Are US citizens ready for the black president?

[peterli]

As title,does Amercian people get ready to accept a black president?
Negroes once had very low status in US society, and sometime,there are still incidents happened concerning the Discrimination about blacks,at least that is a sign that there are still Exclusion about them,But now a people from that group is going to charge the whole country,

[ronnieraygun]

Negroes


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll307/hillbillypharmacist/ObamaHellNo.jpg

[LineDoggie]

Is there one running?

[ronnieraygun]

Now here's a black president we can believe in...

http://www.youtube.com/v/g2KbLejO8mY

[osnunez]

I'm ready.

By the way, "Negroes" is kind of a negative term. Try using "Black" or "African American"

[CG51]

he is mixed (is that a PC term?)

[peterli]

I'm ready.

By the way, "Negroes" is kind of a negative term. Try using "Black" or "African American"
Sorry ,I don't mean that,

[osnunez]

I thought so, I'm just tryin' ta help a brotha out.

[ronnieraygun]

Sorry ,I don't mean that,

Well, to be constructive, perhaps try the "obama-biden discussion" thread. It keeps us from having to discuss every time Obama takes a ****.

[LineDoggie]

I'm ready.

By the way, "Negroes" is kind of a negative term. Try using "Black" or "African American"Gee, then I guess the UNCF (United Negro College Fund) changed it's Name, huh?

http://www.uncf.org/

[CG51]

O.M.G.

Obama took a sh!T? someone pst pix

[RECON DOC]

Skin colour dosn't matter, competency and integrity do.
In my opinion neither candidate is possessed of either.
The People are deserving of one that is, but will not recieve one.

[ronnieraygun]

O.M.G.

Obama took a sh!T? someone pst pix

Denver (AP) In a startling move today, Democratic presidential frontrunner Barack Obama took yet another dump.
"This **** was good," announced the junior senator from Illinois. "For years, my opponent, Senator McCain, has been taking ****s just like Geroge Bush. We honor and respect Senator McCain's servile dumps to his country, but that **** is not change."
Obama was speaking at a campaign rally outside of Denver that estimates report was attended by nearly 100,000 supporters.
"America digs my ****," Obama addressed an enthusiastic crowd. "From now on, every time I drop a load, all y'all mother ****ers will hear about it and repeat my **** on every internet message board like a **** echo chamber."
Meanwhile, Republican challenger John McCain repudiated Obama's claim that his **** was in line with most ****s from incumbent presidential ****maker George W. Bush.
"Time and time again," responded McCain, "my **** is maverick. It bounces around both sides of the isle. Senator Obama wants to regulate how much **** the American citizen makes every day. He wants to socialize our **** so much he'll put poor Joe the Plumber out of a job because there will be no more **** left to work with. My friends, that **** sucks because it's the American dream to shovel as much **** as possible."

[Supe]

As title,does Amercian people get ready to accept a black president?
Negroes once had very low status in US society, and sometime,there are still incidents happened concerning the Discrimination about blacks,at least that is a sign that there are still Exclusion about them,But now a people from that group is going to charge the whole country,

Dude. 'negroes' is an archaic term and has a connotation of an insult, particularly in the US. Just like 'Chinaman'. Or 'Jap' and 'nip'.

@linedoggie. There's historical context for that. But I bet you and those around you don't talk about 'coloureds' and 'negroes' when referring to black people.

Obama has gone out of his way to not make it about race (he has tangentially touched on it), though others on both sides of American politics have. If he had based his campaign on race, he would not be in the position he is now. Hilary Clinton would be gunning for the Presidency instead.

People should not be voting for colour of skin/religion/ethnicity but what they say they bring to the table. Ideally, they should be people of substance, credible and to serve the people with the best of intentions. Be a person of vision and willing to see the long road even if the vision goes beyond their years in office. They must not forget their responsiblities and that millions of citizens depend on them for good judgment and sound decisions.

That's the wish list anyway.

[WarDancer]

The fact that he's black, colored, negro, African-American, or what ever title they are using these days never even entered my mind. Its his policies that scare the be jeezus outta me even If he was White, yellow, brown or purple.

[themacedonian]

As title,does Amercian people get ready to accept a black president?
Negroes once had very low status in US society, and sometime,there are still incidents happened concerning the Discrimination about blacks,at least that is a sign that there are still Exclusion about them,But now a people from that group is going to charge the whole country,

He is shade of brown. hardly black.

[themacedonian]

The fact that he's black, colored, negro, African-American, or what ever title they are using these days never even entered my mind. Its his policies that scare the be jeezus outta me even If he was White, yellow, brown or purple.

which policies are scary? Actually his success of the times. He just happens to be running at a time of bad economic times.

It would be scary if McCain wins meaning the population in the US are happy with their country as it is.

[Johnnyringo]

Only Joe the (non licensed, underpaid, non-tax abiding) plumber thinks President Obama means death to Isreal.... and I bet he can't even identify Isreal on a map....

[LineDoggie]

Only Joe the (non licensed, underpaid, non-tax abiding) plumber thinks President Obama means death to Isreal.... and I bet he can't even identify Isreal on a map....

Riiiiight, because you say so :roll:

[Johnnyringo]

You're right I can't... you'd have to ask "Joe's" publicist....

[Thor]

Transition of power has worked out well in South Africa and Zimbabwe, and why not in America?

Vote for change, vote for Obama.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/781/largeobamapu4.jpg

[Johnnyringo]

We have a transition of power every four years why should this one be any different???

[the_hog]

Transition of power has worked out well in South Africa and Zimbabwe, and why not in America?

Vote for change, vote for Obama.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/781/largeobamapu4.jpg
Hint of sarcasm but as you say.. it has worked well.

[XShipRider]

A sad truth that if he wins his claim to fame will be "America's first black president" rather than just president. I don't think we'll ever get over our fascination with the color barrier, so to speak. I do fully realize the implications of such a win, it's historic and breaks the glass ceiling forever. Breaking the ceiling is the positive.

But many will vote for him because he's black rather than for his ability to govern. That too is sad. Will he do a good job? Well, we may just find out starting high noon on January 20th.

It is ironic, and a tad hypocritical, that the very countries who view America as bigoted have not come close to electing a black leader. But i digress.

[JQ24]

Color never even entered my mind. All I care about is how well he can do the job.

[bobunio]

I wouldnt be surprised at all if Obama wins. A lot of people are digging the whole "rob the rich and give to the poor" thing. After he implements these policies, the economy will become even worse, and he is off the hook because he can just blame it on the previous president. Wealthy people and businesses will cut back and not expand because the extra taxes are do not justify the return.

