View Full Version : Total withdrawal from Iraq is not defeat it is smart for now
Jaff Sassani
12-05-2008, 07:10 AM
This is a comment by us. Please read the article in the address below:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/An-Open-Letter-to-Presiden-by-Jaff-Sassani-081204-599.html
We say and hope he will get the support of every single person in America regardless of their abilities. We are 100 % for hearing the angle. “Whether they are at least willing to try to hear what the angels have to say”.
Let hope his opponent and his supporter in America are smart enough to give him the chance and support him for success. His successes will safe America. There are no rooms for politics. The USA economy and the USA performance as the supper power are in danger.
He has to be angle in dealing with so many problems in home and overseas. In overseas we hope he will have program like President Woodrow Wilson not only on paper. During President Wilson’s America was powerless but now, the USA has some power left to make the difference.
In our region to fight Iran aggressions he need true program for change which we did give him program. He needs to distance America from the dictators and corrupt politician in Middle East. He need to withdrawal from Iraq 100 % military and civilian for time being without any condition. It is not defeat; it is smart move for now. He needs to bring Russian to join EU. He need to recognize the Armenian genocide even if Turkey going to Join Iran. He needs to protect Kurds from sky only for now.
If he follows our preaching by treating the Iranian (this term is not only for citizen of Iran. It is for people from Pakistan to Georgia and Armenia) as Europeans then the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) plus the Turkic world will be his program. This is an angle dead not old days politic of tricks and treachery.
Sincerely,
Jaff Sassani
From the SKDC
budgie
12-05-2008, 09:03 AM
Let hope his opponent and his supporter in America are smart enough to give him the chance and support him for success. His successes will safe America. There are no rooms for politics. The USA economy and the USA performance as the supper power are in danger
I have always thought of the US as more of a dessert power myself.
Salman
12-05-2008, 09:12 AM
Could any native english speaker translate this so I can understand? I thought I was efficient in english but this small text is like a crypted message.
You want an union but yet you want to dissolve Iran as a united state?
Salman
12-05-2008, 09:23 AM
SASSANIAN KURD DEFENSE COMMITTEE (SKDC)
Author : SKDC
We call for the establishment of a committee whose purpose is to defend and keep alive the tribes of the Jaff and other tribes of similar heritage who are remnants of the Sassanian family. History experts in Kurdistan and the world as coming know us from Sassanian dissent, which makes us very proud of our forefathers and our ancestors.
It was our ancestors who established the Sassanian Government. It was our ancestors who lead the biggest emperors in the world and yet today we live under the rule of others, suffering and having our rights taken from us.
To understand why the establishment of a committee of this kind is necessary, take a moment to review the history of our ancestors alongside a modern view of our people today.
The Sassani people are not a political group and yet we have been used in turn by the Kurdish nationalist movement, the communist ideology movement, the socialist ideology movement, Islamism, democratic ideology movement and many others. The result has always been the same we have been used to serve others.
We are a group of Kurdish Sassanians who believe in education and have vision. Our people have been living for over one thousand years under pain, torture, and abuse because we have Arian Sassanian ancestors. For this reason we have established this committee, The Sassanian Kurd Defense Committee, to defend for our rights.
We believe we need the freedom to hold our own elections, which allow our people the ability elect people who really want to serve them. When this occurs then our electorate will be able to make decisions regarding economic development and management of our wealth that will truly benefit our people. We will be free from all the empty ideologies we have been under for so many years that have resulted in a few people stealing the wealth for themselves. A quick look at the history of democrats, communist, Islamism reveals they all have one thing in common; they are just thieves taking people’s wealth.
We are working to accomplish the goals below:
1- Forming a geographical federal area within Kurdistan federation region of Iraq. We will be a local federal area within our region of Kurdistan that will remain a federal area within Iraq.
2- The geographical area of our people will be where the majority are Sassanian Jaff which includes the areas of Kafree, part of Kirkuk, SarQala, Kalar, QazelRabat, Jalawla, Qoaratoo, Madin, Baohnoor, Darbanxan, New Halabjah, Arbat, SaidSadik, Sharazoor, Halabjah, Panjawin and other areas with majority of Sassanian Jaff.
3- We are working with the Kurdistan parliament to establish such a federal region based on the new Iraqi constitutions. We want to hold free and open elections to elect our own representatives. These representatives will be able to manage and control our economy so that we can be free from the abuses of other Kurdish groups who have taken our wealth for themselves in the past.
