Facts Which May Surprise You (ABout Canada)

[EvanL]

Military
Since October of 2001, Canada has deployed 18 warships and 11,000 troops to the Persian Gulf and Northern Arabian Sea in support of the War on Terror.

WW1

BILLY BISHOP was the highest-scoring Allied ace, and second only to Germany's famous "Red Baron" (Manfred von Richthofen) who had 80 kills.
"The Canadians", wrote Lloyd George [British Prime Minister], "played a part of such distinction that thenceforward they were marked out as storm troops; for the remainder of the way they were brought along to head the assault in one great battle after another. Whenever the Germans found the Canadian Corps coming into the line they prepared for the worst."
Canada had a staggering total of 185 aces who shot down 5 or more enemy aircraft in WWI, and a full two dozen of them shot down twenty or more planes.
For more information about WWI

WW2

Canada had more than one million people in uniform during WWII - from a population of just 11 million.
25% of the British Royal Air Force were Canadian flyers.
Royal Canadian Air Force Squadrons fought in the Battle of Britain.
Canada participated in WWII from September 1939 until victory in Europe and Japan in 1945
14,000 Canadian troops stormed one of the D Day Beaches - Juno Beach.
Canadian troops invaded Sicily in 1943 along with US and British troops.
The Royal Canadian Navy played a crucial role in the Battle of the Atlantic.
At War's end the Canadian Navy was the 3rd largest Allied Navy; the Air Force was the 4th largest.
For more information about WW2

Korean War

26,791 Canadians fought in the Korean War.
2 Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry was awarded a US Presidential Citation for valorous actions and exceptional meritorious conduct for actions at the Battle of Kapyong in April 1951 where despite being completely surrounded by enemy units for 48 hours, the Canadians along with 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment and Company A, 72nd Heavy Tank Battalion (US), held the front line to allow US and South Korean forces to re-establish defensive positions.
For more information about the Korean War

Gulf War One

4,500 Canadians served during the 1990-1991 Gulf War (2,700 during combat).
Canada provided Three War ships, Strategic and Tactical Airlift, an Air to Air Re-fueler, a Field Hospital and Composite CF 18 Fighter Squadron.
Canadians were based in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain

Balkans

Canada has deployed 40,000 troops to the Balkans since 1991 with the European Community Monitoring Mission, United Nations and NATO.

Kosovo

Canada carried out 10 percent of the NATO bombing raids during the 1999 Kosovo Campaign.

War on Terror

Canada has deployed 18 Warships and 11,000 troops as part of the War on Terror.
For more information about the War on Terror

[stuntman]

Very interesting plus in ww1 it was a Canadian who shot down the red baron!
Weep em man it's Canada!

[Vance]

We need a clapping smiley.

[EvanL]

The Canadian Highland units were dubbed "The Ladies from Hades" by the Germans.

[EvanL]

We need a clapping smiley.
Yes we do. perhaps you could find one and be the first to use it?
I think this thread would be perfect for one.

[Bombtrack]

Re: the first gulf war, we were also based in kuwait.. here's some disturbing photographic proof.

http://www.webpresspro.com/funnyfarm/images/Z-full1_1.jpg

:lol:

[Vance]

We need a puking smiley.

[EvanL]

We need a puking smiley.
Stop pretending your not enjoying it.
p-)

[Bombtrack]

I just really hope my issued helmet isnt one of those 6 :|

[memphiz]

-There were 58,000 Canucks in Veitnam..110 lost there lives..9 werent found

Gulf war 2
-Approximately 90 members of the Canadian army, navy and air force were serving with Americans units on an exchange basis in the spring of 2003. That number included seven or eight fighter pilots from CFB Cold Lake. Another 50 Canadians were serving with the British forces on an exchange basis.
-Canadians posted to the U.S. Central Command headquarters in Tampa, Florida, were involved from the beginning, and there were Canadians posted to Centcom.

[SeanAshi]

Military
Since October of 2001, Canada has deployed 18 warships and 11,000 troops to the Persian Gulf and Northern Arabian Sea in support of the War on Terror.

WW1

BILLY BISHOP was the highest-scoring Allied ace, and second only to Germany's famous "Red Baron" (Manfred von Richthofen) who had 80 kills.
"The Canadians", wrote Lloyd George [British Prime Minister], "played a part of such distinction that thenceforward they were marked out as storm troops; for the remainder of the way they were brought along to head the assault in one great battle after another. Whenever the Germans found the Canadian Corps coming into the line they prepared for the worst."
Canada had a staggering total of 185 aces who shot down 5 or more enemy aircraft in WWI, and a full two dozen of them shot down twenty or more planes.
For more information about WWI

WW2

Canada had more than one million people in uniform during WWII - from a population of just 11 million.
25% of the British Royal Air Force were Canadian flyers.
Royal Canadian Air Force Squadrons fought in the Battle of Britain.
Canada participated in WWII from September 1939 until victory in Europe and Japan in 1945
14,000 Canadian troops stormed one of the D Day Beaches - Juno Beach.
Canadian troops invaded Sicily in 1943 along with US and British troops.
The Royal Canadian Navy played a crucial role in the Battle of the Atlantic.
At War's end the Canadian Navy was the 3rd largest Allied Navy; the Air Force was the 4th largest.
For more information about WW2

