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IraGlacialis
12-28-2008, 02:51 PM
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Obama bristles as the bubble closes in
Carol E. Lee

HONOLULU – The media glare, the constant security appendage and the sheer production that has become a morning jog or a hankering for an ice cream cone – it’s been closing in on Barack Obama for some time.
Now the president-elect appears increasingly conscious of the confines of his new position, bristling at the routine demands of press coverage and beginning to chafe at boundaries that are only going to get smaller.
Obama even took the unusual step Friday morning of leaving behind the pool of reporters assigned to follow him, taking his daughters to a nearby water park without them. It was a breach of longstanding protocol between presidents (or presidents-elect) and the media, that a gaggle of reporters representing television, print and wire services is with his motorcade at all times.
Then when reporters finally caught up with Obama at Koko Marina Paradise Deli and he acknowledged them for one of few times since arriving in Hawaii last Saturday, he sounded resigned.
After ordering a tuna melt on 12-grain bread, Obama approached reporters and placed his hand on the shoulder of pool reporter Philip Rucker of The Washington Post, who was scribbling away in his notebook.
“You don't really need to write all that down,” Obama said.
All presidents and would-be presidents struggle with “the bubble” – the security detail and the always-there reporters that impose barriers to any spontaneous interaction with the outside world.
But Obama seems to be struggling particularly hard, particularly early.
As rapid as Obama’s political rise has been, so too has his family’s introduction to the bubble.
Four years ago Obama was an Illinois state senator who was on his way to the U.S. Senate. Next month, he will become one of only a handful of modern presidents who has not endured a similar bubble as a governor or top U.S. official before taking office.
Already, Obama no longer gets out for an impromptu lunch or a haircut. The barber he’s gone to for 15 years now comes to him, and he mostly orders out. Soon Obama likely will be forced to give up the BlackBerry he often kept attached to his hip during the campaign.
“There's still some things we're not adjusted to," Obama said in a “60 Minutes” interview after the election. “You know, the small routines of life that keep you connected, I think some of those are being lost.”
Bill Clinton grew frustrated that he couldn’t go out any time he wanted, and once went Christmas shopping without the pool. After he became president, George W. Bush stopped sending e-mails to his daughters because he didn't want the personal notes to become public one day.
“It’s just hard to know that there’s somebody with you all the time,” said Steve Elmendorf, who was deputy campaign manager for John Kerry in 2004. “Being able to get up and go biking or go for a walk, or hold hands with your wife — everything you do is not just under the scrutiny of the press or the pool.”
For Obama, who received a Secret Service detail earlier than any presidential candidate since the practice began, the scrutiny is much more intense.
The glare on his family is shaping up to be unprecedented, both because Obama assumes the presidency amid a 24-hour, Web-dominated media age where many traditional boundaries don’t exist and because of what he represents. He’s the first African-American to be elected president. At 47, he’s a young guy – as presidents go. He also has a youthful, attractive family that is social and active.
During the first week in Hawaii, Obama has had to deal with paparazzi waiting in the distance, photographing him shirtless outside his beachfront vacation home and later while spreading his grandmother’s ashes at the Pacific coast.
And even though the pool photographers remained out of sight and without an image of these private moments, Obama seems to be tiring of the journalists who have followed him daily since the campaign.
“OK, guys, come on," Obama said last Sunday, looking toward photographers clicking away as he warmed up before a round of golf. “How many shots do you need?”
It’s been a progression. And Obama’s frustration shows in waves.
On Halloween, Obama grew testy with a Polish media crew as he took his daughter Sasha to a party at his campaign treasurer Marty Nesbitt’s Chicago home.
"All right guys. That's enough. You've got a shot. Leave us alone. Come on guys. Get back on the bus,” Obama said before breaking into a trot with Sasha still holding his hand.
The day before Thanksgiving, a sixth grader at a Chicago school asked Obama about his new life.
“You don't have a lot of privacy," Obama told some 200 children, adding that going to Walgreen's and riding a bicycle are now far more involved than before.
Those close to the Obamas have spoken to the media less and less since the election. Calls and e-mails to close friends and associates of the Obamas were not returned.
“My husband and I have been asked not to speak with the press about the Obamas,” one of them wrote in an e-mail. “They would prefer that we stay out of the papers for now.”
It seems the narrower the gap between transition and reality gets, the more private Obama has tried to become.
“You can see how he chafes at it,” Elmendorf said. “It’s hard for people who like to do outdoors things. It’s also hard for people with young kids. … You decide at 9 in the morning, I’m not going out anymore, then at 2 p.m. you decide, ‘Hey let’s get some ice cream.’”
“Normal people can do that. The president or president-elect can’t do that,” he said.
Friday was only the second time since the election that Obama has traveled without the press pool. Reporters also were left behind in Chicago once when they couldn’t gather fast enough after Obama decided to return home from his transition office.
Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt issued a statement Friday saying that because the president-elect had no further events scheduled as of 9:30 a.m., aides sent reporters back to their Waikiki Beach hotel 30 minutes away from his vacation home. But then Obama changed his mind.
“The president-elect decided to take the girls to a water park and we assembled the pool as quickly as possible,” the statement said.
Later, when paying attention to his press pool and ordering treats for his daughters and their friends at Kokonuts Shave Ice & Snacks, Obama went so far as to offer reporters some shave ice.
“Guys, here's your chance," Obama said. “No? I'm telling you, this is really good.”
“I don't think this is against policy,” he continued. “You want one, I can tell." Reporters declined the president-elect's offer. But, perhaps in a sign of defiance, Obama made it while standing in one of his hometown spots with his BlackBerry clipped to his hip.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081228/pl_politico/16882

