View Full Version : French official:Vladimir Putin 'wanted to hang Saakashvili by the balls
Afro-European
11-13-2008, 05:18 PM
Nicolas Sarkozy saved the President of Georgia from a threat by Vladimir Putin to depose him from power and "hang him by the balls," according to an account that emerged today from the Elysée Palace.
The Russian Prime Minister told Mr Sarkozy of his plans for deposing the Tbilisi government and disposing of President Saakashvili when the French leader was in Moscow last August to broker a cease-fire in Georgia.
Jean-David Levitte, Mr Sarkozy's chief diplomatic adviser, reported the exchange in a magazine today ahead of an EU-Russia summit in Nice tomorrow chaired by the French leader and President Medvedev.
With Russian tanks only 30 miles from Tbilisi on August 12, Mr Sarkozy told Mr Putin that the world would not accept the overthrow of Georgia, Mr Levitte said.
"I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls," Mr Putin replied.
Mr Sarkozy responded: "Hang him?"
"Why not? The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein," said Mr Putin.
Mr Sarkozy replied, using the familiar "tu": "Yes but do you want to end up like (President) Bush?"
Mr Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: "Ah, you have scored a point there."
President Mikhail Saakashvili, who was in Paris to meet Mr Sarkozy today, laughed nervously when a French radio station read him the exchange. "I knew about this scene, but not all the details. It's funny, all the same," said the Georgian President.
Mr Putin's reported remarks appear to confirm that he was calling the shots in Moscow and not President Medvedev, who was Mr Sarkozy's host at the Kremlin meeting.
The language was in keeping with Mr Putin's fondness for coarse imagery.
In 1999, he vowed to chase down Chechen separatists when they were on the lavatory. "We will rub them out in their s*** houses," he said. In Brussels in 2002 he threatened a French journalist with circumcision, remarks that the news conference interpreter failed to translate. "I will recommend that they carry out the operation in such a way that nothing grows back," he added.
Mr Sarkozy's team leaked the Kremlin exchange to bolster their claim that the President's intervention saved Georgia. They want to counter charges that he ceded too much in Europe's name by accepting the Russian annexation of the breakaway provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
President Saakashvili denounced Mr Sarkozy for that today, saying that Europe's acquiescence over Georgia was identical to its surrender to Adolf Hitler in Munich in 1938 after the German occupation of Czechoslovakia. "I never imagined a few months ago that I would be saying such things but unfortunately those are the facts," said Mr Saakashvili.
Mr Sarkozy, who is under fire for his cosy relations with the two Russian leaders, hit back with sarcasm and an attack on President Bush for his supposed impotence towards Russia. Mr Bush had telephoned him and urged him repeatedly not to fly to Moscow to negotiate a ceasefire, he said.
"When someone had to leave for Moscow or Tbilisi, who defended human rights?" Mr Sarkozy asked. "Was it the President of the United States who said: 'This is unacceptable'? Or was it France which kept up the dialogue? We were in Moscow and, as if by chance, the ceasefire was announced."
Mr Sarkozy was speaking after receiving an annual Political Courage Prize from a French review.
Mr Sarkozy, who is reaching the end of France's six-month turn in the EU presidency, has led the Union move to re-open full relations with Moscow after a freeze following the Georgia invasion.
Mr Medvedev praised Mr Sarkozy in warm terms today. "I want to pay tribute to the efforts of President Sarkozy in reinforcing relations between the EU and Russia," he said.
In a gesture towards the United States, Mr Medvedev said that Moscow was ready to reverse its decision last week to base missiles in the western Russian enclave of Kaliningrad in response to President Bush's deployment of anti-missile system in central Europe.
"We are ready to abandon that decision... if the new American administration... decides to abandon its anti-missile system," he told le Figaro newspaper. Of Barack Obama, the President-elect, he said: "We hope to build frank and honest relations and resolve with the new administration the problems that we have not managed to resolve with the present one."
"Great confidence is being placed in the new American president. He has been elected in a very complicated time and I wish him a lot of luck in his post."