And then there's the way a lot of the international players (middle east, russia/etc) will attempt to take advantage us. Sure hope he has the nuts to pull the trigger.

[alphasixfour]

Skin color doesn't matter. I don't think the nation will be too accepting when he turns out to be another Bush. Both candidates in this election are almost mirrors of one another. They lack the experience to make any decisions on their own and obey their puppet master's every tug and pull.

[vryhpyammoadded]

The US is ready for whatever person our party masters desire to nail to the White House cross.

Personally I don’t give a rat’s ass about skin color. Skin color isn't as big a deal as the press likes to present. Culture, upbringing, education, ideology are whole other issues though. For example, should Obama agree with one iota of Black Liberation Theology, I’d prefer he stay as far away from the government as possible. But, knowing such a thing is a powerful tool of identity politics, I’m certain black anger and white guilt will be leveraged to the hilt to continue the divide and conquer and income redistribution to the Plutocrats.

[IDF_TANKER]

Transition of power has worked out well in South Africa and Zimbabwe, and why not in America?

Vote for change, vote for Obama.


Apples and oranges. In SA and Zimbabwe it was change of regime, not just electing a president which happens to have a different skin color. He was born and raised in US, Harward educated - he as American as it gets. The difference between people of different skin color in SA is difference between West and Africa, that's why when regime changed, a state which was created and managed by western technocrats(white people) couldn't work so well, when Africans representing a diametrically different culture came to rule it.

[CombatBoots]

Skin colour matters to politics, they divide you into so many groups your brain would die just thinking about it.
"Hey 75% of this state drink Pepsi more than Coca-Cola, so lets have you casually drink a pepsi so it looks natural to the voters"
I mean, colour, religion, gender... It will always be important, if not to us, then to the people running the campaign.

[sct1886]

The accusation by the press here that we would not vote for a "black man" is insulting propaganda. If a candidate is a good and competent individual, I would vote for any man or woman. Obama is a racist, socialist and wacko. He attended a racist church for twenty years. He openly calls for redistribution of wealth. He has called for a "national police force" as powerful as the military in size and funding. Lunacy...

"Any alleged “right” of one man which necessitates the violation of the right of another, is not, and cannot be a right."

"The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it." Ayn Rand

[perdurabo]

Dude. 'negroes' is an archaic term and has a connotation of an insult, particularly in the US. Just like 'Chinaman'. Or 'Jap' and 'nip'.

dude newsflash he's from Beijing so it is high prabability that he isn't yank and english isn't his native language he also said he is sorry erlier when his mistake was pointed

[DID]

Why not? Roman empire had Cesars from a lot of nation they invade...

[daily666]

he is mixed (is that a PC term?)

In here you can use Mulatte/Mulatto, it's not pejorative or negative, just describes a person with one black and one white parent. "Negro" however is out of the question.

I'm not American so from my point of view, in these times I'd like McCain as a president, but as far as i can see US policy, they don't and won't differ much.

[helomech]

Is America ready for a black president?

Sure it is,as long as he's a US citizen (with official birth certificate available) and that he's not pushing his partys -Democrat- socialist type agendas' (which have a high probability of failure i.e.,redistribution of wealth)to the peoples of the country

If black America wants' to move on,then change the name of the NAACP and the UNCF to something else or get rid of them all together because to me it perpetuates the race/color/creed problem

[FlintHillBilly]

Honestly, what does it matter if the president is Black, Yellow, Orange, White? If Obama looses black people are gonna scream racism like they have done since the 60's. Its not the color of the canidate that concerns me, its the policies. They have to meet certain guidlines reserved by the constitution too, such as a being a natural born citizen.

Id be even more ready for a black president if he impliments white scholarships, white history month, ect ect. I know it seems racist, but i think its highly unfair that minorities get extra special attention. Then again can a white person be proud of thier heritage without being labeled racist?

[MJC9678]

Obama and his friends stole our dates back at this bar in college.....we were on a road trip.

[seraosha]

Sure, America has been ready for a non-white president for a while.

"Black" in Obama's case, is open for debate.

[marius]

As an outsider the fact that a lot of people find it acceptable to be voting for someone because the candidate is 'black' or 'a woman' and openly admit this as their reason for choosing the candidate strikes me as odd.

The logic surrounding 'affirmative action' or the need to enter your 'race' on a form seem equally counter productive to a non-discriminating society as the goal of equality is lost to differentiation and hence the norms set by the ruling parties.

One of the presidential candidates has a history of hostility towards the (second amendment of) the US constitution - still people and the press are more occupied by the quality of his pigmentation than his politics.

[Andrew Chalmers]

Well ready or not - it is going to happen.

As for whether he is "black" or "half" - in the parts of the country where I've lived - if you have a black parent or black grandparent and you're dark - you're black.

Like the integration of the US military - who cares if America is ready - it'll just have to get used to it.

[seraosha]

Well ready or not - it is going to happen.


Eventually, but perhaps not this year, eh?

[BearInBunnySuit]

I found several things about this election quite interesting.

1. I think in some ways Obama has already won. He's not only the first Afro-American presidential candidate who America has embraced but is significantly ahead in the polls.

2. The first viable AA presidential candidate has no connection whatsoever to American slavery.

3. He is also half white but everyone focuses on the African side.

4. He may be the first person elected to presidency who is a first generation American looking at it from his father's side.

[JKD]

Is America ready for a black president?

Sure it is,as long as he's a US citizen (with official birth certificate available) and that he's not pushing his partys -Democrat- socialist type agendas' (which have a high probability of failure i.e.,redistribution of wealth)to the peoples of the country


The Obama birth certificate conspiracy theory has been put to rest.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00

And our 'socialist' government has been redistributing our wealth since, what, 1916?

[Andrew Chalmers]

Sure it is,as long as he's a US citizen (with official birth certificate available).

News Flash - you have to be a US Citizen to be a member of the United States Senate.

[helomech]

The Obama birth certificate conspiracy theory has been put to rest.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00

And our 'socialist' government has been redistributing our wealth since, what, 1916?

I still call bullsh1t on the whole birth certificate issue because,why did it take so long for it to finally come to rest?And for it to come to light after he went to Hawaii to see his 'sick' relative?

Redistributing the wealth can be done differently than what he wants to do by increasing taxes on those who make X-amount of dollars of year because there are those who don't have enough;why should the wealthy have to pay an exorbitant of taxes just because they more?Most who have wealth now,didn't have it when they were younger and were not born into it,they worked long hours to get to where they are at

[JKD]

I still call bullsh1t on the whole birth certificate issue because,why did it take so long for it to finally come to rest?And for it to come to light after he went to Hawaii to see his 'sick' relative?
Well we've had 9/11 truthers...now comes the age of Obama birth certificate nutters.

