View Full Version : italian attack helicopter A129 Mangusta
easyand
06-20-2004, 07:15 AM
This is the best helicopter in our Army
http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTypen/Fotos/agusta/A129CFl.JPG
http://www.aeronautics.ru/agusta/a129_mangusta/a129-004.jpg
http://www.aeroshow.net/Aviation/Helicopteres/A129mangusta/A129-12.jpg
http://www.mi-24.com/Fotografie/vrtulniky/A-129/pr_kok2.jpg
gunner position
http://www.mi-24.com/Fotografie/vrtulniky/A-129/zadni_kokpit.jpg
pilot position
http://www.mi-24.com/Fotografie/vrtulniky/A-129/A129-01nova.jpg
MARINO
06-20-2004, 09:38 AM
GP woot
MAGNUM
06-20-2004, 09:43 AM
The MANGUSTA is a good machine, and the first combat helicopter entered in service in Europe.
The A129 was succesfully employed in Somalia, Albania, Macedonia and Kosovo where it proved highly reliable and extremely flexible.
It will be send in Irak to provide our forces a gunship platform.
kenshiroIT
06-20-2004, 12:52 PM
in this moment the helicopters are under upgrade, and they wont be ready before agust.
Maybe at september they will be sent to iraq.
If the Apache, and the Hind had a baby, that is what it would look like.
Very nice...
anyone have info how is it compare to the apache?
kenshiroIT
06-20-2004, 01:06 PM
well I cant find the infos right now, but if Im not mistaken originally the A129 mangusta (mangoose) was a recoinnance flying tank hunter.
Designet to hunt and destroy the red armys armor.
Later its been upgradet with a more powerfull engine, more tecnology and more weapons.
So it can be used in anti personel role to!
But no, it's not even comparable far away with a apache.
Wilco
06-20-2004, 01:09 PM
If the Apache, and the Hind had a baby, that is what it would look like.
Exactly what I thought, looks like an Apache mixed with mostly Hind, and a pinch of Cobra.
well I cant find the infos right now, but if Im not mistaken originally the A129 mangusta (mangoose) was a recoinnance flying tank hunter.
Designet to hunt and destroy the red armys armor.
Later its been upgradet with a more powerfull engine, more tecnology and more weapons.
So it can be used in anti personel role to!
But no, it's not even comparable far away with a apache.
Oh i see...so it something like the cobra...?
Or we just can't compare the 2..cuz we don't have the info.
LordHalbert
06-20-2004, 01:12 PM
How is it different than an Apache?
It seems the Mangusta and the Apache are both similar designs attempting to fill the same roles - CAS and interdiction.
The Apache's record in interdiction was proven in Iraq - it's very vunerable !!!
kenshiroIT
06-20-2004, 01:19 PM
here is a link http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/a129.htm
MANGUSTA A129
The A129 Mangusta [Mongoose], armed with anti-tank and area-suppression weapons systems, is intended primarily as an attack helicopter to be used against armored targets. The aircraft can operate during day, night, and all-weather conditions. The A129 Mangusta claims to be a proven 'hot climate' operator, as demonstrated during its peacekeeping operations. The A129 was succesfully employed in Somalia where it proved highly reliable and extremely flexible. The A129 MANGUSTA is manufactured in Italy by the Agusta aircraft company. Agusta developed the A129 Mangusta anti-tank helicopter, the first attack helicopter to be designed and produced wholly in Europe, which demonstrated Agusta's capacity to satisfy the most complex technical requirements. Italy is the only country with this helicopter in its inventory, with the Italian Army.
An escort/scout version of the Mangusta is under development for deployment with airmobile units. The ship would also be armed for air-to-air combat. The A129 International, developed from A129 Mangusta, responds to the requirements of today's armed forces for a multi-role combat helicopter that combines high performance and survivability with low support costs. The new 15-passenger AB139 utility helicopter is designed around the transmission of the A129 Mangusta attack helicopter.
The four-blade main rotor is mounted on the top center of the cabin, while weapon-carrying wings are short, stubby, and mid-mounted on the fuselage. The fuselage is slender and tapered to the rear, with fixed landing gear. The tandem cockpit is glassed-in and flat-plated, and tapered from the cockpit to the blunted nose. The tail boom tapers to the rear, with a high, swept-back fin with square tip. The flats are unequally tapered with a square tip, while the belly fin has the rear landing wheel attached. The tail rotor is mounted on the left side.
Two turboshaft engines with semicircular air intakes are mounted alongside the top of the fuselage. The Rolls-Royce Gem 1004, the powerplant in the Agusta A129 attack helicopter, is derived from the Gem family of engines originally designed as military engines to meet British Ministry of Defence requirements. The Gem 1004 achieved type approval in 1986 and entered service with the Italian Army in 1989. It incorporates features to enhance the mission capability of attack helicopters in all phases: simple engine controls with automatic engine management, fast start-up, high power for fast transit, low specific fuel consumption for endurance, low signatures, fast engine response for agility, robust design and emergency rating for battlefield survivability, low fuel consumption for secure return and low maintenance.
Country of Origin Italy
Builder Agusta
Role Light-attack, antiarmor, scout
Similar Aircraft AH-64 Apache, Mi-28 Havoc, Ka-50 Hokum
Rotor diameter 39 ft (12 m)
Length 46 ft, 10 in (14.3 m)
Height
Weight
Engine 2 ROLLS ROYCE GEM @ 900 HP
Maximum speed 265 Km/h
Cruising speed
Endurance 2h 30'
Service Ceiling
Armament Gun pods; rockets; missiles; TOW-, Hellfire-, or HOT-capable
Crew Two
easyand
06-20-2004, 01:22 PM
Apache is a heavy helicopter like the Hind,Mangusta is a light scout/attack comparable with the AH1 COBRA
pipaz
06-20-2004, 03:30 PM
speaking of cobra it do look somewhat like it even more from the front of it
Parzival
06-20-2004, 08:00 PM
So this hellis is more like COmanche? And might better than Commanche.
Midav
06-21-2004, 12:41 AM
How is it different than an Apache?
It seems the Mangusta and the Apache are both similar designs attempting to fill the same roles - CAS and interdiction.
The Apache's record in interdiction was proven in Iraq - it's very vunerable !!!
Sure it is. Take any helicopter, fly it over a city and have the whole neighborhood fire everything up, including the kitchen sink and you're going to have a damaged helicopter.
I'm suprised that not more were brought down.
tony6
06-21-2004, 01:57 AM
I know that Polish Army is looking at that machine right now.
It is cheaper than Eurocpoter Tiger. Besides Polish aircraft/helicopter industry has been cooperating with Agusta for couple of years already (PZL Swidnik factory: A139 project design and producing the A109 bodies)
Hehehehe... if you wonder how to class the helo look at its name...
Mongoose...
(a Mongoose kills and eats Cobras...)
What do you think they were thinking of when they named it... it wasn't an accident.
it has nothing to do with heavier helos like Apaches and Hinds. :-)
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