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Jaff Sassani
12-13-2008, 12:38 PM
IF YOU LOVE PEACE AND HUMANITY PLEASE DO OR SUPPORT THE TRUTH BY PRACTISING “POSITVE THOGHT, POSITIVE SAYING, POSITIVE DEED INSTEAD OF EVIL THOUGHT, EVIL SAYING, EVIL DEED”
Please read our messages in the articles listed in our website below too:
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Here is new information’s about resent policy of the US Government with regards of Iran
“IRAN: Secret dealings between U.S., Iran and Saudi Arabia (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/10/iran-secret-dea.html)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/10/iran-secret-dea.html

Iran and the U.S. are bitter rivals now. But a report in the Los Angeles Times Friday (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-shah17-2008oct17,0,7636765.story)delved into a time just before the 1979 Islamic Revolution when the two countries were the best of buddies, at least on the surface.
The report, based on a scholarly research paper just published (http://www.mideasti.org/middle-east-journal/article/showdown-doha-the-secret-oil-deal-that-helped-sink-shah-iran)in the Middle East Journal, prompted a flood of e-mails and commentary, both positive and negative. It suggested that the Nixon and Ford administrations sought to undermine Mohammed Reza Shah Pahlavi in an effort to roll back oil prices.
The plan worked. Oil prices went down. But the U.S. may have gotten more than it bargained for. A drop in oil prices in early 1977 led to dramatic instability in Iran that turned into the revolution.
Saudi Arabia worked behind the scenes with the U.S. to lower oil prices, according to scholar Andrew Scott Cooper's paper, entitled, "Showdown at Doha: The Secret Oil Deal That Helped Sink the Shah of Iran."
IRAN: THE US GOVERNMENT AND IRAN FROM THE SHAH TO KHOMEINI
The US Government supported Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi to accede to the throne in January 1942 after his father was overthrown by the Britain and the Soviet Union in August 1941. Because Reza Shah refused to expel the German nationals, Britain and the Soviet Union invaded Iran, arrested the Shah of Iran Reza Shah Pahlavi and sent him into exile, taking control of Iran's communications, railroad and oil.
The US Government brings Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi back to power one more time in the famous CIA coup in 1953 which is vivid in the mind of the Iranian people until now. That was wrong policy. The right policy was to support the popular PM Mohammad Mosaddeq then, who becomes the hope of the Iranian People to bring them democratic system of Government. We call for true democratic system of Government today which is only possible if we get United Economically. We hope the new Government of the USA will “treat us Iranian like the Europeans” and helping us so we can form our own AU similar to the EU.
We call upon the US Government and the USA people plus the EU, Russian and Israel for the help so we can create the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) which will liberate our people from the hateful and dark doctrines of the Sayyid Ayatollah Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s (IRI) ideas and his disciples.
Let me begin by saying that the Iranian people never had peace since the Islamic Arab army conquered our home land. We are going to explain the failed policy of the Pahlavi Dynasty in Iran below.
The Pahlavi Dynasty of Iran (1925-1979)
The Pahlavi Dynasty was created by the Reza Shah with the promise of Iran for all Iranian. He called the country “Iran” which stands for the Aryan people. He imposed one of the local languages called Persian on the Iranian people. This action divided Iranian people more instead of uniting them. The languages used in Iran today are called “Persian language” which is full of the Arabic words. It is not Persian and it is not Iranian either. He made mistakes. He should call it “Aryan (Iranian) language” instead of calling it “Persian language”. Plus he did have option to clean it up from the Arabic words. by replacing those Arabic words with the Kurdish, Old Azeri, Gallani, Mazendarani, Lori, Laki, Gorini, Bluchi, Tajiki and other languages of the Aryan branch’s. The word “Iran” alone did not bring unity for our people. The denial and use of force to keep “Iran” as one country did bring the Islamic extremist back to power.
The Iranian Sayyeid Arab families or the ruler of Iran (1979-current)
The Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) was created by the Ayatollah Khomeini with the promise of Islam and Iran for all Iranian. He proved that he is not sincere day one. It become clear to the Iranian people that he is not going to solve any problems in Iran, as soon as he did put the Ayatollah Mohammad Kazem Shariatmadri under house arrest because he did want freedom for the Azeri people in Iran based on the new Islamic constitution for Iran. Ayatollah Khomeini went crazy but what was his solution, what was his secret plan, for so many problems are facing Iranian people. He did start killing people and take them to wars. Is this solved any problems for Iran. Now they are building Atomic Bombs, why they are building the Bomb? The questions for the Islamic leaders are this; to stay in power for any cost will solve any problems for Iranian people?
The Islamic Republic of Iran will have the same fate as did the Pahlavi Dynasty before them. Iran was ruled during many Empires before Islam by allowing Iranian people regional federations through the history of Iran. After Islam conquered our country, they used the same method of federations; even Turkish nomads ruler of Iran used the federation regions.
The Qajar dynasty started the centralizations programs after losing lot of the territories to the Russians and others around Iran. They took advice from Europeans to implement strong central Government which cost them the throne of Iran.
The Pahlavi Dynasty under Reza Shah went one stop farther by adopting one language and very central Government which cost them to be overthrown from the power.
Iran as a country was made from many federated regions. Every region did have the Shah that is why they are calling the Shah of Iran Shah of Shahs or in Iranian language he is called Shahan-shah.
The Islamic Republic of Iran is busy to build Atomic Bomb. The Atomic Bombs are built to impose the ****te Spiritual leaders as the ruler of the Islamic world especially the Arab world. They are dreaming to convert all the Islam into the ****te Islam. Then they are waiting for the time of the appearance of the twelve’s Imam Mehdi (SHIAs 12th Imam) (Na’uzubillah) so they can turn in power to him. They believe the Imam Mehdi will conquer the world and convert all the people to ****te Islam. They need Atomic Bomb to finish the mission.
In conclusion the US Government should adopt the policy of the friendship with the Iranian people. They should help Iranian people just like what they did for the Europeans people after the World War II. The US Government should declare their constrictive intention that wants the true partnership with the Iranian people then you can expect the Iranian people support and positive respond.