SHAM
12-28-2008, 05:34 PM
So is he going to select a press officer from the press, so the press can speak to the press for the next four years?

Invisigoth
12-28-2008, 06:25 PM
He should just tell the press to go eat schmitt, get himself an iPhone and rock on.

Alternatively he can just have a few of them impaled on the fence outside the White House as a warning. He's the president for god's sake.

budgie
12-28-2008, 06:44 PM
This is one of those 'Obama takes a dump' category stories that were so prolific before the election. Most certainly not the droids I'm looking for...

Flounder
12-28-2008, 06:49 PM
****ty reporting as usual.

"A tuna melt on 12 grain bread" just doesn't give me enough information.

Did it have cheese? What kind of cheese? Was the 12 grain bread buttered? If so did they use margarine or butter? Was it sliced? If so was it diagonally or lengthwise? Was salt and pepper involved? What did he have to drink?

This is going to keep me up all night now.

**** you very much useless liberal media.

LEB101
12-28-2008, 08:07 PM
someone told me they are taking him to court becuase hes not an american citizen is this true

budgie
12-28-2008, 08:17 PM
No they're taking him to court because his middle name is Hussein...

Marshall_Nord
12-28-2008, 09:11 PM
He should just tell them the press to go eat schmitt, get himself an iPhone and rock on.

Alternatively he can just have a few of them impaled on the fence outside the White House as a warning. He's the president for god's sake.

Yes, he's the President - not a Caesar.

Euroamerican
12-28-2008, 10:04 PM
Ha ha... He's going to have to accept it whether he likes it or not. He's the rockstar/savior President. He's going to be in the biggest spotlight in the world for the next four years.

Anthony91
12-28-2008, 10:07 PM
I rather hear about the President-elect than one of those Hollywood bimbos and their recent drug/alcohol/*** addictions.

Walter Sobchak
12-28-2008, 10:26 PM
someone told me they are taking him to court because hes not an American citizen is this true

He won't produce his real birth certificate. I don't know why he doesn't take it out, pass it around and the question answered. The one on his website doesn't look authentic.

The court case, filed by one of Hitlery Clinton's aids, was thrown out by a Federal judge as "without merit".

Who really knows?

WarDancer
12-29-2008, 02:06 AM
someone told me they are taking him to court becuase hes not an american citizen is this true

That and the fact he's denying his Muslim heritage has caused great concern in the US. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when all this comes to light.

JKD
12-29-2008, 02:13 AM
He won't produce his real birth certificate. I don't know why he doesn't take it out, pass it around and the question answered. The one on his website doesn't look authentic.


Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate confirmed

The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed on Friday what Barack Obama has been saying all along: the presidential candidate was born in Honolulu.

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,” said Chiyome Fukino. “State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.”