4- We are working to establish relationships with other Arian peoples like Afghani, Persian, blotchy, Azari, Tajak, Pashto, Pakistani and others socially, economically and educationally.
5- We are working to establish a union similar to the European Union. We know that it will be impossible to return to a single country like it was in the time of Sassanian but we can have one Arian economic union which can provide for a better life and peace for many generations to come.
6- The SKDC will continue with its work until such a time that laws have passed in the Kurdistan parliament, which will protect our rights in Kurdistan. After this is accomplished, committee elections will be held and those people who are elected will form a new committee to replace this temporary committee. We will continue with our daily work to achieve rights for our people from now until that day.
Short history of the Sassanian Kurd after the coming of the Arabic Islamic Army
It is known to the world that Sassanian formed and originated from the Persian region of Arian land. During their existence as the ruler of Arian nation they united all Arians under one flag without discrimination against any group. With so many different groups of Arians within the nation of their ruling there was not any distinction made between Persian people, Medes people (Kurd), Afghani, blotchy, Azari, Tajak, Pashto, Pakistani or any other Arian group.
The Sassanian Government was based on Zoroastrianism which is the religion and philosophy based on the teachings ascribed to the prophet Zoroaster.
During their rule they worked to preserve the Zoroastrians teaching. They spoke what is today’s Jaff language dialect, which is Sorrini Kurdish, a language very close to that of modern Persian.
After the year 1800, a few enemies of the Arian nation along with a few uneducated people in the Persian region of Iran propagated the separation of the language between Arian people so that a rift was formed between the people.
Read about our miserable life today, which began the day when the Arabic Islamic army come and conquered our country, destroyed our government, and occupied our land.
1- Government of Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) and their beliefs:
After their separation from the leader Barzani in the year 1963 this group of Kurds formed a new movement under the leadership of Abraham Ahmad and Jalal Talabani. Like many other Kurdish areas, this separation affected the Jaff region. Many people from the Jaff tribes killed each other because of these two different ideas.
PUK, according to their program are against monopolies and favoritisms for certain families, tribe origins, and regionalism. In reality most of their leaders are practicing the exact opposite of what they are preaching. These practices go as high as the guru of socialist internationalism and acclaimed human rights champion Uncle Jalal Talabani as well as the children of Abraham Ahmad, the wife of Mr. Talabani, and her children. One thing is clear; any Jaff activity in their region will unite all PUK factions against the Jaff.
The Jaff region is suffering at the hands of this group’s policy, especially those of Mr. Talabani. His policy allows the people in the region to kill each other.
2- Government of Democratic party of Kurdistan (PDK) and their beliefs:
After the separation of the group of Kurds from the leader Barzani in the year 1963, they formed new movement under the leadership of Abraham Ahmad and Uncle Jalal Talabani like other Kurdish area this separations affected Jaff region many people from Jaff killed each other because of these two different ideas.
PDK according to their program are against monopoly and favoritisms of family, tribe origins, regionalism and favoritisms to their city where they come from, but in reality most of their leader practicing exact opposite of what they are preaching.
PDK policy toward the Jaff region is based on making the people of Sulaymaniyah city happy even at the expense of others. Their policy entails giving the people of Sulaymaniyah administration over the Jaff region. This again boils down to the hatred Mr. Talabani feels toward the Jaff region because most of the people from the city of Sulaymaniyah have negative feelings toward the Jaff which go back over one century.
3- Government of Shak Mahmoud Barzanji and their beliefs:
Before the end of the local Baban, (1649-1850), family rule, two families in the Sulaymaniyh region were competing to get close to the Ottoman Sultan in the hope of replacing the Baban family. One was Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s family and the other was Mohammad Pasha Jaff’s family. Both families served the Sultan forcefully against the Baban family rule. They helped to overthrow the Baban family rule and both families became very rich. They took all the land from Baban family and divided it among themselves. The Ottoman Sultan kept both families equal to ensure that overall the Turks would retain more control over the region.
