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EdPDX
12-13-2008, 02:51 AM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/jonrw/beforedotjpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/jonrw/afterdotjpg

I like being progressive as the next guy; but this simply does not make sense. By wearing Navy Camo on a ship does this somehow eliminate you from drawing individual fire from an enemy by sub, ship or air? Unless battle strategies have changed whole ships are targeted as opposed to individuals right?

Okay, so not every sailor is serving sea duty. Say you are assigned to a N.A.S. It comes under attack... is this flowery blue supposed to blend in with the native flora? Wouldn't a woodland pattern make more sense and increase your chance for survival?

Forgive me if this has been covered before; I only got rights to post recently and this topic is a sore issue with me. Nothing says "HERITAGE" like "Haliburton, can you handle another uniforms contract?"

Added: No offense meant to our brothers in arms in Greece. OPA!!

Ed

WiraBengis
12-13-2008, 03:09 AM
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr104/TerenceTeng2/DSC04964dotjpg

I should wonder about my uniform too. Well......at least my old uniform.

Eztyga
12-13-2008, 03:14 AM
I should wonder about my uniform too. Well......at least my old uniform.

What enviroment was that supposed to work in? A pajama factory?

Ezy

WiraBengis
12-13-2008, 03:15 AM
What enviroment was that supposed to work in? A pajama factory?

Ezy

Probably. You're not the first person to say it looks like pajamas.

Eztyga
12-13-2008, 03:17 AM
Probably. You're not the first person to say it looks like pajamas.

So what unit is that?

I can't think of a name
12-13-2008, 03:17 AM
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr104/TerenceTeng2/DSC04964dotjpg

I should wonder about my uniform too. Well......at least my old uniform.

They blend in pretty well with that blanket you guys are laying on.

Dalamar
12-13-2008, 03:23 AM
Say you are assigned to a N.A.S. It comes under attack... is this flowery blue supposed to blend in with the native flora? No...

Wouldn't a woodland pattern make more sense and increase your chance for survival?
Woodland, desert or whatever blends in with the local ground and flora features.

Could be worse... we could have Greek uniforms:
Of course these uniforms of the Greek Presidential Guard are ceremonial. However a combat uniform of this basic style with all garments in khaki was used by the light infantry (Evzones) until the early 1920's.

Ngati Tumatauenga
12-13-2008, 03:23 AM
What's wrong with Greek uniforms?

WiraBengis
12-13-2008, 03:25 AM
So what unit is that?

National Service lol. Not to mention if a war breaks out NS trainess will be put on full alert despite the lack of training. Seriously, our training is not sufficient.

LineDoggie
12-13-2008, 03:29 AM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/jonrw/beforedotjpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/jonrw/afterdotjpg

I like being progressive as the next guy; but this simply does not make sense. By wearing Navy Camo on a ship does this somehow eliminate you from drawing individual fire from an enemy by sub, ship or air? Unless battle strategies have changed whole ships are targeted as opposed to individuals right?

Okay, so not every sailor is serving sea duty. Say you are assigned to a N.A.S. It comes under attack... is this flowery blue supposed to blend in with the native flora? Wouldn't a woodland pattern make more sense and increase your chance for survival?

Forgive me if this has been covered before; I only got rights to post recently and this topic is a sore issue with me. Nothing says "HERITAGE" like "Haliburton, can you handle another uniforms contract?"



Ed
2 things:

1-Halliburton doesnt make US military Uniforms, never has in fact, why even bring that up?

2- You do realize thats a Traditional Greek Uniform for Ceremonial duty? Do USN Sailors wear Winter Blue Jumpers aboard ship today?

I kind of understand what you meant by this starting this thread but it's Fail for execution and example.

EdPDX
12-13-2008, 03:35 AM
Nothing wrong with Greek uniforms or Greeks for that matter. I know the uniform I posted is/was a traditional type. I only post it to make a point of how un-battle friendly the new US Navy camo is; meaning one is as effective as the other when it comes to camouflage value.

Does anyone else think this new pattern is either a value and a good return on investment. Do current seamen think this was the best way to get theirs, since the Marines and the Army got "theirs".

Really, what were the Navy planners thinking:


No camo value on board or on land.
In the water the sharks won't be fooled and the rescue planes won't sea you waving or trying to out pace a shark.

Ed

Ngati Tumatauenga
12-13-2008, 03:38 AM
Next time put a little more effort into your communications skills.