Moscow is blowing both hot and cold towards Europe this week, just as it did in the days of the cold war. While Mr Medvedev was being friendly, Mr Putin threatened on Wednesday to scrap a planned pipeline that would take Russian gas under the Baltic to Germany. The project has hit opposition from critics who worry that the continent is becoming too reliant on Russian energy. "Europe must decide whether it needs this pipeline or not," Mr Putin told Matti Vanhanen, the Finnish Prime Minister, at a meeting in Moscow.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5147422.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1
I always knew that Putin hates Saakashvili to death by hang him by his balls?
Mr Sarkozy replied, using the familiar "tu": "Yes but do you want to end up like (President) Bush?"
I wonder how is Bush gonna end up,according to Sarkozy?
Mu-Meson
11-13-2008, 05:32 PM
And Bush is the cowboy? Ha.
No doubt Putie would hang him by his balls, tying the rope himself, while not wearing a shirt, and then go and wrestle a tiger for fun.
User_Name
11-13-2008, 06:28 PM
And Bush is the cowboy? Ha.
No doubt Putie would hang him by his balls, tying the rope himself, while not wearing a shirt, and then go and wrestle a tiger for fun.
What scares me, he would do that. And the hardest thing to do is to put down his shirt:)
Putin STRONG>>>>Chuck Norris WEAK!!!!!
Hmm the weight of his body hanging by his balls would seperate from
the rest of him.
I probably could have worded that in another way.
stef063
11-13-2008, 11:32 PM
Heard that this morning on a radio talk (France Inter). The interesting thing : Sakashvili was the guest.
Journalist : You knew that ?
S. : Yes
J : Does it scare you ?
S : No, I find it quit funny indeed
"I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls," Mr Putin replied.
Mr Sarkozy responded: "Hang him?"
"Why not? The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein," said Mr Putin.
Mr Sarkozy replied, using the familiar "tu": "Yes but do you want to end up like (President) Bush?"
Mr Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: "Ah, you have scored a point there."
haha, humorous.
Meatwad
11-13-2008, 11:47 PM
Putins humor strong!
goat89
11-13-2008, 11:50 PM
Damn... told you he was badass.
sektor
11-14-2008, 01:00 AM
lol "podvesit' za yayca" hahaha
Holycrusader
11-14-2008, 02:39 AM
Now I understand why Sakashwili eat his tie.
Telmar
11-14-2008, 03:02 AM
Sarko talks too much. But you have got to hand it to him. He is quite a pragmatic. Fair to say that his diplomacy gave Georgia a chance.
Thanks Afro-European for this article.
ayanami_tard
11-14-2008, 07:12 AM
Putin STRONG!!!!!
lawl:)
Deurzakker
11-14-2008, 08:07 AM
Good read, thanks.
domark3
11-14-2008, 08:15 AM
Does anybody really belive in what was taken from tet-a-tet conversation of two leaders? That must be rather classified details, if not a fake. I think it's a journalist's dream. But what for - it's another question.
In 1999, he vowed to chase down Chechen separatists when they were on the lavatory. "We will rub them out in their s*** houses," he said.
Actually, it was more along the lines of: "If we find terrorists abroad, that is were we'll kill them. If we find them in our own country, they die there. If we wind them in the ****house, we'll drown them in their own feces."
Interesting guy.
Mousepad
11-14-2008, 10:05 AM
Actually, it was more along the lines of: "If we find terrorists abroad, that is were we'll kill them. If we find them in our own country, they die there. If we wind them in the ****house, we'll drown them in their own feces."
Interesting guy.
The thing is - He have a strong tendency to stick to his promises. And lately i find myself supporting him, and that, scares the living sh/t out of me.
a_very_ex_STAB
11-14-2008, 10:16 AM
Actually, it was more along the lines of: "If we find terrorists abroad, that is were we'll kill them. If we find them in our own country, they die there. If we wind them in the ****house, we'll drown them in their own feces."
Interesting guy.
Yeah I'm sure Putin was a real hard case in his day in the KGB.....