When Britain conquered the Iraqi territory they brought their own supporter, Fasel bin Hussain Sheriff Mecca from Saudi Arabia to form Iraq under his rule. They made him king of Iraq. Shak Mahmoud Barzanji revolted and wants to stay as a part of Turkey in the beginning but later he found this was impossible. He then looked to form an independent Kurdistan and became a hero in the eyes of Kurdish people to this day. Mohammad Pasha’s family, under the leadership of Hamid Beg Jaff, joined Britain because they were frightened that Shak Mahmoud Barzanji family would take every thing from them. Because Shak Mahmoud Barzanji family was so greedy, just like Mr. Jalal Talabani’s family today, history is repeating itself in the region. I hope that the people of Sulaymaniyh city will take some time to understand where the greed comes from and drop the hatred towards the Jaff people.
The Jaff people did not have any thing to do with Hamid Beg Jaff’s decision at the time. As a matter of fact, a large group of Jaff supported Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s effort under the leadership of Kalafah younis Jaff. People should know that the Jaff people have suffered a lot under the mischief of Mohammad Pasha Jaff and his family. When he joined the Ottoman Turk Sultan against the appointed Aziz Pasha Jaff (Aziz Shawas KaramWasi Jaff) by Baban Ruler, he joined the Turks to be their supporter and helps overthrow the Baban family. In return, the Ottoman Turks appointed him as Qaimqam of Halabjah. He arrested Aziz Pasha Jaff. According to Turk advice, Aziz Pasha Jaff was ordered to be killed by starvation. Aziz Pasha Jaff died after many days without food and water. His screams are said to have been so loud that generations of Halabjian people still feel it weigh on their conscience. That crime made one young man of the Aziz pasha family member kill Mohammad pasha Jaff in revenge. The Turks then helped Mahmoud Pasha Jaff, the son of the first Mohammad Pasha Jaff, to kill all the males’ member of Aziz Pasha Jaff. Incidentally this included his own uncle and cousin.
To this day the Jaff people are not united because of Mohammad Pasha Jaff and his descendents activities in the past. Although Jaff people kicked out most of them after 1958 Iraqi revolution, the people of Sulaymaniyh city does not understand the Jaff people. They continue to uphold a bad policy toward the region.
Today the Jaff people are well educated and want to have peace and equality with all the people in the region. Let us hope for friendship and respect from each other without hidden agendas.
4- Government of Baban, (1649-1850) and their beliefs:
The Baban families became the ruler of southern Kurdistan after a long war between the Ottoman Sultan and Iranian Government. The Baban family originated from the Arbil area and was very loyal to the Ottoman Sultan in the beginning. Later on they become nationalistic and wanted to establish an independent Kurdistan, separate from the Ottoman Empire. This caused the Ottoman Sultan to be suspicious of them, which is why they used other Kurdish families like Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s family and Mohammad Pasha Jaff’s family to overthrow them.
The Baban Family rule treated Jaff people very well. The actions of Mohammad Pasha Jaff were not justified. To this day the Jaff people are paying for it because it caused the people of Sulaymaniyh city to dislike the Jaff people and join Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s family’s propaganda against the Jaff people in the area.
5- Government of Bani Ardalan or (Bani Erdelan) (1169-1867) and their beliefs:
The Bani Ardalan families become the ruler of southern Kurdistan in the end of The Seljuks (1038 A.D – 1194 A.D) Government. Nobody knows for sure about their origins. Some people claim the origin of this family to be Kurd, but certainly they destroyed the Kurdish people’s unity. This was done by attacking Kurdish people from Hamadan (IRAN's Ancient Capital City of Ecbatana) region, Kermanshah region, Loristan region and especially the Hawraman and the Jaff people severely.
The rule of this family was the worst rule ever perpetrated against the Jaff people in the region. Maybe the Jalal Talabani rule will surpass them, we must wait and see what will happen in the future.
Conclusion:
Dear brother and sister Sassanian Jaffs, we hope that you will have better times and hope that you all study your origins so that you may know who you are. By understanding your forefathers you can appreciate the good work they have done. Face fully the past history of the Arian nation, remember them always so that we may stand united and be guided towards good. Let us remember their holy spirits and their good rule for the benefits of the entire Arian nation without discrimination. During their rule they never made any separation between Azari, Tajak, Persian people, Medes people (Kurd), Afghani, blotchy, Pashto, Pakistani and other Arian group. They served all equally and yes-Arian people did have peace and prosperity before Arabs conquered our country, destroyed our civilizations, insulted our culture and honor, all while killing in the name of the Islamic religion.