Insulting another countries ceremonial uniforms even indirectly is unacceptable.

Go back and edit your post to better reflect your intended message.

Eztyga
12-13-2008, 03:40 AM
See this thread.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=147150

James
12-13-2008, 03:40 AM
EdPDX,

I know you think you've probably come to this site with a lot of knowledge and insight that we've been lacking until we were blessed with your arrival, but please just stop right now.

EdPDX
12-13-2008, 03:48 AM
Linedoggie,

I did not know for certain if Haliburton makes uniforms. My point is that I see the Navy uniforms as a huge boondoggle. Many millions have been wasted away by our Government with regards to this and probably other camo designs. I believe that these requirements are non-starters dreamed up by companies with influence at the top that "are awarded" these contracts, vis-a-vis Haliburton.

My reading has led me to believe that countries get into wars over real estate and the profit it makes in supplying the war machine. In essence the business of war is more often than not just that a business. Look at the people that start wars and then take a close look at the boards they sit on and the company they keep. Have a good look at the Carlyle Group and you'll see all the usual suspects making huge profits as their companies supply everything from weapons to Diet pepsi. I digress.

Haliburton may not make the uniform, in fact they may not own a single subsidiary that owns a textile plant that supplies the fabric... but they very well might.

LineDoggie
12-13-2008, 03:51 AM
Thats just fine and dandy, but in betweeen surmising about it, You've Insulted an Ally. Change your original post about their uniforms

Bro Jangles
12-13-2008, 03:51 AM
wait, so your real upset on US foriegn policy based on the War on terror, and such, and alleged ar prrofitering and wastes and your first line of thought is..... ****ing camo patterns?

EdPDX
12-13-2008, 04:02 AM
No, camo patterns are not my first thought. I wanted to address them. That's all. My political slant figures less into this thread. I was advised that the Big company probably does not profit from uniforms and responded to that as an aside.

I admit my ref to other uniforms was a little thoughtless; but that is all it was. Sometimes it is easy to make this kind of error in judgement when you are trying to make a good impression on a forum.

I don't want to make this thread about hating other soldiers or countries. I was really asking is their anyone else that does not dig the new Navy uniform. Forgive me if I offended you. I have already edited my original post and made apologies.

Frost
12-13-2008, 07:38 AM
People. Please what a useless thread this is.

The Navy Working Uniform is introduced to give a more uniform look to all the branches of the US military. And there will be a woodland and dersert version of it for Navy personel that have to perform guard duties and for the SEALS for example (although they wear whatever they like)

Second; the camouflage uniform looks better, because oil stains, paint ect ect is much less visible. So your uniform will still look good even though it's dirty. With the plain blue uniform this is not the case. So now they can also use this camouflage uniform to wear it when going on land. Normally this would require you to change your working uniform for your decent blue uniform (not sure what it's all called in the US Navy). It's a big plus. It may look a bit silly in the beginning, but for the sailors it's a better uniform

and no; it's camouflage pattern is not meant to camouflage you.

jardhead8185
12-13-2008, 08:43 AM
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr104/TerenceTeng2/DSC04964dotjpg

I should wonder about my uniform too. Well......at least my old uniform.

I think the purpose is the enemy would be laughing so hard they would be unable to get a good sight picture. CRAZY!!!!!

saganuay
12-13-2008, 10:27 AM
Is the USN going to have camo uniforms onboard? Do you have a pic of their proposal? What do you guys wear now cause I have seen guys with shirt / pants and other guys in coveralls.

millstrong
12-13-2008, 12:23 PM
I think what the military is trying to do is distinguish the services from one another. I dont see the big deal. We all fight for the same country why not wear the same camo uniform. IMO They should have all went wooodland/desert marpat.

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 02:19 PM
I'm in the Navy. I've got about sixteen sets of uniforms in my closet. This camo uniform will replace many of them. Have you ever worn dungarees? They suck. I'll be glad to see them go.

The blue splotches aren't designed to camouflage anything but spots and stains.

While I would have preferred getting just straight up navy blue BDUs (like our coveralls), I'm not complaining. Besides, I usually wear the old green BDUs anyways.

bd popeye
12-13-2008, 03:16 PM
I'm in the Navy. I've got about sixteen sets of uniforms in my closet. This camo uniform will replace many of them. Have you ever worn dungarees? They suck. I'll be glad to see them go.

The blue splotches aren't designed to camouflage anything but spots and stains.