Korean War

26,791 Canadians fought in the Korean War.
2 Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry was awarded a US Presidential Citation for valorous actions and exceptional meritorious conduct for actions at the Battle of Kapyong in April 1951 where despite being completely surrounded by enemy units for 48 hours, the Canadians along with 3rd Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment and Company A, 72nd Heavy Tank Battalion (US), held the front line to allow US and South Korean forces to re-establish defensive positions.
For more information about the Korean War

Gulf War One

4,500 Canadians served during the 1990-1991 Gulf War (2,700 during combat).
Canada provided Three War ships, Strategic and Tactical Airlift, an Air to Air Re-fueler, a Field Hospital and Composite CF 18 Fighter Squadron.
Canadians were based in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain

Balkans

Canada has deployed 40,000 troops to the Balkans since 1991 with the European Community Monitoring Mission, United Nations and NATO.

Kosovo

Canada carried out 10 percent of the NATO bombing raids during the 1999 Kosovo Campaign.

War on Terror

Canada has deployed 18 Warships and 11,000 troops as part of the War on Terror.
For more information about the War on Terror
Many times pride gets in the way and we Americans didn't give the respect and our sincerest appreciation to our Canadian neighbors to the north that so deserve it, my apologies for my childish remarks on Canada.

[Yes Man]

I just really hope my issued helmet isnt one of those 6 :|

+1 :(

[ronin2172]

-There were 58,000 Canucks in Veitnam..110 lost there lives..9 werent found
Gulf war 2
-Approximately 90 members of the Canadian army, navy and air force were serving with Americans units on an exchange basis in the spring of 2003. That number included seven or eight fighter pilots from CFB Cold Lake. Another 50 Canadians were serving with the British forces on an exchange basis.
-Canadians posted to the U.S. Central Command headquarters in Tampa, Florida, were involved from the beginning, and there were Canadians posted to Centcom.
That i didn't know....what were they doing in Vietnam?

[Midav]

Very interesting plus in ww1 it was a Canadian who shot down the red baron!
Weep em man it's Canada!

Actually, it has not been proven, either way, if Richthofen was shot down in air-air combat or brought down by ground fire.

I remember having this debate when I was in Germany and not to mean disrespect to any aviators that fought in WW I.

However, 'till this day, no evidence has been brought forth as to what really brought down the Red Baron.

[Bombtrack]

Another cool fact about WW1 is that we had at least 2 American Legions in our Army, for people from the USA who wanted to fight in the war, since their country wasnt (miltarily) involved until 1917.

Re Vietnam: I thought the number was something around 10,000?
edit: I found this on www.vwam.com (Vets with a mission)

But while Canada as a nation was not involved, Canadians themselves formed the largest foreign contingent in the U.S. military during the Vietnam era. Some estimate that their numbers far suppressed the more than 30,000 Americans draft dodgers who fled to Canada to avoid military service during the war. While exact numbers are impossible to obtain, from my work as a military historian with the Canadian War Museum, I estimate that of the many thousands who served in the U.S. Vietnam-era military, some 12,00 Canadians actually served in Vietnam itself.
Further reading: http://www.vwam.com/vets/canadians.html

Re the Red Baron: Yeah there is dispute whether We shot him down or wheter an ANZAC machine-gun team shot him town. I'm assuming both factors were involved in bringing him down

[scm77]

Re: the first gulf war, we were also based in kuwait.. here's some disturbing photographic proof.

http://www.webpresspro.com/funnyfarm/images/Z-full1_1.jpg

:lol:

They had Cadpat helmet covers in the first gulf war??

[Khabbi]

Very interesting plus in ww1 it was a Canadian who shot down the red baron!
Weep em man it's Canada!

Actually, it has not been proven, either way, if Richthofen was shot down in air-air combat or brought down by ground fire.

I remember having this debate when I was in Germany and not to mean disrespect to any aviators that fought in WW I.

However, 'till this day, no evidence has been brought forth as to what really brought down the Red Baron.


Discovery said it was a Australian

[scm77]

I heard it was a Spaniard. ;)

[Vance]

You're both wrong, it was MEXICO!!

woot woot woot

[Hawaii_Light]

it has been scientificly proven that it was an aussie who shot down the red baron. :( , but the aussies need somthing to take pride in to eh :)

(NOVA)

[memphiz]

-There were 58,000 Canucks in Veitnam..110 lost there lives..9 werent found
Gulf war 2
-Approximately 90 members of the Canadian army, navy and air force were serving with Americans units on an exchange basis in the spring of 2003. That number included seven or eight fighter pilots from CFB Cold Lake. Another 50 Canadians were serving with the British forces on an exchange basis.
-Canadians posted to the U.S. Central Command headquarters in Tampa, Florida, were involved from the beginning, and there were Canadians posted to Centcom.
That i didn't know....what were they doing in Vietnam?
They were Canadians working in the states ad were drafted, and some volunteered from Canada






Another cool fact about WW1 is that we had at least 2 American Legions in our Army, for people from the USA who wanted to fight in the war, since their country wasnt (miltarily) involved until 1917.