Sincerely,

Jaff Sassani
From the SKDC
Nov-10-2008

FlintHillBilly
12-13-2008, 02:22 PM
IF YOU LOVE PEACE AND HUMANITY PLEASE DO OR SUPPORT THE TRUTH BY PRACTISING “POSITVE THOGHT, POSITIVE SAYING, POSITIVE DEED INSTEAD OF EVIL THOUGHT, EVIL SAYING, EVIL DEED”
In conclusion the US Government should adopt the policy of the friendship with the Iranian people. They should help Iranian people just like what they did for the Europeans people after the World War II. The US Government should declare their constrictive intention that wants the true partnership with the Iranian people then you can expect the Iranian people support and positive respond.




The beginning of your thread sounds like a chain letter trying to convince people of some topic. My question to you would be. Why should we adopt the policy of friendship with the iran if they clearly degrade our friends and make empty threats to them? Weve tried to deal with Iran but it seems to be only on thier terms and what not. This is your second Iran thread, whats the deal?

Jaff Sassani
12-13-2008, 02:34 PM
We are talking about the Iranian people not current Iranian Government. We are trying to point out the differences between Iranian people and Iranian Government. We are publishing articles to explain Iran and Iranian people for English speaking countries.
We hope they will understand what is going on in Iran. The Iranian people are controlled by force of Islamic extremist. We want to replace the Government of Iran peacefully. That is why we are writing to many articles so we can inform the public about the danger of the Islamic Republic of Iran for humanity.
If they have Atomic Bombs then we the Iranian people get hurt before other nations.
Thank you for asking the questions.

gosciu555
12-13-2008, 08:02 PM
We are talking about the Iranian people not current Iranian Government. We are trying to point out the differences between Iranian people and Iranian Government. We are publishing articles to explain Iran and Iranian people for English speaking countries.
We hope they will understand what is going on in Iran. The Iranian people are controlled by force of Islamic extremist. We want to replace the Government of Iran peacefully. That is why we are writing to many articles so we can inform the public about the danger of the Islamic Republic of Iran for humanity.
If they have Atomic Bombs then we the Iranian people get hurt before other nations.
Thank you for asking the questions.


To all english-speaking ppl present, if you want to get a basic view of Iran, check this out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9161934809152225169&ei=1lpESYreAYf0-QGm5tWnDA&q=bbc+in+iran&hl=en

FlintHillBilly
12-13-2008, 10:53 PM
Okay i see what you are saying. I read in the article "the people" but i just sort of assumed Iran in general. Sorry

Elfstone44
12-13-2008, 11:14 PM
The US had nothing at all to do with the ascension of the Pahlavis. We may have had something to do with 1953..we may..but that was to save your butts from Godless communism...you should thank us.

As for 1978..its you who have created your enemies. Shi'a Islam needs them. Shi'as are so hated in the Muslim world that to maintain control they need to create an external and an internal enemy to justify the horror you inflict on your people and to let the Mullah's continue to collect their monies.
...--The external enemy for you is the US and Israel...there is no reason for this-you just need a buggaboo to allow your murderous totalitarian incompetent reign to continue. You've wrecked the economy and destroyed the impetutus of a free Persian genius...you're just religous thugs worse that Savak ever was.
...-- The internal enemy is the Bahais and the Zoroastrians. You fear them..why? Because your ignorant Mullah crap can't stand up to their free intellectual and religious arguments.

You need fear to keep your Butt in power. And in creating this, you have destroyed your country. You have isolated yourself by arrogance ("we are Persian"), ignorance ("you can't read anything except what we say you can read") and isolation ("we believe what we say because we believe what we say").

This Ayatollah Iranian government is a travesty in Persian history. I cannot remember anytime in Persian history where the Ayatollah's ruled. And, it will fall and the Iranian people will be free to pursue their genius, historically the greatest and most innovative of the Central Asian civilizations..under the Ayatollahs a terror of incompentence and hatred. You have destroyed a great civilization by ignorance and BS. And the Persian people will see you to your graves...and very very soon. Good luck...