We are a group advising you not to support any Kurdish nationalistic party in Iran such as the Kurdistan Democratic party of Iran, Komala party, PAJK or any other political party. They use nationalistic ideology, communist ideology, and Islamic ideology but in reality most of their leadership is from Sanandaj Kurdistan (Bani Ardalan Region) and Mehabad region. They are hostile toward Sassanian Jaff. If you are fighting the Iranian Government for your rights, do it politically and peacefully. Remember your brothers and sisters by blood in Iraqi Kurdistan fought very hard. You should know how Mr. Jalal Talabani used them. Remember the chemical massacre of Halabjah and Anfil. Most of the victims were your relative Sassanian Jaff. Now they are suffering under Mr. Jalal Talabani’s rule. What is your guaranty that the Kurdish leadership in Iran will not use you as the Kurds did in Iraq?
http://jaff-sassanie.com/ShowContent.aspx?id=45&language=E
So you want to split from Kurdistan (Northern Iraq) and form your own "federal" geographic area? Well GL with that. Are you willing to help develop the entire kurdish region? Or is this your way of saying everyone take care of himself?
Snoshi
12-05-2008, 09:31 AM
Thats not what Iraqi insurgents and other terrorist groups will think...
Same as Israeli "withdrawal" from Gaza was not supposed to be a "defeat", but how did Islamists see it?
Salman
12-05-2008, 10:17 AM
Thats not what Iraqi insurgents and other terrorist groups will think...
Same as Israeli "withdrawal" from Gaza was not supposed to be a "defeat", but how did Islamists see it?
Yeah well, terrorists will claim victory if they managed to get you sweaty while killing them.
I can only shake my head and point out that there was a reason kurds had no independence for a long long time.....this is probably it....infighting as soon as an opportunity arises.
I guess we will have to follow this diplomatically and in case they separate that they will assist their brethen if attacked.
Jaff Sassani
12-05-2008, 12:54 PM
What we are saying that every regions within federations, if the Arab ever accepting the federation in Iraq should have their own local administration to run their own life. In Iraq or Kurdistan federation region, the Christen, the Turkmen, the yeazidis or any other regions within federation region should have their own administration. The administration should come by free elections.
You see buddy by attacking us without thinking. We did not claim to be English scholars. We hope the people understand us, that is good enough.
The thief’s like Talabani and Barzani now taking our budget money and we are drinking sewage water in our region. So you are calming that we Kurds always fighting each other that is why we do not have country. We do not see to much difference between Saddam Hussein and Barzani, Talabani Government. The outcome is the same. Majority of the people got killed in Kurdistan region did come from us, we are 1/4 of the population but we not have any power in the KRG.
We believe that Arab Imperialist never going to have peace with our people. So we believe our future should be with the Iranian people not with the Arabs. That is our goal and that is what we believe is the best for us.
SASSANIAN KURD DEFENSE COMMITTEE (SKDC)
Author : SKDC
We call for the establishment of a committee whose purpose is to defend and keep alive the tribes of the Jaff and other tribes of similar heritage who are remnants of the Sassanian family. History experts in Kurdistan and the world as coming know us from Sassanian dissent, which makes us very proud of our forefathers and our ancestors.
It was our ancestors who established the Sassanian Government. It was our ancestors who lead the biggest emperors in the world and yet today we live under the rule of others, suffering and having our rights taken from us.
To understand why the establishment of a committee of this kind is necessary, take a moment to review the history of our ancestors alongside a modern view of our people today.
The Sassani people are not a political group and yet we have been used in turn by the Kurdish nationalist movement, the communist ideology movement, the socialist ideology movement, Islamism, democratic ideology movement and many others. The result has always been the same we have been used to serve others.
We are a group of Kurdish Sassanians who believe in education and have vision. Our people have been living for over one thousand years under pain, torture, and abuse because we have Arian Sassanian ancestors. For this reason we have established this committee, The Sassanian Kurd Defense Committee, to defend for our rights.
We believe we need the freedom to hold our own elections, which allow our people the ability elect people who really want to serve them. When this occurs then our electorate will be able to make decisions regarding economic development and management of our wealth that will truly benefit our people. We will be free from all the empty ideologies we have been under for so many years that have resulted in a few people stealing the wealth for themselves. A quick look at the history of democrats, communist, Islamism reveals they all have one thing in common; they are just thieves taking people’s wealth.
We are working to accomplish the goals below:
1- Forming a geographical federal area within Kurdistan federation region of Iraq. We will be a local federal area within our region of Kurdistan that will remain a federal area within Iraq.
