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Rudolph
12-19-2008, 01:17 PM
Mugabe says no African country will topple him (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081219/ap_on_re_af/af_zimbabwe)
By ANGUS SHAW, Associated Press Writer

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HARARE, Zimbabwe – President Robert Mugabe said Friday that "Zimbabwe is mine" and vowed never to surrender, saying no African nation is brave enough to topple him.

Mugabe, who has led the country since its 1980 independence from Britain, has faced renewed criticism — most recently from the top U.S. envoy for Africa — amid a cholera outbreak that has killed more than 1,000 people since August.

"I will never, never sell my country. I will never, never, never surrender," Mugabe told members of his ZANU-PF party at its annual convention.

"Zimbabwe is mine, I am a Zimbabwean, Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans.

Zimbabwe never for the British. Britain for the British."

Jendayi Frazer, U.S. assistant secretary of state for African affairs, said Thursday that "there is a complete collapse right now" in Zimbabwe.

"We think that the person who has ruined the country ... that he needs to step down," Frazer said. "We're watching Zimbabwe become a failed state.
We need to act now, proactively, in Zimbabwe."

Mugabe on Friday questioned which African countries "would have the courage" to order a military intervention.

"What the Americans want just now, is the removal of President Mugabe.
But President Mugabe has been elected by his people and we have told them as we have told the Europeans that the only persons with the power to remove Robert Gabriel Mugabe are the people of Zimbabwe," he said.

Most neighboring countries including regional giant South Africa are opposed to military intervention in Zimbabwe, where 1,123 people have died from cholera and the United Nations says half the population faces imminent starvation.

Mugabe's critics blame his policies for the ruin of the once-productive nation. Mugabe blames Western sanctions for the nation's economic meltdown, though the European Union and U.S. sanctions are targeted only at Mugabe and dozens of his clique with frozen bank accounts and travel bans.

Frazer was in southern Africa consulting with regional leaders Thursday about what can be done to help Zimbabwe. A day earlier, South African President Kgalema Motlanthe stressed that he believed a proposed unity government was the solution, and that it must be formed quickly.

Foreign ministers for the five Nordic countries also called for the end of Mugabe's "misrule," saying in a statement Friday that Zimbabwe's authorities "alone bear the responsibility for the tragic situation" facing the country.

Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai beat Mugabe in March presidential elections at which his party also ended the 28-year domination of Parliament by Mugabe's party. But officials results said Tsvangirai did not win outright, and he withdrew from a runoff because of state-sponsored violence.

To break the impasse over the presidential votes, Mugabe and Tsvangirai agreed to form a unity government three months ago but have been deadlocked since over how to share Cabinet posts.

Tsvangirai said Friday that he will ask his party, the Movement for Democratic Change, to halt negotiations unless political detainees are released or charged by Jan. 1.

He told a news conference in neighboring Botswana that more than 42 members of his opposition party and civil society have been abducted in the past two months. They include three journalists and their whereabouts remain unknown.

"The MDC can no longer sit at the same negotiating table with a party that is abducting our members and other innocent civilians and refusing to produce any of them before a court of law," Tsvangirai said.

Also Friday, the central bank unveiled a new 10 billion Zimbabwe dollar bank note, the largest in a range of bills introduced since August when it slashed ten zeros from the old currency in a hopeless effort to keep up with stratospheric inflation.


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Associated Press Writer Sello Motseta in Gaborone, Botswana contributed to this report.

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Finally we agree, Bob. He speaks the truth, finally. And laughs at the world! Guess he's not that crazy after all...

Kaapeli
12-19-2008, 01:22 PM
"Zimbabwe is mine, I am a Zimbabwean, Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans.

Zimbabwe never for the British. Britain for the British."

He sounds like a retard.

LineDoggie
12-19-2008, 01:29 PM
He's right, none have the guts to remove him.

Laworkerbee
12-19-2008, 01:30 PM
"We're watching Zimbabwe become a failed state.

It was succeeding before?

Connaught Ranger
12-19-2008, 01:41 PM
Why bother he is doing such a good job himself!!!

ed316
12-19-2008, 02:18 PM
And he's right. In the end it's the lack of will by any country.

tbk107
12-19-2008, 03:09 PM
Someone needs to air this guys head out.

Dinges
12-19-2008, 03:16 PM
^ Nobody will. He has a hold on all the southern African leaders. They dance to his tune.

They owe him favours. Amoral debt collection.

Only way he will go down is with the country with him. He has been drunk with power for far too long.

Gawel1410
12-19-2008, 04:34 PM
Hmm, he mentions that no one will topple him, well, maybe the other countries just don't care about Zimbabwe, Mugabe just wants to be in the spotlight, just wants to look important. I bet that if lets say SA wanted to, the would be able to topple Mugabe in lets say less than a week.:)

Rudolph
12-19-2008, 05:02 PM
Hmm, he mentions that no one will topple him, well, maybe the other countries just don't care about Zimbabwe, Mugabe just wants to be in the spotlight, just wants to look important. I bet that if lets say SA wanted to, the would be able to topple Mugabe in lets say less than a week.:)

After milking the cows the Free State farmers can pop over the border and defeat the Zim army in time for supper.

Skukuza
12-20-2008, 07:20 AM
I reckon even Eugene and his Castle drinking, braai warriors could do the job Bru.

brett
12-20-2008, 07:41 AM
Sounds like a job for...
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ltrowley
12-20-2008, 07:57 AM
He's 84 years old. Maybe he's not long for this world, either way I don't see a happy ending to this problem. Intervention occuring or not.

exbootneck
12-20-2008, 07:59 AM
He sounds like a retard.

I am sure Mugabe has syphilis as this condition renders you mad in later life...he is clearly out of his tree.

pacifist
12-20-2008, 08:00 AM
He sounds like a retard.

He's old and senile.

brett
12-20-2008, 08:02 AM
There is a strong case to place Mugabe into the custody of the Court of Human Rights in the Hague, to answer charges
of corruption and criminal neglect. Looking beyond that, the challenge will be to ensure the safety of the Zimbabwean
population [those who are not already close to death through disease or malnutrition] by disarming his ZANU-PF thugs.
It will be an identical situation to that faced by the Peacekeeper Forces deployed to Rhodesia nearly thirty years ago.

Nightsky
12-20-2008, 08:17 AM
There is a strong case to place Mugabe into the custody of the Court of Human Rights in the Hague

The criminal court is a two-sided sword. People like Milosevic who stepped down from power and did not smash protests by brute force face life in prison. Not exactly what any dictator would want.

The court makes it difficult to strike a deal like "you step down and we grant you safe asylum in Timbuktu or whereever".

This, combined with the fact that some nations, notably the US, don't fully take part in this system (exceptions), adding that usually victors write laws and history, makes the UN court a thing I am not entirely comfy with.

LordKitchener
12-20-2008, 08:32 AM
I always wondered if Mbeki's appeasement of Mugabe was partly to do with his fear of Zimbabwe troops rolling over the border into SA or were they just ideologically alligned?

Dinges
12-20-2008, 08:59 AM
ideologically alligned?


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