While I would have preferred getting just straight up navy blue BDUs (like our coveralls), I'm not complaining. Besides, I usually wear the old green BDUs anyways.

I'm back.:oops:..kinda sorta..in a limited manner.

I could not pass up this thread.:roll:

I apoligize for forsaking this forum. And if I have insulted or disrespected anyone I sincerly apoligize for my childlike behavior. Henceforth I will post only on Naval matters or in the Todays PIX threads.

Apparently EdPDX is "Navally Challenged". The new USN NUW (Navy Working Uniform) will not replace dress uniforms.

Shipmate Hellfish is 100% correct. My son is now a Navy reservist after 9 years of active duty and he really likes the new NWU. They eliminate a lot of USN uniform BS.




http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=16603

Navy Working Uniform (NWU) Concepts Frequently Asked Questions
Story Number: NNS050113-01
Release Date: 1/13/2005 7:22:00 AM

From Task Force Uniform Public Affairs
WASHINGTON (NNS) -- Why are we doing this? Why a new working uniform?

One of the four main objectives of the Task Force Uniform charter, which was signed out by the Vice Chief of Naval Operations in February 2003, was to develop a working uniform for wear at sea or ashore, across all communities, from E-1 through O-10. The more than 40,000 Sailors who took part in the fleetwide survey told us that the current working uniforms are not practical for the Navy working environment, are too costly and difficult to maintain, and do not reflect a professional military appearance. The majority of those surveyed said they preferred a BDU-style uniform.

Why these colors?

We wanted to choose colors that would be distinctive to our naval service, to give our Sailors a recognizable uniform apart from other services and appropriate to the maritime environment. The colors we chose were haze gray, deck gray, navy coverall blue and black. The name tapes on these uniforms will be gold for chiefs and officers, and silver for E-1 through E-6 members.

By using colors that are traditional Navy colors, we continue to uphold our naval heritage while giving our Sailors a uniform that is much more practical for our working environment.

Why the ‘camouflage’ pattern?

The concept uniforms are not intended to be ‘camouflage’ uniforms as is the case with similarly patterned uniforms of the other services. We have no need for camouflage. However, by learning from our past working uniforms as well as the uniforms from other services, the Navy realized that a solid cover uniform shows heavy wear areas much more predominantly than a multicolored pattern.

The solid color uniforms also show wrinkles in the fabric more predominantly, and often a small stain or spot of paint renders a solid colored uniform not wearable. A multicolored uniform alleviates those problems, as well.

The wear test will offer a chance to evaluate a traditional woodland pattern and a modern digital pattern for the working uniform.


What about Sailors who operate in tactical environments, such as Seabees, SEALs?

The NWU concept is designed to be a working uniform, not a tactical uniform. When Sailors are working in tactical environments, such as the desert, or in the field, they will still be outfitted with the appropriate tactical uniforms. Part of the working uniform will include a Gore-Tex parka, as well as a turtleneck sweater to protect against adverse weather conditions.

Will Sailors be allowed to wear this uniform off base?

Yes. This uniform is being designed to be authorized for wear off base while commuting to and from work, but not on liberty.




A photo of the real uniform.

http://www.dezh.de/imghosting/f5d625a750226776c6393b2790bba82edotjpg (http://www.dezh.de/#f5d625a750226776c6393b2790bba82edotjpg)
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NORFOLK, Va. (Nov. 7, 2008) A Sailor wears the Navy working uniform (NWU) while shopping at the Naval Air Station Oceana Navy Exchange. The NWU is intended for year-round wear and will be the standard working uniform ashore by October 2010. The NWU will replace working utilities, tropical working uniforms, wash khakis, winter working blue, aviation working green, and non-tactical/environmental usage of camouflage utility uniforms. Unless otherwise prescribed by the regional commander, the NWU is authorized to be worn at all facilities on base. (U.S. Navy Photo/Released)

saganuay
12-13-2008, 03:30 PM
What are you guys wearing when you go to sea? That won't be it right?

RECON DOC
12-13-2008, 03:39 PM
I'm in the Navy. I've got about sixteen sets of uniforms in my closet. This camo uniform will replace many of them. Have you ever worn dungarees? They suck. I'll be glad to see them go.

The blue splotches aren't designed to camouflage anything but spots and stains.

While I would have preferred getting just straight up navy blue BDUs (like our coveralls), I'm not complaining. Besides, I usually wear the old green BDUs anyways.

