Req: Identify AR Variant

[lance201]

Hello together,

can someone identrify this AR-something?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2153/frgxu0.jpg

thx Lance

[gaijinsamurai]

Anymore pics? Especially of the receiver? From what I see, it looks like an airsoft gun, or something. No forward assist, and the ejection port looks fake.

[lance201]

hello,

sorry I have only this small Pic. But it must be a real fire arm, no ASG or something.

Lance

[asch]

Anymore pics? Especially of the receiver? From what I see, it looks like an airsoft gun, or something. No forward assist, and the ejection port looks fake.
man, you sucks at airsoft p-) all them airsoft guns hav a FA imitations and highly realistic ejection ports.

for some reason i'm thinkin of Gyrojet variant by looks of that pic. )

[lance201]

for some reason i'm thinkin of Gyrojet variant by looks of that pic. )

But a gyrojet don't need an ejectionport at all... and there is an ejection port, could it be a SR-74 or something like this?

Lance

[stevej]

a toy? It does not look like an AR-15, more like it was patterned after the AR-15.

[lance201]

defintely no toy... as I say, it must be a real fire arm.

[stevej]

why are you so sure it is a real firearm? That photo is so small it would be hard to say either way.

[Frens]

if it's real that AR could use a homemade upper and lower receivers

[lance201]

hm, because I don't think that the guy who gave me that photo wanted to do a joke... I still believe it is a real firma arm and a special converted AR-Soemthing but I can't proove it.
Maybe someone her recognize the "specialities".
The guy told me that there are 7 things that differ this gun from a normal AR.

And there must be an official manufacturer, it is nothing homemade...

Lance

[gaijinsamurai]

lance, why don't you ask the guy who gave you the pic, since he obviously knows, and you seem to trust him?

Then, you can tell the rest of us.

[zonk]

so you have nothing to go on but word of mouth?
IMHO I would have to agree with most everyone that it looks like a fake, mainly for the reason it doesn't have a brass deflector which was one of the problems with the first m16's because the brass would fly backwards and nail the shooter in the face. no forward assist would be a problem because if a round did not fully chamber then what, slamming the butt on the ground is not an option.

I could be wrong but till proof is given, I would believe it to be a airsoft rifle

[James]

It's not any kind of AR. It's something else that's got an AR butt stock and carry handle on it.

[Mike Keenan]

I think it might be an AR lookalike, something like what Squires Bingham made or a conversion kit for something like a Ruger 10/22

[lance201]

lance, why don't you ask the guy who gave you the pic, since he obviously knows, and you seem to trust him?

Then, you can tell the rest of us.

because I told him, that in the net, you can research everything. So here is the task :-). If I don't get the answer out of the net, he will get the proof that I am wrong with it.
When its no AR-Type what is it then?

BTW he told me that the picture is taken from the manufactures website... but I can't find anything.

Lance

[Frens]

post the pic over ar15.com and m4carbine.net
someone will know for sure

[Albatross]

Thats a huge upper receiver, is it a shotgun?

[lance201]

Thats a huge upper receiver, is it a shotgun?

I really don't know. I will post the pic in the websites Frens told me. Maybe they know something about this "thing" there.

Lance

[stevej]

RobArms XCR?

[Anthony91]

Seems like one of those "hollywood" modifications for sci-fi movies, where they just add on a couple pieces of plastic to cover up the real weapon.

[Hollis]

A AR 180 B gone bad, More pictures is very much needed.

[Bro Jangles]

Seems like one of those "hollywood" modifications for sci-fi movies, where they just add on a couple pieces of plastic to cover up the real weapon.
X2 , looks llike that crap sci fi channel uses in their crappy B movies. The ejection port looks like something off a shotgun though.

[SpartanWarrior198]

As Arnie would say, that's "one ugly mother******".

[DizBukHaPeter]

It abstractly resembles the armalite ar180. Reminds me of Vulcan arms v18-200 rifle or the sar 80 and sr 88, but its not exact.

Im betting that its some sort of ar180 and if it is, its a sharp looking rifle, an improvement over the cheap looking ar180.

[lance201]

last night he gave me a hint, he said: the weapon is not from the country it look alike.
So I think it is no AR-Variant, it must be something diffrent with only "AR-looks". And it is nothing for Hollywood or Moviemaking.

Lance

[Frens]

it reminds me those Nordic AR 22...

[DeltaWhisky58]

Lance 201 - For crying out loud, if your friend knows what it is, find out from him and stop wasting bandwidth here, it's not exactly the find of the century is it?

[lance201]

Lance 201 - For crying out loud, if your friend knows what it is, find out from him and stop wasting bandwidth here, it's not exactly the find of the century is it?

What exactly is your problem? I told him, that the net will give me the answer, so I will try every forum I know to find out what weapon this is.

And what I see it looks loke that it is the "find of the century" because nobody can identify this up to now.

Lance

[DeltaWhisky58]

I don't have a problem, I'm not the one showing himself up by asking stupid questions. It looks to be like your so-called "friend" is taking you for a ride and you are showing just how gullible you are by keeping it going.

Never mind, I've got better things to do even if you haven't.

[Hawaii_Light]

Its a Chinese rifle in use with their forces, don't know its name but here is some proof from today scroll down till you see the Chinese maneuvers.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=149488&page=2

[lance201]

hm... the only new chinese rifle that I know about is the QBZ-03 and that look very diffrent from the one on my pic. But you are right, the handguard on these chinese ARs on the photo look a bit like the one on my pic.