Re Vietnam: I thought the number was something around 10,000?
edit: I found this on www.vwam.com (Vets with a mission)

But while Canada as a nation was not involved, Canadians themselves formed the largest foreign contingent in the U.S. military during the Vietnam era. Some estimate that their numbers far suppressed the more than 30,000 Americans draft dodgers who fled to Canada to avoid military service during the war. While exact numbers are impossible to obtain, from my work as a military historian with the Canadian War Museum, I estimate that of the many thousands who served in the U.S. Vietnam-era military, some 12,00 Canadians actually served in Vietnam itself.
Further reading: http://www.vwam.com/vets/canadians.html

Re the Red Baron: Yeah there is dispute whether We shot him down or wheter an ANZAC machine-gun team shot him town. I'm assuming both factors were involved in bringing him down


On the Vietnam stuff...I got my info from a documentary on the history channel called 'Canadians in Vietnam' I saw it a couple of months ago. on that website like it said its to hard to tell, there was Canadian volunteers and there were Canadians living in the states that were drafted. And alot of the Canucks that did fight most likly didnt tell alot of people when they got back or applied for US citizenship.
So I think it coould be any where between 12,000 to 50,000 but thats just me.

[Kitsune]

Khabbi wrote:
Midav wrote:
stuntman wrote:

Very interesting plus in ww1 it was a Canadian who shot down the red baron!
Weep em man it's Canada!
Actually, it has not been proven, either way, if Richthofen was shot down in air-air combat or brought down by ground fire.

I remember having this debate when I was in Germany and not to mean disrespect to any aviators that fought in WW I.

However, 'till this day, no evidence has been brought forth as to what really brought down the Red Baron.

Discovery said it was a Australian



Hmf...no, actually the man did commit suicide.


p-)

[Midav]

US-Canada are like sibblings.. they'll argue and what not. But, when the sh*t hits the fan, they stand together as one.

There were thousands of Canadians that served in the US military during Vietnam and likewise, through both world wars, thousands of Americans served in the Canadian military.

Something to be proud of. Cheers!

[Lone Predator]

Re: the first gulf war, we were also based in kuwait.. here's some disturbing photographic proof.

http://www.webpresspro.com/funnyfarm/images/Z-full1_1.jpg

:lol:

They had Cadpat helmet covers in the first gulf war??

CADPAT started getting work done on it in 89 I think

Cadpat (as a camo design) has een around since then, on helmets mostly, it was until I think the very late 90's that the BDU's were prepaired and began being issued. The wide spread availability (if you can call it wide spread really) of the cadpat arid BDU's only began this year (though they'd been in trial for a few).

[ZeroPositive]

doubt it is a pic of the first gulf war probably afganistan...
Go CANADA!!!

[Bombtrack]

doubt it is a pic of the first gulf war probably afganistan...
Go CANADA!!!

Nah the picture has been around longer than afghanistan.. anyone else notice Ed's tanline? It kills me

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Calishaw was a Ace in WW1, he lived on the island. And we named the local airport after him.

As for "who shot down the red baron", theres a number of theorys. I watched a show on TLC not too long ago were they re-created the events that led to the red baron being shot down. There theory was that a soldier on the ground (I think it was British if I remeber correctly) saw the baron flying around. The red baron broke his #1 rule, never allow yourself to be hit by ground fire. They used a old ww1 machine gun ladened with a special laser that matched the "firing pattern / spread pattern" of the gun, from there they had a person fly by in a bi-plane and had a guy "shoot" the laser at the "red baron". They figure the gun wasnt strong enough to take out the plane, but the baron got hit which killed him causing his plane to crash.

[stuntman]

Calishaw was a Ace in WW1, he lived on the island. And we named the local airport after him.

As for "who shot down the red baron", theres a number of theorys. I watched a show on TLC not too long ago were they re-created the events that led to the red baron being shot down. There theory was that a soldier on the ground (I think it was British if I remeber correctly) saw the baron flying around. The red baron broke his #1 rule, never allow yourself to be hit by ground fire. They used a old ww1 machine gun ladened with a special laser that matched the "firing pattern / spread pattern" of the gun, from there they had a person fly by in a bi-plane and had a guy "shoot" the laser at the "red baron". They figure the gun wasnt strong enough to take out the plane, but the baron got hit which killed him causing his plane to crash.

Please tell me the lazer part is a joke unless your talking about something totally different. Plus I saw that show and it claimed it was a Aussie michinegun team and the same day a Canadian soldier on some patrol shot him also. BUt who cares at least he got shot down dishonorable (no blaze of glory).

[Falco]

Calishaw was a Ace in WW1, he lived on the island. And we named the local airport after him.