Jacknola
12-13-2008, 11:43 PM
Another thing these people may succeed in accomplishing is the physical destruction of the Persian peoples... by purposfully, or by accident launching a nuclear war against, pick one: 1. Israel, 2. Saudi-Sunni, 3. United States; 4. Russia.

In a year or two, if by some chance a nuclear bomb somehow goes off in or near the US or Israel, the default assumption will be that Im-a-jackass actually did what he was been loudly threatening, poisoning the atmoshpere with his invective. Unfortunatley, in that case, the next thing to poison the atmosphere will be atomized Iranians and no one will stop to ask for "proof."

Only lunatics waltz around repeatedly and publically shouting "death to xxxxx" when xxxxx has nuclear weapons and is heartly tired of drip drip murder and terrorism against its citizens.

How is it possible that Iranians can be proud when the rest of the world thinks of them in the same context as North Korea, The Hezebolla, and Al Queada?

Jaff Sassani
12-16-2008, 11:46 AM
The people in America should not waste time to look for solution instead of going to the depressions. We are looking and hope for the success of the new administration. The people should pressure him to be clean and make him work harder for the country. If every person gets involved to watch the corruption, lobbyist and other form of corruption to be eliminated then and only then there are hope that America will get out of this mismanagements of the Bush administrations.
America needs overseas market too to get out of this problem facing the existence of America. We are proposing the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to the EU. The kinds of plan we are talking about are going to affect the revival of the American as the descent and fare power in the world.
If America follows the old policies of last 60 years, then America will be just like the former Soviet Union. The country did very good jobs in the election by electing new bloods. The questions are, the new President understands the problem facing the country or not.
If President Obama really understands the problem then he or his supporters should look at every proposal for saving America. We are one of the positive forces for helping ourselves and America. We need you and you need us.

SpartanWarrior198
12-16-2008, 12:20 PM
Look, I know there's a big difference between the wants of a country's populace and those of its government...

But in all honesty, I don't see this topic going very far before it turns into a flame fest and a mod locks it... :|

apadana
12-16-2008, 05:36 PM
The US had nothing at all to do with the ascension of the Pahlavis. We may have had something to do with 1953..we may..but that was to save your butts from Godless communism...you should thank us.


The communist argument is just pointless. Dr. Mosadagh opposed communism and was a big believer of Democracy. He tried to open his arms to the UK and the US but he was denied , declined, disrespected, and eventually overthrown by a UK-US backed coup. The only crime Dr Mosadagh committed was nationalizing the Angelo-Iranian company. And he only did that to make Iran a better place by making revenue from Iranian natural resources instead of giving it to the Brits for practically free. Can you please post one respected source which shows Dr.Mosdagh was a believer of communism?

It makes me so damn mad when people make uneducated statements. The US made a BIG MISTAKE by backing the coup. Even the Clinton administration finally admitted after so many years so why cant you?

apadana
12-16-2008, 11:22 PM
Only lunatics waltz around repeatedly and publically shouting "death to xxxxx" when xxxxx has nuclear weapons and is heartly tired of drip drip murder and terrorism against its citizens.

How is it possible that Iranians can be proud when the rest of the world thinks of them in the same context as North Korea, The Hezebolla, and Al Queada?

Iran has nuclear weapons? Where did you hear that?
The Iranian government has been shouting “Death to America” for 30 years now and its just a empty political slogan. Do you remember something called the Iran Contra Crises? The US was giving the same Ayatollah who was shouting death to America and taking hostages American weapons and so were the Israelis. The US even sent a envoy of 2 politicians to Tehran . When they arrived at Mehrabad International Airport in Tehran they gave a cake to their Iranian counterparts with a key on it symbolizing opening the door to full diplomatic relationship. And this all occurred while the Iranians were shouting “death to America” louder then ever before and had the Beusher nuclear power plant. You need to understand reality , everything is not just black and white. There are details inside the headlines which one should examine . Iran suddenly came on the spotlight after Saddam was overthrown. Why? Because its in the US and Israel’s best interest to make Iran weaker since Saddam is no longer a threat. THIS IS ALL POLTICS AND NOTHING MORE. There are no nuclear weapons and there wont be a holocaust committed by the Iranians.

spider1
12-16-2008, 11:25 PM
Well our problem with iran is only only the leadership i hope somehow that the ppl will retake their country but i dont think its possible so only intervention from outside can help

apadana
12-17-2008, 12:03 AM
Well our problem with iran is only only the leadership i hope somehow that the ppl will retake their country but i dont think its possible so only intervention from outside can help

Most Iranians are against outside intervention. If anything does happen it has to happen from within. If there is outside interference that successfully removes the current government then Iran would become like Iraq. A power vacuum will be created and different groups will be fighting each other for power . If the Iranians managed to overthrow the dictator Shah who was notorious for torturing his citizens and creating fear then they can also overthrow the current government.