lov3ll]

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/imgs/artwork/512.jpg
http://www.salongallery.co.uk/imgs/artwork/515.jpg

[BAF]

everything is offensive to those guys, we schould just ignore them and go on with our normal lifes.

[Weasel]

Some of them are pretty good ;)

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=18&menuActive=artisthttp://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=14&menuActive=artist


ROFL -
http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=7&menuActive=artist


http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=1&menuActive=artist

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist.php?selectedArtist=38&selectedArtwork=18&menuActive=artist

Despite all the background - you really think her stuff is good? :|

[BugHunt]

Despite all the background - you really think her stuff is good? :|


Its edgey and its saying stuff that frankly needs to be said....

Is art all down the displayed "skillz" (of which im sure shes capable of higher level, more detailed work etc) - or the message thats portrayed?


Maybe its the humour or her challenging of the extremist POV thats selling it ;)


But cmon that Blair T-shirt is pretty lolz p-)

[Hollis]

Death threats are too much but if you are provoking you have to face the response.

You reap what you sow.


That´s what I said. No excuse.


WOW double speak.

[California Joe]

That's not art. She's an attention whore. And now she's getting attention. It didn't take courage, it is a contrived manipulation. She knew what the reaction would be and used it.

Threatening to kill her is retarded, but by doing so they've given her far more credibility and gravitas than she deserves.

[theholeinthedonut]

Death threats are too much but if you are provoking you have to face the response.

You reap what you sow.

Youz are the biggest arsehole I ever met on the interwebs kraut boy...you reap what you sow wanker......duh

[TheOpposition]

everything is offensive to those guys, we schould just ignore them and go on with our normal lifes.

Wait a doggone minuet! Im offened by that!....rofl

[matthew.manhorn]

All East-West fusion culture, including artwork and food, are stupid.

Just try "Fusion" Chinese food and you'll realize it.

[INAT]

That's not art. She's an attention whore. And now she's getting attention. It didn't take courage, it is a contrived manipulation. She knew what the reaction would be and used it.

Threatening to kill her is retarded, but by doing so they've given her far more credibility and gravitas than she deserves.


I disagree with your views on what is and is not art. I do agree 100% that she knew very damn well what the reaction would from her fellow Muslims.
I see her work as sort of a way of saying F you to Islam.
For an artist controversy is always a good thing as it brings exposure and
is sometimes critiqued by a larger audience just because of the attention
it brings.She is successful in that respect.

Cali Joe do you not consider it art because it did not really take much talent to create? I know you paint right? I am interested in what style of art you are into because I can see you are not a fan of conceptual art.
I see your point though her work is nothing new.
___________________________________________________________

She is kinda cute but since she is an "artist" she probably
lets her armpits grow and does not trim the hedges.Yuck!

[seraosha]

It's art, and I like it.

[BAF]

Wait a doggone minuet! Im offened by that!....rofl


LOL i'm gonna ignore you and go on with my life then :p

[jimmymac]

Those 'works of art' are rubbish. She probably sent the threats to herself in order to get publicity. A ten year old would do better.

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist...Active=artist# (http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist...Active=artist#)

I'm no art critic but if I were I would probably agree with the threats!

[Calanen]

Those 'works of art' are rubbish. She probably sent the threats to herself in order to get publicity. A ten year old would do better.

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist...Active=artist# (http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist...Active=artist#)

I'm no art critic but if I were I would probably agree with the threats!


Yes because we all know how difficult it is to get certain members of the Islamic community offended. I mean, saying that they would get offended for real about some art is about as ridiculous as saying they would get offended and burn embassies and blow things up over a cartoon in a newspaper!

Yes such a statement is truly ridiculous, so I'm with you, she must have made up those death threats - as no members of the Religion of Peace™ would ever act with such aggression.

[C.MAXIMUS]

Those 'works of art' are rubbish. She probably sent the threats to herself in order to get publicity. A ten year old would do better.

http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist...Active=artist# (http://www.salongallery.co.uk/artist...Active=artist#)

I'm no art critic but if I were I would probably agree with the threats!