As for "who shot down the red baron", theres a number of theorys. I watched a show on TLC not too long ago were they re-created the events that led to the red baron being shot down. There theory was that a soldier on the ground (I think it was British if I remeber correctly) saw the baron flying around. The red baron broke his #1 rule, never allow yourself to be hit by ground fire. They used a old ww1 machine gun ladened with a special laser that matched the "firing pattern / spread pattern" of the gun, from there they had a person fly by in a bi-plane and had a guy "shoot" the laser at the "red baron". They figure the gun wasnt strong enough to take out the plane, but the baron got hit which killed him causing his plane to crash.

Please tell me the lazer part is a joke unless your talking about something totally different. Plus I saw that show and it claimed it was a Aussie michinegun team and the same day a Canadian soldier on some patrol shot him also. BUt who cares at least he got shot down dishonorable (no blaze of glory).

The laser was only there during the recreation, not during WW1.

[East]

Our military history always makes me proud. Don't forget though that there are many other countries like ours who have answered the call of duty in times of war.

[Yes Man]

Calishaw was a Ace in WW1, he lived on the island. And we named the local airport after him.

As for "who shot down the red baron", theres a number of theorys. I watched a show on TLC not too long ago were they re-created the events that led to the red baron being shot down. There theory was that a soldier on the ground (I think it was British if I remeber correctly) saw the baron flying around. The red baron broke his #1 rule, never allow yourself to be hit by ground fire. They used a old ww1 machine gun ladened with a special laser that matched the "firing pattern / spread pattern" of the gun, from there they had a person fly by in a bi-plane and had a guy "shoot" the laser at the "red baron". They figure the gun wasnt strong enough to take out the plane, but the baron got hit which killed him causing his plane to crash.

Please tell me the lazer part is a joke unless your talking about something totally different. Plus I saw that show and it claimed it was a Aussie michinegun team and the same day a Canadian soldier on some patrol shot him also. BUt who cares at least he got shot down dishonorable (no blaze of glory).

Is there an honorable way to be shot down rofl

[Midav]

Good point p-)

[stuntman]

Calishaw was a Ace in WW1, he lived on the island. And we named the local airport after him.

As for "who shot down the red baron", theres a number of theorys. I watched a show on TLC not too long ago were they re-created the events that led to the red baron being shot down. There theory was that a soldier on the ground (I think it was British if I remeber correctly) saw the baron flying around. The red baron broke his #1 rule, never allow yourself to be hit by ground fire. They used a old ww1 machine gun ladened with a special laser that matched the "firing pattern / spread pattern" of the gun, from there they had a person fly by in a bi-plane and had a guy "shoot" the laser at the "red baron". They figure the gun wasnt strong enough to take out the plane, but the baron got hit which killed him causing his plane to crash.

Please tell me the lazer part is a joke unless your talking about something totally different. Plus I saw that show and it claimed it was a Aussie michinegun team and the same day a Canadian soldier on some patrol shot him also. BUt who cares at least he got shot down dishonorable (no blaze of glory).

Is there an honorable way to be shot down rofl

Well good point, I ment more getting shot down in dog fight. I mean he was and still is the best dog fighter in the world.

[ronin2172]

Calishaw was a Ace in WW1, he lived on the island. And we named the local airport after him.

As for "who shot down the red baron", theres a number of theorys. I watched a show on TLC not too long ago were they re-created the events that led to the red baron being shot down. There theory was that a soldier on the ground (I think it was British if I remeber correctly) saw the baron flying around. The red baron broke his #1 rule, never allow yourself to be hit by ground fire. They used a old ww1 machine gun ladened with a special laser that matched the "firing pattern / spread pattern" of the gun, from there they had a person fly by in a bi-plane and had a guy "shoot" the laser at the "red baron". They figure the gun wasnt strong enough to take out the plane, but the baron got hit which killed him causing his plane to crash.

Please tell me the lazer part is a joke unless your talking about something totally different. Plus I saw that show and it claimed it was a Aussie michinegun team and the same day a Canadian soldier on some patrol shot him also. BUt who cares at least he got shot down dishonorable (no blaze of glory).

Is there an honorable way to be shot down rofl

Well good point, I ment more getting shot down in dog fight. I mean he was and still is the best dog fighter in the world.
i think u can make a good arguement for the man who taught the baron how to fight....Oswald Boelcke.....he is almost forgotten

Oswald Boelcke developed the most successful flying tactics used by German aces, making possible the later achievements of Manfred von Richthofen. Boelcke flew the first Fokker E.I, won the Pour le Mérite, commanded Jasta 2, mentored many younger German fliers, and was even decorated by the French for rescuing a child from drowning.

