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KrasotkaJS
12-14-2008, 11:19 AM
By David Grossack

There once was a nation called Rhodesia. ....
....Located in southern Africa, Rhodesia was a nation with a European minority which ruled over black Africans. Rhodesian government and society were badly flawed, and it was racist. But black Rhodesians had a better standard of living than black people anywhere else in Africa and black Africans smuggled themselves into Rhodesia for good paying jobs and a more comfortable life.

World opinion hated Rhodesia. It was a very isolated country, subject to boycotts, exclusions from international organizations and constant condemnation by the politically correct media of the world.

It was a technologically advanced and sophisticated country, which could easily destroy any of its neighbors and suppress local insurrections, and which was repeatedly militarily victorious.

Salisbury and Bulawayo were the major cities. Modern and industrialized, they were the base for an economy that was widely believed to be strengthened, rather than hindered, by sanctions.

Somewhere along the line Rhodesia just lost the will to fight. The country, to put it simply, self -annihilated. In 1979 the government allowed violent Black Nationalist parties into the mainstream of the political process in an ill advised power sharing program. White flight began and a Marxist dictator by the name of Robert Mugabe emerged in solid control of the country, and remains dictator to this day. Rhodesia's only ally, South Africa, had abandoned support, and many white Rhodesians fled to South Africa.

The safety of those white people who remained in Rhodesia has been a continuous problem. Murder, rape and confiscation of assets have been the rule, not the exception. Most are now gone.

The dynamic city of Salisbury, renamed Harare, is a dysfunctional Third World city. Rhodesia itself is renamed Zimbabwe and its once thriving economy is a shambles with a worthless currency, brutal repressive state machinery and a population which hates and fears its government.

Sadly, Israel is enthusiastically signing up to be the next Rhodesia. Like Rhodesia, it is beset by weaker guerrilla armies’ intent on its destruction who are supported by foreign powers.

Like Rhodesia, it is subject to boycotts and isolation in many quarters and is disliked by the politically correct world.

Like Rhodesia, its leaders are very ready to make drastic compromises under foreign pressure which clearly jeopardize the country's existence and character.

Like Rhodesia, Israel has the capacity to annihilate its enemies in a day or two but is too cowered by inhibitions. It is certainly a nuclear power, has a respected air force, and technology that makes it no less than the third or fourth strongest military power on Earth, yet, like Rhodesia., it no longer wishes to exist. Mark my words.

Unlike Rhodesia which excluded black folk from its political processes, Israel has always had Arab citizens who vote, hold office and participate actively in the mainstream of the economy and society. It is in no sense a racist society.

However, it is besieged by Palestinian Arab enemies who clearly want the whole Jewish population of the country dead and whom have massacred Jewish men, women and babies with glee, with the material support of Iran and the Bush family's good friends, the Saudi royal family.

Oil industry harlot Condoleezza Rice, at the behest of the Bush-Baker petro pimps, is now convincing Israeli Prime Minister Olmert to withdraw from Israel's vital territories of Judea and Samaria, and even much of Jerusalem. Not only will this leave Israel subject to even more deadly rocket attacks, it means the loss of historically and religiously significant locales that will separate Israel from much of its Biblical heritage and will further psychologically weaken the country.

The brain drain has started. Israelis are flocking to California, Massachusetts and New York to avoid living under the terrorist threats that policies of weakness have created.

If there is any question about Olmert's lack of competence, note what happened when he ordered Israel to abandon Gaza. Daily rocket attacks on adjacent cities have created near ghost towns as the population is fleeing. Rather than block utilities and drench the savages with some well deserved napalm, Olmert is a perpetual capitulationist. In Lebanon, the enemy stockpiles missiles with bacteria warheads.

Israel's disease of empathy for its genocidal adversaries and pandering to terrorists who see every goodwill gesture as weakness is leading to its rapid destruction.

History since time immemorial is filled with the legacies of countries such as Rhodesia that lacked the vision and resolve to prevent the awful consequences of living under hostile adversaries.

Israel, founded after the Jews experienced the worst possible consequences of being a minority in Europe, is going further than Rhodesia ever did in ensuring its own demise. It is actively supporting one terrorist faction against the other, in hopes it will win a friend. This has steadily proven illusory, counter productive and dangerous.

The Israelis do not seem good students of history. I hope they will prove me wrong.


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Connaught Ranger
12-14-2008, 11:20 AM
try using bigger sized type this is hard on my tired old eyes:roll:.

In reality NO comparison between the two countries.

