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Afro-European
01-04-2009, 03:57 PM
As the world prepares to bid a less-than-fond farewell to President Bush, the founder of the political dynasty is hinting that Washington may not have seen the last of his family.
George Bush Snr, the former president and father of the current White House occupant, today urged his second son to seek election to the Senate next year in Florida. “I’d like to see him run,” he said. “I’d like to see him be president some day.”
Jeb Bush, the former governor of Florida, has long been regarded as his father’s favourite. “He’s a guy who really has a feel for people, the issues in Florida and nationally and his political days ought not to be over,” said the ex-president.
“I think he’s as qualified and able as anyone I know.”
Mr Bush, however, conceded, that “now is probably not the time” to launch another White House run, because people may have concluded “there have been enough Bushes in there”.
Mr Bush and his son George W are the second father and son in US history to serve as presidents. John Adams was the second and his son, John Quincy Adams, the sixth. No father has ever been followed by two sons into the White House.
George W. Bush will leave office on January 20 with approval ratings hovering just below 30 per cent in many polls, some of the lowest of any president in history.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5445824.ece

The Bush Dynasty:Another Bush in the white house in 20xx?

BAF
01-04-2009, 04:01 PM
i think that will depent on how president Obama wil handle things

Albatross
01-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Never happen, dubya did to much damage. If he runs it would be an easy victory for dems.

Red River
01-04-2009, 04:12 PM
I think is just a lot of talk, every dad wants to see his son succeed. The Dems would really have to screw things up for another Bush to get elected. I think the 2012 election is pretty much up in the air though. If Obama doesn't begin to turn this country around by his second or third year in office, or if things get worse, he won't get reelected. Hes got a handful to juggle between the economy, defense, foreign, and domestic policy. Hes going to need to be careful so that hes not the second Jimmy Carter.

Breakfast in Vegas
01-04-2009, 04:18 PM
I don't know enough about him to say whether he'd be good or not, but the Bush legacy is certainly tarnished at this point. Then again, who else do the Republicans have?

offspring
01-04-2009, 04:20 PM
I don't know enough about him to say whether he'd be good or not, but the Bush legacy is certainly tarnished at this point. Then again, who else do the Republicans have?


Bob Dole ftw

Afro-European
01-04-2009, 04:22 PM
It seems like the Bush-Clinton cyclus isn't gonna end anytime soon. Hopefully Obama will serve two terms(if he doesn't screw things).

Red River
01-04-2009, 04:25 PM
I don't know enough about him to say whether he'd be good or not, but the Bush legacy is certainly tarnished at this point. Then again, who else do the Republicans have?


Well if all it takes is is to be Senator for 4 years, we have lots of qualified applicants...

annihilation
01-04-2009, 04:31 PM
If Bush wanted his younger brother to be president then he should have never ran to be president. He did enough damage to tarnish the Bush name for the next 20 years. Plus I would like to move away from the Bush, Clintons and Kennedy's from running for the office.

philbob
01-04-2009, 04:32 PM
keep in mind Obama didnt want to be judged by the company he kept so true to word we (the americans who voted for obama) should give Jeb the bennifit of the doubt

Afro-European
01-04-2009, 04:34 PM
keep in mind Obama didnt want to be judged by the company he kept so true to word we (the americans who voted for obama) should give Jeb the bennifit of the doubt
Very true but it's not like only Bushes and Clintons are able to run the US.
Bobby Jindal is having alot of buzz these days...

philbob
01-04-2009, 04:34 PM
If Bush wanted his younger brother to be president then he should have never ran to be president. He did enough damage to tarnish the Bush name for the next 20 years. Plus I would like to move away from the Bush, Clintons and Kennedy's from running for the office.

second that

el borracho
01-04-2009, 04:37 PM
keep in mind Obama didnt want to be judged by the company he kept so true to word we (the americans who voted for obama) should give Jeb the bennifit of the doubt

The hell with that. Dubya's problem was not so much that he was incompetent, but that he surrounded himself with yes-men and recycled several members of his father's cabinet for key positions. These individuals were the ones calling the shots more so that George W himself, so why would a cabinet under Jeb Bush be any different? If George Sr. wants to regain the family legacy his only chance is to prime the husbands of George W.'s daughters for a White House role.