....as long as his 'opponent' was securely restrained in an interrogation room :roll:
Stefan850
11-14-2008, 10:29 AM
Yeah I'm sure Putin was a real hard case in his day in the KGB.....
....as long as his 'opponent' was securely restrained in an interrogation room :roll:
Knew this was coming. Relax friend, no one is forcing you to like the guy (like I do). No need to make arguments using something you think happened or didnt happen or whatever (for example if putin was a real hard case or not) someone will reply how and why he was and that person wont know that either and this funny thread will be destroyed when you start arguing about stuff you both imageined in your heads.
And also, it's stupid.
Afro-European
11-14-2008, 10:39 AM
Does anybody really belive in what was taken from tet-a-tet conversation of two leaders? That must be rather classified details, if not a fake. I think it's a journalist's dream. But what for - it's another question.
Putin dislikes Saakashivili so much that it's possible he did say that.Btw Putin is a black-belt in Judo,so Saaka wouldn't stand a chance in a real life fight anyway.:)
Afro-European
11-14-2008, 11:12 AM
Double post.Deleted.
domark3
11-14-2008, 12:52 PM
Putin and Saaka dislike each other so much that it's possible that Putin did say that.Btw Putin is a black-belt in Judo.So in a real life fight,Saaka wouldn't stand a chance anyway:).
That's the point. I was just writing about deviations around "POSSIBLE" and real conversation (and nobody knows what were the real words during the meeting)... so, I keep thinking people here discussing things and only assuming while the truth is not determined yet.
tea drinker
11-14-2008, 03:31 PM
That's the point. I was just writing about deviations around "POSSIBLE" and real conversation (and nobody knows what were the real words during the meeting)... so, I keep thinking people here discussing things and only assuming while the truth is not determined yet.
Exactly - but it is a funny story p-)
Even a little bit believable..... I mean look at the guys expression...
Xaito
11-14-2008, 04:09 PM
Exactly - but it is a funny story p-)
Even a little bit believable..... I mean look at the guys expression...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=60942&d=1226694679
Putin:...and then I said to him "I'll hang him by the balls"
Medvedev: hehehehe
lightfire
11-14-2008, 06:03 PM
Politics: serious buisness.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02hGfh34kZ2Gi/610x.jpg
Cornerstone
11-15-2008, 01:04 AM
What do you expect... Hes KGB
eskachig
11-15-2008, 02:31 AM
Yeah I'm sure Putin was a real hard case in his day in the KGB.....
....as long as his 'opponent' was securely restrained in an interrogation room :roll:Oh yeah, foreign intelligence officers were torturing folks left and right in the 80's :roll:
This is just pointless trolling.
a_very_ex_STAB
11-15-2008, 04:41 AM
Oh yeah, foreign intelligence officers were torturing folks left and right in the 80's :roll:
This is just pointless trolling.
And as you were in nappies at the time what the fcuk would you know about it?
Karry
11-15-2008, 04:55 AM
And as you were in nappies at the time what the fcuk would you know about it?
From your remark, may we all assume here, that YOU personally were present in such a room at the time when a torture was being executed ? Perhaps as a prisoner ? Or maybe as an overseer ? Which is it ?
From your remark, may we all assume here, that YOU personally were present in such a room at the time when a torture was being executed ? Perhaps as a prisoner ? Or maybe as an overseer ? Which is it ?
chill man. VES is just a teenager making piles of poo in most of threads with word Russia in title.
Peris
11-15-2008, 06:47 PM
repost?
Nicolas Sarkozy saved the President of Georgia from being hanged "by the balls" --rofl a threat made last summer by Vladimir Putin, according to an account that emerged yesterday from the Elysee Palace.
The Russian Prime Minister had revealed his plans for disposing of Mr Saakashvili when Mr Sarkozy was in Moscow in August to broker a ceasefire in Georgia.
Jean-David Levitte, Mr Sarkozy's chief diplomatic adviser, reported the exchange in a news magazine before an EU-Russia summit today. The meeting will be chaired by the French leader and President Medvedev.