Invisigoth
12-14-2008, 11:25 AM
try using bigger sized type this is hard on my tired old eyes:roll:.

In reality NO comparison between the two countries.

Hold CTRL- and the scroll upwards with your Mouse Wheel ;]

Rudolph
12-14-2008, 11:26 AM
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Will read it later, but actually you'll see US MOD holding sessions on Rhodesia and South Africa and how to apply methods used. Politically things are more similar than militarily though, then we're usually grouped with North-Ireland as well. I think Israel is on top of all this anyway...

Connaught Ranger
12-14-2008, 11:31 AM
Hold CTRL- and the scroll upwards with your Mouse Wheel ;]

Cant tired old fingersroflthere is a wheel on a mouse?? No way dude:p

Player
12-14-2008, 11:39 AM
Good article, the author clearly knows what's going on here.

Thank you for sharing it KrasotkaJS.

Invisigoth
12-14-2008, 11:46 AM
Cant tired old fingersroflthere is a wheel on a mouse?? No way dude:p

I guess your computer doesn't have a mousewheel p-)

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Ozzy[NO]
12-14-2008, 11:54 AM
"Oil industry harlot Condoleezza Rice, at the behest of the Bush-Baker petro pimps"

Hehe, I couldn't help to laugh at that sentence. "petro pimp", nice one :)

Interesting article

Rudolph
12-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Good article, the author clearly knows what's going on here.

Thank you for sharing it KrasotkaJS.

As an Israeli you agree with the article, then?

Elemental666
12-14-2008, 12:01 PM
Good article, the author clearly knows what's going on here.

On what's going on here, yes. But the comparison to Rhodesia has nothing to do with reality. Entirely different situations.

Rudolph
12-14-2008, 12:03 PM
On what's going on here, yes. But the comparison to Rhodesia has nothing to do with reality. Entirely different situations.

But surely then one could simply so no two nations are similar and not draw any comparisons? There was a good article on defeat-by-pacifism in Time not too long ago. That story for instance can be applied to any country.

*But I recon' as per usual this will be another uneventful "we are too afraid to use the word 'Israel'" thread. I know I wouldn't.

alexz
12-14-2008, 12:22 PM
try using bigger sized type this is hard on my tired old eyes:roll:.

In reality NO comparison between the two countries.

The only comparison is sadly the only one that matters and that's the will to fight.
Israel's will to fight decreases everyday with the majority of popualtion more concerned with events taking place at the Israeli big-brother reality show then events concerning Israel's existance.

OnTheRocks
12-14-2008, 12:45 PM
Perhaps you should introduce the Palestinians to Big Brother and other reality tv shows to even the odds a little.

alexz
12-14-2008, 04:22 PM
Perhaps you should introduce the Palestinians to Big Brother and other reality tv shows to even the odds a little.

unfortunetly hamas has other plans for Al Aqsa TV broadcasts.

Red River
12-15-2008, 04:31 AM
Good article, I can see the connection but there are still quite a few differences. Rhodesia's military was having alot of problems by 1979. Equipment was in rather poor condition, moral was low among the troops, I've even heard rumors that they were recruiting boys as young as sixteen. They were pretty much forced to use Mercs as well. Rhodesia was landlocked as well, so bringing weapons in was fairly difficult under sanctions. Although they did get some Russian tanks from South Africa and Huey Helicopters from Israel. Rhodesia was also never a recognized state, when the UDI leadership declared independence they were never recognized by the UN, so they had no voice in the UN. The UN placed sanctions on them, which both sides of the Cold War tended to respect. The terrorists on the other hand, were recieving support from the Soviet Union and even had SA-7 shoulder launch SAMs.

Israel on the other hand still has an outstanding military, are a recognized nation, and are seen as a key ally of the United States.

KrasotkaJS
12-15-2008, 12:34 PM
I have not read anything about the low morale of the Rhodesian Army or about them drafting 16 year olds. From what I've read, they were always in high spirits. Morale was especially high among the Selous Scouts and RLI. Many wanted to continue the fight against ZANU-PF. After Ian Smith handed power over, many of the Rhodesian Soldiers and their families traveled to South Africa and joined the 5 Reconaissance Commando. There were also alot of Black Selous Scouts among them.