Childhood
He was born in 1891, son of a schoolteacher. His older brothers, Wilhelm and Friederich, had been born in Argentina, but by 1891, the Boelcke family had returned to Halle, Germany. Both studious and athletic as a youth, Oswald excelled at mathematics and physics, and also took up swimming, tennis, rowing, and gymnastics. Imbued with German nationalism and militarism from his father, young Oswald took the outrageous step of writing Kaiser Wilhelm directly for an appointment to military school - at the age of thirteen.
He joined the military and at Darmstadt first encountered the aviation branch, which he joined as an NCO pilot. His older brother Wilhelm also joined the aviation service, as an NCO observer. (In those early days, observers had more status than pilots, who were likened to mere chauffeurs.) Both were decorated in the first year of the war.

Section 62
After a bout with bronchial illness, in early 1915 Oswald Boelcke was assigned to the newly formed aviation Section 62 at Döberitz. Here, Tony Fokker first demonstrated his first E-I monoplane, Eindecker, equipped with a fixed Spandau machine gun, which fired forward through the propeller arc, thanks to an interrupter mechanism. As related in the Immelmann article, the two of them shortly went after some British bombers and Immelmann shot one down. The so-called "Fokker Scourge" had begun.
Boelcke downed five enemy aircraft by the end of 1915, while flying the Fokker monoplane. Despite its revolutionary armament, German pilots never really liked the Fokker, and when Halberstadt and Albatros introduced new biplanes in early 1916, these were eagerly adopted. The French Nieuport 11 and the British pusher biplanes were giving the Germans trouble, and Boelcke focused on tactics to counter them: accurate gunnery, tight formations, and staying within the German lines.

January, 1916
In January, 1916, Boelcke downed four more airplanes, including a Vickers F.B.5 "Gunbus," a two-seater pusher biplane (an arrangement favored by British designers early in the war). Boelcke was unfamiliar with the Gunbus, and it surprised him with its maneuverability. He backed off and tried again; the two planes twisted and turned for half an hour, gradually losing altitude. When over Boelcke's airdrome at Douai, the British flier finally made his mistake, and Boelcke shot him down. He was decorated with the Pour le Mérite shortly after this. It was also at this time that Boelcke rescued the French schoolboy from the canal, for which he was awarded the French Life Saving Medal a few months later.

In preparation for a huge German offensive, Boelcke's jasta (jagdstaffel or fighter squadron) was moved to Verdun, where they were expected to emphasize reconnaissance and bombing missions. On March 13, Boelcke spotted a Voisin lagging its formation, and he moved in for the kill. The biplane was fluttered and began to spin, then it slid off into a cloud. When it emerged, its terrified gunner/observer had clambered out onto the wing, in a desperate effort to stabilize it. Normally fighter pilots don't have much compassion for their foes, but Boelcke was horrified to see the Voisin suddenly lurch and cast the poor man into empty space.

In the next few days, Boelcke shot down three Farmans, raising his score to thirteen. He and Immelmann continued their friendly rivalry until June of 1916, when Immelmann, then with 15 victories, was killed.

Jasta 2
In September, 1916, Boelcke was given command of a new fighter squadron, Jasta 2. Even while assuming new administrative duties, and while tasked with solving the tactical problem posed by British two-seaters, Boelcke shot down eleven British planes in September. He had recently recruited Manfred von Richthofen, a promising Albatros two-seater pilot. Jasta 2, equipped with the new Albatros D.II, began flying over the Somme battlefield on September 17. The D.II was a shark-nosed biplane, light but tough, powered by a 160 HP in-line Mercedes, that carried two synchronized Spandau machine guns.
Boelcke and his pilots only flew in large, well-organized formations, dubbed "circuses." Any Allied plane that came within their section of the sky was doomed. Even as his own score grew to 40, Boelcke cared little for his personal record.

He explained, "Everything depends on sticking together when the Staffel goes into battle. It does not matter who actually scores the victory as long as the Staffel wins." He focused on drilling novices, instructing flight leaders, and refining fighter tactics. He wrote and sketched his ideas, delivered them in person throughout German air bases, and helped to form new Jastas, staffed by leaders imbued with his ideas.

Some of Boelcke's rules for aerial combat:

Try to secure advantages before you attack. If possible, keep the sun behind you.

Always carry through an attack when you have started it.

Fire only at close range and only when your opponent is properly in your sights.

Always keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses.

In any form of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind.

If your opponent dives on you, do not try to evade his onslaught, but fly to meet it.

When over the enemy's lines, never forget your own line of retreat.

Collision

On October 28, 1916, Boelcke was leading a formation of six Albatroses in an attack on some D.H.2s. Von Richthofen and Erwin Boehme, another talented flier, were with him. As they maneuvered against the D.H.2s, Boehme's plane collided with Boelcke's, his wing slicing the upper-wing struts of Boelcke's Albatros. Instantly, the wing folded up and the plane dove into the ground. Boehme was devasted, but was prevented from killing himself; he went on to shoot down 24 Allied planes and to receive the Pour le Mérite himself.
Oswald Boelcke was buried in the cathedral at Cambrai, with senior German officers and nobility present. Even British POW's at Osnabrück sent a card

[pAt]

-There were 58,000 Canucks in Veitnam..110 lost there lives..9 werent found
Gulf war 2
-Approximately 90 members of the Canadian army, navy and air force were serving with Americans units on an exchange basis in the spring of 2003. That number included seven or eight fighter pilots from CFB Cold Lake. Another 50 Canadians were serving with the British forces on an exchange basis.
-Canadians posted to the U.S. Central Command headquarters in Tampa, Florida, were involved from the beginning, and there were Canadians posted to Centcom.
That i didn't know....what were they doing in Vietnam?

they were un offically there i think they were made up by volnteers

[Mark Sman]

All Canadians that fought in Vietnam did so as part of the armed forces of another nation.