With Russian tanks only 30 miles from Tbilisi on August 12, Mr Sarkozy told Mr Putin that the world would not accept the overthrow of Georgia's Government. According to Mr Levitte, the Russian seemed unconcerned by international reaction. "I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls," Mr Putin declared.
Mr Sarkozy thought he had misheard. "Hang him?" -- he asked. "Why not?" Mr Putin replied. "The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein."
Mr Sarkozy, using the familiar tu, tried to reason with him: "Yes but do you want to end up like [President] Bush?" Mr Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: "Ah -- you have scored a point there."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/14/sarkozy-chides-putin-on-r_n_143827.html?page=6
iLikeFlickerstick
11-15-2008, 06:53 PM
It's a shame that Putin's such a bad ass.
The Dane
11-15-2008, 06:57 PM
Putin is a typical warrior leader ...
Violet Fashion by Mindy
11-15-2008, 07:53 PM
I for one welcome our new World Leader
3rdMillhouse
11-15-2008, 08:05 PM
I think it's awesome that Putin is such a badass president.
Arbody
11-15-2008, 08:12 PM
YeesssS and He is mine !
Horizon
11-15-2008, 08:15 PM
a_very_ex_STAB has made a great paradigm, and I support his message, like I support free speech, and Democracy with a big D.
Until this board in labeled Political Discussions and Rants, and not president for life support club.
Flamming_Python
11-15-2008, 08:23 PM
The thing is - He have a strong tendency to stick to his promises. And lately i find myself supporting him, and that, scares the living sh/t out of me.
x2, i'm drawn to support him, even while my cynical side says otherwise.
Ghelp
11-15-2008, 09:24 PM
Putin the warrior king.The awesome is just so much.
Gawel1410
11-15-2008, 11:02 PM
I think it's awesome that Putin is such a badass president.
prime minister now, but whatever, still the russian leader, and still badass. p-)
Dmitriev
11-15-2008, 11:50 PM
Putin:i will hang Saakashvili by the balls
Ahhh Priceless. This adds to Putin's inventory:
* " We'll kill them in the ****room"
* About the circumcision one :D
* The one where Putin referd to U.K: " They need to change thier brains and not our Constitution"
* The one with Bush: " We would defenitely not want to have a democracy like the have in Iraq, I'll tell you wuite honestly"
* Now this one :D
Afro-European
11-16-2008, 05:32 AM
Repost:http://militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=146029
Basillicus
11-16-2008, 05:45 AM
I think it's awesome that Putin is such a badass president.
I think there's nothing awesome in the fact that the guy acts like a retard and is controlling the country with the 2nd largest nuclear weapon arsenal.
tommy00
11-16-2008, 06:45 AM
I think there's nothing awesome in the fact that the guy acts like a retard and is controlling the country with the 2nd largest nuclear weapon arsenal.
Well, acting like a retard, and in every ocasion using a "platnoi" way of speech, that impresses the "average ivan". It is sad that this big country has such a "nekulturnői" leader...
Putin himself, well, that tiny fellow his a textbookexample of a huge Napoleon-complex..
A joke i'vve read about this case,-"of course his tryiing to hang Saka by the balls, no way he wouldn't reach to put sling around his neck...:)
hogdriver
11-16-2008, 07:52 AM
Hope Putin die soon.
Putin is never dead, he will continue to govern as a mummy
Putin is such a bad ass, every country needs one.
Rawrrrr........
dlat83
11-16-2008, 10:31 AM
Is Putin going through a midlife crisis ?
achilles
11-16-2008, 11:21 AM
Vladimir's the manp-)
hogdriver
11-16-2008, 12:29 PM
Vladimir's the manp-)
you mean: Vladmir's the woman
http://i37.tinypic.com/j6tvko.jpg
a_very_ex_STAB
11-16-2008, 02:48 PM
chill man. VES is just a teenager making piles of poo in most of threads with word Russia in title.