Interesting that you mention that. From what I understand, the Panzer uniforms were black for that reason. Oil, grease, etc.

orange
12-13-2008, 03:40 PM
Welcome back Popeye! Been missing your pics in the daily threads and your knowledge in navy matters.

*Leaving yet another cammies thread...*

ZARDOZ
12-13-2008, 03:40 PM
Well, maybe the new uni's can also bring back the "Dazzle" camo jobs of WW I.....

http://cache.wists.com/thumbnails/0/30/0304a29853d1f9f21d073cd8e8f2f9f6-orig
http://www.jeffpylenz.com/Jeffs-blog/M****CRIPTS/SHIPS/ss%20tofua%20leaving%20nelsondotjpg
http://www.danlockton.co.uk/research/images/HMS_Furiousdotjpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2274/1989373275_5e93ba4d64dotjpg (http://gotouring.com/razzledazzle/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/1990114851_09eec20842_odotjpg (http://gotouring.com/razzledazzle/articles/dazzle7.htm)

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 03:41 PM
Interesting that you mention that. From what I understand, the Panzer uniforms were black for that reason. Oil, grease, etc.

The Navy doesn't wear black. ;-)

Gunge
12-13-2008, 03:45 PM
good thread i think alot of sailors will like the new utes, the light blue shirt and denims dont cut it like they used to

BD
real glad to see your back
i hope you saw how many of us missed your expertise, experience, and most of all maturity and guidance, not only from your time in service to your country but as an overall man
and i damn sure missed your daily pics posts and info
welcome back

gunge

RECON DOC
12-13-2008, 03:54 PM
The Navy doesn't wear black. ;-)

They should.p-)

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 04:13 PM
Well... our winter uniforms are black. They call them blues, but they're black.

http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/unireg/chapter3/enlisted/images/em_08dotjpghttp://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/unireg/chapter3/enlisted/images/em_12dotjpg

Britishhawk
12-13-2008, 05:11 PM
That Vessel Camo is actually pretty effective, Id like to see how much it broke up the image when viewing a ship on the horizon with that pattern.

bd popeye
12-13-2008, 05:35 PM
Thanks to all for the kind words! Yes I did read the come back popeye thread..awesome..


Well... our winter uniforms are black. They call them blues, but they're black.

http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/unireg/chapter3/enlisted/images/em_08dotjpghttp://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/unireg/chapter3/enlisted/images/em_12dotjpg

They use to call the uniform on the right "Gunfighters" Or "Johnny Cash" Uniform. Why? They are all black. I wore those Gunfighters many a day in San Diego.. Many a day..

Bro Jangles
12-13-2008, 05:53 PM
they way my father (a retired master chief) explained it to me was that navy blue was was ever 4 threads of black was followed by a blue thread, hence why it looks black.

PS welcome back big daddy

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 08:27 PM
Thanks to all for the kind words! Yes I did read the come back popeye thread..awesome..



They use to call the uniform on the right "Gunfighters" Or "Johnny Cash" Uniform. Why? They are all black. I wore those Gunfighters many a day in San Diego.. Many a day..

Yeah, we still call 'em the Johnny Cash uniforms. I like the winter uniforms a lot, actually. Looks spiffy. The summer whites, on the other hand...

bd popeye
12-13-2008, 09:24 PM
Yeah, we still call 'em the Johnny Cash uniforms. I like the winter uniforms a lot, actually. Looks spiffy. The summer whites, on the other hand...

Well as you know soon you won't have to think about those Tropical White uniforms. Too bad the Johnnie Csah is going away..

For those of you navally challenged the USN is replacing the Tropical White(Short sleeve) and the Winter Working Blue uniforms(Johnnie Cash) with the single year round uniform below. The old fashion Cracker Jack uniform for E-6 and below will remain.

http://www.dezh.de/imghosting/5eb2145de8ed79e949df63dc35a83776dotjpg (http://www.dezh.de/#5eb2145de8ed79e949df63dc35a83776dotjpg)
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WASHINGTON (July 30, 2008) Personnel Specialist 1st Class Howard Williams models the new E-6 and below Service Uniform. The uniform is for year-round wear and replaces summer white and winter blue uniforms and will be available as follows: July, Great Lakes and California; Oct., Northwest and Hawaii; Jan. 2009, Gulf Region and Millington, Tenn.; April 2009, Naval District Washington; July 2009, Tidewater; Oct 2009 Southeast; Jan. 2010, Northeast; April 2010, Europe, Japan and Guam. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Jhi L. Scott/Released)

Ezekiel25:17
12-13-2008, 09:27 PM
I wish the Corps brought back the all khakis. Just sharp.

bd popeye
12-13-2008, 09:37 PM
I wish the Corps brought back the all khakis. Just sharp.