So now his grandmother isn't really dying and it was all some sort of dastardly plan to get to those Hawaii state officials?


Redistributing the wealth can be done differently than what he wants to do by increasing taxes on those who make X-amount of dollars of year because there are those who don't have enough;why should the wealthy have to pay an exorbitant of taxes just because they more?Most who have wealth now,didn't have it when they were younger and were not born into it,they worked long hours to get to where they are at
That's not just Obama's plan, that how it's done right now. The wealthy pay more. That's how it's been done for close to a century. It's only socialist when Obama does it?

[Andrew Chalmers]

Eventually, but perhaps not this year, eh?

Sorry to say - I don't see how John McCain can overcome electoral math. At this point - he can win OH, PA, IN, NC, and FL and still lose this election.

Obama is solid in NM, CO, VA and NM is leaning this year.

Short of massive voter suppression and a Monday night surprise (OBAMA IN TERROR VIDEO!) - I doubt McCain can pull it off.

[TheOpposition]

The fact that he's black, colored, negro, African-American, or what ever title they are using these days never even entered my mind. Its his policies that scare the be jeezus outta me even If he was White, yellow, brown or purple.

Wow..what's scary is somone Jewish being insensitive twards Anyone.."what ever it is they are called these days"..I swear this is like one of thoes irror within a mirror images.

[TheOpposition]

Wow..what's scary is somone Jewish being insensitive twards Anyone.."what ever it is they are called these days"..I swear this is like one of thoes irror within a mirror images.


P.S If/when he does make it you know some redneck is gonna have an ambition to burn a cross infront of the white house..then get shot by secret service soon after lol.

[Bringer of Greater Things]

I have no doubt that we're ready for a black president, or a woman president.
It's not like people are insisting that he's going to appoint Jesse Jackson and Ludacris to the supreme court, right?

(Oh yeah...)

[Afro-European]

Why are some people putting more emphasis on his black side,not the white one? Why are those guys trying hard to hide his 50% of whiteness? I 'd say is America ready for a half white president?
The answer:let's wait til november the 5th in the morning.
Obama all the way baby.

[Lee]

I hear people stating that skin color doesn't matter. Tell that to the 98% of blacks that are going to vote for him basing their vote on skin color.

[m.i.t]

l have never been to US before. So american members of Mp.net may help us...

İs there a still hard discrimination among the races currently ?

Why is the great problem black president in USA ?

Blacks joined army and died for USA in many wars . Atleast l watched it in many American movies like platoon..

But Many americans mention assainations incase of his wining of the elections like JFK in different websites....





it seems he is quite young charismatic and energic person like ex-president Clinton and US need like that man nowadays which country live hardest economic crisis after 1929 crisis..

l think Mccain is too old and consumpted his all energy...l dont belive his period will be
brilliant for US...

[FlintHillBilly]

I still call bullsh1t on the whole birth certificate issue because,why did it take so long for it to finally come to rest?And for it to come to light after he went to Hawaii to see his 'sick' relative?



I agree its still bull crap. Why is someone so hesitant in releasing his/her birth cert. Mccain did it right away, Obama? Not so much, so it kinda shows hes hiding something.

What the american people really want is truth, from both sides. It doesnt surprise me that Hawaii says its real no doubt, ect ect, after all they are proud Obama could be the president. Im sure they will do anything they can so they can claim Obama was born/came from Hawaii. I still think something is fishy. Besides i read somewhere that the Govenor of Hawaii had locked up the "birth cert." so nobody could access it? I know birth cert. arnt exactly public, but why lock it up in suspicion?

Besides i also do believe the Constitution says nothing about someone running for president to be a natural born citizen ect ect, its if the person is elected they must be a natural born citizen and so forth.

Sorry to be a little off topic.



I hear people stating that skin color doesn't matter. Tell that to the 98% of blacks that are going to vote for him basing their vote on skin color.


I also agree. Ive seen alot of videos of african americans being asked why they are voting for Obama, and most of them say cause hes black, they also cannot name any major accomplishments from him. Sad thing is, when and if Obama is not elected most whites are going to be labeled racist and most people will probably think of the USA as racist.

[Andrew Chalmers]

İs there a still hard discrimination among the races currently?

Depends on the region, environment, and circumstances. There are people who will unleash a load of racial prejudices with just a little prodding - others who will volunteer it at will.


Why is the great problem black president in USA ?

Blacks joined army and died for USA in many wars . At least l watched it in many American movies like platoon..

Unfortunately - whether an ethnic or religious group is willing to die for their country has little to do with whether they're treated with equality.

Japanese-Americans were interned while their young volunteered to die for this country. Homo******s are discriminated against even if they have served the country in uniform (the whole unit cohesion is undermined argument was used against African-Americans). Being an Arab or a Muslim is still being used as a smear against presidential candidates - even through both Arabs and Muslims have served this country with distinction.

[BugHunt]

Just as long as Obama appoints 50 cents as his national security advisor he'll do fine.


Probably alot better then Bush...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/07/03/arts/50span.jpg

[FlintHillBilly]

Just as long as Obama appoints 50 cents as his national security advisor he'll do fine.






Haha, or he could just disband the military and have 50 cent take over rouge states and states that dont cooperate. Hes bullet proof. Funny pic by the way.

[LaoSexMachine]

As title,does Amercian people get ready to accept a black president?
Negroes once had very low status in US society, and sometime,there are still incidents happened concerning the Discrimination about blacks,at least that is a sign that there are still Exclusion about them,But now a people from that group is going to charge the whole country,


America is a big place and race issues does happen but if America wasn't ready Obama wouldn't be in the running.

[FlintHillBilly]

America is a big place and race issues does happen but if America wasn't ready Obama wouldn't be in the running.


Sure he would, doesnt take alot to run for President, alls you need is alot of money and power.

[LaoSexMachine]

Sure he would, doesnt take alot to run for President, alls you need is alot of money and power.


It's a shame Tony Montana got blasted in Miami.

[osnunez]

What the american people really want is truth, from both sides. It doesnt surprise me that Hawaii says its real no doubt, ect ect, after all they are proud Obama could be the president. Im sure they will do anything they can so they can claim Obama was born/came from Hawaii. I still think something is fishy. Besides i read somewhere that the Govenor of Hawaii had locked up the "birth cert." so nobody could access it? I know birth cert. arnt exactly public, but why lock it up in suspicion?


willytee, I agree with you on the first part of your paragraph, but if you want to stand by your words, don't speculate.

