Lynndie England May Be Bu$h-Cheney's Undoing

[OB Kenobi]

Heheheh, busted...

Soldier's defense team wants 100 witnesses from Cheney on down for Abu Graib case

By putting top government officials like Vice President **** Cheney on their witness list, England's attorneys are serving notice that in defending their client, they will attempt to put on trial the Bush administration's policies on intelligence gathering from detainees. Like most other military police reservists charged in the abuse scandal, England has claimed military intelligence officers ordered the MPs to "soften up" the detainees prior to interrogations.

An Army spokeswoman said last week that any military personnel chosen as witnesses by the investigating officer will be ordered to appear. Spokesmen for Cheney and the Defense Department did not return calls seeking comment.

Also on the witness list are 12 Abu Ghraib detainees, although what assistance they could provide in England's defense is unclear, other than if they would say she wasn't involved in any incidents involving them.

One of them, Abdou Hussain Saad Faleh, is identified in CID documents obtained by the Post-Gazette as the inmate in the iconic photo of the abuse scandal -- hooded, standing on a box and with wires attached to his fingers, toes and ***** -- after MPs told him he would be electrocuted if he stepped off.

Another detainee on the witness list, Abd Alwhab Youss, told CID investigators that after he was mistakenly identified as the owner of a broken toothbrush that could be used as a weapon, he was stripped and six unnamed guards poured cold water on him and "forced me to put my head in someone's urine," beat him with a broom, stepped on his head, spit on him and yelled at him with a loudspeaker for three hours.

Complete article:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04165/331166.stm

[dacanadianbomb]

Busted ?
Because he is being cited as a witness.
Uh so ?
If there is the ability to freely choose witnesses as wished, they could summone Kimmitt is they want.
Just because your accused doesnt auto-mean your guilty.

[molly747]

Either way, she seems like a dumb-ass, if you'll excuse me for saying. She got knocked up by her commanding officer.

[JiJoMacLE45]

You think Larry Flynt or Bob Guccioni will offer her a paycheck to **** up?

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Jeez I hope not. Woof. But if they did, the theme of the shoot would be a no-brainer. They could have all these naked guys forming human pyramids in the background.

Turn ons; **** human pyramids, plastic bags over the head, doggie leashes, pointing to genitals

Turn offs; photography, the press, civilized behavior.

Putting Vice President **** Cheney on the witness list...give me a break. May as well put the Queen of England & the Dali Lama on there - they've all got the same level of intimate knowledge of Abu Garib. The lawyer is just dong his job...trying to make the best tasting **** sandwich for his client.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

You think Larry Flynt or Bob Guccioni will offer her a paycheck to **** up?
Oh yeah its a definite, though I think they might go with an S & M theme for the shoot. :)

[chauncy republicans]

Everyone knows Cheney will never take the stand...
...he's got executive powers he can abuse...
...the ultimate trump card.

[Old300]

Everyone knows Cheney will never take the stand...
...he's got executive powers he can abuse...
...the ultimate trump card.

Bill Clinton had to testify in a deposition for a civil suit while he was President.

There is no executive privilege regarding this sort of thing.

[chauncy republicans]

Everyone knows Cheney will never take the stand...
...he's got executive powers he can abuse...
...the ultimate trump card.

Bill Clinton had to testify in a deposition for a civil suit while he was President.

There is no executive privilege regarding this sort of thing.
There isnt? Why didnt Cheney have to testify during the Enron trials and hearings? I might be a little confused. :)

[usa320]

This is hore****.

Shes in idiot.

[Old300]

Everyone knows Cheney will never take the stand...
...he's got executive powers he can abuse...
...the ultimate trump card.

Bill Clinton had to testify in a deposition for a civil suit while he was President.

There is no executive privilege regarding this sort of thing.
There isnt? Why didnt Cheney have to testify during the Enron trials and hearings? I might be a little confused. :)

There was no "Enron trial" involving the VP. Cheney did testify before the congressional committees investigating his energy commission dealings. The privilege issue involved with those meetings was whether or not the VP has to disclose confidential advice to the President.

One of the reasons why you haven't heard anything about any of this in a long time is because there is a bipartisan consensus that such advice should remain confidential.

If there were a civil suit, however (or if Congress were undertaking a criminal investigation pursuant to an impeachment process), and the trial judge deemed such documents and information material, then Cheney would have to turn them over and testify under oath and in public.

In passing, I'd just note that in the background to the Cheney energy commission saga is the issue of separation of powers and the inability of one branch of government to subpoena members of another under most circumstances.

In any event, again, an elected official is not immune from civil litigation.

[chauncy republicans]

Everyone knows Cheney will never take the stand...
...he's got executive powers he can abuse...
...the ultimate trump card.

Bill Clinton had to testify in a deposition for a civil suit while he was President.

There is no executive privilege regarding this sort of thing.
There isnt? Why didnt Cheney have to testify during the Enron trials and hearings? I might be a little confused. :)

There was no "Enron trial" involving the VP. Cheney did testify before the congressional committees investigating his energy commission dealings. The privilege issue involved with those meetings was whether or not the VP has to disclose confidential advice to the President.

One of the reasons why you haven't heard anything about any of this in a long time is because there is a bipartisan consensus that such advice should remain confidential.

If there were a civil suit, however (or if Congress were undertaking a criminal investigation pursuant to an impeachment process), and the trial judge deemed such documents and information material, then Cheney would have to turn them over and testify under oath and in public.

In passing, I'd just note that in the background to the Cheney energy commission saga is the issue of separation of powers and the inability of one branch of government to subpoena members of another under most circumstances.

In any event, again, an elected official is not immune from civil litigation.
Thank you, good man. :D

[chauncy republicans]

This is hore****.

Shes in idiot.
She's also uglier than a horses ass.

[Laworkerbee]

Its all bull**** either way you cut it

she is looking for a life line, a way out, typical blame game

but it all comes down to this, she has the right to disobey an illegal order if she was given one, her and her boyfriend were both sadists and they deserve to do some time for what they have done