The number is unknown.

As for Canadians in Kuwait. Why shouldn't they be there? To my knowledge, Canada and Kuwait enjoy cordial relations. The Canadian armed forces may indeed be in Kuwait. Small numbers to be sure, but there.

In the interest of PERSEC though, you should black out their socks.

[Loco]

I heard it was a Spaniard. ;)
It wasn´t for sure, the only spaniards roaring there were the hispano-suizas engines that some allied aircrafts used. But it´s funny that canadians allege as a merit in IWW killing the Red Baron and still nobody knows the name of that canadian pilot. Btw, when the killed is famous and the killer is ignored, ...ummm, well, ehhh...I don´t pretend to flame a war with this, or do I? It´s only that it sounds as if you´re proud because you won Tiger Wood having you a handicap +39 p-)
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/images/red_baron_01.jpg

[Porta_jon]

does "the the ladies from hades" rhyme when said in german?? :backhand: :backhand:

[EvanL]

does "the the ladies from hades" rhyme when said in german?? :backhand: :backhand:
Do you speak German enough to confirm?
:slap: :slap:

[Midav]

If I may interject: Die Damen von Hades.

Nope.

[Falco]

I heard it was a Spaniard. ;)
It wasn´t for sure, the only spaniards roaring there were the hispano-suizas engines that some allied aircrafts used. But it´s funny that canadians allege as a merit in IWW killing the Red Baron and still nobody knows the name of that canadian pilot. Btw, when the killed is famous and the killer is ignored, ...ummm, well, ehhh...I don´t pretend to flame a war with this, or do I? It´s only that it sounds as if you´re proud because you won Tiger Wood having you a handicap +39 p-)
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/images/red_baron_01.jpg

the canadian pilot was Capt. Roy Brown.

[Secret Squirrel]

not sure if this has been mentioned, but just to add another interesting WWII fact about Canada. Canada’s navy during WWII matured and expanded from 3,252 officers and sailors manning 13 vessels in 1939 to 92,441 officers and sailors manning over 400 various vessels in late 1944. I think at the end of the war, it was the third largest navy in the world.

[Germaine]

too bad were not with the americans in Iraq or had more trps in A-stan

[EvanL]

too bad were not with the americans in Iraq or had more trps in A-stan
Why do you say that?

[Germaine]

to actually do our job and support our allies

[EvanL]

to actually do our job and support our allies
At the time, i wished we went into Iraq. But now. Im glad we didnt.

[Germaine]

getting tired of doing mostly Humanitarian assistance (minus first tour to A-stan, and they didn't do or see that much)

[Germaine]

to actually do our job and support our allies
At the time, i wished we went into Iraq. But now. Im glad we didnt.Im glad Now we didnt go right away but now we could help out. The war is over

[EvanL]

getting tired of doing mostly Humanitarian assistance (minus first tour to A-stan, and they didn't do or see that much)
You need to study up a little more man.
humanitarian assistance is a very good cause. you would have to be evil to think it a useless thing.
And our first tour in Afghanistan was full of operations.
get your head out of your ass man.
What do you want? You want us to be the superpower to our south? Are you gonna keep whining until we are?
Thats not us man.
We fight when we need to. And we always have. We never leave our job unfinished. Sometimes its best not to get involved in some fights. Like with Iraq. Im pissed about the pussyfooting our government did, but im glad we ended up not going now. That doesnt mean im glad our government pussfooted, that still pisses me off. It means im glad that were not caught up in this "mess o potamia", to quote John Stewart.

[EvanL]

to actually do our job and support our allies
At the time, i wished we went into Iraq. But now. Im glad we didnt.Im glad Now we didnt go right away but now we could help out. The war is over
the war is far from over.

[DANJANOU]

Another cool fact about WW1 is that we had at least 2 American Legions in our Army, for people from the USA who wanted to fight in the war, since their country wasnt (miltarily) involved until 1917.


What??

US nationals joined Canadian/British and other Imperial/Commonwealth Military units as individuals in both WWI and WWII prior to the US declaring war, but I have no clue as to what these "Legions" you speak of are. The closest I can come up with re an organised US MIlitary unit was the "Eagel Squadron" in the RAF ( not the RCAF) in WWII (not WWI).

Re Canadian volunteers in Vietnam. One reason the numbers are not completely known is that it is hard to distinguish Canadians who joined the US military during the period of the war and those who actually served in SEA. Also one has to take into account that Aboriginals because of their unique status technically have dual Canadian/US Citizenship so in which group do we count them.