TRUTH is based on FACTS.

Nobody likes to hear people preach truth based on speculation.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

America is ready for a black president and will have one come Wednesday morning.

Whether or not America (or the world for that matter) is ready to forget he's black and just American president is another question. And all of those out there lambasting a latent racist America, ask yourself if a black (or other significant minority) could get elected in your country.

[Afro-European]

I also agree. Ive seen alot of videos of african americans being asked why they are voting for Obama, and most of them say cause hes black, they also cannot name any major accomplishments from him.

You conveniently forgot to mention that blacks having been massively voting for white democrats since 1965 and nobody spoke about racism.Now that they are doing the same for Obama,a democrat,who happens to be half white( since people are only putting emphasis on his black side),some of you guys cry racism.Give it a break man.Obama 08.

Sad thing is, when and if Obama is not elected most whites are going to be labeled racist and most people will probably think of the USA as racist.
Not me.Pople are free to vote for the candidate of their choice.I must add that Obama wouldn't have the opportunity he has in the US if he was born,let me say,in Europe.So the US isn't as racist as some people try to portray it.

[MichaelF]

5 pages and not single Blazing Saddles reference.

You disappoint me, MP.net

[seraosha]

Too busy eating beans.

[EZFEED]

As title,does Amercian people get ready to accept a black president?
Negroes once had very low status in US society, and sometime,there are still incidents happened concerning the Discrimination about blacks,at least that is a sign that there are still Exclusion about them,But now a people from that group is going to charge the whole country,

Shoot...........seems some blacks arent ready for a black president either.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/572855/

I know some blacks here that arent voting for him as well. Ask them and they'll say they "cant trust a brotha in power"rofl Unbelievable! Either way there is a percentage that wil not vote Obamination.

[budgie]

Too busy eating beans.

...and whorin'

[BlackFlag]

Color isn't so much an issue for me. It's the fact that his stance on our second amendment is unacceptable.

Also, I think how people say they will not vote for him because he is black they are racist. However, almost EVERY black person I know say that's exactly why they are voting for him. Now If I were to say I was going to vote for John McCain because he is white like me then I would be a racist.

[EZFEED]

Color isn't so much an issue for me. It's the fact that his stance on our second amendment is unacceptable.

Also, I think how people say they will not vote for him because he is black they are racist. However, almost EVERY black person I know say that's exactly why they are voting for him. Now If I were to say I was going to vote for John McCain because he is white like me then I would be a racist.

Ditto on both issuesp-)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1022

Not suprising why he's shied away from discussing the issue........

[Bia]

The white Alaskan lady scares me much more than the semi-brotha from the land of Lincoln.
I grew up in an urban environment... I can tell the scary ones easily.

:P

[Skutatos]

Im ready for a black president, as long as its not Obama.

[Horse Thief]

I'd say 80% at least are ready for a Black president. You have around half voting for him, and the other half that isnt voting for him, doesn't do so for other reasons, not racial ones. What I'm saying is just because the half that isn't voting for HIM, doesn't mean they aren't ready for a Black president. They just think McCain is better.

[LEGEND]

If he wins, then first thing he must do is get rid of affirmative action.

[Skutatos]

If he wins, then first thing he must do is get rid of affirmative action.

Something probably only a minority president could do.

[Dragunov]

The people I know from the US think that he will only benefit the Blacks. And that he is going to get shot.

[Skutatos]

The people I know from the US think that he will only benefit the Blacks. And that he is going to get shot.

Its also election season and emotions are running high. They are probably just venting.

[LaoSexMachine]

The people I know from the US think that he will only benefit the Blacks. And that he is going to get shot.

I hear this too but those people aren't that smart in the first place. They make it seems like he can pass any law he wants and the country will go along with it.

[LEGEND]

Something probably only a minority president could do.

Yep and besides, black president being in office is a testament that there is no more need for affirmative action... equal rights for everyone.

[ren0312]

dude newsflash he's from Beijing so it is high prabability that he isn't yank and english isn't his native language he also said he is sorry erlier when his mistake was pointed

In the Spanish world the word negro is an considered as a racial epithet.

[LaoSexMachine]

In the Spanish world the word negro is an considered as a racial epithet.


Negro is the color black. It can describe a black car or a black person. There is something more harsher in Spanish but I won't say it.

[ren0312]

dude newsflash he's from Beijing so it is high prabability that he isn't yank and english isn't his native language he also said he is sorry erlier when his mistake was pointed

While ethnocentrism did exist in ancient China(as it does in virtually all societies in history), they never formally practiced slavery or enforced official racial segregation.

[LaoSexMachine]

While ethnocentrism did exist in ancient China(as it does in virtually all societies in history), they never formally practiced slavery or enforced official racial segregation.


Proof .

[ren0312]

Negro is the color black. It can describe a black car or a black person. There is something more harsher in Spanish but I won't say it.

You can call Kobe Bryant or King James itim(Filipino word for Black) or negro and you will not get crucified here, although the term itim or black is more commonly used.

[BearInBunnySuit]

While ethnocentrism did exist in ancient China(as it does in virtually all societies in history), they never formally practiced slavery or enforced official racial segregation.

Erm, I think you might want to elaborate because there's quite a bit of documentation on slavery in China.

[LaoSexMachine]

You can call Kobe Bryant or King James itim(Filipino word for Black) or negro and you will not get crucified here, although the term itim or black is more commonly used.


Here in America I hear Spanish speakers refer to blacks as negro. Now Negroe with a "e" is different. You use that people will give you a look.

[ren0312]

Proof .

Ok sorry, apparently slavery was practiced to a limited extent in some dynasties, and fell out of favor in some dynastys, its existance largely depended on the whims of the ruler, and in some ways was more akin to Roman or Greek style slavery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#China

