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06-14-2004, 01:28 PM
which desert pattern is in your opinion is the best adaptated to arrid landscape?[/img][/quote]

Frens
06-14-2004, 01:52 PM
marpat/cadpat works well ;)

Howitz
06-14-2004, 02:41 PM
god, how many times are people going to do this, from the very first page of militarymorons....
ATTENTION! PLEASE DO NOT LINK DIRECTLY TO MY IMAGES -
IT RESULTS IN MY BANDWIDTH ALLOCATIONS BEING EXCEEDED,
AND MY PAGES GO DOWN. THANKS!
:backhand:

and my vote goes to tropentarn or either of the digitals

Falco
06-14-2004, 02:42 PM
http://www.combatcamera.dnd.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212004/050704/IS2004-2066a%20copy.jpg

Digital camouflage works well

Frens
06-14-2004, 03:09 PM
ATTENTION! PLEASE DO NOT LINK DIRECTLY TO MY IMAGES -

sorry mate :oops:

MVSpartan117
06-14-2004, 03:42 PM
take it out of your post!

Dalleer
06-15-2004, 06:03 AM
Well, as I've said before, patterns that have smaller spots etc. in them tend to have a small advantage in them compared to the ones that have bigger "forms" in the design.

So, desert MARPAT and/or the German Tropentarn is what I'd pick.

scm77
06-15-2004, 12:11 PM
I think Cadpat or Marpat work the best.

ZeroPositive
06-15-2004, 12:49 PM
Yeah I would go for either MARPAT OR CADPAT...

Claymore
06-15-2004, 01:18 PM
Tropentarn.

http://www.flecktarn.co.uk/graphics/gallery/pictures/flecktarn70.jpg

mack pl
06-15-2004, 04:52 PM
New polish desert "Pantera"(this more dark version)
Why?
Why not ;)

PS. I like Italian desert BDU :)

Far
06-15-2004, 05:04 PM
Tropentarn rules.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:2YbS1pEMBnwJ:www.ironwolfent.com/graphics/product1163_thumbnail.jpg

Frens
06-16-2004, 04:50 AM
PS. I like Italian desert BDU :)

me too woot

http://www.lagunari.it/CHUCK%203.jpg

Bright Star 97:
Pic with General Charles Krulak (USMC). On the right ten. Col. Emilio MOTOLESE comandante IT AMPH FOR, on the left 1° CM Domenico CASACCIO.

ShadowNeo
06-16-2004, 08:28 AM
Go Brit Desert DPM!

http://www.photos.mod.uk/lowres/45142/45142627.jpg

Lt_Crooks
06-16-2004, 12:44 PM
Tropentarn...those germans now what they are doing. The whole world is converting now to , digital camo or dot-camo, the most effective ones. I think the phillipinos have their own version of marpat

rob
06-16-2004, 05:43 PM
Tropentarn.

http://www.flecktarn.co.uk/graphics/gallery/pictures/flecktarn70.jpg

actually i thinkthe germans are switching their desert pattern because the current one wasnt preforming. it has less green suposedly. im going of the top of my head but i remember reading this.

catalyst
06-16-2004, 10:29 PM
now are we discussing arid? or desert? because they are two different areas!

AUSCAM works wonders in a arid environment, The new desert AUSCAM seems to work well in the desert environment.

here is AUSCAM in a arid environment:
http://www.army.gov.au/pilbara/gallery/images/Patrolling_jpg.jpg

and in a desert environment:
http://www.defence.gov.au/opbastille/images/gallery/C0303512.jpg

talib_killa34
06-16-2004, 11:39 PM
(Dude, that's a huge picture! ;) )

My favorite is still the three-color BDU just because of how well it looks with full kit on and it seems to look just fine even with a woodland IBA.

But best practical and almost invisible when in Iraq and parts of Afghanistan are the CADPAT and MARPAT patterns.

I had always wondered why in the 1980's the army went with such a bad choice for "desert" cammo with the introduction of the 6 color.

I see why it went after only one war, but recently moving up to the california desert, there's a lot of brush and that seems to be an ideal environment for that particular camm.

I guess fighting it out in the mojave desert seemed more realistic than fighting a war in the Kuwait/Iraq sands then?

Just a thought. ;)

Falco
06-17-2004, 10:27 AM
now are we discussing arid? or desert? because they are two different areas!

AUSCAM works wonders in a arid environment, The new desert AUSCAM seems to work well in the desert environment.

here is AUSCAM in a arid environment:
http://www.army.gov.au/pilbara/gallery/images/Patrolling_jpg.jpg

and in a desert environment:
http://www.defence.gov.au/opbastille/images/gallery/C0303512.jpg

Does Australia have a temperate version of AUSCAM?

catalyst
06-17-2004, 11:00 AM
AUSCAM is AUSCAM......we only have a desert version which is in very minimal issue at the moment and the AUSCAM issue. As far as i know, those in the Mid East and in some units in the desert are issued DESERT AUSCAM. Michael RVR would be able to add more to this. Yet he is only a Reserve digger.

Dutchman2
06-17-2004, 12:42 PM
That German Desert flacktarn has alot of green in it. I wondered myself why, when I saw it the first time. But looking at the tree guy's, it can break the shape very good. Proberly that's why the used so much "green'. And maybe to make it work on different continents.