2- The geographical area of our people will be where the majority are Sassanian Jaff which includes the areas of Kafree, part of Kirkuk, SarQala, Kalar, QazelRabat, Jalawla, Qoaratoo, Madin, Baohnoor, Darbanxan, New Halabjah, Arbat, SaidSadik, Sharazoor, Halabjah, Panjawin and other areas with majority of Sassanian Jaff.
3- We are working with the Kurdistan parliament to establish such a federal region based on the new Iraqi constitutions. We want to hold free and open elections to elect our own representatives. These representatives will be able to manage and control our economy so that we can be free from the abuses of other Kurdish groups who have taken our wealth for themselves in the past.
4- We are working to establish relationships with other Arian peoples like Afghani, Persian, blotchy, Azari, Tajak, Pashto, Pakistani and others socially, economically and educationally.
5- We are working to establish a union similar to the European Union. We know that it will be impossible to return to a single country like it was in the time of Sassanian but we can have one Arian economic union which can provide for a better life and peace for many generations to come.
6- The SKDC will continue with its work until such a time that laws have passed in the Kurdistan parliament, which will protect our rights in Kurdistan. After this is accomplished, committee elections will be held and those people who are elected will form a new committee to replace this temporary committee. We will continue with our daily work to achieve rights for our people from now until that day.
Short history of the Sassanian Kurd after the coming of the Arabic Islamic Army
It is known to the world that Sassanian formed and originated from the Persian region of Arian land. During their existence as the ruler of Arian nation they united all Arians under one flag without discrimination against any group. With so many different groups of Arians within the nation of their ruling there was not any distinction made between Persian people, Medes people (Kurd), Afghani, blotchy, Azari, Tajak, Pashto, Pakistani or any other Arian group.
The Sassanian Government was based on Zoroastrianism which is the religion and philosophy based on the teachings ascribed to the prophet Zoroaster.
During their rule they worked to preserve the Zoroastrians teaching. They spoke what is today’s Jaff language dialect, which is Sorrini Kurdish, a language very close to that of modern Persian.
After the year 1800, a few enemies of the Arian nation along with a few uneducated people in the Persian region of Iran propagated the separation of the language between Arian people so that a rift was formed between the people.
Read about our miserable life today, which began the day when the Arabic Islamic army come and conquered our country, destroyed our government, and occupied our land.
1- Government of Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) and their beliefs:
After their separation from the leader Barzani in the year 1963 this group of Kurds formed a new movement under the leadership of Abraham Ahmad and Jalal Talabani. Like many other Kurdish areas, this separation affected the Jaff region. Many people from the Jaff tribes killed each other because of these two different ideas.
PUK, according to their program are against monopolies and favoritisms for certain families, tribe origins, and regionalism. In reality most of their leaders are practicing the exact opposite of what they are preaching. These practices go as high as the guru of socialist internationalism and acclaimed human rights champion Uncle Jalal Talabani as well as the children of Abraham Ahmad, the wife of Mr. Talabani, and her children. One thing is clear; any Jaff activity in their region will unite all PUK factions against the Jaff.
The Jaff region is suffering at the hands of this group’s policy, especially those of Mr. Talabani. His policy allows the people in the region to kill each other.
2- Government of Democratic party of Kurdistan (PDK) and their beliefs:
After the separation of the group of Kurds from the leader Barzani in the year 1963, they formed new movement under the leadership of Abraham Ahmad and Uncle Jalal Talabani like other Kurdish area this separations affected Jaff region many people from Jaff killed each other because of these two different ideas.
PDK according to their program are against monopoly and favoritisms of family, tribe origins, regionalism and favoritisms to their city where they come from, but in reality most of their leader practicing exact opposite of what they are preaching.
PDK policy toward the Jaff region is based on making the people of Sulaymaniyah city happy even at the expense of others. Their policy entails giving the people of Sulaymaniyah administration over the Jaff region. This again boils down to the hatred Mr. Talabani feels toward the Jaff region because most of the people from the city of Sulaymaniyah have negative feelings toward the Jaff which go back over one century.