China
Slavery in China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China) has repeatedly come in and out of favor. Due to the enormous population of the region throughout most of its history, China has relatively had an almost unlimited workforce of cheap labor. Thus, the economy would naturally rely on a system of serfdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom), slavery, or a combination of both. Approximately 5% of China's population was enslaved in ancient Han China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Dynasty) (206 BC–220 AD), later included kidnapped or bought Negritos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negritos) from the Philippines, and slavery continued in China until the early 20th century.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
"In the houses of wealthy citizens, it is not unusual to find twenty to thirty slaves attending upon a family. Even citizens in the humbler walks of life deem it necessary to have each a slave or two. The price of a slave varies, of course, according to age, health, strength, and general appearance. The average price is from fifty to one hundred dollars, but in time of war, or revolution, poor parents, on the verge of starvation, offer their sons and daughters for sale at remarkably low prices. I remember instances of parents, rendered destitute by the marauding bands who invested the two southern Kwangs in 1854-55, offering to sell their daughters in Canton for five dollars apiece. . . . The slavery to which these unfortunate persons are subject, is perpetual and hereditary, and they have no parental authority over their offspring. The great-grandsons of slaves, however, can, if they have sufficient means, purchase their freedom. . . . Masters seem to have the same uncontrolled power over their slaves that parents have over their children. Thus a master is not called to account for the death of a slave, although it is the result of punishment inflicted by him."[261] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#cite_note-260) "In former times slaves were slain and offered in sacrifice to the spirit of the owner when dead, or by him to his ancestors: sometimes given as a substitute to suffer the death penalty incurred by his owner or in fulfillment of a vow. It used to be customary in Kuei-chou (and Szü-chuan too, I believe) to inter living slaves with their dead owners; the slaves were to keep a lamp burning in the tomb.... Slavery exists in China, especially in Canton and Peking.... It is a common thing for well-to-do people to present a couple of slave girls to a daughter as part of her marriage dowery [sic]. Nearly all prostitutes are slaves. It is, however, customary with respectable people to release their slave girls when marriageable. Some people sell their slaves girls to men wanting a wife for themselves or for a son of theirs. I have bought three different girls: two in Szü-chuan for a few taels each, less than fifteen dollars. One I released in Tientsin, another died in Hongkong; the other I gave in marriage to a faithful servant of mine. Some are worth much money at Shanghai."[262] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#cite_note-261) Private slavery in China was technically abolished in 1910,[263] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#cite_note-262) although the practice apparently still continues unofficially in some regions.[264] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#cite_note-263)[265] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#cite_note-264) The Chinese government continues to practice slavery in the form of forced prison labor for a wide variety of raw material processing and manufacture of goods for both domestic consumption and export. It is estimated that in the last 50 years more than 50 million people was sent to the Laogai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai) forced-labor camps.[266] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#cite_note-265)

[ren0312]

Here in America I hear Spanish speakers refer to blacks as negro. Now Negroe with a "e" is different. You use that people will give you a look.

In Tagalog you have the word negro, never heard about the word negroe, or even seen it until you mentioned it.

[LaoSexMachine]

In Tagalog you have the word negro, never heard about the word negroe, or even seen it until you mentioned it.

The original thread starter use "Negroe".Which use to be used alot here in America.

[Winger]

The thread title is wrong. I'm not on the Obama Ark but I will say this; Obama is not a Black candidate. That would of been someone like Jesse Jackson. Obama is a candidate who happens to be black. And the type of candidate that is shrewd. He has sought power for a good portion of his life and is smart enough to realize that assimilating himself was the path to success.

[Atlantic Friend]

I hear people stating that skin color doesn't matter. Tell that to the 98% of blacks that are going to vote for him basing their vote on skin color.

Where does the % come from ?

[Jobu]

Obama is not a Black candidate. That would of been someone like Jesse Jackson.


That depends on who he's talking to. In front of a black audience, he is Jesse Jackson. In front of a white audience, he's Jimmy Carter.

Neither is acceptable in my eyes.

[Horse Thief]

Most people don't feel like that, i know I don't. Unless you're looking for something that isn't there on purpose. He speaks to everyone about the same things, but obviosly if you're talking to one group with a specific set of problems you're going to adress those.

[0rphie]

The fact that he's black, colored, negro, African-American, or what ever title they are using these days never even entered my mind. Its his policies that scare the be jeezus outta me even If he was White, yellow, brown or purple.
this is about right, he is a marxist!

[Parx400]

Where does the % come from ?

98% is a little high. 90% would be more realistic. Even in the Primary's Obama was getting 80-90% of the black vote.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

As an outsider the fact that a lot of people find it acceptable to be voting for someone because the candidate is 'black' or 'a woman' and openly admit this as their reason for choosing the candidate strikes me as odd.

Dude it's "Merika" we are talking about here

The logic surrounding 'affirmative action' or the need to enter your 'race' on a form seem equally counter productive to a non-discriminating society as the goal of equality is lost to differentiation and hence the norms set by the ruling parties.

Ticking a box on a form helps governments make decisions with regards to policy for ethnic minorities such as blacks in America or Aboriginals in Australia

One of the presidential candidates has a history of hostility towards the (second amendment of) the US constitution - still people and the press are more occupied by the quality of his pigmentation than his politics.

As I said. It's "Merika" we are talking about here.

[Createdeemcee]

Yes we are ready, Make it happen already! Weve actually have been ready for a new one period, but since hes the best out of the 2 he will do.

[jupiter]

Yes we are ready, Make it happen already! Weve actually have been ready for a new one period, but since hes the best out of the 2 he will do.
Maybe he's the less bad of the two!

[Euroamerican]

More like the worst of the two...

No thanks to this "black man" for president. I'd easily vote for a conservative, consitution-believing, non-radical-hugging "black man". Give me someone more steady like Colin Powell, more experienced like Condi Rice, or more conservative and family-oriented like Tony Dungy.

Sorry, Obama is the wrong person for the job, no matter what skin tone.

[Createdeemcee]

Maybe he's the less bad of the two!

You say tomato, I say tamato!

[SBL]

You say tomato, I say tamato!
That's t-o-m-a-t-o.

[jupiter]

this is about right, he is a marxist!
Basically, he wants to "spread the wealth" but he didn't say how he'll get the money to do so.

[Createdeemcee]

Give me someone more steady like Colin Powell, more experienced like Condi Rice, or more conservative and family-oriented like Tony Dungy.



haha get real. Cp would be great, Condi hell no, she came from the same failing eintities that have us all where we are. CP for sure since he left bush before the kitchen was too hot.



That's t-o-m-a-t-o.


Thank You sir!

[jupiter]

More like the worst of the two...

No thanks to this "black man" for president. I'd easily vote for a conservative, consitution-believing, non-radical-hugging "black man". Give me someone more steady like Colin Powell, more experienced like Condi Rice, or more conservative and family-oriented like Tony Dungy.

Sorry, Obama is the wrong person for the job, no matter what skin tone.
My firts post was ironic. but yes, he is a socialist. or marxist for that matters.

[jupiter]

98% is a little high. 90% would be more realistic. Even in the Primary's Obama was getting 80-90% of the black vote.
Of the america's population, whats the % of blacks in this country? From that point you can do the math.

[Euroamerican]

haha get real. Cp would be great, Condi hell no, she came from the same failing eintities that have us all where we are. CP for sure since he left bush before the kitchen was too hot.