I emember when I was stationed in the Philippines from '75 til' '77. the Marines wore those Khakis uniforms. Very sharp indeed.

Bro Jangles
12-13-2008, 09:37 PM
khaki for E6 and below? blasphemy

Ezekiel25:17
12-13-2008, 09:44 PM
I emember when I was stationed in the Philippines from '75 til' '77. the Marines wore those Khakis uniforms. Very sharp indeed.


To me. It looked how the military should look. You old school, Popeye. Glad to see you are back.

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 09:53 PM
Well as you know soon you won't have to think about those Tropical White uniforms. Too bad the Johnnie Csah is going away..


Yeah. I'd say about 50% of the people I know in the Navy have gone out and bought the new uniform already. It's nice looking and all, but I like the Johnny Cash. When the time for the white uniforms comes back (usually May), I may go out and get this new set. Maybe I'll even get them issued to me before then...

Ordie
12-13-2008, 11:15 PM
http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/unireg/Chapter3/Enlisted/images/em_15dotjpg

Nothing beats this uniform.
I wore this while stationed at Diego Garcia for a year. I usually rolled my socks down to my flight boots for more 'draft'.

The uniform I hated was the denim bellbottom dugaree pants. They were very uncomfortable especially with the tiny pockets.

I like the new utility uniforms since they can be used for any tasks (damage control, watches, and good to hide the paint droppings)

BD Popeye,
Welcome back!!!!
I hope you had a good liberty!!!

IYAOYAS!!!!

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 11:17 PM
IYAOYAS!!!!

^ Elitist snob!

I wear my coveralls around the house when I'm cleaning. They're comfortable.

Ordie
12-13-2008, 11:18 PM
khaki for E6 and below? blasphemy

One less item to worry about in your sea bag.

It sucked when I had to lug all of my winter blues with me to Diego Garcia for a year.

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 11:20 PM
One less item to worry about in your sea bag.

It sucked when I had to lug all of my winter blues with me to Diego Garcia for a year.

I have a couple buddies based out in Guam and Hawaii who couldn't even find their blues when they had to go to Norfolk.

Ordie
12-13-2008, 11:21 PM
I wear my coveralls around the house when I'm cleaning. They're comfortable.

Funny, I wear my nomex green flight suit when working around the house.

My girlfriend saw me once wearing them......

.......I never did get a chance to finish my chores.

Ordie
12-13-2008, 11:23 PM
I have a couple buddies based out in Guam and Hawaii who couldn't even find their blues when they had to go to Norfolk.

I knew several 7th Fleet Sailors who've always purchased thier uniforms (with liberty cuffs) from a Hong Kong tailor.

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 11:25 PM
What are liberty cuffs? Can you tell I'm a sand sailor, not a sea sailor?

Ordie
12-13-2008, 11:47 PM
What are liberty cuffs? Can you tell I'm a sand sailor, not a sea sailor?

Hong Kong tailors usually would sew silk Asian embroidery the inside cuff of the Navy Blue uniform. So when you're on Liberty, you just roll up your sleeves.

They can also embroider the inside of your back flap or the 13 button fly of your blues pants.

Look at Steve McQueen cuffs in the movie "Sand Pebbles"

http://www.navydp.com/Navy%20Images/steve_dragons2_Mannydotjpg

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 11:49 PM
^ I never noticed the cuffs on McQueen before, but I am trying to roll my dixie cup like his. Damn, I love that movie.

I wore my dress blues for the first time a week ago. I hate the 13-button fly. It is not conducive to drinking.

Ordie
12-13-2008, 11:57 PM
I wore my dress blues for the first time a week ago. I hate the 13-button fly. It is not conducive to drinking.

Next to the government issued eyeglasses, they are considered a form of birth control.

But don't worry, the Hong Kong tailors would supplement fake sew the buttons and add zippers.

Hellfish
12-13-2008, 11:59 PM
I must go to this "Hong Kong" of which you speak.