Mackie
01-04-2009, 04:37 PM
http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/leftcoastleaner/cheney_short_of_breath.jpg
Putsch! Jan 20th

LineDoggie
01-04-2009, 05:04 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5445824.ece

The Bush Dynasty:Another Bush in the white house in 20xx? Why Not? some were all fired up for a Clinton one this year. And were talking of drafting Chelsea for 2016......

Or maybe we can appoint Caroline Kennedy next, after all Kennedy's are genetically entitled to power... just dont let Ted Drive her

Kilgor
01-04-2009, 05:14 PM
It seems like the Bush-Clinton cyclus isn't gonna end anytime soon. Hopefully Obama will serve two terms(if he doesn't screw things).

Ain't going to happen mate.

BlackFlag
01-04-2009, 05:20 PM
I hate that the Presidency is being turned into an Oligarchy. Obama is a new face, but alot of his Cabinet are from the Clinton Admin. With a few (mainly Hillary) with future political aspirations. As for Jeb? GWB made that impossible.

Roy Batty
01-04-2009, 05:22 PM
Another Bush???....For the love of God I hope not......

Afro-European
01-04-2009, 05:32 PM
Ain't going to happen mate.
If he fixes things that Bush broke,why not?

Kilgor
01-04-2009, 05:33 PM
If he fixes things that Bush broke,why not?

Would Nixon's brother run for president ?

The name is trashed, he wouldnt even make it through the primaries.

Red River
01-04-2009, 05:36 PM
Would Nixon's brother run for president ?

The name is trashed, he wouldnt even make it through the primaries.

Oh come on Tricky **** wasn't that bad of a guy....

Kilgor
01-04-2009, 05:38 PM
nope, but its all about public perception.

Afro-European
01-04-2009, 05:39 PM
Would Nixon's brother run for president ?

The name is trashed, he wouldnt even make it through the primaries.
Well Jeb isn't George.Plus their clan got the money and connections.
But i agree with most posters here that 2 Bush are more than enough.

Roy Batty
01-04-2009, 05:39 PM
Oh come on Tricky **** wasn't that bad of a guy....

He might be a step up.....lol

WarriorMonk
01-04-2009, 06:07 PM
Dubya has permanently tarred his family's name and nothing short of WMDs found in Iraq or his crony CEO friends in big oil or the finance sector whatnot going to jail or giving up their money to help the economy or the PATRIOT act seeming to actually work...

is going to redeem him.

for the time being, the chance of him being redeemed is pretty much the same as the chance of me "having fun" with Denise Milani...zero.

Winger
01-04-2009, 06:49 PM
I thought all the guys named Jeb died in the Civil War?

Flagg
01-04-2009, 07:41 PM
Why Not? some were all fired up for a Clinton one this year. And were talking of drafting Chelsea for 2016......

Or maybe we can appoint Caroline Kennedy next, after all Kennedy's are genetically entitled to power... just dont let Ted Drive her

Yeah......I"m no fan of nepotistic brand name "democratic" monarchy.

The US is not North Korea, Egypt, Iraq, or Libya.

I'd like to start by seeing a change from Governor appointed Senatorial vacancies to run-off elections.

Incumbants Senators would likely possess a strong likelihood of re-election.

Surely there are FAR better qualified people to appoint in New York than Caroline Schlossberg, oops, Caroline Nike....errrr Kennedy

budgie
01-04-2009, 08:09 PM
Why Not?

Simple reason why not: voters are fed up with the Bush family.

LineDoggie
01-04-2009, 08:52 PM
Simple reason why not: voters are fed up with the Bush family.
Now, in 4 years who the hell knows.......

**** we almost elected a Clinton fer christsakes, Cruella herself at that.

INAT
01-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Simple reason why not: voters are fed up with the Bush family.


Understatement.By far.

SBL
01-04-2009, 09:05 PM
Simple reason why not: voters are fed up with the Bush family.