Thank You sir!

What the heck. Tony Dungy's got a lot of leadership skills and a moral compass that helps guide him.

I agree with you that Condi is tainted by her association with the Bushies.

I think that she would have been nominated as VP (assuming she would run) if not for that fact.

I have to say that the weirdness with poking the Russians in the eye this summer makes me wonder about her a little bit.

[Lt. James Anderson]

98% is a little high. 90% would be more realistic. Even in the Primary's Obama was getting 80-90% of the black vote.

Around these parts is more like 98, maybe even 100. But I don't think there's anything wrong with that. They are just supporting one of their own.

Also I've met quite a few white people who will vote for him just because he's black.

[Bia]

So the blacks voting for white men all these years.... were just posers?


Only an insecure and highly ignorant person thinks such things... that blacks are voting for him because he's black and whites do it out of guilt.

The Archie Bunker era is over... get used to it.

[Kitsune]

Isn't this whole discussion amazing? Obamas father was black...and his mother was white. Yet apparently, he is still considered to be a black himself. Why is that? Why isn't he considered a white instead, because of his diluted African heritage? At the very least he should be regarded as checkered or something. Let's face it: as far as his "race" is concerned, white people have as much reason to identify themselves with Obama as Afro-Americans do.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Only an insecure and highly ignorant person thinks such things... that blacks are voting for him because he's black and whites do it out of guilt.

Ignorant and insecure? Whatever ... That's the impression I got by talking to people and that's it. Nothing more to it.

Honestly, I don't give a f... either way.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Isn't this whole discussion amazing? Obamas father was black...and his mother was white. Yet apparently, he is still considered to be a black himself. Why is that? Why isn't he considered a white instead, because of his diluted African heritage? At the very least he should be regarded as checkered or something. Let's face it: as far as his "race" is concerned, white people have as much reason to identify themselves with Obama as Afro-Americans do.

Does he look white? I'm white, I have blonde hair and he looks nothing like me.

[Kitsune]

If you fall into a big pot with tarr you look even less white than Obama afterwards. But would that change who you are?

[Lt. James Anderson]

If you fall into a big pot with tarr you look even less white than Obama afterwards. But would that change who you are?

So are you saying he fell into a big pot with tarr? :)

Either way I'm pretty sure he doesn't consider himself white.

[SBL]

I think Kitsune just called Obama a tarbaby.

[Kitsune]

So are you saying he fell into a big pot with tarr?
No. But I was raising the question wether Obama's degree of skin pigmentation is really worth all this 'cussing.

[Lt. James Anderson]

No. But I was raising the question wether Obama's degree of skin pigmentation is really worth all this 'cussing.

There are a lot of people who support him because of color of his skin, and that's a fact. Nothing wrong with it, imo. Just a fact.

[Bia]

If people are supporting him on skin color only.... it's has to be low numbers. I havnt heard of any such thing except here by his haters.

[Red]

There are a lot of people who support him because of color of his skin, and that's a fact. Nothing wrong with it, imo. Just a fact.
Do you know what some of does people look like or what communities they are in? Tell me please. Thanks!

[Lt. James Anderson]

If people are supporting him on skin color only.... it's has to be low numbers.

Every black person I talked to supports Obama and some whites I talked to said they want a black president. It has to be because of his policies.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Do you know what some of does people look like or what communities they are in? Tell me please. Thanks!

What do you mean "what they look like"? Those are the people I work with or go to school with. And random people who want to talk politics (WTF??) at the store/gas station etc.

[Red]

Every black person I talked to supports Obama and some whites I talked to said they want a black president. It has to be because of his policies.

Just as I expected. In that case, I think it is fair to say that McCain supporters are supporting him because he is White.

[Red]

What do you mean "what they look like"? Those are the people I work with or go to school with. And random people who want to talk politics (WTF??) at the store/gas station etc.

Yeah! Those same people who earlier this year were overwhelmingly supporting Hillary Clinton. Oh! Wait! Isn't Hillary black or am I going blind? Get the heck out of here with your low density brain. Talking like you now all of a sudden know the true motivation of most black people.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Just as I expected. In that case, I think it is fair to say that McCain supporters are supporting him because he is White.

OK. First of all I never claimed I conducted a scientific research. The sample is rather small (some 100+ people) and that's where I drew the conclusion out of. I never claimed I was right but that's just the impression I got. Either way I don't give a f... and either way most people (of any color) don't know sheet about politics.

[Lt. James Anderson]

Talking like you now all of a sudden know the true motivation of most black people.

Never claimed that. Again, that's just the impression I got based on my personal experiences.

[Red]

OK. First of all I never claimed I conducted a scientific research. The sample is rather small (some 100+ people) and that's where I drew the conclusion out of. I never claimed I was right but that's just the impression I got. Either way I don't give a f... and either way most people (of any color) don't know sheet about politics.
Blah! Blah! Blah! BS!

[Lt. James Anderson]

Blah! Blah! Blah! BS!

Whatever. As I already said I don't really care.

I'm out.

[Red]

Whatever. As I already said I don't really care.

I'm out.

Peace homie.

[BMUS]

Does he look white? I'm white, I have blonde hair and he looks nothing like me.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n210/rorylaster/1152825714-cracker1.jpg

[LineDoggie]

Whatever. As I already said I don't really care.

I'm out.
Dude hes just trolling, ignore him

[SBL]

Talking like you now all of a sudden know the true motivation of most black people.
Interesting you should say that. Are we to assume that you do? I mean, because you happen to be black?

[Red]

Dude hes just trolling, ignore him
It takes a troll to know one dog.


Interesting you should say that. Are we to assume that you do? I mean, because you happen to be black?

Nope! That's why I don't throw out stupid posts like the one he did. Very simple really.

[SBL]

Nope! That's why I don't throw out stupid posts like the one he did. Very simple really.

Just checking. Without explanation it could have been construed as such.

[California Joe]

I've been listening to a lot of Tupac lately just in case. Word.

[BMUS]

So according to some of you guys, america definitely isn't ready for a black president?

[EZFEED]

Never claimed that. Again, that's just the impression I got based on my personal experiences.

Here's an example....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=400_1225220767

[Deman]

So according to some of you guys, america definitely isn't ready for a black president? http://www.uploadthis.co.uk/uploads/sila/1225760712282.jpg

[Red]

Here's an example....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=400_1225220767

Have you ever heard of something called a low information voter? It's nice that Stern took the time to do this (and then put it out like this is how teh blacks think). The thing though is that the Right wing crowd is also full of these low information voter types and I'll let you in on a little secret......*they are white* as well.

Anything else?