Finally re the Full Cadpat Monty pic. It was actually taken after GW1. It's Canadian Military Engineers deployed there after hostilities ended to help clear minefields and other little surprises left behind.

[Germaine]

getting tired of doing mostly Humanitarian assistance (minus first tour to A-stan, and they didn't do or see that much)
You need to study up a little more man.
humanitarian assistance is a very good cause. you would have to be evil to think it a useless thing.
And our first tour in Afghanistan was full of operations.
get your head out of your ass man.
What do you want? You want us to be the superpower to our south? Are you gonna keep whining until we are?
Thats not us man.
We fight when we need to. And we always have. We never leave our job unfinished. Sometimes its best not to get involved in some fights. Like with Iraq. Im pissed about the pussyfooting our government did, but im glad we ended up not going now. That doesnt mean im glad our government pussfooted, that still pisses me off. It means im glad that were not caught up in this "mess o potamia", to quote John Stewart.

never said HA was bad (its all we do now as a military-correction Mostly)
First tour full of ops no enemy (minus snipers)
Dont want to be a superpower (what makes u think I want Canada to be a superpower when all I want to do is my JOB, same as many more trps) and we are lowering are number of trps in A-stan

[Bombtrack]

Danjanou, I've seen 2 different Canadian recruiting posters from WW1 advertising 2 CEF Battalions that they referred to as American Legions, I'll see if they're on the internet somewhere.

[EvanL]

getting tired of doing mostly Humanitarian assistance (minus first tour to A-stan, and they didn't do or see that much)
You need to study up a little more man.
humanitarian assistance is a very good cause. you would have to be evil to think it a useless thing.
And our first tour in Afghanistan was full of operations.
get your head out of your ass man.
What do you want? You want us to be the superpower to our south? Are you gonna keep whining until we are?
Thats not us man.
We fight when we need to. And we always have. We never leave our job unfinished. Sometimes its best not to get involved in some fights. Like with Iraq. Im pissed about the pussyfooting our government did, but im glad we ended up not going now. That doesnt mean im glad our government pussfooted, that still pisses me off. It means im glad that were not caught up in this "mess o potamia", to quote John Stewart.

never said HA was bad (its all we do now as a military-correction Mostly)
First tour full of ops no enemy (minus snipers)
Dont want to be a superpower (what makes u think I want Canada to be a superpower when all I want to do is my JOB, same as many more trps) and we are lowering are number of trps in A-stan
Are you currently serving?

[Mongrel]

Germain wrote: "getting tired of doing mostly Humanitarian assistance (minus first tour to A-stan, and they didn't do or see that much)"

Hmm not sure about this the Canadian troops I talked to say they saw Combat, and are -still- in a Hostile zone. Remember that place is infamious for swallowing up huge armies, and modern combat is that much more dangerious.

We are not there to be cowboys...that is not what we do.

Cheers!
M.

[Bombtrack]

Are you currently serving?

He said in the Ex Southern Patricia thread that he is in 1PPCLI

[EvanL]

Are you currently serving?

He said in the Ex Southern Patricia thread that he is in 1PPCLI
Cool

[Germaine]

yes im serving in 1VP and have been to Bosnia (very quiet)

[Germaine]

Germain wrote: "getting tired of doing mostly Humanitarian assistance (minus first tour to A-stan, and they didn't do or see that much)"

Hmm not sure about this the Canadian troops I talked to say they saw Combat, and are -still- in a Hostile zone. Remember that place is infamious for swallowing up huge armies, and modern combat is that much more dangerious.

We are not there to be cowboys...that is not what we do.

Cheers!
M.

Yes A-stan is dangerous etc. but were lowering our numbers (again) and looks (maybe new gov will help) like we wont be seeing tours for a while (were just getting tired of showing up after most of the work is done, we want to do our job and get experience)

[Mongrel]

I can understand that.

Don't worry you are doing good work.
Enjoy the quiet times yah have right now.

I'd love to have the chance you have.
Play safe dude.

Cheers!
M.

[SFontaine]

We're sposed to be such a great peacekeeping nation right? Then why aren't we involved in potentially the most succesful and beneficial peace keeping op ever? Iraq.

[EvanL]

We're sposed to be such a great peacekeeping nation right? Then why aren't we involved in potentially the most succesful and beneficial peace keeping op ever? Iraq.Because we are overstretched due to performing too many of these types of operations in the last 15 years.

[Germaine]

Services and support stretched (no tpt planes,ships need more trps to support cbt arms) cbt trps not stretched (we wouldn't care anyways we need the experience and want tours, were losing our skills---need old fashioned training (need money) and tours for exp)

[Germaine]

We're sposed to be such a great peacekeeping nation right? Then why aren't we involved in potentially the most succesful and beneficial peace keeping op ever? Iraq.
I agree whole heartedly as with many other trps(even more trps to A-stan would help)

[EvanL]

I propose we invade a small militarily insignificant country (possibly Fiji) to brush up on our soldiering skills.
p-)

[Germaine]

Hehehehe
Invade St-Pierre and Michaline, close enough

[EvanL]

Hehehehe
Invade St-Pierre and Michaline, close enough
Funny story actually.
My grandpas regiment LSR, in WW2, was training to invade that island in case the Vichey Government tried setting up shop there. Fortunately it never happened.

