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OB Kenobi
06-16-2004, 10:57 AM
What's this? Bu$h backing down against al Sadr? The guy he called a murderer, thug and a terrorist? I thought al Sadr was just a little snot-nosed Mullah? He doesn't even have his own country. Ok Bu$h fans, let's hear your excuse for this one...

Bush Says U.S. Will Not Block Sadr Political Role
By David Morgan

WASHINGTON (*******) - President Bush said on Tuesday the United States would not oppose a political role in Iraq for Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, the fiery radical Bush branded an anti-democratic thug just last month.


Bush said that would demonstrate the United States intends to respect the independence of the new Iraqi government that is to assume power on June 30.


"The interim Iraqi government will deal with al-Sadr in the way they see fit," Bush said at a Rose Garden press conference.


Bush spoke after interim Iraqi President Ghazi al-Yawar welcomed Sadr, the leader of a Shi'ite insurgency, to participate as a political leader in elections expected next January.


"They're sovereign," Bush said. "When we say we transfer full sovereignty, we mean we transfer full sovereignty. And they will deal with him appropriately."


U.S. authorities vowed to capture or kill Sadr earlier this spring, after he and his Mehdi Army militia launched an uprising against American-led occupation troops.


Sadr, religious leader for Baghdad's impoverished Shi'ite community, later agreed to a truce in Najaf and Kerbala under pressure from other Shi'ite religious leaders appalled by fighting near holy shrines.


The U.S.-led administration in Iraq has maintained Sadr must surrender to an Iraqi arrest warrant in connection with the murder of a rival cleric in Najaf last year and is reluctant to see him take a leading role in Iraqi politics.


But Yawar said the young cleric was innocent until proven guilty and could enter Iraqi politics as soon as he disbands his militia, which is believed to number several thousand.


On May 5, Bush told al Arabiya television that Sadr's militia was among those willing to "kill, intimidate and try to take matters into their own hands, which is not the way democracy functions."


"Free societies do not allow thugs to roam streets and hold people hostage to their whims. The Iraqis will deal with Mr. Sadr," Bush said. (Additional reporting by Caren Bohan)

ShotOver
06-16-2004, 11:05 AM
You do know *******, get stories (yes stories) and sell them, right? They can talk as much BS as they please, because some big group like CNN or BBC will buy the story, and publish it.

This means **** all to me, YOU mean **** all to me, and will be banned like the rest of your idiot friends.

Now, go try and make your tiny **** bigger some other way, loser.

scm77
06-16-2004, 11:12 AM
Here's a way for a Bush fan to explain this.

If the US tells the Iraqis who can and can't run for government, and who the people can and can't vote for that isn't democracy. They are focused on trying to bring democracy to the country. That's not going to happen if they say, this guy can't be a part of it.

I don't think he should be allowed to be a part. I think he should be killed, but it is (or will be) a democracy. Where people are free to run for office.

This doesn't mean they can't kill/arrest him before the elections.

cut
06-16-2004, 11:17 AM
You do know *******, get stories (yes stories) and sell them, right? They can talk as much BS as they please, because some big group like CNN or BBC will buy the story, and publish it.

This means **** all to me, YOU mean **** all to me, and will be banned like the rest of your idiot friends.

Now, go try and make your tiny **** bigger some other way, loser.

the BBC don't copy&paste ******* like american news sites, they send their own reporters once they hear of a story.

hence the http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/nav/v3_bbc_copyright_footer.gif

that's why BBC stories don't match hundreds of others like those from nbc/voa/nytimes etc..

Lt_Crooks
06-16-2004, 11:33 AM
You do know *******, get stories (yes stories) and sell them, right? They can talk as much BS as they please, because some big group like CNN or BBC will buy the story, and publish it.

This means **** all to me, YOU mean **** all to me, and will be banned like the rest of your idiot friends.

Now, go try and make your tiny **** bigger some other way, loser.




I believe that this website is based in the good ol FREE united states I believe that EVERYONE is entitled to THEIR own opinion no matter how stupid it may sound to YOU.............if even you think this guy is a ass ;)

Sabre
06-16-2004, 11:43 AM
I'm not a Bush fan but he is not 'backing down'.

I think it has been said here before but he has already agreed that Iraq will become a sovereign state again at the 'handover'. It would therefore be illegal to interfere with another sovereign state's political system to serve your own interests.

Not that that has ever stopped a US president doing so. That is, after all, how Saddam came to power. ;)

But it would be openly hypocritical of Bush to, on the one hand, hand over sovereignty to Iraqis but then interfere again with their country by saying that they can't vote for Al Sadr.

2Sheds_Jackson
06-16-2004, 12:26 PM
Well put Sabre.

If you're looking for a hypocrite, look to OB Kenobi.

He rails against the US in Iraq. Then when the US hands power back to Iraq, he continues to complain.

So which is it Kenobi - do you want Bush to run the show or the Iraqis?

BTW, both Bush and the Iraqis have stipulated that before Al Sadr gets to do anything, he will face the charges against him. So he'll face either a religious court or a criminal court then continue on with whatever sentence they give him.

BlackRain
06-16-2004, 01:24 PM
al Sadr Defeats America

Your choice in title for this thread leads me to believe that you are a jerk off with no credibility.


No insult implied to the other jerk off's here.

5jumpchump
06-16-2004, 01:25 PM
I'm not your biggest bush fan but here it goes ...

"The interim Iraqi government will deal with al-Sadr in the way they see fit,"

I think that means if we stay around and fight Saders troops it will just go on and on . Soldiers will die for nothing , we are leaving in two weeks .
Basically you can read Bushes quote like this-

"The interim Iraqi government will KILL al-Sadr in the way they see fit,"

Very , very simple :roll:

Falco
06-16-2004, 02:06 PM
You do know *******, get stories (yes stories) and sell them, right? They can talk as much BS as they please, because some big group like CNN or BBC will buy the story, and publish it.

This means **** all to me, YOU mean **** all to me, and will be banned like the rest of your idiot friends.

Now, go try and make your tiny **** bigger some other way, loser.




I believe that this website is based in the good ol FREE united states I believe that EVERYONE is entitled to THEIR own opinion no matter how stupid it may sound to YOU.............if even you think this guy is a ass ;)

Actually not, this is Hood's web site. He can ban who ever he wants for the reason he wants.

Midav
06-16-2004, 03:06 PM
You know, looking at the title, then reading through the thread, this somehow reminds of the thread starter....

http://ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative10.jpg

Gringo
06-16-2004, 03:29 PM
You know, looking at the title, then reading through the thread, this somehow reminds of the thread starter....

http://ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative10.jpg

yes that be a nice looking attention whore above. :D

usa320
06-16-2004, 04:46 PM
OB is a moron. One day he complains for us shooting dead al-sadr's goons. THe next day he complains we arent tough enough...OB Kenobi, how do you explain the sudden change of heart?