The irony of all this is that I joined the Navy to go to sea... and now I work in the "dirt" Navy, or as we call it now, the Narmy.

bd popeye
12-14-2008, 03:00 PM
Love the Steve McQueen pix from "The Sand Pebbles" Great film. I wore my white hat like him. All broke down with wings..I was too cool..

That embroidery on his cuffs used to be called "liberty cuffs"..back in the day..aarrvv...

Hellfish
12-14-2008, 06:03 PM
How do you get the white hat to look like that? I've tried rolling it, ironing it...?

BMF_EOD
12-15-2008, 07:59 AM
Roll it wet- let it dry.




......bootcamp.p-)

Hellfish
12-15-2008, 03:46 PM
I went to Army boot camp. :p

hardcharger
12-15-2008, 07:35 PM
National Service lol. Not to mention if a war breaks out NS trainess will be put on full alert despite the lack of training. Seriously, our training is not sufficient.

Seriously dude, Malaysian Govt has been trying to follow its neigbor's National Service and I think it's friggin' waste of money and time not to mention the camos they have! It's a disgrace to have such a uniform. They could at least handed out some Green blouse/Olive Drab. What were they thinking??

Get a load of this too guys, The Malaysian Fire Department has camoflage too, with orange and some retarded colors in it. What are they trying to prove? Trying to blend in with the FIRE or perhaps making it difficult for their team mates to look for them in case of emergency? The mind boggles!

And the Police Field Force! Another Epic! marine blue camo for urban use!

bd popeye
12-15-2008, 11:13 PM
How do you get the white hat to look like that? I've tried rolling it, ironing it...?


Roll it wet- let it dry.

Roll it wet and let it dry..Oh hell yea..have not heard that for many, many a year.

I did not wear my white hat like these shipmates below but these shipmates from the Ceremonial Guard in DC have by far the coolest looking white hats in existence.

http://www.dezh.de/imghosting/83609d1c11d535e991e40b4f3aad64a0dotjpg (http://www.dezh.de/#83609d1c11d535e991e40b4f3aad64a0dotjpg)
Download HiRes (http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/071023-N-5549O-357dotjpg)


WASHINGTON, D.C. (Oct. 23, 2007) - Members of the Navy Ceremonial Guard fold the Medal of Honor Flag that is presented to Daniel and Maureen Murphy, the parents of Navy SEAL Lt. Michael Murphy during the special ceremony in honor of their son held at the United States Navy Memorial. Lt. Murphy was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor on Oct. 22 in a ceremony held at the White House. Murphy is the first service member to receive the honor for actions during Operation Enduring Freedom and the first Navy recipient of the medal since Vietnam. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Kevin S. O'Brien (RELEASED)

Eztyga
12-16-2008, 04:54 AM
Hong Kong tailors usually would sew silk Asian embroidery the inside cuff of the Navy Blue uniform. So when you're on Liberty, you just roll up your sleeves.

They can also embroider the inside of your back flap or the 13 button fly of your blues pants.

Look at Steve McQueen cuffs in the movie "Sand Pebbles"



Vietnamese tailors did it to. There is a rig in the Navy Heritage Centre with this same design. It was common in the RAN up until the late 80's.

Edit: I love my blues and wear them at every oppurtunity, however I hate the ice-cream suit.

Ezy

WiraBengis
12-16-2008, 04:58 AM
Seriously dude, Malaysian Govt has been trying to follow its neigbor's National Service and I think it's friggin' waste of money and time not to mention the camos they have! It's a disgrace to have such a uniform. They could at least handed out some Green blouse/Olive Drab. What were they thinking??

Get a load of this too guys, The Malaysian Fire Department has camoflage too, with orange and some retarded colors in it. What are they trying to prove? Trying to blend in with the FIRE or perhaps making it difficult for their team mates to look for them in case of emergency? The mind boggles!

And the Police Field Force! Another Epic! marine blue camo for urban use!

I have to say those stuff are stupid, the camos etc ( I once was proud wearing them,hehe) but the Fire Department's "camo" are only for foot drills,exercises and non-fire rescue etc. For fire fighting,rescuing in fire, they use fluoroscent(can't figure the right spelling) uniforms.