3- Government of Shak Mahmoud Barzanji and their beliefs:
Before the end of the local Baban, (1649-1850), family rule, two families in the Sulaymaniyh region were competing to get close to the Ottoman Sultan in the hope of replacing the Baban family. One was Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s family and the other was Mohammad Pasha Jaff’s family. Both families served the Sultan forcefully against the Baban family rule. They helped to overthrow the Baban family rule and both families became very rich. They took all the land from Baban family and divided it among themselves. The Ottoman Sultan kept both families equal to ensure that overall the Turks would retain more control over the region.
When Britain conquered the Iraqi territory they brought their own supporter, Fasel bin Hussain Sheriff Mecca from Saudi Arabia to form Iraq under his rule. They made him king of Iraq. Shak Mahmoud Barzanji revolted and wants to stay as a part of Turkey in the beginning but later he found this was impossible. He then looked to form an independent Kurdistan and became a hero in the eyes of Kurdish people to this day. Mohammad Pasha’s family, under the leadership of Hamid Beg Jaff, joined Britain because they were frightened that Shak Mahmoud Barzanji family would take every thing from them. Because Shak Mahmoud Barzanji family was so greedy, just like Mr. Jalal Talabani’s family today, history is repeating itself in the region. I hope that the people of Sulaymaniyh city will take some time to understand where the greed comes from and drop the hatred towards the Jaff people.
The Jaff people did not have any thing to do with Hamid Beg Jaff’s decision at the time. As a matter of fact, a large group of Jaff supported Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s effort under the leadership of Kalafah younis Jaff. People should know that the Jaff people have suffered a lot under the mischief of Mohammad Pasha Jaff and his family. When he joined the Ottoman Turk Sultan against the appointed Aziz Pasha Jaff (Aziz Shawas KaramWasi Jaff) by Baban Ruler, he joined the Turks to be their supporter and helps overthrow the Baban family. In return, the Ottoman Turks appointed him as Qaimqam of Halabjah. He arrested Aziz Pasha Jaff. According to Turk advice, Aziz Pasha Jaff was ordered to be killed by starvation. Aziz Pasha Jaff died after many days without food and water. His screams are said to have been so loud that generations of Halabjian people still feel it weigh on their conscience. That crime made one young man of the Aziz pasha family member kill Mohammad pasha Jaff in revenge. The Turks then helped Mahmoud Pasha Jaff, the son of the first Mohammad Pasha Jaff, to kill all the males’ member of Aziz Pasha Jaff. Incidentally this included his own uncle and cousin.
To this day the Jaff people are not united because of Mohammad Pasha Jaff and his descendents activities in the past. Although Jaff people kicked out most of them after 1958 Iraqi revolution, the people of Sulaymaniyh city does not understand the Jaff people. They continue to uphold a bad policy toward the region.
Today the Jaff people are well educated and want to have peace and equality with all the people in the region. Let us hope for friendship and respect from each other without hidden agendas.
4- Government of Baban, (1649-1850) and their beliefs:
The Baban families became the ruler of southern Kurdistan after a long war between the Ottoman Sultan and Iranian Government. The Baban family originated from the Arbil area and was very loyal to the Ottoman Sultan in the beginning. Later on they become nationalistic and wanted to establish an independent Kurdistan, separate from the Ottoman Empire. This caused the Ottoman Sultan to be suspicious of them, which is why they used other Kurdish families like Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s family and Mohammad Pasha Jaff’s family to overthrow them.
The Baban Family rule treated Jaff people very well. The actions of Mohammad Pasha Jaff were not justified. To this day the Jaff people are paying for it because it caused the people of Sulaymaniyh city to dislike the Jaff people and join Shak Mahmoud Barzanji’s family’s propaganda against the Jaff people in the area.
5- Government of Bani Ardalan or (Bani Erdelan) (1169-1867) and their beliefs:
The Bani Ardalan families become the ruler of southern Kurdistan in the end of The Seljuks (1038 A.D – 1194 A.D) Government. Nobody knows for sure about their origins. Some people claim the origin of this family to be Kurd, but certainly they destroyed the Kurdish people’s unity. This was done by attacking Kurdish people from Hamadan (IRAN's Ancient Capital City of Ecbatana) region, Kermanshah region, Loristan region and especially the Hawraman and the Jaff people severely.
The rule of this family was the worst rule ever perpetrated against the Jaff people in the region. Maybe the Jalal Talabani rule will surpass them, we must wait and see what will happen in the future.