I think that the MARPAD and CADPAD works the best. Pesonaly I love CADPAT the most. But that German pattern looks also awesome.

sethen
06-17-2004, 06:08 PM
"Dutchman2" That German Desert flacktarn has alot of green in it. I wondered myself why, when I saw it the first time. But looking at the tree guy's, it can break the shape very good. Proberly that's why the used so much "green'. And maybe to make it work on different continents.

The new Wustentarn pattern has the green completely removed, I think. Its a lot like the 3-desert U.S. pattern. I like the Tropentarn best of the two though.

I love the desert Marpat, I hate the new Army pattern. Toooooo much grey!!!!

rob
06-17-2004, 06:15 PM
[quote=Dutchman2]That German Desert flacktarn has alot of green in it. I wondered myself why, when I saw it the first time. But looking at the tree guy's, it can break the shape very good. Proberly that's why the used so much "green'. And maybe to make it work on different continents.

The new Wustentarn pattern has the green completely removed, I think. Its a lot like the 3-desert U.S. pattern. I like the Tropentarn best of the two though.

I love the desert Marpat, I hate the new Army pattern. Toooooo much grey!!!!

there is no grey in the army pattern to my knowledge. its the camera that makes it look that way, but the actual pattern has a lot of green in it.
http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/2004/06/newacu.jpg
the green shows up much better in the video.

Scaar.at
06-18-2004, 07:37 AM
I also think the desert CADPAT/MARPAT works best in the desert. And as a bonus, it looks good ;)

Teh Little Space Monkeh
06-21-2004, 11:47 PM
Ok, they GREY was a show off pattern, the Green is the Woodland Camo and the Desert Camo (which resembles MARPAT) is Brown/Tan. Let's just get that staight.
I've heard from a few people who have these and they say they work great. I don't understand why people want the Old Three-Color back, It sticks out like a sore thumb. And trust me, In the woods this thing is horrible, yet it never mattered anyway, the BDU stuck out just as bad.

RS_Leo1A5
06-24-2004, 03:59 PM
actually i thinkthe germans are switching their desert pattern because the current one wasnt preforming. it has less green suposedly. im going of the top of my head but i remember reading this.
I remember seeing a picture once - IIRC the new German desert camo consists of only two colors: sand and a very light red.

Marsuitor
06-24-2004, 04:25 PM
Pretty good ones IMO.
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~tomaslh/g36tan.jpg
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~tomaslh/altannet/hkpic.jpg

Vintendo
06-24-2004, 07:33 PM
Well not all deserts are the same. So some desert patterns suit certain types of deserts.

ZeroPositive
06-25-2004, 06:06 AM
Hey the photo of those German soldiers in desert cam is from www.flecktarn.co.uk ..... so they aren't even bloody soldiers...

pretorian669
06-25-2004, 09:28 AM
actually i thinkthe germans are switching their desert pattern because the current one wasnt preforming. it has less green suposedly. im going of the top of my head but i remember reading this.
I remember seeing a picture once - IIRC the new German desert camo consists of only two colors: sand and a very light red.

It's not 2 color...
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/BW_desert_BDU.jpg

pretorian669
06-25-2004, 09:41 AM
Hey the photo of those German soldiers in desert cam is from www.flecktarn.co.uk ..... so they aren't even bloody soldiers...
So what?It's still Tropentarn .What does it matter who wears it.
Not bad in Arid area...
http://www.flecktarn.co.uk/graphics/gallery/pictures/flecktarn73.jpg

Here's a nice one.Compare the camo to the background...
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/MG43PILE.jpg

pretorian669
06-25-2004, 10:14 AM
The new Italian digital desert camo is nice
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/NEWITALIANDIGITALDESERT.jpg

And I LOVE the San Marco Desert Camo!
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/San_Marco_Desert_Camo.jpg

pretorian669
06-25-2004, 10:26 AM
Here's some new Israeli desert paterns.

http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/ISRAELI%20CAMO/1Stone_Desert_Camo_Cordura_closeup.jpg
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/ISRAELI%20CAMO/1Stone_Desert_Camo.jpg
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/ISRAELI%20CAMO/1Rock_Desert_Camo_mesh_closeup.jpg
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/ISRAELI%20CAMO/1Rock_Desert_Camo_Cordura_closeup.jpg
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/ISRAELI%20CAMO/1Rock_Desert_Camo.jpg

And some older paterns.

http://community.webshots.com/s/image1/4/64/32/130046432EUTasI_ph.jpg
http://community.webshots.com/s/image11/4/66/73/130046673QxyXEc_ph.jpg
http://community.webshots.com/s/image8/4/63/71/130046371wdRwDq_ph.jpg
Link to more Israeli camo:
http://community.webshots.com/album/130033958VSzrtU

RS_Leo1A5
06-25-2004, 03:05 PM
It's not 2 color...
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v34/pretorian669/BW_desert_BDU.jpg
Ah, that's the picture I was speaking of.
I see I remembered it wrong.

Kitsune
06-25-2004, 04:56 PM
@zeropositive:

From Flecktarn or not, the picture rob posted, the one with the 3 hooded and tropentarned soldiers, shows, as far as I know, German Fallschirmjäger. It was taken during an exercise in egypt.