Citing her statutory authority to oversee and maintain Hawaii’s vital records, Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

“No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii,” Fukino added.

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2008/10/27/daily60.html

WarDancer
12-29-2008, 02:46 AM
Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate confirmed

The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed on Friday what Barack Obama has been saying all along: the presidential candidate was born in Honolulu.

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,” said Chiyome Fukino. “State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.”

Citing her statutory authority to oversee and maintain Hawaii’s vital records, Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

“No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii,” Fukino added.

can you say "cover up". Barack Hussein Obama can put all this talk to rest if he simply displayed his birth certificate for inspection. His refusal to do so speaks volumes about the illigitimacy of his election and presidency.

JKD
12-29-2008, 03:32 AM
can you say "cover up". Barack Hussein Obama can put all this talk to rest if he simply displayed his birth certificate for inspection. His refusal to do so speaks volumes about the illigitimacy of his election and presidency.

He has.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Between that and the state of Hawaii saying that their copy is legit I'm not sure what else he can do. It won't please the conspiracy theorists no matter what. They're like 9/11 truthers in that no matter how much evidence you throw their way they stick to their stories of "cover ups"

egg taco
12-29-2008, 04:11 AM
this is what he signed up for. Don't whine about it now.

Macs.
12-29-2008, 05:25 AM
Hussein
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Fixed.

Lazarou
12-29-2008, 06:05 AM
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Invisigoth
12-29-2008, 07:27 AM
Yes, he's the President - not a Caesar.

Okok, no caesar, no impaling. He should just have them grabbed, put bags over their head, dragged onto a plane and kidnapped to a remote island location where they are tortured and driven insane over a short period of, let's say, half a decade.

Oh wait. :roll:

Euroamerican
12-29-2008, 12:38 PM
^-- He won't be able to do that to his enemies as he has already stated his intent to close the detention centers at Gitmo.

Snoshi
12-29-2008, 12:41 PM
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Fixed.

I think the colour should be green..

Mastermind
12-29-2008, 06:09 PM
Poor sad baby...he is in so much trouble..and so is this nation. Hope his admirers are watching as he sends the USA straight to hell in a hand basket.

He thinks its tough now...he just has to wait until he becomes the most hated man in the universe as his loon-a-tick ideas are pressed on the people.

Walter Sobchak
12-29-2008, 06:40 PM
Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate confirmed

The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed on Friday what Barack Obama has been saying all along: the presidential candidate was born in Honolulu.

“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,” said Chiyome Fukino. “State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.”

Citing her statutory authority to oversee and maintain Hawaii’s vital records, Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

“No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii,” Fukino added.People say that they've seen big foot and chupacabra, too.

Read what the story really says: It says that other people can't see a copy of it, only Fukimo and presumably Obama can.

If someone questioned me about my ancestry, I'd just get my certified copy and show them. It makes us wonder why HE hasn't done that. McCain, when the question of his being born in the Canal Zone came up, released a certified copy of his original to the Presidential Election Commission.

JKD
12-29-2008, 08:11 PM
People say that they've seen big foot and chupacabra, too.

Read what the story really says: It says that other people can't see a copy of it, only Fukimo and presumably Obama can.
When I needed to get a copy of my birth certificate from TX last summer I had to prove who I was because, thankfully, they won't whip it out for just anybody. I would imagine it's the same all over the country.


If someone questioned me about my ancestry, I'd just get my certified copy and show them. It makes us wonder why HE hasn't done that.
He has
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Hasn't stopped the conspiracy theorists though

IraGlacialis
12-29-2008, 09:46 PM
Hasn't stopped the conspiracy theorists though
Sometimes, it is just best to let conspiracy theorists be.
Whenever you have something high profile, there is guaranteed to be a conspiracy thought up about it, sometimes correct but usually baseless. And the thing about conspiracies are that no amount of argument or evidence can dislodge them; a counter argument may be given that the evidence was just part of the conspiracy all along.

IraGlacialis
12-29-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh and:






http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/73/husseinbt2.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2276/animatedflameyg1.gifHusseinhttp://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2276/animatedflameyg1.gif........
Fixed.........
Fixed.I think the colour should be green..
Fixed......

Walter Sobchak
12-30-2008, 04:19 AM
Well, if "Fact Check dot Org" says it is, then it IS.