I really don't think Bush 41 or Jeb factor into people's assessment of the current state of affairs.

INAT
01-04-2009, 09:08 PM
I really don't think Bush 41 or Jeb factor into people's assessment of the current state of affairs.


Really? <---Question


I mean th Bush admin is filled with his father's people.They have to factor in with Jeb because of Florida and the dubious victory also.

SBL
01-04-2009, 09:11 PM
Yeah, I really do think so. That's not going to register with most people.

lag
01-04-2009, 09:25 PM
yeah, that's just what the world needs, another bush in oval office *sigh*

budgie
01-04-2009, 09:29 PM
I really don't think Bush 41 or Jeb factor into people's assessment of the current state of affairs.


Why not? The name helped W win the presidency in the first place, so it can go both ways.

SBL
01-04-2009, 09:34 PM
Why not? The name helped W win the presidency in the first place, so it can go both ways.Of course it can, but that's not what you said.
You said people were fed up with the Bush family, I took that to mean you were suggesting that the elder Bush sticks out negatively in people's minds.

budgie
01-04-2009, 09:39 PM
Of course it can, but that's not what you said.
You said people were fed up with the Bush family, I took that to mean you were suggesting that the elder Bush sticks out negatively in people's minds.


I meant the name rather than any rational assessment of say, Bush Snr's administration. people are unlikely to vote for teh Bush name in coming years. One thing that helped W win was that his father was fondly remembered, despite being a one-termer. There won't be enough fond memories of the son to help his brother through, at least not in the short term.

LineDoggie
01-04-2009, 10:19 PM
So your saying the electorate is Irrational?

BearInBunnySuit
01-05-2009, 12:49 AM
Given that Jeb was the favored son and the one that was technically suppose to carry on his father's mantle until Bush Jr. usurped him, Bush Sr.'s sentiment is understandable. I don't necessarily see myself supporting another Bush in the WH but if it happens, I wouldn't be violently opposed either.

vryhpyammoadded
01-05-2009, 08:32 AM
I’d love to see Jeb in office just for the few years of comedic relief it would bring as the leftist elite conducts its minions into yet another melodramatic tizzy of wailing, pulling out hair and gnashing of teeth over every microscopic perceived slight so blown out of proportion. Very few things compare to the entertainment value of these yum, yum’s under duress.
Well, excepting maybe the yum, yum’s on the other end of the spectrum about to blow an aneurism over Obama.

snafu_72
01-05-2009, 08:52 AM
Except I'd like to see him carrying boxes for his brother out to the moving van. This country cannot abide another Bush progeny in the WH. Wubya did everything he could but it wasn't enough. Lets not try for round three in the Bush family tree. Please...

:backhand::cantbeli::bash:

budgie
01-05-2009, 10:23 AM
So your saying the electorate is Irrational?

I wouldn't dare call you irrational, Linedoggie.

CPLHUNTER
01-05-2009, 11:45 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing him run. I liked him as a governor here in FLA and I think he did a great job in that role by expanding education funding, healthcare and cutting taxes.

Createdeemcee
01-05-2009, 02:19 PM
Of course it can, but that's not what you said.
You said people were fed up with the Bush family, I took that to mean you were suggesting that the elder Bush sticks out negatively in people's minds.


We had enough bushes, SBL you know he would never get my vote. With a name like bush, he will be blamed for everything even my toilet not flushing. PS I did like bush 41.

Magnus18
01-05-2009, 02:58 PM
oh ye next bush ..
one more 911 and iraq war
but now against china or russia plz

Createdeemcee
01-05-2009, 03:53 PM
oh ye next bush ..
one more 911 and iraq war
but now against china or russia plz


Yup Big bro messed that up. !%^$ed it up for every bush.

Jobu
01-05-2009, 04:00 PM
Bush 41 had very low approval ratings late in his presidency too. That didn't stop people from voting for Bush 43.

Alot can change in a few years. The voting public are by and large fickle morons who will vote based on emotion and television commercials rather than any real desire for certain policies to be enacted. Give them a snappy slogan and give the morons in the media a nice story to tell and they will run with it. They don't give a crap about the truth. They don't care about who is qualified and who is not. It's all about the narrative.