[SFontaine]

We're sposed to be such a great peacekeeping nation right? Then why aren't we involved in potentially the most succesful and beneficial peace keeping op ever? Iraq.Because we are overstretched due to performing too many of these types of operations in the last 15 years.

We could at least support it. But no, not even that.

[EvanL]

We're sposed to be such a great peacekeeping nation right? Then why aren't we involved in potentially the most succesful and beneficial peace keeping op ever? Iraq.Because we are overstretched due to performing too many of these types of operations in the last 15 years.

We could at least support it. But no, not even that.We are supporting it.
The RCMP is involved in training the Iraqi Police corps.
We are delivering Aid and money to the reconstruction efforts. And we have ships patrolling the Gulf to prevent smuggling into and out of Iraq.

[Germaine]

cool (LSR?? Lorne Scottish ??)

SFontaine--our gov is too chicken to support anybody, worried about peoples "feelings"

[EvanL]

cool (LSR?? Lorne Scottish ??)

SFontaine--our gov is too chicken to support anybody, worried about peoples "feelings"
LSR-Lake Superiour Regiment, now known as the Lake Superiour Scottish Regiment.

[Germaine]

We're sposed to be such a great peacekeeping nation right? Then why aren't we involved in potentially the most succesful and beneficial peace keeping op ever? Iraq.Because we are overstretched due to performing too many of these types of operations in the last 15 years.

We could at least support it. But no, not even that.We are supporting it.
The RCMP is involved in training the Iraqi Police corps.
We are delivering Aid and money to the reconstruction efforts. And we have ships patrolling the Gulf to prevent smuggling into and out of Iraq.

Think he means supporting their ops at least verbally

[EvanL]

We're sposed to be such a great peacekeeping nation right? Then why aren't we involved in potentially the most succesful and beneficial peace keeping op ever? Iraq.Because we are overstretched due to performing too many of these types of operations in the last 15 years.

We could at least support it. But no, not even that.We are supporting it.
The RCMP is involved in training the Iraqi Police corps.
We are delivering Aid and money to the reconstruction efforts. And we have ships patrolling the Gulf to prevent smuggling into and out of Iraq.

Think he means supporting their ops at least verbally
Well i think we are totally for the destruction of the anti-coalition fighters, since we are already for the War on Terror.

[Germaine]

Question Evanloyd, were did u get those pics, Western Sentinal and dnd site didnt even have all those pics (at the time i went to look)??

[EvanL]

Question Evanloyd, were did u get those pics, Western Sentinal and dnd site didnt even have all those pics (at the time i went to look)??
If your refering to the Operation SOuthern Patricia pics. I got them off of the LFWA site.
Every once in a while i will check in there to see if they added any new galleries.

[Germaine]

Thanks

[ctcboy]

I dont think that you can call Iraq a peace keeping operation. The troops there arent keeping two sides seperated. They are one of the sides and they are engaged in combat operations. Liberal governments have not been real keen on these kinds of operations. A Canadian soldier might actaully kill somebody after all and lord knows they wouldnt want that to happen. Unfourtunatlrey I think that the conservatives are still to far to the right and as a result we are going to be stuck with another 4-5 years of Liberal governance.

[DANJANOU]

I propose we invade a small militarily insignificant country (possibly Fiji) to brush up on our soldiering skills.
p-)

I taken you've never seen and/or worked with the Fijian military. Over half have UN tours under their belt. Fijians also make up a proportionaly high percentage in the British Army especially so in the SAS.

Besides how the hell would we get there? Remember no ships, transport planes etc.

[EvanL]

I propose we invade a small militarily insignificant country (possibly Fiji) to brush up on our soldiering skills.
p-)

I taken you've never seen and/or worked with the Fijian military. Over half have UN tours under their belt. Fijians also make up a proportionaly high percentage in the British Army especially so in the SAS.

Besides how the hell would we get there? Remember no ships, transport planes etc.
One can always dream. p-)

[canuck]

Another surprising fact is a RCAF pilot has been credited with taking Rommel out of action on July 17 1944 when his staff car was strafed in NW Europe.

During the Vietnam War General Dextraze who I believe was the head of the Canadian Army saw his son volunteer for service in the USMC. He was KIA in 1969.

[caleb]

edit: fixed

[East]

Another surprising fact is a RCAF pilot has been credited with taking Rommel out of action on July 17 1944 when his staff car was strafed in NW Europe.

During the Vietnam War General Dextraze who I believe was the head of the Canadian Army saw his son volunteer for service in the USMC. He was KIA in 1969.
the one about the RCAF pilot taking Rommel out of action is true. I read it in the Canadian military newspaper today.