Or, is it?

To contact "fact check" http://www.factcheck.org/contact/ go here, and you'll find out they are part of the Annenberg Foundation. That name sounds familiar... where have we heard that before? Oh, yeah! Bill Ayers and Barack Obama were on the board of one of the Annenberg Foundation entities.

Naaaaah... there's nothing going on here, is it? Ever wonder why some other organization, without ties to Obama hasn't "verified" it? Like maybe the Presidential Election Commission? It's their job, you know...

That very same birth certificate that "fact check" and others have seen and verified as authentic is apparently akin to some holy relic, as only certain people can see it and take (alleged) close-up photos of it.

Isn't it strange that a smart man like Obama would not even whip out his birth certificate when a lawsuit was filed in Federal court? Instead of offering the obvious, incontrovertible proof, he chose to have his attorney file a motion to dismiss the suit, instead. Strange, indeed...

Holycrusader
12-30-2008, 04:43 AM
can you say "cover up". Barack [B]Hussein Obama can put all this talk to rest if he simply displayed his birth certificate for inspection. His refusal to do so speaks volumes about the illigitimacy of his election and presidency.

Be afraid... be very afraid...
That Hussein will have more nukes at his disposal than rest of the world...


LOL

JKD
12-30-2008, 11:59 AM
Sometimes, it is just best to let conspiracy theorists be.
Whenever you have something high profile, there is guaranteed to be a conspiracy thought up about it, sometimes correct but usually baseless. And the thing about conspiracies are that no amount of argument or evidence can dislodge them; a counter argument may be given that the evidence was just part of the conspiracy all along.

I know. It's like talking to a brick wall. But it's fun.

JKD
12-30-2008, 12:19 PM
Well, if "Fact Check dot Org" says it is, then it IS.

Or, is it?
dun, dun, DUN


To contact "fact check" http://www.factcheck.org/contact/ go here, and you'll find out they are part of the Annenberg Foundation. That name sounds familiar... where have we heard that before? Oh, yeah! Bill Ayers and Barack Obama were on the board of one of the Annenberg Foundation entities.

Naaaaah... there's nothing going on here, is it? Ever wonder why some other organization, without ties to Obama hasn't "verified" it? Like maybe the Presidential Election Commission? It's their job, you know...
You don't think the president elect of the United States, a senator who's served on the foreign relations committee, and a man who I assume has a passport, has ever been subject of a background check?


That very same birth certificate that "fact check" and others have seen and verified as authentic is apparently akin to some holy relic, as only certain people can see it and take (alleged) close-up photos of it.

Isn't it strange that a smart man like Obama would not even whip out his birth certificate when a lawsuit was filed in Federal court? Instead of offering the obvious, incontrovertible proof, he chose to have his attorney file a motion to dismiss the suit, instead. Strange, indeed...
Why go to trail when you don't have to? Just to please world net daily, Corsi, and a group of conspiracy nutters?

Seriously bring some evidence that Obama is not a citizen. There's nothing. It's nothing but conspiracies floating around on right wing circle-jerk websites.

We've got a HI birth certificate that that state says is legit. A copy held by Obama that has been photographed.

Anything solid to back up the conspiracies? There an Obama birth certificate from another nation? Anything?

budgie
12-30-2008, 08:24 PM
You don't think the president elect of the United States, a senator who's served on the foreign relations committee, and a man who I assume has a passport, has ever been subject of a background check?

Why go to trail when you don't have to? Just to please world net daily, Corsi, and a group of conspiracy nutters?

Seriously bring some evidence that Obama is not a citizen. There's nothing. It's nothing but conspiracies floating around on right wing circle-jerk websites.

We've got a HI birth certificate that that state says is legit. A copy held by Obama that has been photographed.

Anything solid to back up the conspiracies? There an Obama birth certificate from another nation? Anything?

The reason the Right Wingers just won't let go is that they don't want to. They want desperately tio believe that Obama is some sort of Jihadist plant in high office. He could turn up at their door personally, hand in hand with their beloved Neocon Messiah Bush and hand them his original birth certificate and they'd still call it a fake.

It is akin to a three-year old covering her ears, stamping her feet and screaming because she doesn't want to listen to the grown-ups.



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