[Red]

I've been listening to a lot of Tupac lately just in case. Word.

I've never really understood why people Tupac so much. I though he was pretty run of the mill save maybe two tracks. You need to get into some Electronica CJ.

[11 Bravo]

Have you ever heard of something called a low information voter? It's nice that Stern took the time to do this (and then put it out like this is how teh blacks think). The thing though is that the Right wing crowd is also full of these low information voter types and I'll let you in on a little secret......*they are white*.

Anything else?

Yes ; are you through being racist.

[LineDoggie]

Yes ; are you through being racist.
of course he isnt, trolls delight in this

[SBL]

-edit-

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n/m

[Red]

Yes ; are you through being racist.
Racism? where? Did you mean bigotry or xenophobia? How is it racist to point out that there are black and white low information voters? C'mon now, keep up.


of course he isnt, trolls delight in this
Fetch dog.

[CG51]

Have you ever heard of something called a low information voter? It's nice that Stern took the time to do this (and then put it out like this is how teh blacks think). The thing though is that the Right wing crowd is also full of these low information voter types and I'll let you in on a little secret......*they are white*.

Anything else?

dont be holdin back G, give us foos da skrate up dope. you bein in da know and shet, word

[Red]

dont be holdin back G, give us foos da skrate up dope. you bein in da know and shet, word

Stewie Griffin is my hero.

[EZFEED]

Oh no doubt, I agree with you there. I just find it amazing how frequent I find it to be with black voters.
I went to the courthouse today to pick up some sample ballots and had to wait in a line that ran out of the courthouse doors down the sidewalk and all the way down the block almost to the next corner and 99% of those early voters were black, me being the 1% at that particular time. I had listened to the Stern clip the night before last so I figured that while I was there I'd do a little investigating of my own and see where everyone stood. Out of the 18 people that I chatted with I found that only a few really even bothered to educate themselves on the issues and really had no opinion on taxes, the military, national security, abortion, etc. (answers were given but nothing firm and many seemed to not really care) For the most part it seemed that everyone there agreed that this was their opportunity to finally have a voice in power and someone in office they could relate too. Also a good percentage said they wouldn’t have come early if it weren't for the free transportation that was provided to them. Don’t know who was doing that but let it be known that in Lafayette LA they are offering a free ride to the poles to voters, don’t know if its only for a certain party or not.

I did run across one McCain voter in our little bunch who seemed pretty hot about the situation and didn't mind speaking up defiantly and proclaiming his vote. Pretty neat old guy, a Vietnam vet and served in the Marines, he wuz pretty cool and sure got riled up :D …..oh and he drove there too:)

Pretty neat day to say the least, that was fun despite having to wait and hour and a half just to get in.

[Red]

Oh no doubt, I agree with you there. I just find it amazing how frequent I find it to be with black voters.
I went to the courthouse today to pick up some sample ballots and had to wait in a line that ran out of the courthouse doors down the sidewalk and all the way down the block almost to the next corner and 99% of those early voters were black, me being the 1% at that particular time. I had listened to the Stern clip the night before last so I figured that while I was there I'd do a little investigating of my own and see where everyone stood. Out of the 18 people that I chatted with I found that only a few really even bothered to educate themselves on the issues and really had no opinion on taxes, the military, national security, abortion, etc. (answers were given but nothing firm and many seemed to not really care) For the most part it seemed that everyone there agreed that this was their opportunity to finally have a voice in power and someone in office they could relate too. Also a good percentage said they wouldn’t have come early if it weren't for the free transportation that was provided to them. Don’t know who was doing that but let it be known that in Lafayette LA they are offering a free ride to the poles to voters, don’t know if its only for a certain party or not.

I did run across one McCain voter in our little bunch who seemed pretty hot about the situation and didn't mind speaking up defiantly and proclaiming his vote. Pretty neat old guy, a Vietnam vet and served in the Marines, he wuz pretty cool and sure got riled up :D …..oh and he drove there too:)

Pretty neat day to say the least, that was fun despite having to wait and hour and a half just to get in.
I can't speak for where you're at but in the Greater Washington area(NOVA, DC, and MD), I find the opposite to be the case. What was even more astonishing to me was how young these folks were. Maybe where you are, folks are going to him for that but where I'm at most of the black folks I've interacted with like his position. (Except this church lady who is voting for McCain).
Why I said what I did earlier is because I keep hearing this same line of thinking which flies in the face of factual polling data from just a couple of months ago. Hillary Clinton (a white woman) was attracting black voters by a margin of almost 3 to 1 when compared to Obama. She held this huge lead over him for a WHILE until she (and Bill) began to drop a lot of verbal clangers. I never heard any of this crap when these black voters supported her. So I find it puzzling when this comes up all of a sudden for the black Obama voters but White McCain voters are somehow golden.

[LaoSexMachine]

Funny thing happened today. I was talking to a contractor that is working with us. He's black and he is voting for McCain. His words "Brotha's gonna fvck it up." I just smiled. I seriously don't know if he was joking or not. I iffy on both canidate since they are not really pro 2nd Amendment.

[Red]

Funny thing happened today. I was talking to a contractor that is working with us. He's black and he is voting for McCain. His words "Brotha's gonna fvck it up." I just smiled. I seriously don't know if he was joking or not. I iffy on both canidate since they are not really pro 2nd Amendment.

I know a black dude who told me he was voting Bob Barr....he was dead serious too. Just happy that many people are taking the time to vote for the respective candidates.

[CG51]

Red, what if Obama loses by just a tad. Is there going to be another Rodney King kinda thing >.< riots and such

[Bia]

Red, what if Obama loses by just a tad. Is there going to be another Rodney King kinda thing >.< riots and suchNo one rioted over Rodney King... they rioted because some cops were found not guilty.

I knew when I saw you had just posted in here.... you were going to say something stupid... I was right.

[Red]

Red, what if Obama loses by just a tad. Is there going to be another Rodney King kinda thing >.< riots and such
You should know better than trying to bait me bender.

[SBL]

You should know better than trying to bait me bender.

Do you not have an opinion?

[Red]

Do you not have an opinion?

I don't need to share an opinion on an extremely STUPID bait. However, I think there will be riots if the Golden Child doesn't survive Eddie Murphys' annoying laugh to lead the people of Tibet to the promised land.