You are an idiot really... get a life! I am not a fan of modern art but it is rubish to be bullied around like this

[Red-Phos]

Shes fit i would give her one.

[Supe]

She's got a wicked sense of humour. I like.

[Supe]

Youz are the biggest arsehole I ever met on the interwebs kraut boy...you reap what you sow wanker......duh

His nick is apt. Weasel would make a fantastic Minister for Political Correctness. I knew another German (different forum) who was adamant that the Danish illustrators cartoons shouldn't have been printed because it was offensive. In essence, he was less for free speech and validly expressed ideas (comes in many forms) in order to avoid 'unnecessary unpleasantness'. I've noted this on some of the other threads with Germans and in posting of German domestic news and I am wondering if this is a widely held view, that freedom of speech and expression is limited to only that which does not offend and if it does, only to those political/social cost free issues (ala neo-nazis)? Criticise only that which is safe to criticise.

The modern German. Do not make noise, keep a low profile, be as unoffensive and obsequious as possible in order to avoid confrontation. Yes. I am of course generalising and stereotyping but this is the perception that is forming in my mind. It's taken centuries to get to the point we are today - and I'm appalled that people are so quick to undermine it; just so there's no trouble. We know what happens to people who always wish to avoid trouble. I hope that Weasel's opinion is not representative 'you reap what you sow' when talking of freedom of speech by majority of German people.

Regardless of whether this artists work is crap or has merit, she has a right to express herself in any way she sees fit (but hopefully in the spirit of real statement and not mindless insult). In the West, everything is up for critique and comment. We are heading down a dangerous road if we start making exceptions. btw. I have no problems with Muslims protesting the work - as long as it is done lawfully and without personal threat to this persons safety.

[Calanen]

I knew another German (different forum) who was adamant that the Danish illustrators cartoons shouldn't have been printed because it was offensive.


German strength needs to come back, instead of handwringing weaselly apologism at every turn. Our enemies laugh at us because of this, and why shouldnt they? Is it any wonder that the jihadis are so emboldened, when at every turn, we criticise ourselves and make excuses for them. A third party observer might say that our ridiculous attitude might mean our destruction is inevitable. I hope not however.

What I hope is that just the Left is too loud, rather than, the voice of all of Europe.

[Supe]

We're handicapped by two generations bought up to think that almost anything that has come out of the West (except celeb culture/materialism/iconic toys ~ ipod) is worthless and second rate. This feeds into prejudices, hate, envy from some immigrants that the nation they've settled in is populated by those only worth of being despised. (You've got to laugh at the mentality of people who have been invited to stay, only to show their sophistication and appreciation by squatting and taking a crap on the very people that gave them a helping hand). It is a revealing insight to the cultural 'richness' <insert sarcasm> they bring to the table.

I watched an SBS doco on immigrants living in French estates - and just about every sentence was about how they were victimised and how the French people were rubbish. But what galled and amazed me was this white French woman on a urban radio show received a caller who admitted to being an 'average French guy' who sneered and guffawed and proceed to ridicule this guy, till he finished off how he thought Sarkozy was an arsehole - to which in a small measure he had obviously redeemed himself in her eyes. I actually left a message on the comments section and that you'd have to be quick off the mark to beat this woman to bashing France. And therein lies the problem. If this woman who had been brought up with all opportunities that her education/class/ethnicity had provided to her - yet she thought nothing of it, it's not impossible to understand why others might also question its value. These immigrants and 2nd Generation French who were blaming their lack of job opportunities on the French people - struck me as odd because their are many multi-generational, well educated French citizens also unemployed. I am sure racism plays a card but I would think it more that the problem lies with the attitude of these people. After all, are not migrants from South East Asia and their offspring don't seem to have the same level of difficulty in adjusting to French society.

The prevailing left hegemony on cultural views has weakened the modern liberal democratic state because it does not appreciate alternative opinion or balance thought it is convinced that it does. It is not fashionable to be proud of your country and if you are, you are quite possibly a xeonophobic, uncultured, right wing loony. I'm a believer in the nation state as long as there are mechanisms to protect citizens and with checks and balance on power. These so-called borderless states are a nightmare ready to happen.