Good article, I can see the connection but there are still quite a few differences. Rhodesia's military was having alot of problems by 1979. Equipment was in rather poor condition, moral was low among the troops, I've even heard rumors that they were recruiting boys as young as sixteen. They were pretty much forced to use Mercs as well. Rhodesia was landlocked as well, so bringing weapons in was fairly difficult under sanctions. Although they did get some Russian tanks from South Africa and Huey Helicopters from Israel. Rhodesia was also never a recognized state, when the UDI leadership declared independence they were never recognized by the UN, so they had no voice in the UN. The UN placed sanctions on them, which both sides of the Cold War tended to respect. The terrorists on the other hand, were recieving support from the Soviet Union and even had SA-7 shoulder launch SAMs.

Israel on the other hand still has an outstanding military, are a recognized nation, and are seen as a key ally of the United States.

Bert
12-16-2008, 12:50 PM
Israel is boycotted by the Arab world and some of their supporters. Rhodesia was boycotted by the entire world.

Let's be reasonable here.. What does the Arab world produce, apart from oil? Not too much.. Besides Israel is selfhelped and exports a lot of high tech stuff themselves, can't say I heard Rhodesia was in this situation..

But I agree that the kind of concessions that the current government are making will turn Israel into a Rhodesia at some point unless the madness stops.

FOITim
12-23-2008, 10:00 AM
True...........to an extent.
PS. I am Zimbabwean and that is NOT what Rhodesia was. It was a much better plze then you make it out tobe - human rights was an issue but you grossly exaggerated it

^^^^^^^
It was countries like Britain that destroyed Rhodesia

And yes, many blacks fought for Rhodesia during the Chimurenga

exT70
01-06-2009, 02:33 AM
Israel is boycotted by the Arab world and some of their supporters. Rhodesia was boycotted by the entire world.

Let's be reasonable here.. What does the Arab world produce, apart from oil? Not too much.. Besides Israel is selfhelped and exports a lot of high tech stuff themselves, can't say I heard Rhodesia was in this situation..

But I agree that the kind of concessions that the current government are making will turn Israel into a Rhodesia at some point unless the madness stops.

Money, money, money.
Is the grease that makes the world go round.
As with all "isolated" countries, they last as long as the economy lasts. As long as Israel can afford it, it will remain. Whether it be with US support or somehow else.
Rhodesia ran out, and capitulated.
RSA ran out, and handed over the keys.
And the more comfortable you get, the more you are prepared to give up/compromise to remain "comfortable".

gilgoul
01-06-2009, 03:05 AM
And the more comfortable you get, the more you are prepared to give up/compromise to remain "comfortable".

So very true.
And that is why this article hits a truth.
While our enemies are living in hard macho society, we tend to turn soft, more interested by Big Brother and Survivor tv shows than by what's going on in the country.
The Private TV networks and media competing for audience and readers produce dumbed down clones of each other, and unfortunately there isn't a single quality conservative paper in the country.
All the while, the reasons of our presence here are not taught in our secular school system, while the pseudo "nakba" is, by those post hippy teachers.
The Israeli society suffers of many ills, none overwhelming, and none that by itself will deliver a fatal blow to the country, but there is a real need for a return to the basics here, because a society who doesn't respect itself and it's founding principles can't be respected by neither it's minorities nor it's enemies, especially if the two are the same.

Bulletproof
01-06-2009, 03:12 AM
What really killed the Rhodesia was it secession from the British Empire.

oldsoak
01-06-2009, 05:49 AM
UDI didnt help, but it was an attempt to preserve a white Rhodesia rather than let it become a majority rule state.
I dont think its compareable to Israel and the Palestinian situation. Israel was/is a recognised state in a way that Rhodesia never was. It experience considerable support that Rhodesia never had and it was able to establish foreign trade with comparitive ease. It also has the industry and demographics that has enabled it to sustain a defense posture that the Rhodesians couldnt.
If we had a Rhodesia where the white inhabitants outnumbered the blacks, a sustainable heavy industry, considerable economic help, political recognition and easy access to the sea for oil etc then I suspect history would be rather different.

Fiber
01-06-2009, 07:02 AM
Yes napalm the savages.http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

LineDoggie
01-06-2009, 07:03 AM
This would be the same Dave Grossack who once brought an Exorcist to washington to excise it of Demons?


Yeah, he's sane I'm listening to him..........:roll:

Schad
01-06-2009, 11:35 AM
My guess is that the writer and the OP never actually has set foot in either Rhodesia or Zim cause I've never heard so much kak in all my life.

jebelcat
01-07-2009, 03:23 AM
My guess is that the writer and the OP never actually has set foot in either Rhodesia or Zim cause I've never heard so much kak in all my life.


Or Africa for that matter...