Well the creation of this thread based on supposition about what certain world leaders may or may not have said (and probably didn't) is in itself an act of trolling :-)
I felt it only right and proper to give the appropriate response!
Meteor
11-16-2008, 03:54 PM
What do you expect... Hes KGB
No ****ing **** ?
Taking in consideration what US troops did at Abu Ghraib, if I were you I would STFU :bash:
Peris
11-16-2008, 04:27 PM
Vladimir's the manp-)
everybody carrying a Kizlyar knife has my respect:)
sektor
11-16-2008, 04:32 PM
Hope Putin die soon.
thats some bad wishing... grow up kid.
California Joe
11-16-2008, 04:42 PM
No ****ing **** ?
Taking in consideration what US troops did at Abu Ghraib, if I were you I would STFU :bash:
What does that mean ****bag? Are you equating the actions of some unhinged inbred retards with too much time on their hands with a supposed conversation by the leader of Russia? Or was that a shot at American troops in general? Or maybe you're just begging to get banned for stupidity?
As an aside, maybe Mr. Jean-David Levitte should shut his cockholster about what goes on at high level meetings.
Britboy
11-16-2008, 04:54 PM
What does that mean ****bag? Are you equating the actions of some unhinged inbred retards with too much time on their hands with a supposed conversation by the leader of Russia? Or was that a shot at American troops in general? Or maybe you're just begging to get banned for stupidity?
As an aside, maybe Mr. Jean-David Levitte should shut his cockholster about what goes on at high level meetings.
Fair does CJ, he was only pointing out that no nation has clean hands.
Same thing in my Rus Security seminars...
Other Bloke: 'The FSB harbours ex-Soviet war criminals and sadists!!!'
I think: 'And I expect our foreign intelligence lads all acted impeccably at all times, did they? And that EVERYONE in FSB is a war crim, not one individual with any merit?':roll:
Seems to me any mention of ex-KGB is daft, he was a half colonel in East Germany then left, brief period as their boss but not a considerable period, and TBH if anyone here has looked into how diverse the siloviki are as a group you'd realise just because people are ex-services it does not make them one homogenous groupthinking cohesive collective.
3rdMillhouse
11-16-2008, 04:56 PM
prime minister now, but whatever, still the russian leader, and still badass. p-)
Oh yeah, I always seem to forget that he's no longer Russia's president.
Meteor
11-16-2008, 05:10 PM
What does that mean ****bag? Are you equating the actions of some unhinged inbred retards with too much time on their hands with a supposed conversation by the leader of Russia?.
No **** CJ ?
I didn`t know US armed forces allow retards in their ranks.....
Karry
11-16-2008, 05:11 PM
As an aside, maybe Mr. Jean-David Levitte should shut his cockholster about what goes on at high level meetings.
This seems to be the major problem in meetings with Russians these days. First there was that conversation with Milliband leak, which turned out to be false. Then some US representative at UN couldnt keep his mouth shut and blabbed about Rice's conversation with Lavrov, which also turned out to be false. Now its French leaking yet another conversation...do i smell a pattern here ?
actions of some unhinged inbred retards with too much time on their hands
Wait, isnt this the US army shtick, to market itself as supposedly "the best trained, the best equipped, etc, etc" ?
LineDoggie
11-16-2008, 05:12 PM
No **** CJ ?
I didn`t know US armed forces allow retards in their ranks.....
Suicide by Mod, Party of one calling....
Recruit
11-16-2008, 07:37 PM
always knew that Putin hates Saakashvili to death by hang him by his balls?
I hope you understand that only bad humour???......
Putin a joker
California Joe
11-16-2008, 08:16 PM
Wait, isnt this the US army shtick, to market itself as supposedly "the best trained, the best equipped, etc, etc" ?
Are you trying to be obtuse or are you just stupid too?
I don't really feel like taking the time to explain how there are sh*tbirds in every organization on earth. And in Armys those sh*tbirds have firearms. You know, like every time some Russian enlisted man gets beaten to death we are assured that this too is an anomaly. It happens everywhere.
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