Conclusion:
Dear brother and sister Sassanian Jaffs, we hope that you will have better times and hope that you all study your origins so that you may know who you are. By understanding your forefathers you can appreciate the good work they have done. Face fully the past history of the Arian nation, remember them always so that we may stand united and be guided towards good. Let us remember their holy spirits and their good rule for the benefits of the entire Arian nation without discrimination. During their rule they never made any separation between Azari, Tajak, Persian people, Medes people (Kurd), Afghani, blotchy, Pashto, Pakistani and other Arian group. They served all equally and yes-Arian people did have peace and prosperity before Arabs conquered our country, destroyed our civilizations, insulted our culture and honor, all while killing in the name of the Islamic religion.
We are a group advising you not to support any Kurdish nationalistic party in Iran such as the Kurdistan Democratic party of Iran, Komala party, PAJK or any other political party. They use nationalistic ideology, communist ideology, and Islamic ideology but in reality most of their leadership is from Sanandaj Kurdistan (Bani Ardalan Region) and Mehabad region. They are hostile toward Sassanian Jaff. If you are fighting the Iranian Government for your rights, do it politically and peacefully. Remember your brothers and sisters by blood in Iraqi Kurdistan fought very hard. You should know how Mr. Jalal Talabani used them. Remember the chemical massacre of Halabjah and Anfil. Most of the victims were your relative Sassanian Jaff. Now they are suffering under Mr. Jalal Talabani’s rule. What is your guaranty that the Kurdish leadership in Iran will not use you as the Kurds did in Iraq?
http://jaff-sassanie.com/ShowContent.aspx?id=45&language=E
So you want to split from Kurdistan (Northern Iraq) and form your own "federal" geographic area? Well GL with that. Are you willing to help develop the entire kurdish region? Or is this your way of saying everyone take care of himself?
Salman
12-05-2008, 03:21 PM
Well if that is how you think then fine, I wish you the best to solve your problems politically. I would not be suprised if the kurdish goverment is authoritarian, after all its the mentality of the region. Also if your "federate" area also turn out to be a way to just enrich certain families whoes sole purpose is to "help the poor" then that would not be a suprise at all.
What you see in kurdistan is not real democrasy...but its a good step towards it.
budgie
12-05-2008, 08:12 PM
Yeah well, terrorists will claim victory if they managed to get you sweaty while killing them.
Don't work up a sweat: then the terrorists win!
LineDoggie
12-05-2008, 08:30 PM
Could any native english speaker translate this so I can understand? I thought I was efficient in english but this small text is like a crypted message.
You want an union but yet you want to dissolve Iran as a united state? Yeah good luck on that, because apparently it was put together from someone who learned English from a Claymore.
4X4Driver
12-05-2008, 08:53 PM
What we are saying that every regions within federations, if the Arab ever accepting the federation in Iraq should have their own local administration to run their own life. In Iraq or Kurdistan federation region, the Christen, the Turkmen, the yeazidis or any other regions within federation region should have their own administration. The administration should come by free elections.
You see buddy by attacking us without thinking. We did not claim to be English scholars. We hope the people understand us, that is good enough.
The thief’s like Talabani and Barzani now taking our budget money and we are drinking sewage water in our region. So you are calming that we Kurds always fighting each other that is why we do not have country. We do not see to much difference between Saddam Hussein and Barzani, Talabani Government. The outcome is the same. Majority of the people got killed in Kurdistan region did come from us, we are 1/4 of the population but we not have any power in the KRG.
We believe that Arab Imperialist never going to have peace with our people. So we believe our future should be with the Iranian people not with the Arabs. That is our goal and that is what we believe is the best for us.
Checking the situation in N. Iraq closer, seems like your concerns are pretty legit sir. :(
We Say No to a Medieval Kurdish Constitution
Around seven months ago, a draft constitution for the Kurdistan region was made available for discussion, suggestions and amendments. Article seven of this proposed constitution states: This constitution stresses the identification of the majority of Kurdish people as Muslims; thus the Islamic sharia law will be considered as one of the major sources for legislation making.
It is clear to the world that in those countries where sharia law is practised - or simply where groups of Islamic militias operate - freedom of expression, speech and association is under threat, if not totally absent. The rights of non-Islamic religious minorities are invariably violated and women suffer disproportionately.
The implementation of sharia law in Kurdistan would be the start of new bloody chapter in the Islamists' history of inhuman violence against the people, of oppression sanctioned by religious law.