[EZFEED]

I can't speak for where you're at but in the Greater Washington area(NOVA, DC, and MD), I find the opposite to be the case. What was even more astonishing to me was how young these folks were. Maybe where you are, folks are going to him for that but where I'm at most of the black folks I've interacted with like his position. (Except this church lady who is voting for McCain).
Why I said what I did earlier is because I keep hearing this same line of thinking which flies in the face of factual polling data from just a couple of months ago. Hillary Clinton (a white woman) was attracting black voters by a margin of almost 3 to 1 when compared to Obama. She held this huge lead over him for a WHILE until she (and Bill) began to drop a lot of verbal clangers. I never heard any of this crap when these black voters supported her. So I find it puzzling when this comes up all of a sudden for the black Obama voters but White McCain voters are somehow golden.

Might be just the case here then. Sadly LA does have a very high poverty and high school drop out rate and it really reflects in stuff like this. Allot of the youth here are the same on both sides, just defiant kids throwing their support behind either candidate and mouthing off without really knowing anything about the candidate they so rabidly support.

I dunno, it really pisses me off just how ignorant and lazy the American populous has become (both sides). Nothing is serious or sacred anymore, God forbid we take a little of our own time away from our personal schedule to learn a little about what’s going on.:cantbeli:

[LaoSexMachine]

I doubt any riots is going to happened. People and their paranoia. I like Obama but Cindy McCain would be the hotter First Lady.

[SBL]

-edit-

not worth it.

[EZFEED]

I don't need to share an opinion on an extremely STUPID bait. However, I think there will be riots if the Golden Child doesn't survive Eddie Murphys' annoying laugh to lead the people of Tibet to the promised land.

HA! I forgot all about that movie!
"row that ass"
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/6evon6edmonston6/munchkin/golden_child.jpg

[FlintHillBilly]

Sad but i bet alot of uneducated voters are like this lady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

[timetraveller]

As title,does Amercian people get ready to accept a black president?
Negroes once had very low status in US society, and sometime,there are still incidents happened concerning the Discrimination about blacks,at least that is a sign that there are still Exclusion about them,But now a people from that group is going to charge the whole country,


It has always been said that Teddy roosevelt was the first ... and anyhow what does it effing matter the colour of his skin ...

What matters most is doing the job he is voted in for .. and doin it well

[Red]

[QUOTE=willytee;3666197]Sad but i bet alot of uneducated voters are like this lady.

and this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/Bky2SGrmC8g

and this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/G9T0FI2axbU

and those ones
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/zRqcfqiXCX0

I guess this covers the general themes:
http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/06/17/the-daily-show-baracknophobia-the-irrational-fear-of-hope-is-spreading/

Good night.

[LineDoggie]

Just how many Race Cards come in a Deck? is it the standard 52?

Ah, well

[CG51]

.........................

[ren0312]

Ok one question I want to ask here, since hip hop and rap are so popular among blacks, why have not popular hip hop and rap stars like 50 cent, Akon and Kanye West played a more prominent part in Obama's campaign, considering the importance of hip hop and rap in Black culture, and Obama being part Black and all, or Obama making a guest appearance in a rap video or MTV rap show.

[Supe]

dude newsflash he's from Beijing so it is high prabability that he isn't yank and english isn't his native language he also said he is sorry erlier when his mistake was pointed

Schools in session. Pay attention. Look at the time he apologised and my post. A whopping 15mins separates Peter's post and mine. No-one had replied when when I first saw Peter's initial post. Of course I read the responses post reply but I could not be arsed editing my post. (and you can't delete them anwyay). I was gently alerting Peter that it wasn't the right word to use, not bashing him because english is not his first language. I know I would appreciate someone letting me know if I were using an inappropriate word had I been speaking another language. Is that ok with you?

[FlintHillBilly]

Red,

I was refering to the idea that alot of people seem to think Obama is going to save us. This lady aparently thinks she doesnt have to worry about her car payment and her house payment...Because if she helps him he will help her. It had nothing to do with any of your videos.

[CG51]

Heh, people that don't work for a living are going to the polls like they did for Jimmy Carter.

[XShipRider]

Ignorant voters come in all flavors.

I was impressed with the efficiency of the lines this year. The volunteers seemed to know what they were doing. Years past it did not run as smooth as this year.

I asked people while waiting in line today if they took the time to read through the issues before arriving at the polling locale. To a person they had all read the statewide issues. Bravo.

I did not ask them anything about candidates lest a hockey game break out.

[Jobu]

No one rioted over Rodney King... they rioted because some cops were found not guilty.



There will be a riot of a million little Bia's running around swinging handbags at people.

[Euroamerican]

There will be a riot of a million little Bia's running around swinging handbags at people.

THAT's what I'm worried about!!

[Red]

Just how many Race Cards come in a Deck? is it the standard 52?

Ah, well

You should know dog. You ate them all after they forgot to take you outside the house.

[Lau]

Heh, people that don't work for a living are going to the polls like they did for Jimmy Carter.

It's a disgrace! People who don't work for a living (and I don't give a **** why), should not be allowed to vote.

/sarcasm

[California Joe]

Ok one question I want to ask here, since hip hop and rap are so popular among blacks, why have not popular hip hop and rap stars like 50 cent, Akon and Kanye West played a more prominent part in Obama's campaign, considering the importance of hip hop and rap in Black culture, and Obama being part Black and all, or Obama making a guest appearance in a rap video or MTV rap show.

Because he's half black, not half retarded. He's not running his campaign as a black dude, he's running it as a Democrat. He's got enough trouble just going to church, let alone hanging out with a bunch of gangsta douchebags that have been shot whilst selling drugs and pimpin'.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I dunno about MP.net folks being ready for a non white Pres but I have been on Stormfront and these folks are just plain apoletic with rage at the thought of Obama being the Pres on Wednesday apparently the Black Panthers and
S1W are at the polls telling people to vote for Obama.

[LineDoggie]

I dont like Obama one bit, but that would be retarded from him to be having the likes of Fitty cent, et al campaigning for him.

Be like McCain having Screwdriver play at his appearances

[Laworkerbee]

Because he's half black, not half retarded. He's not running his campaign as a black dude, he's running it as a Democrat. He's got enough trouble just going to church, let alone hanging out with a bunch of gangsta douchebags that have been shot whilst selling drugs and pimpin'.

Need to save this as it is pure gold.

[shocker1]

I voted, for a white guy.

[Lau]

I voted, for a white guy.

And in the last elections, I assume you voted for the guy in your avatar. It is Mr. Bush right? ;)

woot

[shocker1]

No, yes, no

[Lau]

OK then... http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/a1429.gif

[Stonewall71]

No, the ones that voted for him are daltonic

[Bringer of Greater Things]

Are US citizens ready for the black president?


Why not? It worked in Blazing Saddles.

[SBL]

Why not? It worked in Blazing Saddles.
Nice one, Ahchoo.