KillerBD
12-19-2008, 12:48 AM
Should fully be in effect by the end of 2010. The sooner the better if you ask me. I think I speak for most when I say UTILITIES SUCK!
Original Link (http://www.npc.navy.mil/CommandSupport/USNavyUniforms/uniform_photos.htm)
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/081107-N-9999X-004dotjpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/081107-N-9999X-003dotjpg
There are also new service uniforms out that are going to replace the working whites and blues:
http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/0BFB22FD-5C5C-41FA-A2A2-8EA1AECF5E57/0/SUFemaledotjpghttp://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/C322315B-4F9B-480D-9A63-D524D159ACF9/0/SUMaledotjpg
Sorry for the low rez Service uniform pics (but I could care less about the SU, I wear my actual working uniform alot more).

Here is a video just describing the NWU, not that exciting. But informative to those who care:

http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/rdonlyres/56003C64-95DF-4B98-B496-45A8DECDF8BE/0/NWUFINAL.wmv

So tell us what ya think, you like it, hate it, start posting... Don't hate plz p-)

The rollout of the uniform has already began in some Navy regions like in wonderful Norfolk, VA as of the start of this month.

Sierrakitten
12-19-2008, 12:59 AM
Should be just the thing if anybody falls overboard. Sorry, we couldn't find them in the water with that new camo....

Aghost
12-19-2008, 01:07 AM
Should be just the thing if anybody falls overboard. Sorry, we couldn't find them in the water with that new camo....
Good news then, so your enemy couldn't find you too if you have to infiltrate

He219
12-19-2008, 01:20 AM
Please, no HOTLINKING!

Cornerstone
12-19-2008, 01:27 AM
They look like Iraqi national police uniforms, but very nice indeed, my bro might get those...

G-AWZT
12-19-2008, 02:08 AM
My father who served in the USN from '44-53 saw the new look in a Navy publication. He said , "What the hell is that?!".

SkyUS
12-19-2008, 02:14 AM
Are the new service uniforms replacing the white/navy blue ones used now?

If so, I am kind of sad, I always like them.

Antimatty
12-19-2008, 02:31 AM
well, them being camouflaged serves no purpose , but they are in line with the uniforms of the other branches and so give a sense of military cohesion . personnel wearing them will be easily identifiable due to the blue color, although i wonder if they will make corpsmen wear them too . would kinda suck to wear blue in the desert .

Gerle
12-19-2008, 02:33 AM
Green side Corpsmen already wear MCCUU, our cammies.

Bringer of Greater Things
12-19-2008, 03:31 AM
Wow. A completely useless camo uniform.
To quote my brother, who is in the navy, "The 'E' in Navy stands for 'Efficiency.'"

James
12-19-2008, 03:33 AM
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8223/sumaletm0dotjpg

That looks an awful lot like a USMC Charlie.

Hellfish
12-19-2008, 05:25 AM
Wow. A completely useless camo uniform.
To quote my brother, who is in the navy, "The 'E' in Navy stands for 'Efficiency.'"

It's only supposed to camouflage stains and wrinkles. That's all.



http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8223/sumaletm0dotjpg

That looks an awful lot like a USMC Charlie.

Yeah. It does. I'll miss the working blues, but glad to be rid of the whites.

KillerBD
12-20-2008, 01:14 AM
Wow. A completely useless camo uniform.
To quote my brother, who is in the navy, "The 'E' in Navy stands for 'Efficiency.'"

Obviously you haven't had the wonderful pleasure of wearing our top of the line space age utilities:
http://www.navy.mil/view_photos_top.asp
A nice comparison between the utilities and the new cammies. Yea I have to say the cammies win, in comfort and appearance. And plus I'm getting tired of this: "Are you a janitor?".... "No, I'm actually in the Navy"... "Oh, thats cool...." :bash:

hardcharger
01-02-2009, 07:18 AM
I have to say those stuff are stupid, the camos etc ( I once was proud wearing them,hehe) but the Fire Department's "camo" are only for foot drills,exercises and non-fire rescue etc. For fire fighting,rescuing in fire, they use fluoroscent(can't figure the right spelling) uniforms.

No offense but I do hope they give those men in uniform something to be proud of.

bd popeye
01-09-2009, 02:05 PM
Are the new service uniforms replacing the white/navy blue ones used now?

If so, I am kind of sad, I always like them.

Nope.They do not replace the crackerjack style uniform i.e. dres blues & dress white for E-6 and below.. They do replace all working uniforms.

MichaelF
03-09-2009, 02:15 AM
Are the Aviation Working Greens being killed off, too, in favor of the Service Dress Khakis (for Chiefs and Officers)?

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r108/marmer01/Military/Av-greendotjpg


http://a95.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/128/l_4c0b596d28166242c74b464ceceb774edotjpg