In truth, sharia law contains explicit legal prescriptions that justify the violation of women's rights, specifically when it comes to family matters such as inheritance, marriage, divorce and custody of children.
Violent acts against women are already practised in Kurdistan. For decades, Kurdish women have been denied rights and have been oppressed due to patriarchal and religious cultures. Women in Kurdistan are still caught between the "values" of Islamic teaching and the desire for liberation. Thousands of women have been murdered in so-called honour killings, and the slaughter goes on to this day.
Women "self-burning", being forced into marriage and being denied the right to choose a partner are widespread. According to the Kurdistan human rights ministry, more than 533 women are reported to have committed suicide over the past year alone.
Historically, women played an important role in Kurdistan in all political, social and economic spheres, and still do so today. However, this did not win them civil and individual freedoms, owing to the dominant culture of religious patriarchy. A male relative is still entitled to make the decisions for "his" women, and impose his will upon them.
Just recently Iraq's central government passed a law denying women the right to apply for passports without the consent of a male relative. This has all the appearance of treating women as somehow inferiors, or even minors, who need to be "looked after" by "responsible" males.
Here and now in Kurdistan we are facing the forced Islamisation of people's lives. This draconian draft proposed constitution has prompted an international response. Along with five others, I launched a campaign to bring together all those who believe in secularism, and who therefore demand the removal of Article seven, to fight this reactionary clause, which would allow the Islamists to use official state law to justify their crimes against the women of Kurdistan.
http://www.aina.org/news/2007041395559.htm
To: Kurdistan Regional Government
International Campaign:
To remove Article No 7 from the Kurdistan regional constitution!
Article 7 of the proposed constitution for Kurdistan is an open threat to the rights and freedoms of the people.
http://www.petitiononline.com/15122006/petition.html
Jaff Sassani
12-11-2008, 03:32 PM
Masqot Barzani and Jalal Talabani: They are never going to have respect for the laws or going to learn to have respect for the constitution or laws. You do not know them very well. Or you are working for them. We know both men very well they are not going to have respect for laws at all in one hundred years.
Both men are criminal; they are involved in the killing of hundreds of people in their life time. If there are courts of the laws then they will have the same fate as did Saddam Hussein.
Let hope the new US Government won’t protect or help such criminal and corrupt people in the region.
The US Government and the US people should know people before supporting them. One of the reasons the people are not supporting the USA because of the wrong policy like that. They are just like blind any one tells them the road, they calling them allies. Stop this practice. The USA is suffering because of the association with criminal, corrupt and thieves like both men in Kurdistan.
wait is this legit? sassani? this is new to me.
Beykoz
12-12-2008, 08:46 AM
wait is this legit? sassani? this is new to me.
Which part...?
Both men are criminal; they are involved in the killing of hundreds of people in their life time. If there are courts of the laws then they will have the same fate as did Saddam Hussein.
Very much correct but lacks some details. Rewind back to 1980, start of the Iran-Iraq War, here you have Barzani siding with Iran in a fight against Saddam. War ends in 1988 and Saddam begins his Anfal Campaign targeting the Kurds. You would've heard of Chemical Ali, this is where he comes in... US interferes in 1991, First Gulf War, no fly zone in Northern Iraq, evil Saddam, poor Kurds, same old story... Well, enter 1996, now you have the same Barzani siding with the same Saddam, waging a war against Talabani, kicking him out of Erbil. Let me rephrase this : 'No fly zone' was brought in to protect the Kurds from Saddam and this Barzani fvck royally bends over Talabani with the assistance of Saddam's troops.
Northern Iraq may look all fine and dandy from thousands of miles away, the current poster child of the region, but in reality there is a lot of unfinished business there. This is without even involvong The Turkmen, The Sunni and The Shia.
Let hope the new US Government won’t protect or help such criminal and corrupt people in the region.
Make no mistake, Northern Iraq is being raped by its tribal leaders.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/17/international/middleeast/17kurds.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1142658000&en=86904ada0c69ffde&ei=5094&partner=homepage (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/17/international/middleeast/17kurds.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1142658000&en=86904ada0c69ffde&ei=5094&partner=homepage http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/7178820.stm)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/crossing_continents/7178820.stm
http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/13525
timetraveller
12-12-2008, 10:45 AM
Whom has the most to gain if Khurdistan becomes a nation ?
And Mr Sassani what is your connection to the area/ region , Where are you from ?
And what is your agenda ...
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