7 Teens Savagely Attack 2 Latino Men, Murdering 1

[Ghelp]

http://www.youtube.com/v/Xc8JxOJZYV0


PATCHOGUE, N.Y. (CBS) ― It's a crime making national headlines; Seven Suffolk County teenagers charged in a brutal apparent hate-crime killing in east Patchogue will be arraigned on Monday.

They drove the streets, according to Suffolk County Police, looking for trouble. And late Saturday night, seven teenagers found it.

[superbuzzmetal]

A hate crime on latinos by black and white people,sounds kinda weird doesn't it ?

[LineDoggie]

Not for NYC and Long Island. On Long Island especially, there has been an upsurge in incidents. Large Illegal Alien community's and MS-13 gangs have created Backlashes. This Poor guy just happened to be in the wrong place while these filth were out looking for trouble. By the way, poor guy WASNT an Illegal.http://www.newsday.com/news/local/crime/ny-livict1111,0,4715119.story

[p$ycho+log!cal]

what a bunch of faggets, i cant stand gang bangin 10vs1 , u can be what ever ****ing colour u want u deserve to die to do that kind of thing.
i bet these guys got their ass beat by a couple of latino thugs now they pick random latinos and kill em? doesnt work that way

hang em high.

[Macs.]

A hate crime on latinos by black and white people,sounds kinda weird doesn't it ?

I think the term "hate crime" alone sounds weird. Political correctness gone wrong. Yeah, a hate crime, no **** they didn't do it out of love.

[LineDoggie]

A hate crime on latinos by black and white people,sounds kinda weird doesn't it ?
BTW, we have white kids here who are members of the Bloods gang, Go Figure :roll: Little crackheads two houses down are Black, White, Asian. And they fight MS-13 Latinos.

[LineDoggie]

I think the term "hate crime" alone sounds weird. Political correctness gone wrong. Yeah, a hate crime, no **** they didn't do it out of love. Guy was targeted because of who he was, long history of things like that.

[toki]

what a bunch of faggets, i cant stand gang bangin 10vs1 , u can be what ever ****ing colour u want u deserve to die to do that kind of thing.
i bet these guys got their ass beat by a couple of latino thugs now they pick random latinos and kill em? doesnt work that way

hang em high.

Aren't there enough latinos in the prisons? Now with their faces known... Just saying.

[CG51]

Hate crime, what an idiotic term.

Remember, if you are going to kill someone, you better make sure that they are the same color as you.

[Military-G]

I hope all 7 of them get what they did done back to them in prison. Losers like this dont deserve life. 7 on 2 and for no reason is so pathetic ... f*cking vermin need death.

[Ordie]

Very tragic.

My prayers and sympathy to the victims and thier families.

I sincerely hope some good will come out of this.

Rest in peace.

[IraGlacialis]

R.I.P. and hope the other guy get's better.

Those brats are disgusting filth that should be put in a prison with a bunch of Latino convicts who heard the news.

[Hollis]

Hate crime, what an idiotic term.

Remember, if you are going to kill someone, you better make sure that they are the same color as you.


Actually there is a reason for it, It does sound weird if you don't know the reason.

It is used to add additional punishment to the offense. It is designed to be a deterrent to racial crimes.

This is done on other crimes too, to add additional penalties/jail time to the crime. Like Burglary 1 and Burglary 2. Or assault and assault with a weapon.

[Carib]

I hope these punk kids get whats coming to them, we don't need trash like that in our society.

[Sinaloense]

Not for NYC and Long Island. On Long Island especially, there has been an upsurge in incidents. Large Illegal Alien community's and MS-13 gangs have created Backlashes. This Poor guy just happened to be in the wrong place while these filth were out looking for trouble. By the way, poor guy WASNT an Illegal.http://www.newsday.com/news/local/crime/ny-livict1111,0,4715119.story
Then why didn't they go pick a fight with some MS 13 gang bangers?

[LineDoggie]

Then why didn't they go pick a fight with some MS 13 gang bangers?

Because like typical thugs, they attack the unarmed, it's easier

[Bia]

If this is newsworthy and postworthy... I can find 10 storys a week like this. They would likely have graphic video/images too.

:P

[szr]

Rest In Peace.

Hopefully the lives of those responsible are, for practical purposes of dreams, plans and ambitions, over. Zero tolerance for this kind of thing.


Then why didn't they go pick a fight with some MS 13 gang bangers?Because they'd get hosed by the real thing.

[LineDoggie]

Because they'd get hosed by the real thing. Yup.......................

[Createdeemcee]

BTW, we have white kids here who are members of the Bloods gang, Go Figure :roll: Little crackheads two houses down are Black, White, Asian. And they fight MS-13 Latinos.

Man those guys must be everywhere, a few ms13 guys just shot up one of the local bars in my area, It was a drive by haizing and the even shot a little girl in the shin. I hope the Scrap all those Fvcks!

[Ghelp]

It seems these teens had nothing better else to do then ride around and look for people who looked like Latinos.Altough that is dumb as hell since any one of them including the black boy can be Latinos/Hispanic since it is a cultural identity not racial.

[A Random Floridian]

Scum like this dont deserve to walk the earth.

[Lokos]

Man those guys must be everywhere, a few ms13 guys just shot up one of the local bars in my area, It was a drive by haizing and the even shot a little girl in the shin. I hope the Scrap all those Fvcks!

Where's Vic Mackey when we need him?

In all seriousness, it takes a special kind of lowlife to do the above.

L.

[LaoSexMachine]

This shyt happens all the time.