Will Jeb in 2012 make a good story? It might. We'll have to wait and see how the authors fill the pages.

Keep in mind:

We hated Bush 41 in 1992. We loved him enough in 2000 to elect his son.
We hate Bush 43 now. Who knows how we'll feel in 2012 or 2016?

Gfunk
01-05-2009, 04:04 PM
I just threw up in mouth

and isn't Jeb considered the dumb one? what does that say about George W?

Createdeemcee
01-05-2009, 04:20 PM
We hated Bush 41 in 1992.


His resume was way less harsh. This one can add, katrina, bs war, economy, and excessive jobloss. Eventhough his dad left a similar sour taste in the mouths of americans. He was way better at what he did than JR. This ones F-ups are irreversable.

Lusitania
01-06-2009, 04:20 AM
I don't think we are truly understanding, George W. Bush's presidency makes it an impossibility for another Bush to even be considered for presidential election within the United States for many years. 2012 is an extreme impossibility; simply put, the American people will not forgive the Bush name for many years to come. The performance of Bush 43 is irrelevant; however, the perception of his performance is overwhelmingly negative. The support for Bush 41 and Bush 43 are incomparable; let us not forget that it is believed that without the running of Ross Perot within the 1992 election, Bush 41 would have received the popular vote. Inversely, within this last election, it would have been an extreme impossibility if Bush 43 was running, and won anything close to the popular vote. In scope, Bush 43's failure to deliver to most Americans within his second term, in my assessment, ensures Jeb will not be winning the presidency, let alone running, within these next eight years. Luckily for the Bush name however, Americans are quick to forgive, and many a time, with the voting of newer generations, easy to forget.

ozumn
01-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Mabye he will run for it when "they" need a new war.

Pandy
01-06-2009, 01:47 PM
Lets just change the law up and let Schwarzenegger run...

Jobu
01-06-2009, 02:21 PM
His resume was way less harsh. This one can add, katrina, bs war, economy, and excessive jobloss. Eventhough his dad left a similar sour taste in the mouths of americans. He was way better at what he did than JR. This ones F-ups are irreversable.

Nonsense. We're talking about politics where nothing is irreversable. Bush 41 had approval ratings in the 20's shortly before he left office. People blamed him for the recession, they blamed him for hurricane Andrew, they blamed him for everything just as people blame 43 now.

A few years later, after the sleaze of the Clintons, and the country wanted another Bush in office. All was forgiven.

Who knows what will happen over the next 4-8 years? Events my dear boy, events.

budgie
01-06-2009, 04:06 PM
For once I find myself agreeing. When put in the context of events who knows? Obama might fare poorly. There could be a crisis he can't handle. He is certainly starting on the back foot with two wars and an economic crisis to contend with - a tall order for any incoming administration. The public are fickle. He might even get caught having an affair. There are known unknowns....

bababooey
01-07-2009, 06:17 AM
Unless the US suffers from a collective amnesia, I don't think anyone with the last name Bush would be elected for anything, short of Dog poop collector.

Magnus18
01-07-2009, 08:06 AM
hmm a new bush in 2012?
k nice
the maya calandar ends 21.12.2012 , nice timing.
doomsday + a new bush xD
just kidding ;)

Limeyfellow
01-07-2009, 12:19 PM
If George Bush wants to see Jeb Bush in the White House, he should buy a ticket for the tour like everyone else.

Bia
01-07-2009, 12:27 PM
Lets see Obama will get 8, then Hillary will get 8, then Palin will get 8.... so yeah.... in 24 years Jeb can consider it.

Hilbert
01-07-2009, 04:12 PM
The two things I don't want to see as president:
-More of the Clinton Family
-More of the Bush Family

budgie
01-07-2009, 10:00 PM
Hear Hear.

eskachig
01-07-2009, 10:54 PM
Now, in 4 years who the hell knows.......

**** we almost elected a Clinton fer christsakes, Cruella herself at that.I don't like Hilary, but Bill left the office with a 65% approval rating - there's no comparison here.