[Rudolph]

We're handicapped by two generations bought up to think that almost anything that has come out of the West (except celeb culture/materialism/iconic toys ~ ipod) is worthless and second rate. This feeds into prejudices, hate, envy from some immigrants that the nation they've settled in is populated by those only worth of being despised. (You've got to laugh at the mentality of people who have been invited to stay, only to show their sophistication and appreciation by squatting and taking a crap on the very people that gave them a helping hand). It is a revealing insight to the cultural 'richness' <insert sarcasm> they bring to the table.

I watched an SBS doco on immigrants living in French estates - and just about every sentence was about how they were victimised and how the French people were rubbish. But what galled and amazed me was this white French woman on a urban radio show received a caller who admitted to being an 'average French guy' who sneered and guffawed and proceed to ridicule this guy, till he finished off how he thought Sarkozy was an arsehole - to which in a small measure he had obviously redeemed himself in her eyes. I actually left a message on the comments section and that you'd have to be quick off the mark to beat this woman to bashing France. And therein lies the problem. If this woman who had been brought up with all opportunities that her education/class/ethnicity had provided to her - yet she thought nothing of it, it's not impossible to understand why others might also question its value. These immigrants and 2nd Generation French who were blaming their lack of job opportunities on the French people - struck me as odd because their are many multi-generational, well educated French citizens also unemployed. I am sure racism plays a card but I would think it more that the problem lies with the attitude of these people. After all, are not migrants from South East Asia and their offspring don't seem to have the same level of difficulty in adjusting to French society.

The prevailing left hegemony on cultural views has weakened the modern liberal democratic state because it does not appreciate alternative opinion or balance thought it is convinced that it does. It is not fashionable to be proud of your country and if you are, you are quite possibly a xeonophobic, uncultured, right wing loony. I'm a believer in the nation state as long as there are mechanisms to protect citizens and with checks and balance on power. These so-called borderless states are a nightmare ready to happen.

Can't be said enough times, the civility of the West will be its downfall. And no, that's not some genocidal plot to rid the earth of all non-Aryans... True multiculturalism exists in pockets around the world, once socio-economic conditions are the same for everyone in a neighbourhood there is little friction. I've experienced it myself many times. But the West seems to be at a place right now where it needs to decide how to deal with its enemies. You cannot fight a more overwhelming enemy, who's prepared to use any method at his disposal, by acting as you would to your neighbour who shares YOUR views and/or education, culture, standards, etc. The pragmatism so trademark of the Germanics (oh, Lord, not the Nazis!!!!) is currently still applied to Western work ethic, etc, and when the time arises people will once again apply that to other uses. The vocal minorities are not the problem, it's their extremism that blows their presence out of proportion. It's very important that dialogue is started with 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants who have embracad their hosts' culture and ideology and have them join the fight.

[Calanen]

The vocal minorities are not the problem, it's their extremism that blows their presence out of proportion. It's very important that dialogue is started with 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants who have embracad their hosts' culture and ideology and have them join the fight.


Its not *immigrants* that is the problem, its Islam, that is the problem. Hindus dont believe in a philosophy of taking over everything not Hindu. Sikhs dont believe in a philosophy of taking over everything not Sikh.

Islam teaches (whether individual muslims believe it or not is another thing) that it is the duty of every muslim, to call a jihad and overthrow any government that is not sharia. And the worst thing that a muslim can do is not join the jihad. There is no law but sharia law, there is no law but sharia government. And it is imperative, that when muslims are in suffiicient numbers that they use those numbers to destroy the current system and install Allah's law - sharia. That is never going to change, not with dialogues, or town meetings, or kumbayah fests.