[The Balkan]

It seems these teens had nothing better else to do then ride around and look for people who looked like Latinos.Altough that is dumb as hell since any one of them including the black boy can be Latinos/Hispanic since it is a cultural identity not racial.

They wanted someone who looked "Mexican" specificly. Or at least what Mexican looks like in their mind.

[WarriorMonk]

Take their skulls for the skull throne!

[Blue_0]

A mixed race gang committing racist voilence? Bizzare.

I do hope they are prosicuted to the full extent of the law.

[CG51]

Actually there is a reason for it, It does sound weird if you don't know the reason.

It is used to add additional punishment to the offense. It is designed to be a deterrent to racial crimes.

This is done on other crimes too, to add additional penalties/jail time to the crime. Like Burglary 1 and Burglary 2. Or assault and assault with a weapon.

http://www.youtube.com/v/whUrp-bDxGw

[Dragunov]

A few moths ago another group of anglo-american High School kids killed a Mexico born man in the USA. Seems like TV/Hollywood is doing a good job portraying Hispanics as an easy target/joke type of thing.

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August 5, 2008
Mexican’s Death Bares a Town’s Ethnic Tension

By SEAN D. HAMILL
SHENANDOAH, Pa. — Crystal Dillman knows that four teenagers have been charged in the death of her fiancé, Luis Ramirez, that the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department is monitoring the case and that most people in this small town in the Appalachian Mountains believe it was a horrible crime.

But Ms. Dillman, the mother of Mr. Ramirez’s two young children, is not sure justice will prevail.

“I think they might get off,” she said of the four teenagers, “because Luis was an illegal Mexican and these are ‘all-American boys’ on the football team who get good grades, or whatever they’re saying about them. They’ll find some way to let them go.”

The case has raised similar concerns among Latinos across the country.

“For many Latinos, this is a case of enough is enough,” said Gladys Limón, a staff lawyer for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. “And it can help us get attention to the wider issue that this is happening all over the country, not just to illegal immigrants, but legal, and anyone who is perceived to be Latino.”

Mr. Ramirez, 25, who had been in the country illegally for six years, picking crops and working in factories, died July 14 from head injuries received two days earlier.

Investigators said he had gotten into a fight with a group of teenage boys — most or all of them members of the town’s high school football team, the Blue Devils — who left him unconscious in a residential street, foaming at the mouth.

Exactly what happened during the fight is still hotly debated on Internet message boards in Shen’doh, as the town is called, with some saying it was just a street fight that went bad, and others claiming the teenagers singled out a Mexican immigrant for a beating and made anti-Mexican remarks.

Since Mr. Ramirez’s death, this town of 5,600 has been bitterly divided over the case, illuminating ethnic tensions that surprised town leaders.

“I’ve heard things like, ‘We don’t want to send our kids back to school because we’re afraid people don’t like Mexicans,’ ” Mayor Thomas O’Neill said. “That’s shocking to me. That is not the Shenandoah I know.”

Prosecutors have charged Brandon Piekarski, 16, and Collin Walsh, 17, with homicide, ethnic intimidation and other counts in adult court, though their lawyers are trying to have the case moved to juvenile court.

Derrick Donchak, 18, was charged with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and other counts, including providing liquor to the other boys on the night of the confrontation. All were members of the football team; Mr. Donchak was its starting quarterback.

A 17-year-old, whose name has not been released, was charged in juvenile court with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and other charges.

They have all pleaded not guilty.

After anthracite coal was discovered near the town in the late 1800s, immigrants poured in, mainly from Europe. The hamlet grew to a borough of 25,000 before the mines started to close. The immigrant groups largely got along, but they also felt the need to ethnically divide not just their churches — some of which are still considered “the Italian church” or “the Irish church” — but also the town’s volunteer fire companies.

The town’s biggest festival every year is Heritage Days near the end of August, when the major ethnic groups, among them the Lithuanians, Irish, Italians, Greeks and, more recently, Mexicans, put floats in a parade and sell ethnic food from booths.

Mr. Ramirez’s death has also reignited a regional debate over immigration that began two years ago when the town of Hazleton, about 20 miles from Shenandoah, enacted an ordinance that sought to discourage people from hiring or renting to illegal immigrants.

At the time, Shenandoah, whose Hispanic population has grown to about 10 percent, from 2.8 percent in 2000, considered a similar ordinance but held off after Hazleton was sued.

Even then, there were signs of tension. After the debate over the Hazleton ordinance, Shenandoah’s Mexican community pulled out of Heritage Days in 2006.

“They just didn’t feel comfortable then,” said Flor Gomez, whose family runs a Mexican restaurant in town.

Many people believe the debate fueled by Hazleton’s actions helped create the environment that led to Mr. Ramirez’s death.

“Clearly there were a lot of factors here,” said Ms. Limón, of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, which has been helping Ms. Dillman. “But I do believe that the inflammatory rhetoric in the immigration debate does have a correlation with increased violence against Latinos.”

Hazleton’s mayor, Lou Barletta, said he saw no connection to his town’s ordinance, which was scrapped after the town lost a court battle.

“It’s a tragedy what happened to that man,” Mr. Barletta said. “But I don’t believe our ordinance had anything to do with it. Every person is responsible for their own actions.”

James P. Goodman, the Schuylkill County district attorney, who is prosecuting the case, said ethnic intimidation cases were rare in his county.

But town leaders have now heard about a number of incidents from Mexican residents that were never reported. The town is trying to reach out to them, said Mayor O’Neill, who said he still could not believe the fear some residents had expressed to him.

“How it came to that point, I don’t know,” he said. “But maybe these are things that it is good that it came out.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/05/us/05attack.html

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