Lance

[Bro Jangles]

Its a Chinese rifle in use with their forces, don't know its name but here is some proof from today scroll down till you see the Chinese maneuvers.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=149488&page=2
those pics are from the ROC, not the PRC.

as for the mystery rifle, it has got to be a PKM.

[DizBukHaPeter]

I'm pretty sure its ar180 based. Maybe the mystery weapon is related to the sar 80 or sr 88 rifles.

[lance201]

PKM??? I thought this is a russian Machine Gun?

Lance

[asch]

PKM??? I thought this is a russian Machine Gun?

Lance
PKM is everything.











i'm not kiddin'

[lance201]

as for the mystery rifle, it has got to be a PKM.

Do you have any link? Because i only find Machine Guns under this...

Lance

[Uncle Sam]

I think this page has pretty much every single gun known to man....Good luck

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_firearms

[James]

Lance 201 - For crying out loud, if your friend knows what it is, find out from him and stop wasting bandwidth here, it's not exactly the find of the century is it?

Well said.

[Hawaii_Light]

those pics are from the ROC, not the PRC.

as for the mystery rifle, it has got to be a PKM.

haha i guess it all comes down to who you think i recognize as the legitimate Chinese government. but besides that its still the weapon in question, one in the same.

[Bro Jangles]

haha i guess it all comes down to who you think i recognize as the legitimate Chinese government. but besides that its still the weapon in question, one in the same.
Yeah. I mostly said that for the other guy who was thinkin of QBZ rifles, but the t 65 T86 ant T95 are pretty much identical to the m16 in the reciever area (same with the norinco AR) so the thing is not ar15 based.


Plus I don't think taiwan uses the PKM.

[Hawaii_Light]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T86_assault_rifle heres the damn ugly excuse of a rifle.

[Hawaii_Light]

Yeah. I mostly said that for the other guy who was thinkin of QBZ rifles, but the t 65 T86 ant T95 are pretty much identical to the m16 in the reciever area (same with the norinco AR) so the thing is not ar15 based.


Plus I don't think taiwan uses the PKM.

im pretty sure they do, i saw a couple down there about a year or so. it seems only the police use the pkm though do to the low weight and they have been proven to be safer then glock's when it comes to A/D

[DeltaWhisky58]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T86_assault_rifle heres the damn ugly excuse of a rifle.

Thank the lord, now perhaps Lance201 can go back to jerking off over gun mags and stop wasting bandwidth.

[Bro Jangles]

Thank the lord, now perhaps Lance201 can go back to jerking off over gun mags and stop wasting bandwidth.
So we shouldn't tell him that's not the same rifle?

[Hawaii_Light]

So we shouldn't tell him that's not the same rifle?

shhhhh its close enough

[Lazy Lob]

Thank the lord, now perhaps Lance201 can go back to jerking off over gun mags and stop wasting bandwidth.

rofl I miss this. Good one DW.

[DeltaWhisky58]

So we shouldn't tell him that's not the same rifle?

I don't really care, do you?

[lance201]

I think I really know now why I removed these two scottish IT-guys from the office....

Lance

[RSone]

You might want to watch yor step, mate.....

[lance201]

why should I?

Lance

[DeltaWhisky58]

Maybe one of them was Lance's supposed friend who set him off on this wild goose chase in the first place. Clearly he hasn't learnt from it.

:fork:

[lance201]

...friends under the employees? Where on earth do you live?

Lance

BTT: I have search the net the whole night now, still haven't find this "mystic" gun... I am only a small step from believing that the scotsman is right and this is something to kid me... we will see

[RSone]

why should I?

Lance

You're pissing of certain people, by the looks of it....

[lance201]

You're pissing of certain people, by the looks of it....

LOL I do this every day, because it is the main part of my job.
But I have understand the message. Nothing similar from me the next time.

Lance

[Maine Finn]

LOL I do this every day, because it is the main part of my job.
But I have understand the message. Nothing similar from me the next time.

Lance

Lurk moar.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Lance, the only thing you have proven with this utterly pointless thread is how stupid and gullible you clearly are. Follow the lady's advice and lurk more, you might just learn something.

Oh, and BTW - please keep your racist comments to yourself.

[RSone]

LOL I do this every day, because it is the main part of my job.
But I have understand the message. Nothing similar from me the next time.

Lance

Not a Mod, buddy. DW is, however......:) Just figured i'd give you a timely warning not to step on the wrong toes on this site.

[lance201]

DW58 What is wrong with you? Do some more publications about walts and stop insulting me ok?

Lance

[DeltaWhisky58]

Not a Mod, buddy. DW is, however......:) Just figured i'd give you a timely warning not to step on the wrong toes on this site.

Sorry, but you're a year out of date, I ceased to be a mod in January 08.

I'm just trying to get this noob to stop making stupid posts and wasting bandwidth.

@ Lance - I haven't insulted anyone unlike you with your insinuations about the entire Scots race. I don't need to insult you, you made a fool of yourself without any help from others.

[Hollis]

I think I really know now why I removed these two scottish IT-guys from the office....

Lance


Take everyone's advice, Don't post, read more/lurk. In other words, Learn not to let your elephant ass to over ride your hummingbird brain.

[DeltaWhisky58]

^^ And he is a mod ^^

[lance201]

so scottish is a RACE???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race just for information.

Lance, the man with the limited lifetime in this forum I think :|

[California Joe]

When your suspension is up I'll probably ban you anyway you barely literate ****. I'd do it now but I'm too lazy to log onto the admin screen.