You can bring any immigrants you want from anywhere - and multiculturalism can work just fine. It can NEVER work with Islam, because Islam is an imperialist system that seeks as a central duty to conquer and destroy everything else that is not Islamic. It is not capable of compromise, or making bargains that it keeps. It is imbued with a strong philosophy of deceiving infidels who are considered sub-human. There can be no lasting peace with infidels, only a 'hudna' until the next battle to destroy them.

And until people get this through their thick skulls, everyone is in danger. But why this is the case is very difficult to know, and takes a lot of reading. Most people do not have the patience. They also do not want to believe, that this is what Islam is all about, and so just shout you down as you patiently try to explain.

[Weasel]

Islam teaches (whether individual muslims believe it or not is another thing) that it is the duty of every muslim, to call a jihad and overthrow any government that is not sharia. And the worst thing that a muslim can do is not join the jihad. There is no law but sharia law, there is no law but sharia government. And it is imperative, that when muslims are in suffiicient numbers that they use those numbers to destroy the current system and install Allah's law - sharia. That is never going to change, not with dialogues, or town meetings, or kumbayah fests.


Is this your free interpretation or do you have a source for this statement? I guess you refer to the coran and official interpretations of parts of the coran.

[Calanen]

Is this your free interpretation or do you have a source for this statement? I guess you refer to the coran and official interpretations of parts of the coran.

If it was anyone else, I might bother to explain it all *again*. But do a search on my threads, and I have explained all of this many many times. As it's you however, who just trolls my threads and is generally unreasonable, I'm not going to get into it.

You wont get it until someone drives a carbomb into your house and detonates it, and even then, if you managed to survive, you would say it was our fault because we were not tolerant enough and accepting enough, which therefore drove the person to build and detonate the carbomb.

First people say:

1) Islam doesnt say this;

Then when you show, that Islam does say this, they say,

2) it's a bad translation

Then when you show, a number of translations, they say:

3) You are just an infidel, showing infidel understanding;

Then when you show, that the same infidel understanding, is preached in the textbooks, to muslim children they say:

4) Those textbooks are only used in Saudi Arabia, LMAO, Saudi Arabia, no one else uses those;

Then when you show, those same Saudi textbooks are being used throughout Islamic schools worldwide, they are given for free, they say:

5) But the teacher shows that these parts of the textbook don't apply - and well - What about the:

(a) Crusades;

(b) Native Americans;

(c) Slavery;

(d) the Ku Klux Klan.

It is impossible to have any sort of meaningful dialogue about this subject, with certain individuals.

[Weasel]

You wont get it until someone drives a carbomb into your house and detonates it

I´m not worried about nearly impossibilities.


It is impossible to have any sort of meaningful dialogue about this subject, with certain individuals.

I agree. Fear makes blind.

[Calanen]

I´m not worried about nearly impossibilities.

Satire is lost on some Germans. You probably believe that there really is a flying circus owned by someone called 'Monty Python' but that it should be prosecuted under consumer legislation for having no feathered animals.


I agree. Fear makes blind.

Fear? Do we fear fire because we call the fire brigade? Or should we watch things burn just to show how tough we are and 'unafraid'. Whatever names you would like to call me changes nothing, you call me afraid, coward, Nazi - whatever - changes zero.

However many examples I posted, however many quotes - you would still say its a tiny minority of minstranslated extremists. So there is no point for you - but - there is a point for other people who believe what their own eyes shows them to be true every day.

[marius]

I think Sara Maple's work is quite clever and bears a resemblance to the works of Martin Kippenberger. Ten years ago her work might at most have been condemned by the Catholic church, today she faces a very real threat to her life.
I wonder where we will be in ten years time...

[TheOpposition]

Personaly I could care less about the threat. Its would be no less than what "They" did the relative of Vincent van Gough. far as im concerened somone probably seen it as an eye for an eye.I don't belive violence it helpful in anyway, but karma is and forever will be a bitch..

[martinexsquaddie]

she's cute and funny and she annoys terrorists:)
what not to like

[ren0312]

she's cute and funny and she annoys terrorists:)
what not to like

The Nightwatch is still>whatever this person can come up with, and most modern "art".

[3rdMillhouse]

Ship'em back to their countries.